Making Ice Cream With Liquid Nitrogen 390
JasonMaggini writes "Popular Science has an article on how to whip up a batch of ice cream in 30 seconds or so by using liquid nitrogen. Just the thing for those hot summer days. The article is by Theodore Gray, creator of the ultra-spiffy Periodic Table Table."
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Introducing... the Chumsicle??? (Score:3, Interesting)
Now wait a second... (Score:3, Funny)
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I would think shrinkage would be the least of your worries.
Heretics! (Score:5, Funny)
None of this ICE CREAM MAKING... makes it look like its for wussies.
Re:Heretics! (Score:2)
Said by someone who is actually trying to design and sell one of those superconducting CPUs!
Paul B.
Re:Heretics! (Score:5, Funny)
only newbies still use liquid nitrogen
Dippin Dots (Score:5, Informative)
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daily recommended intake (Score:5, Funny)
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Gargling (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm nots ure, but a professor I knew at Northwestern sometimes gargled with liquid nitrogen to impress people during "chemistry day" type demos. Supposedly if you keep exhaling and moving the stuff around in your mouth, the air is enough of an insulator to keep from freezing your tongue off.
I had lots of fun working as a programmer in an organic chem lab there. When we needed a break from coding, we'd go invent weird chemistry demos or throw defective glassware against the wall. I don't think I'll ever try the liquid nitrogen gargling, though.
-- Laura
Re:Gargling (Score:5, Interesting)
Having said that, I worked in a place where liquid nitrogen (LN2) was used to cool the drinks during parties (it was dumped into a large volume of water which contained the bottles; the drinks would freeze if you put the bottles directly into the nitrogen).
Actually it was kinda cool: I was working in an office almost directly below three huge LN2 tanks, containing about 160,000 liters of the stuff. You remember that scene from James Bond where the programmer screams "I'm *invincible*" before being hit by a wave of LN2 and shattering? I always feared that would happen to me if I ever made a deadline ;-)
Anyway, that was my excuse for being chronically late ;-)
Re:Gargling (Score:4, Insightful)
Not risk-free of course, and you don't want to get that stuff down in the stomach... :-)
I do things like firewalking (had a world record once, 165 feet, and btw, I think the current listed record is invalid), sticking the hand in molten lead, bed-of-nails, etc.
Icecream is great BTW, it's something the physics department always hands out when it tries to attract potential students...
Leidenfrost (Score:5, Interesting)
What happens there is the Leidenfrost effect in action- the temperature inside your mouth is well above the boiling point of liquid nitrogen (77K, -196 degC, -321 degF, 138.6 degR), so that when the liquid contacts your mouth, a very small amount of it quickly boils off, and creates a layer of vapor between the remaining liquid and the flesh of your mouth. This vapor layer acts as an insulation blanket, allowing you to consume small quantities of liquid nitrogen without flash-freezing your palate.
The Leidenfrost effect is also sometimes demonstrated by wetting your hand with water, and then briefly plunging your hand into a container of molten lead. The same principle applies, as the lead is above the Leidenfrost point of water, so the water will form a vapor layer around your hand that insulates it from the molten lead. As much as I would like to believe that since the same principle applies, this is just as safe as brief exposure to LN2, I'm rather reluctant to try this.
Also, molten lead is a lot harder to come by, for me anyway, than liquid nitrogen- I work at UIUC's helium liquefier, so there's up to 5000 gallons of LN2 right outside the window (used both for providing to research groups and for the helium liquefier itself), and LN2 hoses on the wall. I'm generally pretty cautious with the stuff though- it does sting when it contacts bare skin, and as labels on the dewars often remind me, pure nitrogen DOES NOT SUPPORT LIFE, so you want to make sure that if you use large quantities (and the 220L dewars some groups have qualify) in a ventilated area. I've personally not found working with liquid nitrogen to be very dangerous- it's certainly less dangerous than some of the stuff used in an organic chemistry lab.
I remember the lab manual intro for a chemiluminescence/phosphoresence experiment that used things like polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons and the solvent DMSO (which isn't terribly toxic by itself, but can be absorbed through the skin, and has a nasty tendency to take other compounds with it), that had a warning that went something like: "Most of the reagents and solvents used in this lab are toxic, flammable, carcinogenic, mutagenic, teratogenic, or some combination thereof." LN2 and LHe are just really, really cold.
Anyway, I've had liquid nitrogen ice cream a number of times before- it tends to be a perennial favorite of many of the science-oriented clubs on campus, as well as a popular demonstration at the annual Engineering Open House- some ChemE's mixed some up this year- using LN2 I poured for them the day before, which was sweet. The ice cream is usually pretty good, IMO. The consistency can be rather variable, and it isn't as good as cranked homemade stuff, but hey- I'm not going to pass up free ice cream.
Re:Leidenfrost (Score:5, Interesting)
Er, no... This does not allow you to consume it... You can hold a bit in your mouth, but if you swallow it you will most likely die unless you can get right to a hospital very quickly, as it closes the entrance to your stomach and then proceeds to turn into nitrogen, which funnily enough takes up quite a bit more space than liquid nitrogen.
Re:Leidenfrost (Score:5, Interesting)
See http://www.darwinawards.com/personal/personal2000- 25.html [darwinawards.com] for what claims to be the world's only documented case of cryogenic ingestion.
Re:Leidenfrost (Score:3, Informative)
I'm surprised by two things by this: One is that he even managed to swallow, I haven't really tried, but my experience is that it boils extremely fast, and I would think it would be very hard to do that.
The other surprising thing is that he wasn't more seriously injured, or indeed that he lived to tell about it...
BTW
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Re:Leidenfrost (Score:5, Informative)
The specific trick to which you allude involves dipping your hand in water and then quickly in benzene. The two liquids are pretty much insoluble in one another, so a (somewhat spotty) layer of water remains between your hand and the benzene layer. If you ignite the benzene, most of it doesn't burn in contact with the skin, and the water with its high specific heat soaks up most of the heat of combustion, so it doesn't hurt--in principle.
Feynman discovered that as an adult, the hairs on his hands would wick the benzene down into direct contact with his skin...and hurt like hell.
The high specific and latent heats of water permit a number of amusing tricks. For example, you can boil water over an open flame in a paper cup. The boiling water absorbs heat from the paper cup, keeping it at a warm (but nowhere near combusting) 100 C.
You can also mix roughly equal parts water and isopropyl alcohol to obtain a solution that will burn, but doesn't damage most inanimate materials. Again, the big latent heat of vaporization of water soaks up almost all of the heat generated by the combustion of the alcohol. You can soak a large-denomination bill in this stuff and 'burn' it. Hint: test the solution on something disposable, first. ;)
Re:Showering (Score:3, Funny)
Didn't work for me though... Or if it did, I must have been pretty dumb and weak before !
the opposite of other fun things (Score:2, Funny)
playing with liquid nitrogen kind of evens things out.
Re:the opposite of other fun things (Score:3, Funny)
I used to work at a plant that recycled car batteries. We had a machine that that would crush the batteries and dump everything - plastic, sulfuric acid, lead - into a large vat for separation. The plastic would mostly float to the top and be scraped away, the sulfuric acid was drained off into barrels for filtering and recycling and the lead was then rinsed off and placed into a rotating kiln to dry it before being dumped into a huge furnace
Baked Alaska (Score:5, Funny)
Peter
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There is another idea... (Score:3, Funny)
So now, I guess they can also enjoy ice cream by putting all the ingredients in their mouths and then pouring the liquid...... uhmm.... never mind...
Re:There is another idea... (Score:5, Informative)
People made tea from tea essense.
What people did do is to put a lump of sugar into their mouth as they were drinking the tea -- instead of putting it into the tea.
This was more of a matter of personal preference than desire to save sugar (although there was a little bit of both -- sugar was often given out via ration cards)
Re:There is another idea... (Score:3, Interesting)
Due to the Leidenfrost effect this might actually work, but it also might cause loss of teeth (seen it) tongue (seen pictures) or stomic (don't want to know).
Re:There is another idea... (Score:3, Funny)
I was young... I was foolish... I was in the lab...
J.
Theodore Gray - Renaissance man (Score:2)
Creator of a great piece of software, Artist in a practical and informative media (The Periodic Table table) and brilliant writer. Study how he writes, very very closely. Would that everyone could write that well.
Re:Theodore Gray - Renaissance man (Score:2, Funny)
Not close enough it seems
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Re:Theodore Gray - Renaissance man (Score:3, Funny)
Phrased another way: "It would be just so cool if everyone could write like that Theodore dude."
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Dippin' Dots (Score:5, Informative)
The process was determined around 1988 by Curt Jones (a biologist interested in cryogenics...the science of freezing...not cryonics, the science of "Disney on Ice"). He started his company and now you can get Dippin' Dots everywhere from malls to theme parks.
You might even be able to catch a rerun of the FoodTV show, Unwrapped, where they discuss the manufacturing process. It's show #CWSP11 and it'll air again at these times [foodtv.com].
PS - Yes, I know Walt Disney isn't actually frozen....but Teddy Ballgame is.
Wot? (Score:4, Funny)
This is getting me hungry.
LOX? (Score:2)
Re:LOX? (Score:5, Funny)
DISCLAIMER: My buddy may have been shitting me...
He said they used to freeze frogs in liquid N2 and throw them against the wall to shatter. Then they'd put it in the wastebasket, and get a kick out of the reaction the stink got from the next sucker to enter the room.
One day, he said, a guy didn't have any N2, so he used LOX instead. It reacted with the volatiles in the frog and blew out the wall when they threw it.
Re:LOX? (Score:2)
Troll? Come on! Even if it's not true (as stated by red floyd in his disclaimer) it's damn funny! Where have the mods' sense of humor gone?
Hell, assuming it's not true, it could evolve into a very nice urban legend.
Re:LOX? (Score:4, Funny)
> Frog bomb!
Frogdor the Burninator!
Liquid nitrogen and soda (Score:2, Interesting)
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For those who want more... (Score:5, Informative)
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Sweet! (Score:2)
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Paul B.
My recipe (Score:5, Interesting)
To do this right you need to use more than 30 sec if you do it by hand like we did.
Use 2 eggs, and 0.6L of cream and mix in a bowl.
Chop one 100g dark chocolate bar and mix with the rest.
Add 0.1 L Irish Cream.
Whip it all together while someone pours a small stream of liquid nitrogen into the bowl.
Don't do it to fast (30 sec will give you large frozen lumps...).
When the ice starts to get thick enough, stop pouring nitrogen and put the lid back on the nitrogen container. You can play some more with it *after* you have eaten your ice-cream.
This would be a great idea for a bussines, set up a stall near a beach and sell on-the-fly real ice-cream to tourists. $5 a cup, the show is for free!
- Ost
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No, it's actually safe if done correctly. If you put just a drop on your tongue, the N2 on the bottom will evaporate, forming a cushion of air for the droplet to float on. Also it looks cool when you exhale.
Never done it myself though.
Re:My recipe (Score:5, Interesting)
I asked nicely and he let me try as well...
Pretty cool (no pun intended). With a short immersion of only an inch or two, your fingers are so hot compared to the liquid nitrogen that it boils from your skin temperature and forms a vapour barrier that keeps the liquid from touching you. In comparison, think of a few drops of regular tap water hitting a frying pan that's 200c - it vaporizes so fast that it just hops around the surface.
Naturally, if you leave your fingers in too long, the extreme cold will cool your skin down, allowing the liquid to touch you, which is bad. But for only a second or two, no problem.
There was also the story about another university prof who would put some in his mouth and blow it out. I also recall another story (unrelated?) about someone doing this and when blowing it out, blew it out over their teeth, causing a thermal contraction that cracked a few. Nasty.
Still, I want to get some - Just have to convince the suppliers that I'm not going crazy with it, I just wanna play and make some ice cream too
N.
Re:My recipe (Score:3, Interesting)
--matt
seen this on tv. (Score:2)
looked rather spiffy... or iffy, or piffy. the guy explained that it was actually better and much more easier to get it 'perfect' this way as the cooling was much more rapid.
Re:seen this on tv. (Score:5, Interesting)
Ordinarily, you achieve that by stirring the ice cream constantly. With liquid NO2, you achieve the same effect by freezing everything before the crystals have a chance to grow.
So yeah, you do get better ice cream this way.
There's also a lot less air whipped into it. For my taste, there's too little; a spoonful has too much "cold" in it to really taste it. Since it has more ice cream and less air, you get more mass in a spoonful, and thus more cold. But that's all a matter of taste; that's exactly what Ben and Jerry make all their money at. A little goes a long way.
fun with sodium (Score:3, Interesting)
Good old days at Los Alamos (Score:5, Interesting)
Tips (haven't read the article yet, so some of these might be redundant) -
- make sure you have good ventilation.
Nitrogen can fill the room and will push out the good air.
- don't use a regular blender.
Unless you have a heavy duty egg beater the nitrogen will be freezing the ice cream mix so fast that you'll bust the motor. Use a heavy duty one and then switch over to a large metal spoon.
- good ingredents count.
Use good cream. Add powdered milk for the extra protein. (I like adding a little bit of high quality protein that I use while working out) We used fresh dates, strawberries or whatever. If you use vanilla don't use that crappy stuff. Good vanilla is well worth the price - sort of like good basalmic vinegar. Once you've had the real deal the stuff supermarkets sell tastes like crap.
- Invite a bunch of friends.
It's a great party. Do the typical physics/chemistry tricks with the remaining liquid nitrogen. The shattering tomatoe or fake hand in the nitrogen tricks are always classics.
Re:Good old days at Los Alamos (Score:2)
Now if there were only an easy way to get nitrogen now that I don't work in a lab.
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Another cooking idea from popular mechanics (Score:5, Funny)
Ouch! (Score:2)
BTDT... Industrial Process Using LN2 & sonicat (Score:5, Informative)
Prior art on the Web with video and pictures (Score:4, Informative)
tried it years back -- unimpressed (Score:3, Interesting)
That's good... (Score:2)
Jason
ProfQuotes [profquotes.com]
Saw this YEARS ago at the Iowa State Fair (Score:3, Informative)
Extermination (Score:2, Funny)
Some time ago we had a family of mice decide to take up residence behind our bookcases. My dad decided to take the easy way out (vs. moving the bookcase) and bring some nitrogen to flush them out.
After pouring 1/2 a thermos behind the bookcase, there was lots of smoke and commotion from behind the bookcase, but the next day the mice returned!
I guess they didn't mind it too much -- it must have dissolved too quickly to do them an
Recipie from the lab (Score:5, Interesting)
Once my girlfriend was visiting me at work and I was stuck late while I was finishing some experiments. The kitchenette was stocked with only the usual bad coffee gear--ultra-pasteurized cream cups and sugar packets and bad coffee--and she was restless and hungry. I asked if she wanted some ice cream and she thought I was teasing.
So I took one of the vacuum insulated coffee carafes and filled it dramatically with LN2 from roll-around dewar in the lab (any time you crack the liquid feed on one of those things its pretty dramatic with the hissing and the steam and the gurgling and the spattering, dancing beads of LN2). As an aside, vacuum insulated coffee carafes filled with LN2 will hold it for more than a day.
I carried it boiling and fogging back to the kitchenette as she followed at a more than safe distance. I found a plastic bowl in the sink and filled it with the contents of about 100 of those little ultra-pasteurized coffee creamers and about 100 packets of sugar, brewed up a fresh pot of coffee and skimmed the first few seconds worth off - when it actually has some flavor and added it to the bowl. She looked mighty dubious, but the glass liner had cooled enough that the carafe didn't seem dangerous any more so she moved in to watch.
Then while I stirred the mixture with a plastic spoon (and, don't forget - while wearing the bright blue cryogenic safety gloves and full face shields) she poured in the LN2 which filled the bowl with dense fog that poured out, over the counter, and down around our ankles, spreading out across the floor, looking for all the world like a bad sci-fi movie.
In about 30 seconds we had a bowl of half decent coffee ice cream to share.
And, for just a little while, she thought being a geek was really cool...
Pedantic safety warning (Score:2)
That's a delightful story, and thank you for posting it.
It makes me hate to be a killjoy and point out that unless you've got some kind of venting system, storing liquid nitrogen in a thermos-like container for any length of time is hazardous. Eventually it picks up some heat and starts to boil, and that vapor pressure will go somewhere.
Oh, you have earned the title of True Nerdhood. I'm adding you to my friends list.
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Let's party! (Score:3, Funny)
Where does one get liquid nitrogen? (Score:5, Funny)
This whole thing sounds very interesting, but I don't think I can go into your average supermarket store and ask for some liquid nitrogen:
"Hello, I'd like a loaf of bread, Cheerios, and a gallon of your best liquid nitrogen. And, uh, a few grams of plutonium. I need it for my flux capacitor."
Re:Where does one get liquid nitrogen? (Score:4, Informative)
The more correct short answer is that you easily can.
LN2 is not a controlled substance. In most any area, it's simply a matter of opening up the phone book and finding a gas supplier. Many welding gas and medical gas companies provide it, and most sell to the public, and those that don't usually don't because they are set up to deal with businesses through purchase orders.
I only know the suppliers for the places I've lived---Praxair in St Paul, MN, and Merriam Graves in western NH, but both will happily sell you bulk dry ice, LN2, various gases in bottles, etc. I've done it at both places. Just be prepared to leave a *large* deposit on the LN2 dewar. If they ask too many questions tell 'em you're an artist (artists, especially those that weld, buy the freakiest damn things at times). And the LN2 ain't cheap, either. Depending on the supplier be prepared for between $80 and $200/dewar. (Although I guess if you compare it it's probably cheaper per volume than beer...)
Then again, due to the massive number of LN2 dewars I use at work, I'm on a first name basis with Merriam Graves' delivery guy...
But to go back to the comments of the guy I'm responding to...don't mess around with this stuff without thinking about it. It's real easy to burn yourself (wear eye shields), it easily splatters since it boils upon contacting most anything, etc.
N2 vs N2O ? (Score:5, Interesting)
Unfortunately N2 don't have the same effect as N2O when inhaled |-)
Re:N2 vs N2O ? (Score:5, Interesting)
This is news? (Score:3, Informative)
1. Get cream
2. Add liquid nitrogen, which freezes the cream then evaporates
3. You've got ice cream.
Re:This is news? (Score:2, Funny)
1. Get cream
2. Add liquid nitrogen, which freezes the cream then evaporates
3. You've got ice cream.
4. ???
5. PROFIT!
Heh! I wonder if they... (Score:3, Funny)
How I do my ice creams (Score:2)
There's a much easier way to make ice cream in five minutes. My dad invented the method.
Buy some frozen fruits. Here, we find big bags of frozen blueberries and raspberries at the supermarket. Any kind of small fruit will work. For thing like pineapples, see if you can buy small frozen bits. You will also need liquid cream - fresh cream won't do, you'd end up with butter, brown cane sugar and honey.
Put the frozen fruits in a food processer, mix until you get some kind of thick sauce, add just enough cream
Cryogenic Barbeque (Score:4, Funny)
Magic Screwdrivers (Score:5, Funny)
2) Suspend an ice cube tray full of vodka in it.
3) Add resulting alcohol cubes to a glass of OJ
4) Profit!! (or something...)
The alcohol won't freeze at temperatures designed to make normal ice, but the liquid nitrogen is cold enough to make the liquor freeze. No more worrying about the ice dilluting your drink, as it melts the drink becomes stronger.
Not Impressed... (Score:3, Funny)
Everything you need for summer cookouts (Score:3, Funny)
Obligatory Homer Simpson Quote (Score:4, Funny)
goddamnit (Score:3, Funny)
See another vid of this (Score:3, Informative)
Safety first... (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.isber.org/pdfs/karpinski.pdf
LOX works fine too (Score:3, Funny)
Contrary to popular belief, although you should treat it with respect, LOX does not instantly cause everything to become explosive. Someone at one of our LOX ice cream events once held a blowtorch on some ice cream; it just singed the outside a bit.
There's a Company Doing This (Score:3, Informative)
They exhibited at the IAAPA Convention last November. The stuff was excellent - very smooth.
The machine used a large tank of liquid nitrogen, and basically worked by spurting ice cream mixture into a bucket, then spraying it with the nitro. Repeat the process 100 times or so, and you've got 5 gallons of the stuff.
Leidenfrost effect (Score:5, Interesting)
My orange sherbet recipe (Score:3, Informative)
2 cups low-pulp orange juice
1 cup sugar
Mix sugar and orange juice. In a large wooden or plastic bowl (metal sticks too much), slowly stir in liquid nitrogen until the desired consistency is reached.
I'd also recomment using a wooden spoon. I used a hand mixer once, and due to the low viscosity of liquid nitrogen, it spewed droplets everywhere.
One of these days I want to try making deep-fried liquid nitrogen ice cream. My goal is to get an 800 degree F temperature span in the making of the stuff.
Remember, be careful with the LN2. It's easy to over-freeze stuff. I once got my tongue stuck to a frozen banana, and it was rather painful.
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Re:more things with liquid nitrogen (Score:3, Interesting)
My dorm made N2 ice cream all the time during rvsh.
One time the kid who was handling the N2 dumped some on the floor to impress the frosh. I got a few droplets in my socks, where it proceeded to burn my skin.
I've never removed a pair of sock so fast.
The dots it left were kind of neat, though, and actually included the texture of the fabric.
Another cool thing we did was put marshmellows in N2. Since there is so much sugar in the marshmellows, they don't get that cold, and you can pop them right in y
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