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Bid Your Way into the Keck Control Room 33

Posted by michael from the space-is-wide-and-space-is-deep dept.
mopuxak writes "There's an article featured over at space.com about an ongoing EBay auction to spend a night in Hawaii's Keck Observatory with Astronomer Geoff Marcy. The money is set to go to the non-profit Astronomical Society of the Pacific (ASP). Looks like they're billing this as Astronomy's version of Lance Bass and the Space Station. How much would YOU pay?"
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Bid Your Way into the Keck Control Room

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  • Spend a night with a science geek... (Score:4, Funny)

    by Lord Bitman ( 95493 ) on Thursday January 16, 2003 @11:49AM (#5095145)
    You don't have to pay me to spend the night :(
  • ...would depend on what research I had going. I'd pay a heck of a lot if I needed Keck's 'Big Eye' to collect some data that would be critical to a thesis, dissertation, or if the research I was doing were a big fat hairy deal in terms of my career advancement; or cutting edge, exciting (astronomically speaking), etc.. On the other hand if I were just wanting to 'stargaze' I'd not be willing to spend much of anything.
  • How much would YOU pay?
    Well, I'd offer to pay for dinner for my astronomer friend who works there. (Actually, she's at the SMA [harvard.edu].)

    But what would I do in the control room at Keck? Sit and stare at the monitors and nod my head knowingly a lot?

  • Well.... (Score:5, Informative)

    by MrIcee ( 550834 ) on Thursday January 16, 2003 @12:47PM (#5095693) Homepage
    I live on the Big Island and can at this very moment, in fact, see the Keck observatory as a little white pimple on the top of Mauna Kea, from my computer room.

    Keck is a very important observatory, and one of the many observatories up there. Since it placed adaptive optics into it's facility a couple years ago they have been producing stunning photographs and research.

    However, how much would I pay to sit in their control room? Not much. Anyone can go up to the top of Mauna Kea for free, and hang around. Free tours of Keck are offered daily. You wouldn't be able to do/see much since the telescope time is so highly booked (e.g., you would see what was going on currently).

    Another down side is that your at 13,800 ft. The air is very thin and altitude sickness is very very common. Not to mention that it is extremely cold up there.

    There are better ways to enjoy Hawaii :)

    • Re:Well.... (Score:4, Informative)

      by dpp ( 585742 ) on Thursday January 16, 2003 @01:22PM (#5095994)
      Another down side is that your at 13,800 ft. The air is very thin and altitude sickness is very very common. Not to mention that it is extremely cold up there.

      Very true, although Keck do remote observing from the much more comfortable environment of Waimea. From the auction:

      The observatory headquarters, Visiting Scientists' Quarters, and control rooms are located in Waimea, at about 2,500 feet.

    • Re:Well.... (Score:2, Interesting)

      by CanSpice ( 300894 )
      Free tours of Keck are offered daily.

      True, but last time I was up there the free tours available to the public don't really show you very much. The closest you get to seeing one of their telescopes is inside a cage on the dome floor. To really get a tour you need to either work there or know someone who does. That tour's much more interesting. =)

      Plus, public tours are only available during the day when nothing exciting is going on. Well, unless you consider engineering exciting. It's only after twilight when things start getting exciting. And then when they start sitting on a source things get boring again, and that's when you start hoping things will break so there's something for you to do at 3 in the morning so you don't fall asleep.

    • This would be a much more interesting trip if you actually got to take control of the scopes and do your own observing. That would rock.

      How much do you think that would be worth?

      • Re:Well.... (Score:3, Informative)

        by Idarubicin ( 579475 )
        How much do you think that would be worth?

        Each of the two Keck telescopes cost about $94 million U.S. to construct. If we amortize that over twenty years, that's five million per year, $14,000 per day, or nearly six hundred dollars per hour. You'll settle for one Keck, right?

        And that's just your sticker price. Actually operating the damn thing requires a lot of money. This site [indiana.edu] gives a figure of about a dollar per second--that's about four thousand dollars an hour. It's not cheap to haul astronomers, mirror bits, refrigeration units, and everything else up a mountain, you know.

        Oh, and if it's cloudy while you're up there, too bad. You can apply for more time now, but your request likely won't be granted for another year or so. Not that the group responsible for adminstering the Kecks would let you play with their toy anyway. There are real scientific projects that already suck up all the available observing time--and many more waiting in the wings that would kill for some. Do you think that CERN would let you mess around with their collider?

        Your best bet for getting to play with mid-scale scientific toys (linear accelerators, van de Graff generators, telescopes in the three meter class, and so forth) would be to befriend someone at a university owning such facilities. Once you know the right people, you can get in for free.

  • Too bad it's... (Score:1, Redundant)

    by Muad'Dave ( 255648 )

    not Marcy Geoff. I wouldn't be too interested "spending the night" with Geoff Marcy.

  • I wouldn't pay. . . . (Score:4, Informative)

    by astrobabe ( 533099 ) on Thursday January 16, 2003 @02:13PM (#5096449) Homepage
    1- I am an astronomer so I wouldn't pay at all, I'd just apply for time through CalTech which is where I work for SIRTF 2- While whomever pays for this will get a spiffy tour of the telescopes will probably wind up in the control room at Waimea which is not on the mountain. Why? Because generally astronomers are out of shape or get loopy at altitude. The way to minimize stupid mistakes is to only let the operators move the telescope and tweak the instruments and keep the astronomers down near sea level. That said I've done a few dumb things at telescopes myself when it was 3 am and I just wanted to go to bed at telescopes at only 7000 ft altitude. . .
  • ...someone that gets a lot of pr0n off've ebay, I guess. rlcsljo, the current high bidder at $13,050 has made quite a few interesting purchases recently!

    I guess it's just a bit odd. His buying record is going to be: pr0n, pr0n, pr0n, $13k on a night at Keck, pr0n, pr0n...
  • if the auctioneer had positive feedback!
  • ...I wouldn't pay anything.

    I'd rather spend time with Steven Hawking at the local high school's observatory than to hang out at Keck with any lesser scientist.
  • Perhaps they could get more interest from females if they billed it as:
    A night with Geoff Marcy at the fabulous Keck Observartory
    C'mon, who wouldn't want a man with such a large (cough) intellect... oh wait, this is Slashdot, that's not funny.
  • They're not getting their grubby hands on a single dime with no feedback...
  • Why would I pay to go to Hawaii when I can eavesdrop on every image from my living room? Or I could head over to the office and use the video link to converse and smile with him from California. I'm one of the engineering team who built the instrument (HIRES) that Marcy will be using.
  • Did anyone notice that the current leader, rlcsljo, is REALLY into dirty movies? Not that we all aren't, but it was just kinda funny for some stupid stupid reason.

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