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Turning a Nail Polish Disaster Into a Teachable Math Moment 126

theodp writes: In The Spiral of Splatter, SAS's Rick Wicklin writes that his daughter's nail polish spill may have created quite a mess, but at least it presented a teachable math moment: "'Daddy, help! Help me! Come quick!' I heard my daughter's screams from the upstairs bathroom and bounded up the stairs two at a time. Was she hurt? Bleeding? Was the toilet overflowing? When I arrived in the doorway, she pointed at the wall and at the floor. The wall was splattered with black nail polish. On the floor laid a broken bottle in an expanding pool of black ooze. 'It slipped,' she sobbed. As a parent, I know that there are times when I should not raise my voice. I knew intellectually that this was one of those times. But staring at that wall, seeing what I was seeing, I could not prevent myself from yelling. 'Oh my goodness!' I exclaimed. 'Is that a logarithmic spiral?'" So, got any memorable teachable math moments you've experienced either as a kid or adult? Yes, Cheerios Math counts!
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  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12, 2015 @10:48AM (#49898437)

    When dealing with the shame of owning an Emo/Goth child, it's important not to blame yourself.

    It was likely exposure to some toxic chemical that turned her bad, not your parenting.

    At least that is what you should tell yourself.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12, 2015 @10:57AM (#49898499)
      Not necessarily. Any child who has a parent who would immediately think 'is that a logarithmic spiral' rather than 'how in the hell am I going to clean this mess up and how much is it going to cost me' is pretty much assured to wind up really fucked up.
      • by Anonymous Coward

        She'll have a kid with a guy she meets at a nightclub who makes passes at everything that moves.

      • by hawguy ( 1600213 ) on Friday June 12, 2015 @12:48PM (#49899167)

        Not necessarily. Any child who has a parent who would immediately think 'is that a logarithmic spiral' rather than 'how in the hell am I going to clean this mess up and how much is it going to cost me' is pretty much assured to wind up really fucked up.

        Really? That's how you define bad parenting? A parent that's excited about a learning opportunity after a messy accident rather than being upset about something that a few dollars of touchup paint can cover over?

        Some parents have literally killed children over far less, this parent gets an A++ in my book.

        • by plopez ( 54068 ) on Friday June 12, 2015 @02:16PM (#49899627) Journal

          "Cutting yourself again Brianna? Whoa look at those neato fractal patterns the blood splatter is making!"

        • Covering over black so that it doesn't show isn't easy. It can take a surprising number of coats to do the job. Sometimes you can strip all of the paint off the wall and start fresh; other times you're better off going with wallpaper. Still, I agree with you that the father deserves an A++ for understanding that it was an accident.
          • by hawguy ( 1600213 )

            Covering over black so that it doesn't show isn't easy. It can take a surprising number of coats to do the job. Sometimes you can strip all of the paint off the wall and start fresh; other times you're better off going with wallpaper. Still, I agree with you that the father deserves an A++ for understanding that it was an accident.

            I haven't come across anything that this won't cover:

            http://www.homedepot.com/p/KIL... [homedepot.com]

            Not even when the tenants thought it would be cool to paint a hexagram on their bedroom wall in black paint.

        • Relax man. He was talking tongue-in-cheek. :)

      • by TheCarp ( 96830 )

        Completely redundant...... let me fix that "...Any Child.... is pretty much assured to wind up really fucked up" from somebodies point of view.

        However, when you realize how fucked up that persons point of view is, it all averages out to normal, whatever that is.

      • Not necessarily. Any child who has a parent who would immediately think 'is that a logarithmic spiral' rather than 'how in the hell am I going to clean this mess up and how much is it going to cost me' is pretty much assured to wind up really fucked up.

        Are you in another world.
        What a wonderful father. The damage was done, and the broken bottle was accidental. What a way to soothe a child's worries and to, at the same time, inject some tender loving care.

        His wife must be very happy to have such a partner.

    • by funwithBSD ( 245349 ) on Friday June 12, 2015 @11:18AM (#49898643)

      The emaciated boyfriends could be a plus, less likely to pull a muscle while dragging the body to the trunk.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Beating a dead horse here, but emo is not a style of dress. It was (I say was because there are very few bands that still hold true to the genre) a branch of hardcore punk in the 80's. I know I'm a rare breed, but I like to know what words actually mean before I go throwing them around like a beach balls at a Nickelback concert.

    • by freeze128 ( 544774 ) on Friday June 12, 2015 @11:36AM (#49898757)
      Something's not right here....

      "Daddy! Daddy! Help!" isn't the response that you would expect from a Goth child. It would be more like "Whatever. We're all doomed anyway...."
      • I knew that whole story was made up BS. No way that kid doesn't get yelled at for using nail polish in upstairs. Every parent knows this.
    • by plopez ( 54068 )

      At least it wasn't a Vamp douche bag.

    • It doesn't mean Goth...
      If she wanted to make Ladybug design she would use Black and a Red Background, this makes the accident plausible as she is trying to manipulate a bottle with wet nails, combined with the possibility of trying to do more detail work.

      It could be used as a base so the lighter colors will stand out better.

    • Some people wear black nail polish for the same reason that Steve Jobs wore black turtlenecks: because black goes with everything.

      If you're as fashion-impaired as I am, it's useful to stick with something that you know will work. Dressing with some modicum of sense is a courtesy to others.

  • Nary a one
  • When my window replacement contractr cheated me by installing windows with IR coating I showed my kids how so visualize it from the reflection of a butane lighter flame. (the colors of the multiple reflections should red shift if it preferentially reflects red light).

    I also showed them how the sun is about the size of a quarter and lands in arizona at night.

    • I mean they were without the IR coating I had paid for.

      • by Nexus7 ( 2919 )

        Interesting, so in AZ you prefer IR and now low-e coating.

        • Interesting, so in AZ you prefer IR and now low-e coating.

          the purpose of the IR coating is twofold in the southwest. First, the object is not to keep heat in the house but to reflect the heat away. Most houses have a brow to keep direct light out. But it hits the ground and walls outside and then comes into the house as IR. So the Low E coating is actually intended to keep the IR out of the house. In the northern winters it's the opposite where you want to keep the heat in the house.

          Second, the IR coating turn out to also be correlated with good UV prevention

          • by Nexus7 ( 2919 )

            Oh, IR and low-E are the same?

            (I meant to say "not low-e" in my original reply).

            • IR coating is the dominant contributor to low-e. the other is the argon fill gas, but that leaks out soon enough.

    • You didn't finish the story! What about getting your windows replaced? Did you get to demonstrate this property to the contractor?

      • no the contractor stopped showing up and it was not worth going to court over a few thousand dollars so I just fired him.

  • Far Side (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Kludge ( 13653 ) on Friday June 12, 2015 @11:07AM (#49898575)

    As much of life does, this reminds me of a Far Side cartoon where a boy is sitting in front of a chalk board as his father writes equations on it, and to the right there is a broken window. To paraphrase the caption, 'Of all punishments Jimmy most hated his father's physics lectures.'

    • And surprise, the father's account in TFA corresponds to your Far Side cartoon precisely - perhaps even more precisely than the splatter to the logarithmic spiral.

      As punishment for my daughter's carelessness, I told her that she had to help me input data from the photograph. She claimed that this punishment was "cruel and unusual," but she did it anyway.

    • Maybe just because it's Friday on /., but for me the "force STEM on girls" vibe brought this Onion vid to mind:
      http://www.clickhole.com/video... [clickhole.com]
  • Did somebody buy out slashdot while we weren't looking?

    • The sponge may have been removed from market before this daughter was conceived. Sadly, it's probably also too late for "get an abortion."

      • The sponge may have been removed from market before this daughter was conceived. Sadly, it's probably also too late for "get an abortion."

        No, to wipe it up.

        God, no wonder no woman will have kids with you ...

    • DICE, years ago. Didn't you get the memo?
    • Oh, come now, who fucking wouldn't come to Slashdot for our insightful, helpful, utterly fucking hilarious, and family-friendly parenting advice?

      We be experts at being all growed up and shit.

      Good god, man, go ask a sales guy to teach a course in ethics while you're at it.

  • log spirals (Score:1, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward

    'Oh my goodness!' I exclaimed. 'Is that a logarithmic spiral?'

    No!

    https://xkcd.com/spiral/

  • If you'd attacked the stain right away, before the solvents evaporated, you could have cleaned up the wall. But instead you chose to grab a camera and take pictures, and solve math problems with your kid. Now you've got a minor DIY nightmare on your hands. Consider yourself lucky if your wife allows you to use the same colors, and doesn't consider this an opportunity for a bathroom makeover.
    • by dskoll ( 99328 )

      You can remove even dried-on nail polish quite easily with nail polish remover; I do it all the time when my nail polish starts looking chipped and ragged. (Wait, is the chipping pattern a fractal?)

      Of course, nail polish remover is likely to do nasty things to synthetic fabrics and possibly even walls, so you need to be careful.

    • So in your world, it's wasted time to wonder at the rich and interesting complexity of the world, rather than simply getting into drudge work like cleaning. Your world sucks. I prefer his.

      Consider yourself lucky if your wife allows you to use the same colors, and doesn't consider this an opportunity for a bathroom makeover.

      Also, maybe he actually has a functional relationship with his wife.

  • Every time somebody I know turns an age that is a "round" number in my head I get a special nerd-glee. Squares and Cubes do it, for example: 9,16, 27, 64 etc.

    l also enjoy hiding the Fibonacci Sequence in things, just to see who notices.

    On my 27'th birthday I got a "Happy Birthday" message with Fibonacci exclamation points. I was most pleased.
    • My son's birthday this year happened to be a palindrome. I also told him that he would only get one Palindrome Birthday ever. He got excited when I explained what a palindrome was. I, on the other hand, got sad when I realized that my Palindrome Birthday took place in 2008 and I missed celebrating it.

      As far as the "nerd-glee" goes, I feel that every time my odometer hits a big round number (e.g. 47,000 miles), a palindrome (e.g. 47,674 miles), or some other mathematically significant number.

      • by Punko ( 784684 )
        this kind of nerd glee is nothing more than typical human pattern recognition. The fact that your brain picks out mathematical patterns, is your peculiarity. Some of us pick up on language patterns, on movement (dynamic) patterns, some on patterns in the layout of bricks in a wall. Humans are pre-programmed to detect patterns. Its how we survive things that are trying to eat us, and how we figure out how we can eat other things.
      • by JazzLad ( 935151 )
        I have to live to be 7811 years old to get mine ... at least I'm not Jewish, then I'd have to live to be 65,905!
        • I am Jewish and I only need to live 890 years to reach mine. As a bonus, if I live ten more years, I'll be able to say "When 900 years you reach, look as good you will not." Whether anyone will get the reference 860 years from now is another story.

      • by JazzLad ( 935151 )
        Incidentally, how were you born on 8/00? :)
        • by Whiteox ( 919863 )

          Octo (a nickname) was born on the 8/8/88. Totally meaningless otherwise except for the epithet.

      • by dissy ( 172727 )

        My son's birthday this year happened to be a palindrome. I also told him that he would only get one Palindrome Birthday ever.

        Unless you cheat and use two digits for the year ;}

        Using my preferred number formatting (Y-M-D) my last palindrome birthday was in 2012, and using US number formatting (M-D-Y) I'll have another one in 2025.

        Sadly if I was to stick to four digit years my only actual palindrome birthday would fall in 2125, so barring any major life extension technologies I'll never see it :{

        • I actually was cheating with the 2 digit years. Good point about using YY-MM-DD format, though. Using that, I'll have a palindrome birthday in 15 years!

  • Following a recipe is like following a procedure or algorithm. A segue to programming.

    • by plopez ( 54068 )

      Then of course there is the entire physics and chemistry aspect to it such as what Alton Brown did.

      And this is a great demo of a heat equation:
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem... [dailymail.co.uk]

    • by mwvdlee ( 775178 )

      It could be fun trying to follow a recipe literally, trying to misinterpret the recipe as much as possible within the bounds of the literal interpretation, then change the recipe until it works.

      • by plopez ( 54068 )

        Most recipes I have read have been poorly written. They are also poorly broken into parallel tracks such as what you would see in a PERT chart.

  • Moms all over the country return to find their nail polish splattered against their basement walls.

    Just kidding -- most of the nerds already left /.

  • Nothing ruins the world for parent, child, and innocent bystanders like making everything a teachable moment. Let's leave the teaching for the classroom and let the rest of the time be free of the tyranny of pedagogy.

  • I was helping my son with his math homework.
    It was factoring polynomials: stuff like x^2 + 5x + 6 -> (x+2)(x+3)
    He basically had the mechanics down.
    He looked at the next problem, and picked up his pencil to start grinding his way into it.
    Without thinking, I slapped my hand down on the place where he was about to start writing, and said, "No! It's easier to think than to do it."
    And he thought, and he wrote down the answer.

  • Or Triscuits, Chex, etc... Spinning a giant wet LEGO gear as a top shows tangents...
  • "I was given 30 minutes to spend at the arcade. There is only 5 minutes left. Is this enough time to play the free game I just won? Or should I leave now since there may be a chance I won't be able to finish it?"
  • Sure. Isometric grid paper is a great thing to have around to teach 2d and 3d construction, geometry and can be very creative. Like lego blocks on paper.
    I prefer the dot only type.

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