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Saudi Cleric Pummeled On Twitter For Claiming Driving Damages Women's Ovaries 408

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from the I'm-not-a-doctor-but-I-play-one-on-TV dept.
An anonymous reader writes "CNN reports, "Sheikh Saleh Al-Loheidan's widely derided remarks have gone viral ... 'If a woman drives a car,' Al-Loheidan told Saudi news website sabq.org. 'it could have a negative physiological impact. It would automatically affect a woman's ovaries and that it pushes the pelvis upward.' ... 'We find that for women who continuously drive cars, their children are born with varying degrees of clinical problems.' The controversial comments were widely interpreted throughout Saudi Arabia as an attempt to discourage women in the country from joining a popular online movement urging them to stage a demonstration by driving cars on October 26. 'This is his answer to the campaign,' Saudi women's rights activist Aziza Yousef told CNN. 'He's making a fool of himself. He shouldn't touch this field at all.' Al-Loheidan's words have been ridiculed mercilessly via social media. An Arabic Twitter hashtag called '#WomensDrivingAffectsOvariesAndPelvises' was quickly created to make fun of Al-Loheidan — underscoring just how widely the call for Saudi women to defy the driving ban has resonated thus far. And while numerous conservative voices have supported Al-Loheidan, many Saudis believe this was an extremely clumsy way of trying to counter the popularity of the October 26 campaign.'"
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Saudi Cleric Pummeled On Twitter For Claiming Driving Damages Women's Ovaries

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  • by Ragnarok89 (1066010) on Monday September 30, 2013 @09:44AM (#44991939)
    And driving is bad as opposed to sitting when: reading? eating? watching TV? listening to the radio? any of the other myriad of activities done while seated? What an idiot.
    • by MetalliQaZ (539913) on Monday September 30, 2013 @09:46AM (#44991955)

      Don't forget the obvious: RIDING in the car, but not driving it, is apparently fine for the ovaries.
      Try and wrap your head around that!

      • by ninlilizi (2759613) on Monday September 30, 2013 @10:32AM (#44992489) Homepage

        And its not dangerous at all for testicles.
        Even though they're sat on, bounced around on. etc.

      • RIDING in the car, but not driving it, is apparently fine for the ovaries.

        It's true! It shortens the menstrual cycle to two weeks, making the woman twice as fertile. Unfortunately, it has the opposite effect on mens' testicles. That's why they have to drive, it makes them more virile, and having more than one man in a car is very gay, punishable by death.

        Now, let's talk about the backseat. This is where babies are made.

      • by Mashiki (184564)

        Don't forget the obvious: RIDING in the car, but not driving it, is apparently fine for the ovaries.

        Only applies if they're in the backseat. If they're up front, that's where all the riding around damage occurs.

      • by jandrese (485) <kensama@vt.edu> on Monday September 30, 2013 @11:05AM (#44992879) Homepage Journal
        It's like rape. A woman's body knows and just shuts down when she's driving a car.

        As crazy as this sounds, it's not too far off from what some ultraconservatives apparently believe.
        • by alexander_686 (957440) on Monday September 30, 2013 @02:43PM (#44995153)

          That’s not quite the “ultra conservatives” position.

          The “Pro Life” (anti-abortionist) fall into 2 camps. The first wants to ban abortions expect for “rape, incest, or medical reasons. The second camp wants to ban all abortions for 2 reasons. If life begins at conception, then you can’t execute the fetus just because the father is a bad person. They view the first camp’s position as a dangerous concession. The second reason that the 2nd camp gives is that there are very few conceptions from forcible rape from a stranger – a.k.a. “real rape” – as opposed to date rape, drugged rape, etc.

          These arguments don’t carry any water with me but let’s try to get the oppositions position correct.

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by K. S. Kyosuke (729550)

        Don't forget the obvious: RIDING in the car, but not driving it, is apparently fine for the ovaries. Try and wrap your head around that!

        That's because reading the Qu'ran damages prefrontal cortexes, even when not driving.

      • by drkim (1559875) on Monday September 30, 2013 @04:33PM (#44995983)

        Don't forget the obvious: RIDING in the car, but not driving it, is apparently fine for the ovaries.
        Try and wrap your head around that!

        I'll just say this;

        Danica Patrick: 0 children.

        Coincidence?

        (Here is a picture of her, obviously lamenting her career choice.
        I urge you to look at this and think about her poor, poor abused reproductive system.)
        http://www.wallpaper4me.com/images/wallpapers/hotroddanicapatrick-690981.jpeg [wallpaper4me.com]

    • by gl4ss (559668) on Monday September 30, 2013 @09:50AM (#44992029) Homepage Journal

      well.. the saudi cleric would probably comment that standing next to the stove is the only safe place for women.

      why he bothered with such a lie I got no idea. maybe he thought he was talking to some 4 year old kids or something... definitely sounds like a guy who's surrounded by extremely "yes" men.

    • by Atzanteol (99067) on Monday September 30, 2013 @10:03AM (#44992151) Homepage

      Sitting is always bad. She should be doing housework and caring for her husband and 20 kids!

    • Ovaries are internal, and protected from shock.
      Testacles are right there on the seat, taking all the shock.
      So by that logic, ergo: Men shouldn't drive, it lowers sperm count and virility... let women do the driving.

      I think that boy has been driving with his head(s) on the axle a bit too long.

    • by Jawnn (445279) on Monday September 30, 2013 @11:32AM (#44993191)

      What an idiot.

      Now, now... At least he's not suggesting that humans herded dinosaurs sometime in the last 6,000 years, and is insisting that this fantasy be taught to all the children Texas public schools.
      Anyone who turns to a cleric, of any religion, for medical/scientific advice deserves everything that happens to him/her.

    • by jd2112 (1535857) on Monday September 30, 2013 @11:34AM (#44993223)
      He's a graduate of the Todd Akin school of making up shit to to support your idealogoly.
  • by LeadSongDog (1120683) on Monday September 30, 2013 @09:45AM (#44991941)
    ..."In other news, a fatwah has been issued against tweeting."
    • by 93 Escort Wagon (326346) on Monday September 30, 2013 @10:25AM (#44992421)

      ..."In other news, a fatwah has been issued against tweeting."

      Yes, because getting "pummeled on Twitter" is really going to have an impact on this guy.

      • Yes, because getting "pummeled on Twitter" is really going to have an impact on this guy.

        Firstly I'm no fan of twitter and don't have an account. Nor do I follow anyone on twitter.

        The whole thing is a massive popularity contest, but then again, so is organised religion. So actually such a figure being made to look a complete idiot in a public forum actually does matter.

  • What a dipshit. At least if you're going to claim those forces can damage the body, make sure to include being in a car entirely, instead of only driving the car. /facepalm
  • by SpaceManFlip (2720507) on Monday September 30, 2013 @09:47AM (#44991971)
    Since like forever, the old men who are afraid of their womens getting loose have used the Korans, Bibles, Talmuds, etc to control their womens.

    Fear and Freedom don't mix well. Let's all be a little more brave and learn to tell all the batshit religious crazies to fuck off. I don't care if they do raise hell and blow stuff up - eventually there won't be enough left of them to matter.

    Free your mind, and your ass will follow.

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by cold fjord (826450)

      Since like forever, the old men who are afraid of their womens getting loose have used the Korans, Bibles, Talmuds, etc to control their womens. Fear and Freedom don't mix well. Let's all be a little more brave and learn to tell all the batshit religious crazies to fuck off. I don't care if they do raise hell and blow stuff up - eventually there won't be enough left of them to matter.

      I seem to recall various atheist countries that were afraid of their people getting loose used Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Kim Jong Il, and others to control their people. One of the pioneers in suicide bombing were the Tamil Tigers, an essentially secular movement. Batshit crazy is crazy no matter the source. If Europeans don't get their birthrate up, eventually there won't be enough of them to matter. Guess who has the higher birth rate? Native European are on the self-chosen path to extinction, and th

      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        by VortexCortex (1117377)

        I seem to recall various atheist countries that were afraid of their people getting loose used Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Kim Jong Il, and others to control their people.

        I seem to recall Marxist Feminism being born as a way to control women, convince them that they were oppressed by men and thus enter the work force, doubling the workers. It did not bring equility, it merely burdened women. It did not bring the choice to the family of which parent would raise the child, but instead normalized the method of human reproduction by having children raised by the state. Radical Feminism was born by adding to Marxist Feminism the idea that oppression was Patriarchal in nature [wikipedia.org];

  • by PPH (736903)
    It sounds like Al-Loheidan suffered cranial trauma when he was carried by his mother who spend hours riding a camel.
  • by MyLongNickName (822545) on Monday September 30, 2013 @09:49AM (#44992019) Journal

    It is true! It is also true that women cannot get pregnant from "legitimate" rape.

    • Re:It is true (Score:5, Insightful)

      by QilessQi (2044624) on Monday September 30, 2013 @09:56AM (#44992083)

      This. The Middle East has no monopoly on ridiculous ideas about female physiology. Some American politicians, pundits, and religious leaders are downright scary in this regard.

  • you know... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by buddyglass (925859) on Monday September 30, 2013 @09:54AM (#44992067)
    As crazy and wrong as this guy is, his claim isn't completely out of left field. One of my physics teachers in high school (who had worked as an engineer at Bell Helicopter) related the story that, apparently, some of the helicopters initially used in the Viet Nam conflict happened to vibrate at the resonant frequency of the human kidney, causing pilots to experience organ damage. They had to add material to the seats to cancel out the vibrations. Here's a page from the Canadian equivalent of the U.S.'s OSHA:

    http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/phys_agents/vibration/vibration_intro.html [ccohs.ca]
  • ...just double down. And then double down again. We see this a lot in politics.

    • I'm just encouraged that it may no longer be a capital offense to publicly disagree with an Imam/Mullah in Wahabbi territory.
      • It never has been. Capital offenses under Sharia (which Wahhabi religiously follow) are:

        - murder (though relatives of the victim can opt for a fine instead)
        - apostasy
        - adultery, for married people
        - homosexuality
        - insulting Muhammad (but not Allah, curiously)
        - sorcery / witchcraft
        - brigandage - in practice, this subsumes most kind of robberies, kidnapping, and hijacking of vehicles
        - theft of property valued more than one dinar (4.374 g of gold), on the fourth conviction

        Saudi laws add terrorism, treason, sedi

  • Of course, if one cared to invoke physiology here, the real victim is the male genitalia, which need cooler temperatures to produce healthy sperm, a condition undermined by any posture that isn't standing with the legs slightly apart while wearing loose clothing. Oh dear!

  • Fundies (Score:4, Funny)

    by Rob the Bold (788862) on Monday September 30, 2013 @10:01AM (#44992135)

    Isn't it about time that this guy and Todd Akin [wikipedia.org] just get a room, already, and make out.

  • by FatLittleMonkey (1341387) on Monday September 30, 2013 @10:06AM (#44992193)

    Hashtags are getting ridiculous.

    "#WomensDrivingAffectsOvariesAndPelvises"

    Were they worried about getting confused with the always popular "#WomensDrivingAffectsOvaries"?

    • Don't worry, soon it will degenerate in something like #YourMomDrivesAnF1

    • I'm trying to encourage nutjobs to use really long tags so they can't annoy with their "thoughts."
      For example: #RealAmericanFoxPatriots WhoFightAgainstAPresidentWhoIsA KenyanSocialistWhoWantsToSetHisLiberal AtheistMuslimArmyAgainstRealAmericanFoxPatriots

      Spaces added to bypass the filter.
  • by RivenAleem (1590553) on Monday September 30, 2013 @10:10AM (#44992253)

    You might be able to say that women who drive a car get damaged ovaries, but you missing the intermediate step where the woman is dragged from the car and beaten.

  • Like between his legs.

    Show him "physiological consequences".

    Fucking religious nutbags.
    (Pun unintentional.)

  • Meanwhile (Score:3, Informative)

    by TheSkepticalOptimist (898384) on Monday September 30, 2013 @10:20AM (#44992383)

    The Pope says stupid shit all the time and is lauded for it.

    Actually I would have to say this current Pope is a little more forward thinking, he is choosing to ignore the issues rather than outright dismissing them based on 2000 year old dogma. Given another 2000 years a Pope might finally say something intelligent and original based on current science and facts.

  • by GodfatherofSoul (174979) on Monday September 30, 2013 @10:33AM (#44992495)

    This is the Kardashian model of what makes news worthy. Any idiot saying or doing anything shocking to most of us becomes a media sensation. Just because it was on Twitter doesn't make it relevant to this audience. I'm hoping this trend of dumping crap here skimmed off TMZ headlines doesn't continue.

  • by twmcneil (942300)
    It's shit like this that makes it hard for me to believe that they could find 15 of their countrymen intelligent enough to learn how to pilot a plane.
  • by LinuxFreakus (613194) on Monday September 30, 2013 @10:40AM (#44992577)
    Until not that long ago women were not supposed to run marathons either... because their uterus might fall out (among other stupid assertions).
  • This story remind me that in Egypt some clerics were mocked on the web after a story about cut tomatoes showing a cross. [christianpost.com]

    I hope their next move will give birth to an hilarious meme :) Let see... in which country do we also have good candidates ?

  • by MiniMike (234881) on Monday September 30, 2013 @10:44AM (#44992633)

    So logically he wouldn't oppose women past child-bearing age from driving? Or has he spouted some other nuttiness to justify keeping them from driving?

  • It appears that ideology and political correctness have taken over the debate, here and elsewhere. This should be a matter of research not emotions. For example it is known that women in heavily male dominated professions, such as math, physics, engineering, programming, hacking,... have more problems conceiving and have more miscarriages. This is due to their hormonal balance which is shifted toward male side. Generally, women who have problems with miscarriages are advised during pregnancy to take it easy

  • It's my mom's Birthday!
    But I'm sure you NSA guys knew that already...

  • by Le Marteau (206396) on Monday September 30, 2013 @11:30AM (#44993175) Journal

    First sentence says "Saudi Cleric" claims something is so. Why would anyone with any sense read any further? What are you guys, masochists? Do you intentionally look for things to irritate you? Surely you were aware than nothing beneficial or insightful can follow in anything beginning with "Saudi Cleric claims..."

    Stop intentionally finding things to piss yourself off. You'll live a healthier, and probably longer, life.

  • by Trailer Trash (60756) on Monday September 30, 2013 @12:18PM (#44993715) Homepage

    Honestly, read about everything that the government says marijuana is going to do to you - then consider that our current, last two, and first two Presidents (at the least) used the substance.

    Our government is just as stupid, only in other areas.

  • Naturally (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Arancaytar (966377) <arancaytar.ilyaran@gmail.com> on Monday September 30, 2013 @01:12PM (#44994271) Homepage

    Over the centuries, science has continually reaffirmed that women's health is severely impacted by such stressful activities as reading, writing, voting, driving, owning property, having a job, leaving the kitchen, or thinking.

The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh

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