Mmm ... Purple Disease-Resistant Potatoes 277
the_ph0x` writes: "An article on Reuters describes a new breed of potato as being resistant to disease, able to grow in low nutrient soil and ... purple. Not all that interesting unless you're from an area where blight is a problem. At least we'll know we can always live on potatos, which who doesn't anyway ... mmm purple tater-tots." Combine it with the hideous green ketchup Heinz is making, and eating can be like a Kadinsky ? painting!
Why Purple? (Score:1)
Re:Why Purple? (Score:1)
Yeah, fine and dandy, but just wait until EVERYBODY is planting this variety. Can you say Ireland, 1840?
Re:Why Purple? (Score:2, Interesting)
The homogenization of varieties led to blight spreading too easily, and rediscovery of "heirloom" foods (popularly tomatoes and roses-- the tomatoes are tastier and the roses better-smelling, although not as good for shipping long distances) has become something of an organic-hippie fad. That's good.
If everything becomes purple potatoes, i imagine it'll be back to homogenization again.
a.
Re:Why Purple? (Score:2, Funny)
> Why Purple?
The pests think it's eggplant, and won't touch it.
Why white? (Score:4, Informative)
Potatoes are native to S. America, where there are thousands of varieties. People native to that region grow and eat a much greater variety of potatoes than we do, with different shapes (running from round to finger shaped) and colors. This is partly due to the fact that their potatoes tend to hybridize with wild "weedy" strains, and partly because they encourage hybridization. Since potatoes are a big part of their diet,different shapes, colors and tastes add variety. This strategy probably also protects them from poor harvests and pests by spreading their bets across many strains that do better in different circumstances.
There are probably a hundred or so cultivars we grow in the 1st world which tend to be large, roundish, and have white or yellow flesh. Most importantly they have been selected to have low concentrations of poisionous alkaloids in the tuber. Potatoes are closely related to jimson weed and deadly nightshade and are normally poisonous. Where they eat many more primitive and diverse varieties of pototatoes, the potatoes must be treated specially to remove the alkaloids. They are spread on a blanket or a tarp, trod upon to break their skins and left outside several days to freeze and thaw. Apparently this reduces the concentrations of alkaloids to where they can be consumed safely, although you might still get sick if you aren't used to eating native potatoes.
I don't know if the flesh or the skin of this particular potato is purple -- probably just the skin, although I suppose it is possible that the flesh might be colored. Yellow flesh is not uncommon; green is a sign that a potato wasn't properly handled and may be poisonous. The interesting thing is that it apprently this strain came from European gardens. They could probably develop a number of useful new strains by hybridizing with wild potatoes.
Re:Why white? (Score:2)
I believe that solanine is a alkaloid, but that members of the deadly nightshade family (including tomatoes) also produce both solanine and toxic saponins. I've read about problems with farm machinery contanimanted with saponins from the eastern deadly nightshade.
Jimson weed produces a number of toxic alkaloids other than solanine, such as atropine, the sum of which may be responsible for its hallucinogenic properties. The solanine in potoates and tomatoes is only going to give you nausea, dehydration and disorientation. Jimson weed also produces toxic saponins and nitrates. Let's just say that it wouldn't be my first choice for recreational highs, although I know it has been used by shamans and people interested in that sort of thing. I wouldn't mess with it unless I had expert guidance and ready access to medical help.
Where did you get them? (Score:2)
Growing potatoes is fun and easy; I've done it with some rotting store potatoes. The foliage of the plant is beautiful. I'd be interested in growing some unusual kinds.
Re:Why Purple? (Score:3, Interesting)
Yams are also a variety of potato. We North Americans tend to get confused by the color. If you want to try the various styles and colors of potatoes available, skip the Safeway next time you go out to shop, and try some of the (South American) ethnic stores.
In fact, I'd say just try ethnic stores in general! There is a small Vietnamese grocery near my place. They have all sorts of interesting things that I have yet to try. I've been experimenting, lately with different varieties of rice. I've come to texture the texture of brown rice over plain white, and have started experimenting with sticky rice (wow, incredible!). Never would have tried it if I hadn't gotten curious walking through the store, and asked how to cook these things.
People are so willing to share their culture and food with us if we only ask. It's incredible what you can learn by asking someone in a store what to do with a 'strange' plant that they seem to know about.
Re:Why Purple? (Score:2)
Diabetics (Type I) (Score:2, Informative)
Diabetics have to watch their sugar/carb intake. My wife is diabetic.
Glad I could clear that up
Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:5, Funny)
Till you grow a third nipple.
- A.P.
Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:1)
The choices almost make themselves!
Read the article (Score:2)
Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:2)
The choices almost make themselves!
Not exactly. I saw a study on a news journal show recently in which the effects of eating genetically altered food were carefully examined. One would expect there to be no difference, but there was actually quite a big difference. Namely, animals that ate the genetically altered food had a much higher incidence of inflamed stomach (or something close to that) than those that didn't. Mind you, this was in a highly controlled lab environment, so the only possible explanation was the variable in the experiment, namely whether they were eating altered food or not.
Genetically altered food CAN have adverse side effects. Not that it always does, but we should be very wary of tinkering with nature at such a low level.
Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:2)
You can also grow your own. Most cities sit on top of the most fertile land in their regions (having grown up around the rich farmers on their good land, and then eaten that land). Even people who live in apartments can often grow stuff on their balconies, or inside their windows.
It's nice eating something that you know where it's come from.
In many cases, our chemical laden farming methods are self-fulfilling cycles. The chemicals we spray on our farms don't just kill the pests. They also kill the predators against the pests. They're actually worse on the predators, because the pests are far more numerous and more likely to have a mutation among them that allows them some resistance to the pesticide. Thus the pest breeds itself into immunity, but the predator gets squeezed out of the space, so if you stop using chemicals for a short period of time, the pest population explodes until the predator can re-establish itself. Unless the farmer in question really knows what (s)he's doing, they're likely to restart the chemical program just as the predator is regaining a foothold in the area (and the chemical company PR rep will take on an "I told you so" attitude).
Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:1)
Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:2, Funny)
Guinea Pig (Score:2)
dont tell me what your feeding me today,
dont fill my head with trouble while im scarfin down a cheese soufle
i wanna be a new, original creation
a cross between a moose a monkey and a fig
i'm ready Monsanto let me be your guina pig
cuz the seed we sew aint good enough
the earth we plow it aint good enough
the food we grow well its never been up to scratch,
the geezer with the beard and all the angels
made a few mistakes I dont know why
we dont need him anymore if geneticly modify
so dont ya tell me what you're puttin in my lunch box
i got a crazy pioneering additude
dont bother me with labels gotta get a belly full of franken-food
gotta geta belly fulla franken-food
--Moxy Fruvous [fruvous.com]
Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:2)
Re:Good to see Luddites are still around (Score:2, Funny)
- A.P.
Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:2)
Peru has over a hundred varieties of potato - if the British had brought back a decent assortment of potatos, instead of just the quick-buck high-yield-but-blight-sensitive variety, there would never have been an Irish potato famine.
Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:2)
Nifty... where are you (or at least your garden) located, and where did you get the variety? Any links? I love potatos, and while I appreciate the variety of onions, corn, coffee, mushrooms and some other consumables, potatos in my mind have been "baking", "red" and "sweet" (that's yams to you damn yankees, and I make a hell of a sweet potato pie).
--
Evan
Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:2)
Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:2)
Anyway try here [atfantasy.com], here [braveheart.co.uk] (offers differing views in the form of letters to a newspaper), here [nitpickers.com](movie nitpicking site, not just about history), here [homeschoolchristian.com] (have to scroll down a bit) and here [goodauthority.org]. I could find other, better sites, but I am at work, so shoudl really get back to coding.
OT: Re:Mmmm.. genetically modified food... (Score:2)
Warning: The themes of this work are honor, humility, and the importance of always honoring God by one's actions, so many
BTW: If you do read it, get the version illustrated with the beautiful N.C. Wyeth paintings - They're a 20th century addition, of course, but so perfect a fit that it's hard to imagine the book without them.
Different Purple Potato (Score:2)
The thing to remember about GM foods is, many of them are really no more extreme in result than a few decades of cross breeding. Traits from on subspecies are imported into another - disease resistance, productivity, flavor, sweetness - without the intermediate stage of weeding out failures. Others are the result of importing animal genes, and these might have unexpected consequences, and should be more rigorously tested. I'd worry most about the ones with chemical pesticide production engineered in, not the disease resistant ones.
Of course, plants engineered to sterilize their non-GM competitors (Hey, Joe-Bob, what happened to your farm? - Oh, hi Bob-Joe, that GM wheat wiped my seed out for this year and I went under...) are a real worry... reducing the number of food crops to a few genomes is really hazardous to our viability.
Made by Dentrassis (Score:1)
Take these to dinners! (Score:4, Informative)
As much as the purple potato is resistant to disease, people are more resistant to change.
Re:Take these to dinners! (Score:2, Informative)
Purple Potatoes (Score:1)
The purple potato is one of the ancestral Peruvian ur-potatoes. It's quite high in nutrients and tastes delicious.
Re:Purple Potatoes (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Purple Potatoes (Score:2)
McDonald's isn't food, period.
Re:Purple Potatoes (Score:2)
Matching ketchup (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Matching ketchup (Score:2)
It's a little sweeter than the standard stuff (as is the red ketchup in the similarly-shaped brightly-colored squeeze bottle; the original plastic bottle and the glass bottles are all the old recipie), and it's pumped full of vitamin C, so that's probably what you're tasting.
purple ketchup. (Score:2)
Green ketchup is one thing (at least there are fucking green tomatoes), but purple? No.
This is a sad sad day. Designer vegetables/fruits. Scary
Re:purple ketchup. (Score:2)
Re:purple ketchup. (Score:2)
If you really want something different, try something other than tomato ketchup. Catsup is a generic term for a smooth, chutney like sauce made from fruit.
Try this link: http://www.recipesource.com/cgi-bin/search?search
Re:purple ketchup. (Score:2)
To Paraphrase Homer (Score:5, Funny)
Absolut Barney!
{god damn lameness filter}
Re:To Paraphrase Homer (Score:2)
Extra food warnings (Score:2, Funny)
Red Queen Race (Score:2)
Still, it is good news. I support genetic engineering of crops, but if this works well then all the better.
Mmmmm.... (Score:2, Funny)
purple potatoes have been around for a while (Score:1)
They're pretty old - I've been buying them regularly in the Pacific Northwest for almost 10 years. Very, very tasty. They're usually best baked, then they also retain their purple color through the cooking. When you fry or boil them they lose most of their color and "exotic" appeal.
The potatoes the article is about are probably a different purple strain, though.
Mr. Potato Head (Score:1)
That's... (Score:1)
Kandinsky [?] [everything2.com]... heh.
As in Wassily Kandinsky, the painter... not Kadinsky... some coffeeshop in Amsterdam.
--
nutate on e2...
Re:That's... (Score:2)
More information... (Score:3, Informative)
Off-colour vegetables [vt.edu].
Who says watermelon must be red? [dailynews.com]
Potatoes of note [ruralvermont.com]. (Potatos or potatoes, either is acceptable. Just not potatoe).
Re:More information... (Score:2)
Cynic Alert (Score:2)
I hope that's not because it just came out of the genetic engineering lab. What would one cross with to get purple? Sea Anemones perhaps?
Really, though I like potatos and GM stuff if it's useful and safe. Besides more than likely it really is nature doing freaky stuff, cause she's good at that.
Blue Potato Chips (Score:2)
They're tasty. (Score:2)
Potato servers (Score:2)
Just a thought.
NNNnnnooooOOOOO! Soilent Purple ... (Score:2)
purple potatos not new (Score:2, Insightful)
Potato Eaters (Score:2, Informative)
we can be Big Purple Potato Eaters.
Or according to this recipe:
Purple People Eater
3/4 oz rum
1/2 oz vodka
1/2 oz gin
1/2 oz tequila
1/2 oz Triple Sec
1/2 oz blue curacao
1 oz sour mix
7-Up
splash grenadine
Combine all liquors and sour mix in a cocktail shaker with cracked ice and shake well. Pour into a collins glass, fill with 7-Up and top with grenadine.
We can become Purple People Eater Drinkers!!!
Please don't say you can beowulf these...
Re:Potato Eaters (Score:2)
Here's an Easter special. It isn't purple, it's pink, it's the Jellybean Cocktail:
Put some ice in a tall glass.
Add about two fingers of Ouzo.
Pour in some grapefruit juice.
Add a little Grenadine to give it some color.
Stir and sip.
(You could add an olive, but I would skip it.)
In most of the world, there's no such thing as a doggie bag -- Prof. Kelly Brownell
These are NOT genetically modified (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm not sure if it's the skin, though, or the entire potato that's purple. The article wasn't very clear.
But in any case, the article is talking about how these will be a boon for ORGANIC farmers. I've not heard of a real organic farmer that used GM species, they tend to hate that more than pesticides!
Re:These are NOT genetically modified (Score:5, Interesting)
I buy food from the local farmers market, and we actually get quite a variety of blue/purple potatoes. Some varieties have a purplish skin. Cut it in half and you'll find the flesh is like a normal potato with the exception of a ring of blue about a half inch in from the skin. This typically fades somewhat in the cooking.
Others have a much more bluish tint to the skin. These varieties also tend have the entire flesh colored a washed-out blue-purple. They keep their color when cooked.
As to the taste, well.. it's a potato. There's hardly any difference between the lighter ones and your normal red potatos that I can tell (I'm no gourmet, though). The darker bluish ones I tend to think taste a bit better than regular potatos. They have a more... potato-ey.. flavor. Not sure how to describe it. It's as if they have a bit more of the essence of potato in them. Quite good, especially cubed and fried with a little olive oil and sour-cream to dip.
Re:These are NOT genetically modified (Score:2, Informative)
True... I saw some on Emeril's tv show on the Food Network the other night.
Purple potatoes are nothing new (Score:2)
Potatoes originated in Peru, where they come in a variety of colors: purple, red, white, yellow, sometimes all mixed together.
I haven't had much problem with disease, but the Colorado Potato Beetles are a real nuisance.
Check out www.irish-eyes.com and look at all of the different potato varieties they carry.
Re:Purple potatoes are nothing new (Score:2)
Purple potatoes (Score:2)
Its Kandinsky, not kadinsky (Score:2)
Wassily Kandinsky [everything2.com] was a painter. Check him out over at Thinker.org [thinker.org], this link [famsf.org] ought to get you some of his works. Thinker will probably die under the load. You should also look at This guy's kandinsky page [ibiblio.org].
Not every one... (Score:2)
It is very likely that it is resistant to all potato fungal diseases. At least if it is, it won't be for very long.
-Sean
Afterimage. (Score:2)
HEY KIDS!
Ever wonder what tater tots used to look like when your parents ate them as kids? Look at the purple tater tots in the green Heinz ketchup. Continue staring at them without moving your eyes while you count to 30. Then look at a blank white sheet of paper and you'll see an image of the potatoes amd ketchup in their old colors like your parents used to eat!
Well now, (Score:2)
Personally, I'd like to cut up a cluster of these and fry them, then do a review on the Official French Fries Pages [tx7.com]. And with neon green ketchup from Heinz, the page will certainly be memorable.
woof.
Purple Potatoes? (Score:2)
:)
screwing with food "cues"..? (Score:3, Insightful)
Using this example of purple potatoes; I see a real problem with the colour from the health aspect. Most normal potatoes get an off-white blotch when mold sets in and this is a fairly obvious cue that it's gone bad. Other vegetables have similar behaviour signaling their end. Taking this to the logical extreme suggested by this article, what happens when designer-coloured veggies are the norm? Are we going to have to relearn, and relearn again the signs of *bad* for each new vegetable-of-the-day?
Re:screwing with food "cues"..? (Score:2)
~Philly
Re:screwing with food "cues"..? (Score:2)
Who the hell cares what color the mold is? If there is an extra vegetable growing on the one I bought, I THROW IT AWAY!
Re:screwing with food "cues"..? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm pretty sure we haven't evolved to detect cues in McNuggets for their edibility, but we can still figure it out. All seriousness aside, Humans have only begun eating tomatoes fairly recently. They are part of the nightshade family (as well as potatoes and eggplant), and were thought to be poisonous [palomar.edu] until the 1800's.
As for purple potatoes, they are not genetically engineered or out of the ordinary in anyway other than lack of popularity. I've actually bought "blue" potatoes at the market that look purple to me, and are definitely purple after being cooked.
Even if they were rainbow colored, I really don't think it matters too much. We eat rainbow candy and icecream, chicken feet dim sum, oysters, bird nests made of spittle, pig's blood cakes, and all sorts of other things that our bodies probably aren't built for. So no need for the deity to decree that purple potatoes are "unclean".
LS
Re:screwing with food "cues"..? (Score:2)
Purple grapes
I don't think color says anything about what a food tastes like or their edibility. The only cue something is wrong is when there's a patch that's DIFFERENT colored to the rest of the item.
Re:screwing with food "cues"..? (Score:2)
The Potato Then & Now: History [ic.gc.ca]
History and Origin of the Potato [sunspiced.com]
Indepthinfo's "Potato! - History" [indepthinfo.com]
There is evidence that the potato was cultivated (i.e., selectively grown as opposed to collected from the wild) more than 4500 years ago. You will have a hard time finding any food in its original wild version, from potatoes to tomatoes to carrots to wheat to cows.
There's good and bad points to selective cultivation/breeding. The smell was "hybridded" out of roses, but they get long, straight stems, few thorns, single flowers on a stem, large buds that stay closed for a long time... just about everything that people want in cut flowers. We have nice, big heads of broccoli with lots of florets and few leaves.
I am not thrilled with GM foods, but not so much based on the "unnatural" aspect as from the lack of long-term safety studies and testing.
If you get your kicks walking through 2,000 acres looking for edible plants in their wild and natural/original state, more power to you. I have trouble looking for a few edible mushrooms on 2 acres, and there are few mushrooms that are as tasty (or as expensive) as the Steinpilz (boletus). I'll stick to supermarkets.
woof.
You wouldn't believe how serious a lot of people take potatoes. I found out once I started the Official French Fries Pages [tx7.com].
World Potato Atlas (Score:2, Informative)
As people have pointed out, there are a zillion varieties of potato, some of which are purple. Even at the time of the Incas there were thousands of varieties, many/most of which survive to today. Here's the South America page [cipotato.org] from the World Potato Atlas. And no, until 10 minutes ago I didn't know there was such a thing as a World Potato Atlas, but it has more information than I ever imagined would be on the web about where potatoes are grown, what kind are grown, and so on.
He says 'potatoe,' you say 'potatos.' (Score:2)
Just to set it straight (for the poster and for Mr. Quayle):
It's potato, not potatoe.
It's potatoes, not potatos.
It's like hero, heroes...
Re:He says 'potatoe,' you say 'potatos.' (Score:2)
Just waiting for... (Score:2)
Don't laugh, as it has already happened here in the US and Mexico over yellow beans.
staple (Score:2)
One thing I wonder about though...did they test if the potato is insect resistant as well in their laboratories? It may be virus/bacteria resistant, but will it attract some weird worms or insects (or animals even) that will destroy the crops? Maybe there is a reason why this variety was never cultivated in some countries...because it could not survive due to some interaction with other plants or animals.
Factory farm zombies (Score:4, Insightful)
The responses here show how much we've become factory farm zombies. Carrots are orange, potatoes are white, apples and tomatoes are red, etc.
In fact, what we're used to is what's convenient to ship or grow. If people were more concious of genetic diversity, we'd already have much more color on our plates. Orange carrots date from the last few hundred years, originally they were white or yellow or red. Apples came in various shades an combinations of yellow, red, and green. Corn can be blue, as well as potatoes. Tomatoes have a fantastically varied set of colors.
Some of these are now becoming known as "heirloom" varieties as people begin to understand how bland and overprocessed our diets have become.
"Heirloom" does not mean what you think it means (Score:2, Informative)
Re:"Heirloom" does not mean what you think it mean (Score:2)
Re:Factory farm zombies (Score:2)
"traditional" farms can't keep us fed
Nonsense. You'd quite likely have to pay a bit more for non-factory food, since you'd be paying farmers a living wage, but the amount of food wouldn't be an issue.
You might actually come out ahead, since if the farmers used sustainable agricultural techniques, you wouldn't be turning arable land into chemical dumps.
Extra planetary (Score:3, Interesting)
DEFINITELY TRY THESE!!! (Score:2, Interesting)
You can also cut them in big chunks and make "steak fries". They look normal on the outside (i.e., brown), but they're purple on the inside.
I've never had a guest flip out over the color, other than to remark on how nice they look.
A good reference on the subject (Score:2, Informative)
Potatoes as with other agricultural crops have several varieties which thrive depending on the climate and soil quality. Many have mutated over the years to combat pests in their environments and these are the ones being rediscovered. Usually these varieties do not have the productivity qualities desired by the farmer who wants to produce the most out of his land.
kadinsky? (Score:2)
Seems like the editor should check those links before putting them up!
Good thing I already know what a Kadinsky painting looks like.
Purple potatos... (Score:2)
They tasted just like regular red potatoes, and when I fried them up Saratoga style they made a very pleasant addition to a banquet-style spread we had for our halloween party.
I might add that they cost a bit less than the russets they had at the same market, and didn't taste anywhere near as the six dollar per pound organic russets I buy at the organic market when I make a batch of my super spicy Megabyte fries. Want the recipe? I'm afraid it's carefully guarded and heavily encrypted, but one of the secret ingredients is "sweetened cornmeal".
New America Potato Council Ad (Score:2)
Mmmm... colors (Score:2)
Seriously though, there are "natural" strains of potato that are purple, so it's not like it's some kind of freak.
Now, I'll get me a blue Nehi and settle back and enjoy the FD&C rainbow.
Green Ketchup... (Score:2)
Heinz also makes purple ketchup. I saw it in my local supermarket.
KANdinsky, hemos... KANdinsky. (Score:2, Informative)
blue potatoes, watermelon tomatoes, etc. (Score:2, Interesting)
Having been a normal supermarket shopper until a few years ago, these boxes contain spectacular produce. Nobody usually remembers that tomatoes aren't supposed to be hard, bright red and crunchy (or pasty).
Anyway the point is, they've had blue/purple potatoes in that box for years -- probably not the resistant kind. They're good and kind of fun to eat.
Beyond that, there are all kinds of funky tomatoes you've never seen. Last week we got these green tomatoes that were striped kind of like a watermelon. They were tart yet ripe -- really neat. There's yellow ones all gnarled up that are really good, orange, red, of all shapes and sizes.
All kinds of other funky foods come. Did you know there are many types of garlic some of which really are better than the standard grocery store Italian? Ever had a ground cherry (a bit like a tomatillo but sweet)?
The point is, there's a lot of "odd" foods out there that really aren't odd at all. We've just never seen them because it's so much easier to grow a field of identical, drought-resistant, disease-resistant, shipping-friendly idaho spuds than anything else. I encourage people to support their local farmer's markets and try Community Supported Agriculture -- not only is it earth-friendly but you get cool vegetables as well!
Purple inside as well (Score:2)
These aren't new. Blue and purple potatoes are perfectly normal, and common in South America.
Here in the US, you can even get them at your local health-food store. In fact, at the very moment I am writing this I am looking at a quite delicious bag of Terra[tm] [terrachips.com] brand "Blues" [terrachips.com] (more of a cabbage-like purple) chips. They are quite good, and a little starchier than your normal chips.
Apparently, enough of them haven't made it to the UK yet to be noticed.
Re:Puple skin or inside? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Learn to spell (Score:2)
And why can't you respond in THAT story, rather than here?
Re:I want to see! (Score:2)
Re:Purple is a natural colour for potatoes (Score:2)
Re:Geesh, the SKIN is purple, idiots... (Score:2, Informative)
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the at least the potato-brand Blue Congo (quite usual here in Sweden) is blue on the inside too. And they taste really nice. And make mashed potatoes look soooo much nicer. Those aren't GMO either.