New LED Backlights For LCD Screens 133
stuffman64 writes: "LumiLeds has a new LED backlighting technology based on their Luxeon Star LEDs. It is meant to replace the power-hogging CCFL lights currently in use. Benefits include longer battery life for notebooks, less weight, and a larger color gamut (up to 130% of the NTSC standard). The release can be found here." I wish I could hook up one of their evaluation kits to my machine right now;) The same site has quite a lot of LED-related information throughout.
Hmm.... (Score:3, Funny)
That's great. Exactly who is this press release for, anyway?
Re:Hmm.... (Score:4, Informative)
That would appear to be an actionably false claim. Color calibration can only go so far, especially when dealing with aspects of color that are not captured in current displays such as reflectance, and when mapping between different color gamuts.
Calibration also gives incorrect results when mapping between different kinds of color. Monitor color is additive, while real-world colors are usually subtractive.
Finally, color is heavily affected by ambient light conditions, to which monitors and real-world objects respond differently.
Calibration can reduce differences but it comes nowhere close to removing them.
Tim
Re:Hmm.... (Score:1)
I certainly wouldn't make that claim.
Re:Hmm.... (Score:2)
The design agency I used to work at spent a small fortune on upgrading their lighting to Pantone approved bulbs and tubes.
Re:Hmm.... (Score:4, Funny)
It's okay to love your LCD monitor, just don't looooove your LCD monitor...
Re:Hmm.... (Score:1)
It's so when that porn-star shows up at your door, you'll recognize the lipstick color.
News? (Score:1)
LumiLeds Lighting, the leader in high flux, high powered LED (light emitting diode) technology, today announced a new solution for LCD display backlights that will quickly and dramatically change the LCD backlight industry.
Re:News? (Score:2)
Re:News? (Score:1)
Re:News? (Score:2)
But if it was really that big of a 'break-through' why haven't we seen laptops announced with it yet?
They claim:
This doesn't really say much... Placement of the 'and' makes this sentence vague... is it 'LumiLeds and the LCD panel manufacturers target the end of the year' or 'LumiLeds target the end of the year... hum...
Seems like LumiLed's would have announce a partnership or firm agreement with a manufacturer by now if it was on target.
mini-version (Score:2, Interesting)
CCFL (Score:1, Funny)
I love the Man Show
All right! (Score:1)
GBA hacking (Score:1)
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Argh, my eyes (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:2)
I'm not really sure what the color flashing is for. Maybe you could use a monochrome LCD and cycle it while changing the colors to produce a full-color effect? That might be a lot more efficient than the current color-filters which absorb a lot of light I'm sure.
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:2)
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:1)
NOT_goatcx_really [dialight.com]
The more durable comment is certainly true, plus the long life. They are NOT cheaper per lumen, however. LED lightly is quite an order of magnitude in cost above incandescent and probably 2-4 times higher than flourescent. In summary, use fluorescent lamps for now where applicable and use the new-fangled LED lightly for robust, super-long-term, and small applications (laptops, flashlights, car dash lights, etc.). But in a few years.....practically everything will move to LED's.
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:2)
I was thinking that too. Not only could you get potentially better battery life, but 3x the resolution on current displays, since you don't need 3 subpixels for one color pixel.
C-X C-S
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:2)
However, TI had a display-on-a-chip (using mirrors mounted on micro-actuators, iirc) that used exactly this color cycling technique. As always, this was discussed on
But search is down, so I can't point you to the discussion. Make do with the original site instead:
http://www.dlp.com/dlp/default.asp
click on the "see how it works" for a flash animation. The "color" tab describes the process. With a physically spinning color disk. How oldskool!
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:1)
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:2)
You can buy awesome blue (also white) LED's from Radio Shack for about $3 or $4 a piece, cheaper from electronics sites on-line. Those babies are painfully bright... not your Daddy's LED's. I made a flashlight with a single white LED at the end of a piece of intercom wire with a 9v battery pack. I use it for looking around in computers and other cramped places, reading (much better than those Itty-Bitty Book Lights), and entertaining my kids.
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:3, Insightful)
For those who don't feel like building their own flashlight, check out CMG's Infinity Task Light. The LED lasts forever, and it boasts 40+ hours of continuous use on a single AA battery. I use NiMH batteries, which work even longer. The light is bright and rock-steady. I have a blue-green one that is by far the best camping light I've found - whether for reading in a tent or for late-night walks.
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:1)
For $20, I'll have to check one out--although it's not as useful for bopping someone on the head as a 4-D MagLite.
Oh, they also seem to have lanterns [cmgequipment.com]--coooool.
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:1)
Bright Blue LEDs (Score:2, Funny)
DO NOT STARE INTO LASER WITH REMAINING EYE!
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:1)
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Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:1)
Just a thought. *shrug*
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:1)
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:2)
I drive my monitor at 85 Hz, and I can look at it for about three hours before it starts to get uncomfortable. I know it isn't because I have a crummy monitor, it's a nice 20" flat surface Trinitron, or because of florecent lights since I use indirect hallogen lighting in my office.
In comparison, I can use my laptop, which has a much smaller LCD screen, for as long as I can pay attention. When I turn down the brightness and use my anti-eyestrain fonts and themes, I can hack for 24 hours at a stretch. The reason is because LCD screens do not flicker - LCD screens do not draw the screen by flashing one pixel at a time. If you or a friend have a laptop, try putting it next to a CRT. Set the CRT to the highest refresh rate it can handle, and set the laptop to the lowest refresh rate it can handle (although, for the laptop, it really doesn't matter, and you may only have one choice anyway). Waive your hand in front of the CRT, and then in front of the LCD. You will notice a rather remarkable difference.
The biggest reason that CRTs bug people is because most places use overhead florecent lighting. In the United States, all florecent lights flicker at 60 Hz, and 50 Hz in Europe and a lot of other countries. Chances are, your CRT and the overhead lights will flicker out of phase with one another, causing a much lower frequency strobing effect. The effect may be very subtle, but it will still drive most people crazy, even if they can't see it directly.
If these new LED backlit LCDs have the same flicker that CRTs do, I'll happily stick to the older technology. For the average person who doesn't need a no-flicker screen for 30 hour hacking sessions, these new screens will be awsome.
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:1)
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:1, Interesting)
As far as flicker with TV's is concerned. The current evolution is totally wrong. TV's are getting the same type of screens as PC's. Screens which light up for a lot shorter timeperiod when illuminated, which means they're black more of the time than old TV's, so they flicker more noticeably. If you want a flickerless TV, get yourself one of those big-ass really old TV's that had a nice afterglow. (It seems the bigger they are, the less the flicker, which I can't explain) Much easier on the eye. Or get yourself a 100 hz TV, those don't flicker either, but they cost an arm and a leg.
Or, you could just do like I did and get yourself a decent computer screen (as in big, flat, and with a low dot pitch) and a TV card, and then hook that all up to your stereo system. The quality is far superior to anything you can get from a TV, and the sound is very nice too. Plus, you can take screenshots of something stupid as it happens
It might become a problem to use that as the family TV though. But you could use an old PC as the TV, since all you need is a PCI bus and a reasonably decent PCI graphics card (that can drive the screen at 80 hz or higher in 800x600). The images get copied over the PCI bus to the graphics card, so your cpu doesn't get involved, which means that you could even use a low-end pentium for it.
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:2)
Well, I do have a hyper nervous system. ^_^
But as you (and the post I responded to) imply, the chemical reaction in your retina is not fast enough to directly perceive the flicker of a screen running at 80 or 85 Hz. However, you can indirectly perceive the flicker when it interfeares with other things, causing a strobing effect.
Also, the squeel from the flyback transformer buggs the hell out of me. My monitor is pretty decent in that respect - the transformer must somehow be dampened. But I can't stand the sound of televisions - I can hear that obnoxious squeel from across the street sometimes. I like your suggestion about using a TV tuner card - that's what I did in high school, although that was mainly because TV's were against the rules.
Re:Argh, my eyes (Score:2)
The LED backlights also have the same kind of flicker as your current LCD backlight. It's not a redraw kind of flicker, but an all-at-once kind of thing.
X-Mas Tree Lights (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:X-Mas Tree Lights (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:X-Mas Tree Lights (Score:1)
Just what you want! They weren't even that expensive...
Re:X-Mas Tree Lights (Score:1)
IF ONE GOES OUT THEY ALL GO OUT!!!
It will just a few more years to get there
Forget LCD (Score:1, Interesting)
Yawn, LCD section? (Score:1, Troll)
Can we have a new section specifically for LCD topics, instead of Science, so I can remove these boring little stories from my Slashdot homepage? Please?
Chris
Whoopee... (Score:2)
Then again, maybe not.
Hey...thats...useful :) (Score:1)
It seems that a lot of the hardware (processors, drives, lights) are being tuned to use less and less power (which is a good thing, mind you), but it makes me wonder...has battery technology become stagnant? I don't claim to be an expert on batteries (or anything else), but is the general thought that battery technology has gotten about as good as it's going to get (can't recall the last time I saw anything about better batteries), so let's concentrate on making the parts more effecient? Of course, I'd like to see more efficient parts as well as better batteries, but I won't be greedy yet.
Re:Hey...thats...useful :) (Score:1)
Re:Hey...thats...useful :) (Score:1)
Better bring a car battery... (Score:1)
Is it possible to use these in my home? (Score:1, Interesting)
LED backlighting a LCD (Score:1)
And I think the switching rate would be 10Mhz not the 60Hz another poster mentioned.
Re:LED backlighting a LCD (Score:2)
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The benifits (Score:1)
Article, for slashdot effect (Score:1)
[BOF]
LumiLeds Lighting Announces a Breakthrough LED Backlight Solution for LCD Monitors, Notebooks, and LCD Televisions.
This solution offers larger color gamut, longer battery life and eliminates the last non-solid-state component in the display.
San Jose, Calif. March 20, 2001
LumiLeds Lighting, the leader in high flux, high powered LED (light emitting diode) technology, today announced a new solution for LCD display backlights that will quickly and dramatically change the LCD backlight industry.
This LED backlight solution has been optimized around LumiLeds' new high flux LuxeonTM light sources and will enable a whole host of new features that are currently not available via conventional CCFL (cold cathode fluorescent lamp) backlight technology. LumiLeds' LED backlights are the first solid-state solutions for medium to large LCD displays in the industry, immensely more durable than the fragile CCFL while eliminating EMI and mercury completely.
The benefits to end-users are huge. The larger color gamut, up to 130% of NTSC in the backlight, will let the user enjoy an enhanced viewing experience with more saturated and real-life colors. The shade of red lipstick you purchased on the Internet and viewed on your LCD monitor will be the exact color red you receive in the mail.
Color sequential technology enabled by a fast switching LuxeonTM light source, less than 100 nano seconds, will potentially result in a battery life that will allow you to leave your power adapters at home on a typical business trip.
"We're extremely excited about our LED backlight technology", claims Mark Pugh, LumiLeds' VP of strategic marketing, "This solution will allow the LCD display market to go head-head with the incumbent CRT market and win on all performance fronts adding real value for the end user".
LumiLeds is already working with LCD panel manufacturers for mass adoption and has targeted having LuxeonTM powered backlights on the market by the end of this year.
About LumiLeds
LumiLeds Lighting is the leader in high power LEDs, dedicated to developing innovative solid-state lighting solutions in the automotive lighting, traffic signaling, signage, and general lighting markets. The company is vertically integrated, producing core LED material, LED packaging, and light source solutions. LumiLeds is one of the few companies with LED material producing capabilities in all three base colors- Red, Green, Blue.
LumiLeds Lighting, headquartered in San Jose, California, is a joint venture company between Agilent Technologies and Philips Lighting. LumiLeds maintains a global infrastructure including operations in Best, The Netherlands, Penang, Malaysia, and sales offices throughout the world.
Note:
Information in this release is accurate at time of release. However, product specifications and availability, promotions, prices, relationships, contact numbers and other specific information is subject to change over time. Information as stated in the release may or may not be in effect after the date of release.
In addition, the news releases may contain statements that are forward-looking. These statements are based on current expectations as of the date of a particular release. Actual results may differ materially from those projected because of a number of risks and uncertainty.
[EOF]
130% NTSC? (Score:2)
[1] Never The Same Color
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I am surprised.... (Score:1)
The other cool thing about LED's is that if you run more of them at lower power levels, you actually get a more efficient light array out of it. Running them at half their rated power gives more than half the light of the max rated power. You can do some really efficient lighting if you really capitolize on that...and it even scales like that further down the power scale...Plus the buggers won't burn out for quite a few years.
Power requirements of LCD screens? (Score:1)
What's the power usage of an LCD screen? I mean, it's great that we're cutting power usage to extend battery life, but I always thought that the hard drive and CD/DVD drives sucked up the most juice. Around where does the processor power usage fall into place?
I'm just wondering if power saving in the LCD is really all that worth it. "You can leave your power adapters at home because your screen is more efficient!" Ummm... OK.
In other news, at least they're getting the lead out.
Re:Power requirements of LCD screens? (Score:1, Informative)
Some Canon digicams already use LED backlights (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Some Canon digicams already use LED backlights (Score:1)
Er, um, ok. well, sure. (Score:2)
Being lower power than CCFL isn't impressive. I also would not want to buy a laptop that used a side-lighting system of any kind, be it fancy-dandy LED or CCFL, because side lighting systems simply can't illuminate the whole screen.
LED side-lights have been around a long, long, long, long, long time. They are lower voltage than ccfl or EL, but both ccfl and led draw more amps than electro-luminescent backlighting.
That being said, the reason not everything uses EL is because EL is *expensive. And sometimes it's not bright enough for the task. iPaqs appear to be CCFL side-lit, for instance, and are freakin bright. side-lighting works well on a pocket computer becaise the screen is small enough that it can be uniformly lit from the side.
LCD technology has been improving every day, getting brighter and lower power. Maybe they've figured out a way to run a lot of white LEDs on only a little power, and this may presumably save you the cost and space of implementing an inverter to drive an EL or CCFL.
But it sounds to me like the the major thing they're shooting for is cost savings. if you wanted bright on a real small screen you'd go CCFL, and if you wanted low power you'd go EL. this sounds like they've made LED side-lights better than they used to be, but I doubt they're as good as other technologies.
I'd have to see a CCFL side-lit device right next to one that's been retrofitted with one of these fancy new LED side-lights before I'd advocate it from a quality-of-experience perspective.
argh (Score:2)
I'd only be happy with one of these if all three of those were user-adjustable (and that includes turning off the last one).
Gameboy Advance improvement possibilities? (Score:1)
grimzap
Gmaeboy Advance (Score:1)
forget backlight: what about house light? (Score:1)
Oh, wow. (Score:1)
[slashdot.org]
Automotive LEDs (Score:2)
According to HP's Agilent optoelectronics spinoff, in the time it takes for the tungsten filaments in your car's brake lights to become red hot, at 75 MPH, your car would have travelled 25 feet.
I've already got some on my 1976 Dodge Ram. When the brake or turn signals go on, it looks like one of those new Cadillac Eldorados. :) Any news of newer and brighter LEDs is always welcomed. They affect our lives in myriad ways.
Re:Automotive LEDs (OT) (Score:2)
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~GoRK
Re:Automotive LEDs (Score:2)
I've been thinking about doing this to my Ranger - where did you pick up the LEDs, and are you using integrated 12V ones, or do you have a seperate regulator for them?
Yes, please tell us more about how you did your lamp conversion. I'd be very interested in upgrading my tail lamps and other markers with LED's.
The LEDs are 3,500MCD each, from Mode Electronics. I run a dozen of them.
Under the dashboard and connected to the brake pedal, I used a 7805 regulator to cut the voltage down to something predictable. The regulator also provides overload protection; that is, if the rest of the controller fails catastrophically, the main brake lights will still work.
In the truck's back end, there's a 555 timer IC with industrial temperature range capacitors and resistors doing the timing. The 555 sets about a 15% duty cycle, dumping 5V directly across each LED. The current through each diode is about 200mA. This is the limit of what they're designed to handle, and they get warm. :) A fairly large electrolytic capacitor takes up the slack in what the regulator can handle.
From the back end, the LEDs are every bit as bright as the main tail lights. And because of how I mounted them, they're essentially invisible until I touch the brake pedal.
It's really a slick setup.