Chandra Discovers Enormous 'Skull' 106
ActMatrix writes: "Just in time for Halloween, the Chandra X-Ray Observatory has imaged a portion of the Perseus A Cluster that looks frightfully like an enormous skull. The "eyes" are apparently created by bubbles of gas created by electrons blasting out of a region near an enormous black hole, and the "mouth" is a galaxy with an estimated 20 billion stars. Chandra has snapped some amazing images so far, and this one is no exception. The Discovery.Com article has a good pic of the skull."
Ummm..... (Score:1)
nebula (nby-l)
n., pl. nebulae (-l) or nebulas.
1. Astronomy. a. A diffuse mass of interstellar dust or gas or both, visible as luminous patches or areas of darkness depending on the way the mass absorbs or reflects incident radiation.
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Coincidence? You be the judge... (Score:2)
What is the coincidence? They found a picture a bit like a head, and the galaxy is named after someone who had a head (or two)? What (in the immortal words of Harry Hill) are the chances of that?
Re:Hmmm.... (Score:1)
Skull found on slashdot, too (Score:5)
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Re:Not exactly scary (Score:1)
well then (Score:1)
you're happily staring through it plumbing the mysteries of the universe.
a big, burning, grinning skull is staring right the fuck at you. it's not staring anywhere else, it's staring right the fuck at YOU.
this does not bother you in the least?
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Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:2)
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From the Discovery Article... (Score:1)
I really don't know what to say about this. Are they really suggesting they're worried someone will be scared out of their wits by this picture? "Man sues Discovery.com, Observatory for posting Satanic-themed picture"? Surely over-sensitive people haven't taken over THIS much.
One can only hope that they made this comment tounge-in-cheek.
Re:Modern Superstition (Score:5)
It's Halloween, so the researchers checked their library of images and looked for an image that fits the occasion. I for one prefer scientific projects where the researchers enjoy their work so much that they can do something like this.
I'm sure that the same scientists will check their library again for Christmas and see if they can find some Christmas-related picture, too.
It's a cute joke, that's it. Got it?
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Contest! (Score:1)
First award: for coordinates of slashdot.org letters[1] on the sky in any observable range.
Second award: for coordinates of Linux penguin or MS Windows logo.
[1] Text should be OCR capable.
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Re:if that looks like a skull... (Score:1)
//rdj
Re:Alas... (Score:1)
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
This is something of an interest of mine...belive what you like about whatever else -- this stuff is actually rather interesting, regardless of whatever formed them. Extremely complex sets of symbols and designs ('circle' doesn't at all describe a great deal of them nowadays) that appear overnight in the middle of nowhere all across the globe is something worthy of at least keeping an eye on, just to see where it goes: be it foreign OR domestic in origin.
Re:Let's link right to the pretty picture :-) (Score:1)
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ ast ropix.html [nasa.gov]
Good only on Tuesday.
Classic sci-fi (Score:2)
Savant
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
buoyant? (Score:1)
Could somebody explain buoyancy in space?
What's next? (Score:2)
Re:well then (Score:2)
For "privileged" vantage points, there are 360 degrees of possible azimuthal sight lines, times 180 for longitudinal (I know I'm not using very good terminoligy here, but you get the idea).
That's quite a bit of space to have a specific sight line (directly perpendicular to the plane of a binary star system's orbit for example) but not nearly as large as a random Hamlet. A work of literature as complicated as Hamlet will NEVER be randomly generated by a pack of monkeys, unless you want to wait many orders of magnitude longer than the age of the universe. We have many examples of star systems and galaxies, however, for which we view them nearly perpendicularly (or more likely, since any azimuthal angle is equivalent the probability is higher) along their plane.
Add the variety to the universe coupled with our mind's excellent image processing, which is eager to find order in chaos, and you find pictures such as this one.
Doug
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
Re:well then (Score:1)
It might be easier to assume that its easy to think that three holes in a spherical shape could easily look like a skull. Especially on Halloween. Now if a nebulae looked like a crab, that would be something (j/k).
Re:I can just see the tabloids... (Score:1)
Oh, yes, could I please get one? *grin*
I can just see the tabloids... (Score:5)
My guess is we'll also see either the formation or mass suicide of at least one doomsday cult, which the media will connect with this. Mass hysteria will follow, accompanied by loads of new material for late-night talk show comedians.
And finally, someone, somewhere is going to find a way to capitalize on this. Inside of two weeks we'll see "Space Skull" T-shirts, hats, etc.
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if that looks like a skull... (Score:1)
//rdj
We're doomed (Score:1)
A SKULL? Horse manure! (Score:1)
Argh! Beware the Pirate Galaxy! (Score:1)
Interesting.
Walk the plank! [ridiculopathy.com]
Re:Big Deal (Score:1)
They could even have a "Whose butt is it anyway" contest
That would be nice. Especially if you got to compare with the real thing - standing on a stage 5 feet from you.
Just Goes to Show... (Score:1)
DOOM (Score:2)
Re:well then (Score:2)
In a universe as vast as ours, chance alignments are inevitable.
Doug
Don't you see (Score:1)
skull? (Score:2)
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NOT SO MUCH A SKULL (Score:1)
Will'o'Wisp (Score:1)
Re:I can just see the tabloids... (Score:3)
At least that's something politicians can't blame on video games, music, television, movies, the internet, etc.
Fund the mission! (Score:2)
Re:The outer gods wont like this one... (Score:1)
Hmmmm (Score:1)
other way around... (Score:1)
Seth
We saw it straight after the observation (Score:1)
Jeremy
Re:Alas... (Score:1)
it's "Alas, Poor Yorrick, I knew him well..." "
Actually, you are wrong and the original poster was correct.
It is a common misconception, but the ACTUALY line is, indeed,
"Alas, poor Yorick; I knew him, Horatio..."
I wish people would check their facts before posting from time to time!
Well what did you expect from an X-RAY telescope? (Score:1)
Ever stare into a roaring fire and see pictures in the flames?
That's what this is like, basically. Someone at the lab said something like "Hey, if you turn your head and squint a bit at this picture, it looks kinda like a skull!"
And it's good hallowe'en based publicity.
Chandra tends to be like Hubble's less famous brother, as the Hubble's pictures tend to be prettier than X-Ray pictures. So anything that raises its visibility in the public eye has to be good.
Although sadly I expect some religious nutters to pick up on this. Perhaps we can tell them "God is dead, and that's his skull!"
Hacker: A criminal who breaks into computer systems
The Mote in God's Eye anyone? (Score:1)
Re:if that looks like a skull... (Score:1)
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
Or maybe some pranksters used the tractor tracks to walk down to create a piece of Crop Art in a visible place.
And that's what Crop Circles are. They're not magic(k), they're not alien, they're a couple of pranksters performing art.
Hacker: A criminal who breaks into computer systems
They actually found this a few months ago... (Score:2)
Hmmm.... (Score:1)
There was a similarly unconvincing story a while back relating to what looks like a face on the surface of Mars [msss.com]
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Subjective interpretation (Score:2)
The human brain is pre-programmed to infer human characteristics from visual inputs.
Remember the man in the moon?
Skull??? (Score:1)
The outer gods wont like this one... (Score:5)
Pray that we won't be seeing Cthulhu anythime soon, but be on the lookout for fungi from Yuggoth.
Not exactly scary (Score:1)
Alas... (Score:2)
I knew him, Horatio...
Re:The outer gods wont like this one... (Score:1)
I thought it was Azathoth who sat out in space.... Of course, I'm not really up on my Cthulhu mythos...
Eric Gearman
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Re:The outer gods wont like this one... (Score:1)
that was a skull? (Score:1)
This is Bogus (Score:1)
0x0000
Re:The outer gods wont like this one... (Score:1)
Cause Uncle Abdul tells me so,
You are weak and he is strong,
Piss him off, you won't last long.
Ia! Cthulhu loathes me!
Ia! Cthulhu loathes me!
Ia! Cthulhu loathes me,
Cause Abdul tells me so.
Re:The great expedition (Score:1)
That's all we need! (Score:2)
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:3)
A crystal city on the back of the moon! Mars Fungus! Frozen Pipes!
Why do these people get all the good drugs?
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
Occam's razor - it MUST have been Liz Hurley. Will post remaining later
Occam's Razor need not apply to everything.
Many a times, it is the 'not the simplest' solution which it the correct one.
Modern Superstition (Score:2)
Reminds me of those oh-so-profound calculations that Bill Gates = 666. Yeah right. I fancy just about anyone's name can be made into 666, you just hafta find a suitable contortion and strange way of calculation.
Isn't it odd that modern, so-called scientific, man still finds fascination in such things?
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Everything is Perception (Score:1)
I can relate... (Score:2)
I know the feeling all too well. Felt like that the day after a Happy Hour session....
Alternatively... (Score:1)
nebula noun [C] SPECIALIZED
a cloud of gas or dust in space, appearing either bright or dark
nebular adjective SPECIALIZED
Re:The outer gods wont like this one... (Score:1)
Does that require any outside help? I thought scientists are babbling psychotics unless proven otherwise?
Re:The outer gods wont like this one... (Score:1)
Bleh, Azathoth is an H.P. Lovecraft invention. Get over it. =)
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
However, if you saw something that only vaguely resembled Liz Hurley (think: picture of a nebula), but clearly could not be her then Occam's Razor does not tell you to assume it was her, but to assume it was
Re:if that looks like a skull... (Score:2)
It's Bill The Cat's skull, can't you tell?
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
Crop Circles are a prank - almost an artform, as pranksters try to make more and more complicated constructions to out-do each other. Maybe they have more than a few people. Maybe they have all their friends.
Hacker: A criminal who breaks into computer systems
Time to watch Hella-Weenie (Score:1)
Space images (Score:2)
Other cool space images from Yahoo on the Soyuz launch:
Transport [yahoo.com]
Launch pad [yahoo.com]
Liftoff [yahoo.com]
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Re:I can just see the tabloids... (Score:1)
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Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
Then the problem of Occams Razor would be that no matter who you saw that looked like Liz Hurley, you would never believe it was really her since a look alike is the simplest explanation.
Occams Razor is a Roulette Table stratagy, its just playing the odds. It may be applied to every situation, but it is not correct in every situation (hence its a razor not a law.)
Re:The outer gods wont like this one... (Score:1)
Fist Prost
"We're talking about a planet of helpdesks."
Re:We're doomed (Score:1)
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
Re:Skull found on slashdot, too (Score:1)
Hell, probably all week...
Re:well then (Score:1)
Randomness is the new way to "explain what we can't explain." Kind of like what God was to people before Darwin showed them the way.
There was a Scientific article even that showed how there could be a negative value of entropy, if the rest of the universe was infinite entropy (meaning enough randomness should produce one example of extreme order) right? The problem is we aren't in a universe of infinite entropy.
p.s. I'm not saying this is random, I'm not saying this is a sign from heaven.
Looks like PacMan to me... (Score:1)
Re:Ummm..... (Score:2)
Now we know where skrulls come from.. (Score:1)
Oops sorry wrong comic.
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:5)
Yup, it goes to show how strongly our pattern recognition firmware is geared towards social interaction.
It always makes me amused to hear about the "Face on Mars", which is a somewhat symmetrical mountain that does look vaguely like a human face. Some people take this as evidence of intelligent life trying to contact us. Sheesh.
Occam's Razor, people. Just because you see some lights in the sky doesn't mean we're being visited by aliens. Just because the pyramids in Egypt are made out of big, heavy blocks doesn't mean that we had construction help from "Ancient Astronauts". And some long scratches in the ground do not mean it's an spaceship runway.
What gets me the most are the people who believe crop circles are done by aliens. And this is after the original guys showed how they did it on TV!
OK, that drifted a bit. I must be in rant mode today.
Face recognition (Score:1)
Re:Big Deal (Score:1)
Re:Hmmm.... (Score:1)
What do you think the word nebula means?
Re:Skull??? (Score:1)
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
Another good link... (Score:1)
Re:Skull My Ass - Its realy a......... (Score:1)
Re:Alas... (Score:1)
it's "Alas, Poor Yorrick, I knew him well..." and then he goes on to talk about how the weirdo molested him as a child.
Re:That's all we need! (Score:1)
Go form your own paranoid conclusions from this.
Hey! That's where they filmed "Fifth Element"! (Score:1)
Remember, in the beginning -- a huge flaming thing hurls towards the ship and then a skull appears in the middle of it... And right after that Bruce Willis wakes up.
Oh, jiit. What if 5-El was a prophecy?.. "But I don't want to go to Egypt!"
Re:Fund the mission! (Score:1)
Noooooooo! Stay far away from him. It's Sinistar!
Run, coward, run!
Come on guys, grow up... (Score:1)
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
I recently learned in a neuroscience class that faces have special neurons for them in the brain. They are the only things that your eyes see that have special neurons dedicated to recognizing. That's the reason you can recognize someone's face from so far away. Therefore all this makes sense, people seeing faces in things, such as the face on mars and this "skull".
Other animals have special recognition capabilities for other forms by the way, though I forget specific examples.
Re:Subjective interpretation (Score:1)
Looks like we've hit a cultural divergence here. I had no idea that there were dozens of people with the exact same appearance as Liz Hurley. Hence my question: "who's Liz Hurley btw?"
However, my point remains: Occam's Razor can be applied to everything: it's just going with the best choice.
And with my cultural background, I was also right about the woman probably being Liz Hurley because, lacking the important knowledge that Liz Hurley has been cloned, it was the simplest explanation.
Then the problem of Occams Razor would be that no matter who you saw that looked like Liz Hurley, you would never believe it was really her since a look alike is the simplest explanation.
If you had no additional information about the person you were seeing, that would be the best explanation, so no problem here in my book.
Btw, my interpretation of the post by SevenSeasOfRhye was that he compared actually seeing Liz Hurley and seeing a picture of a nebula that looked like Liz Hurley. Obviously the second is not the same as the first and therefore he dared criticizing Occam's Razor. I just couldn't let that one slip.
truth to red meat comic (Score:1)
Alas..... (Score:3)
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