Smart Bricks to Monitor Buildings of the Future 142
Roland Piquepaille writes "Scientists from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign have developed a "smart brick" which can monitor a building's health and report its conditions wirelessly. "This innovation could change the face of the construction industry," said Chang Liu, a professor of electrical and computer engineering at Illinois. "We are living with more and more smart electronics all around us, but we still live and work in fairly dumb buildings. By making our buildings smarter, we can improve both our comfort and safety." Built into a wall, these bricks could monitor a building's temperature, vibration and movement. Such information could be vital to firefighters battling a blazing skyscraper, or to rescue workers ascertaining the soundness of an earthquake-damaged structure. These researchers also think these devices could help monitoring nurseries, daycares and senior homes. You'll find more details in this summary."
Brick (Score:5, Funny)
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Interesting, but... (Score:3, Interesting)
In short, useless waste of money marketing FUD. Per norm for slashdot stories.
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:5, Funny)
Get on the phone to their brokers and triple their insurance policy
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:5, Funny)
Get on the phone to their brokers and triple their insurance policy"
Hopefully before the brick gets on the phone to your insurance company and triples the price of insurance...
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:2, Funny)
Get a good assurance really quick?
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:5, Informative)
I think the idea would be to detect movement of the brick relative to other parts of the building. This would allow the owner to detect and have the opportunity to correct any structural problems well before the building is in any danger of collapse.
The excuse that it helps firefighters is totally ridiculous, firefighters aren't going to have time to jack in to a network plug when they're trying to save lives.
Remember, not everybody who works for a fire department rushes into burning buildings to save people. Some people at the scene are going to set up a command center. Presumably, the command center would be equipped to monitor such 'smart' building materials and relay important information to firefighters in the building.
The other touted use it to sense vibrations. I don't know about you, but I know when there's an earthquake and when there's not, I don't need a brick to tell me.
After a major earthquake occurs, buildings need to be inspected to determine how much structrual damage has occured. Knowing the magnitude and direction of the vibrations sensed at various parts of the building could help the damage assessment process.
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:3, Insightful)
The "smart brick" is a OK i
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:5, Informative)
They do [pswn.gov] actually, or at least they try. They even have time to watch streaming video and infrared sensors. Had you thought your post through a bit, you could have imagined yourself that it obviously pays to know a hazardous situation inside out before you send in more bodies.
I don't know about your specific seismic abilities of course, but for us mortals 'feeling' an earthquake usually means it is too late. That is why so many peopple still die of them. I'm not saying these bricks will solve the problem of early earthquake detection, but they at least stand a better chance at it than you do.
(Offtopic)FUD has become a very easy label to stick on articles people don't like, but it really makes no sense at all in this context, does it? Just as a reminder: you don't have to read the slashdot stories you don't like, o.k.? Just don't piss on a technology because you are not interested in reading about it.
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:2)
I agree, especially if you look at it as a brick. If you were talking about something that monitored the health of post-tension members in a large building or bridge, that might be interesting. If you just think of it as a proof-of-concept, then it is kind of cool.
The idea that there might be valuable correlation of data between temperature and accelleration is harder to believe. I think someone needed to take a better look at what kind of data could be usefully combin
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Re:Interesting, but... (Score:2, Insightful)
I'm claiming prior art on this one.
Re:Interesting, but... (Score:2)
You let some people go into the building, and then you have some people think while all hell is falling around them. On September 11th, not everybody who tried to save lives was in the buildings. There were those who shut down the air traffic system. In a war, not everybody goes to the front lines. Even if you are badly lacking in men in battle, you still have to have those who think.
Damn. THer goes one of my favorite expression (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Damn. THer goes one of my favorite expression (Score:4, Funny)
If the bricks end up running "Microsoft Windows for Brick Computing" as their OS, you still might be able to.
Re:Damn. THer goes one of my favorite expression (Score:4, Funny)
I wonder (Score:2, Offtopic)
Re:I wonder (Score:1)
Re:I wonder (Score:1)
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wait a min... (Score:5, Funny)
Finally, a solution for all of those brick skyscrapers.
I heard that, but you wanted it that way. (Score:5, Interesting)
It's called a curtian wall. It's not structrually bearing, but cinder blocks might be the cheapest way to do it. When you put them around a fire escape, they can keep you from cooking as fast.
I'm not sure I want "vibration" sensors in my walls for the local police department, nosy neighbors or anyone else to listen to. My voice is a "vibration" and what I say in my house and place of work is for those around me, not big brother.
Cinder blocks (Score:2, Informative)
Re:wait a min... (Score:1)
Chilak.net
Hehe Smart Bricks (Score:2, Interesting)
Joking asside, construction material that provides feedback is likely better than construction material that does nothing but watch the paint flake.
Re:Hehe Smart Bricks (Score:2, Funny)
Yeah, thats a job for managers.
Power source? (Score:1)
Or do the inventors presume that the cost of wiring every brick into the electrical system will be worth the potential benefits?
-j
Re:Hehe Smart Bricks (Score:2, Informative)
Just a form factor readjustment of old tech. (Score:3, Interesting)
Currently you can very easily put temperature sensors (or even seismic detectors) in a building, but this project wants to put these items into a brick with a wireless connection. Is this really a story? Sure, such a brick might exist in every new building in the future, but you could have this in your home right now, in a small box containing the same gadgets. Putting it in a brick just doesn't seem that exiting, y'know?
This is like the 'building a PC without a case' stories we see from time to time, but without the humor value of seeing someone mount a motherboard in a cardboard box.
It's the apocolypse, people! (Score:3, Funny)
Re:It's the apocolypse, people! (Score:1)
Re:It's the apocolypse, people! (Score:1)
ObSimpsons: (was Re:It's the apocolypse, people!) (Score:2)
("When Buildings Collapse" on Non-Stop Fox)
The more technology takes over peoples lives.. (Score:1, Insightful)
Fuck the recession, there is no recession!
Re:The more technology takes over peoples lives.. (Score:1, Flamebait)
I almost spit out my ramen when I read that, but I can't afford to waste food.
Daycare? (Score:2)
Beep, Beep, Beep.
Baby #63 needs a diaper change.
Re:Daycare? (Score:2)
Re:Daycare? (Score:2)
Baby Nibblonian #204 needs a diaper change.
And don't tell me those dark matter poops aren't detectable when they hit the floor. Of course, now it's just in the cartoons...
mark of the brick (Score:2, Funny)
how long before they are in ALL homes by law?
it's biblical. remember that bit about no one being able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast?
it was a bad translation, they meant mark of the brick - the one that says "quality bricks designed to last"
john
are you a weapon of male destruction? you need one of these snazzy t-shirts [wildjelly.com]
maintenance (Score:5, Insightful)
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Re:maintenance (Score:1)
Ahh....the real reason for IPv6 (Score:5, Funny)
Destined for failure: (Score:5, Funny)
Wow, it's gonna suck upgrading all of those when new a kernel comes out.
Batteries (Score:1)
inflexible (Score:4, Insightful)
...and built into a wall, there's no way to fix the 'brick' when it breaks down and stops working. All of the above functions can be performed by sensors ON the wall,floor, ceiling, etc- or post-construction inside the wall, accessible via an access panel. Or you can make a brick that's not completely 'built in'- ie, you make a place for it, a box or something- and the sensor can still be serviced, you still get advantages of easy installation, etc.
So maybe you put a slew of them in-I suppose ease of installation counters the increased cost of deploying more of them. But still, that's great- now you've raised the chances that one of them will fail(since there are more of them)...and they're possibly more unreliable, and accuracy or precision will be worse since, well, you made 'em cheaper.
Reinventing the Wheel (Score:2, Insightful)
Now when the walls talk to me, (Score:4, Funny)
Top 3 Things Said About Smart Bricks (Score:2)
2. Oh yeah, how 'bout wrapping that sensor around THIS finger? [Take your pick which anatomical region you prefer.]
1. Huh? You mean central Illinois has buildings, let alone any actually made of brick?
Favorite quote (Score:3, Funny)
I get it. Sort of like if they got off the couch and played the actual sport. Uh...
More Like the Powerglove (Score:2)
Re:Favorite quote (Score:1)
Gives whole new meaning to when someone accuses you of cheating by using a bot.
Yeah, 110,000 bricks all saying (Score:2)
The problem is the micro scale versus the macro scale. While you think having bricks with humidity sensors would help you find a leak in a wall, just find the first brick that reported wetness, they wouldn't work in the rain.
What's a brick going to tell you during a California earthquake? "Dude
Unless a brick can report its actual position and orientation in 3D space along with any delta since is was laid (better be none) you can't tell anymore
Re:Yeah, 110,000 bricks all saying (Score:2)
Have you ever seen a brick house being built? Not all bricks are on the outside, some never get wet unless there's a leak somewhere
What's a brick going to tell you during a California earthquake? "Dude ... I'm feeling shaky."
I guess by knowing which bricks are under the most stress or which ones break first in case of earthquake, you c
Reletive Delta (Score:3, Informative)
What about relative deltas. IE, you have 1000 bricks stacked up, and you monitor all of them. The wall starts bowing inward. If the bricks are capable of communicating with neighboring bricks and measuring how th
this is perfect (Score:2, Interesting)
drywall (Score:2)
Grandma was right (Score:3, Insightful)
Who knew - the old girl was right.
Re:Grandma was right (Score:1)
Paranoid thinking?.. Let's hope so.
Re:Grandma was right (Score:2)
So sayeth Embedded Geek.
IN SOVIET RUSSIA (Score:2, Funny)
Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA (Score:2)
Oblig: Beowulf Cluster... (Score:2, Funny)
- Dude, its called a *wall*
Ad Hoc Networking (Score:1, Interesting)
I applaud the effort however, I don't beieve this particular product is good but it is a start. Slapping a sensor onto the side of a bri
your area of expertise is showing (Score:5, Interesting)
Basically, any structure like a bridge or a building can be characterized pretty well by its frequency response. You stimulate it with an impulse and transform the output to the frequency domain. A burning building is being constantly stimulated, so detecting the vibrations with a brick in the wall is going to let you easily determine the frequency response.
As you can imagine (this is a generalization) if there's a large spike in certain frequencies, the structure is unstable. When you engineer structures, you try and keep the frequency response flat.
But i *like* being a couch potato! (Score:1)
Not happening... same problem as with the power glove and DDR-type home game systems. Dancing around is great for strutting your stuff at the mall/arcade, but at home 90% of folks would rather just sit on the couch and use a joystick... at least 90% of th
movie (Score:1, Funny)
Voices Make VIbrations (Score:3, Insightful)
Especially when there is more then one brick, then you could triangulate the speaker, and filter out noise. And report back any 'suspicious conversations, even in a private home.
Then add the ability to track the chips that will eventually be implanted in people, then you got instant 'undesirable' tracking in every building.
I feel so much safer now. Don't you?
Smart Bricks (Score:1)
Saves civil life (Score:1)
What are the odds? (Score:3, Insightful)
Just a thought...
Stepping Outside of the Smart Brick Article (Score:1)
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My Concern (Score:1)
Only one focal point of the wall (Score:1)
Earthquake? (Score:1)
I think this engineer needs to get out of the lab occasionally.
Such information could be vital to (Score:2)
Some things are better left dumb.
Not good (Score:1)
I see dumb people... they're everywhere... (Score:1)
Smart bricks aren't new! (Score:2)
I'd rather have... (Score:1)
The walls really do have ears? (Score:2)
Now, I'm not usually paranoid or a conspiracy theorist, but it's been my experience that if the gov't can use something to better monitor/control its citizens... it will. Having one's walls wired to send wireless signals has dangerous potential for invasion of privacy... maybe my future home will hav
And noses too (Score:2)
And then they will charge us, the dweller, for the cost.
Definitely not just another brick in the wall.
The Cask of Amontillado, the sequel (Score:2)
Why not? No matter which grimy hole in the wall our hero gets stuffed in, there will be a smart brick complete with ssh (or maybe a dumb brick equipped with AOL Instant Messenger) and so the chode gets rescued, every single time!
Or, use the tale as an advertising gimmick. Show the "Can you hear me now?" guy getting bricked in the vault, but with a Sprint smart brick.
Or maybe not.
Paranoia (Score:2)
Stop it with the tin foil hats and start appreciating this new innovation. I for one think this is a great invention. Now we'll know if a building is at risk for collapse. Firefighters will know whether to enter a burning building or not. The positives go on and on.
Re:Paranoia (Score:1)
FBI has invented... (Score:1)
Firefighting? (Score:2)
Oh, yeah, that's great. If the technology in this brick is so great, how come they can't just make the entire building out of fireproof materials and not have to worry about battling the damn thing in the first place???
I don't know. Fireproof Christmas trees have been around for a long time. They didn't have to put a computer in every brick to make buildings the same way.
For christsake (Score:2)
You know, there's a solution to buildings falling down. It's called structural engineering. Tempered by a dose of common sense. Like if you don't want your house to fall on your head don't build it on a fault line or next a sand
Not useless! (Score:1)
Re:Not useless! (Score:2)
Like I said, I'd spend my money on a good engineer and good masons before I bought smart bricks. How many deaths are caused annually by bricks falling off of skyscrapers? Nevermind that skyscr
New perspectives (Score:1)
Behind the curve? (Score:1)
Re:I'm waiting for Smart Brick 2.0 (Score:3, Funny)
Re:7:36pm Friday night, near a local bar... (Score:1)
You're paranoid (Score:2)