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Scientists Make 'Magic State' Breakthrough After 20 Years (livescience.com) 24

An anonymous reader quotes a report from Live Science: In a world first, scientists have demonstrated an enigmatic phenomenon in quantum computing that could pave the way for fault-tolerant machines that are far more powerful than any supercomputer. The process, called "magic state distillation," was first proposed 20 years ago, but its use in logical qubits has eluded scientists ever since. It has long been considered crucial for producing the high-quality resources, known as "magic states," needed to fulfill the full potential of quantum computers. [...] Now, however, scientists with QuEra say they have demonstrated magic state distillation in practice for the first time on logical qubits. They outlined their findings in a new study published July 14 in the journal Nature.

In the study, using the Gemini neutral-atom quantum computer, the scientists distilled five imperfect magic states into a single, cleaner magic state. They performed this separately on a Distance-3 and a Distance-5 logical qubit, demonstrating that it scales with the quality of the logical qubit. "A greater distance means better logical qubits. A Distance-2, for instance, means that you can detect an error but not correct it. Distance-3 means that you can detect and correct a single error. Distance-5 would mean that you can detect and correct up to two errors, and so on, and so on," [explained Yuval Boger, chief commercial officer at QuEra who was not personally involved in the research]. "So the greater the distance, the higher fidelity of the qubit is -- and we liken it to distilling crude oil into a jet fuel."

As a result of the distillation process, the fidelity of the final magic state exceeded that of any input. This proved that fault-tolerant magic state distillation worked in practice, the scientists said. This means that a quantum computer that uses both logical qubits and high-quality magic states to run non-Clifford gates is now possible. "We're seeing sort of a shift from a few years ago," Boger said. "The challenge was: can quantum computers be built at all? Then it was: can errors be detected and corrected? Us and Google and others have shown that, yes, that can be done. Now it's about: can we make these computers truly useful? And to make one computer truly useful, other than making them larger, you want them to be able to run programs that cannot be simulated on classical computers."

Scientists Make 'Magic State' Breakthrough After 20 Years

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  • by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Friday July 18, 2025 @11:51PM (#65530764)

    Unless this gets independently reproduced, I am not believing one word of that claim.

    • Very cool though if confirmed to be true.

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        If confirmed yes, before that hot air. And it may not mean what the story claims it means either, even if confirmed.

    • Re:Yep, suuure... (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Gideon Fubar ( 833343 ) on Saturday July 19, 2025 @01:41AM (#65530850) Journal

      further, if it is confirmed then there's still a potentially decades long process for them to actually be useful... regardless of the rhetoric in the article.

      and they still wont be able to accurately predict the stock market, because some types of quantum states are stochastic and functionally reliant on external inputs not just some rationalisation about states etc etc.

      People these days with hyping new physics... they seem to think that every time we make any technological progress at all they should be able to try to ignore conservation, entropy and SNR, but at the same time they seem to think only the stuff with a press release happens at all.

      • Oh so... what's going on here, if i'm reading it correctly... is they're limited to clifford gates and the stabilization they're talking about might just be combining the real output from an actual qbit computation with a classical version simulated on traditional x86 hardware.

        This is notably less impressive than it could be even if I've got that last bit wrong, because according to the gottesman-knill theorem... anything that can be built using only those gates in a quantum system can be simulated at polyn

        • by gweihir ( 88907 )

          Interesting. But p-time is probably somewhat misleading. In practice, it matters very much what the exponents are. Still, I am there with you, being prematurely impressed by this result is not rational.

      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        People these days with hyping new physics... they seem to think that every time we make any technological progress at all they should be able to try to ignore conservation, entropy and SNR, but at the same time they seem to think only the stuff with a press release happens at all.

        Indeed. People look for magic, but education is bad enough that they do not understand there is very little spaces left where magic could potentially be found.

      • by Rei ( 128717 )

        How did the stock market get into this discussion?

    • by Big Hairy Gorilla ( 9839972 ) on Saturday July 19, 2025 @07:53AM (#65531072)
      Sooo... you don't believe in magic?
      • by gweihir ( 88907 )

        I will accept magic if solidly proven and reproducibly demonstrated. Not before. You know, doing actual Science. (No, Science does _not_ rule out magic. It just places high requirements on the proof of its existence.)

  • Is "Distance" as used here:

    a. A measure of how physically far apart the Qubits were (N nM, N*2 nM, etc.): a specified Distance that drives the results they claim

    or

    b. A characterization of how the experimenters did at a given distance: "We successfully reconstructed the magic state at Distance 5 and Distance 2"

    I can see on some level, these are similar if not the same (same kind of problem as "what does 20% probability of precipitation mean?": depends how you look at the scenario).

    But in a lexical sense, wha

  • ... what? :D
  • by burtosis ( 1124179 ) on Saturday July 19, 2025 @09:00AM (#65531138)
    So it looks to me the same as any other approach, combine low fidelity qubits into a single high fidelity qubit. With enough crappy cheap lower maintenance qubits into an actual deterministic one able to reliably solve problems correctly. It was originally conceived of about 5 minutes after the first low fidelity qubit was envisioned, a concept now decades old and soon to be centuries old. Someday, in the next 500 years, I assume quantum computers will vastly surpass classical for some limited classes of algorithms, but from an engineering standpoint we are still in the 40’s to having a working digital personal computer.
    • we are still in the 40’s to having a working digital personal computer.

      I think you are being optimistic here.

  • Help me here. I'm struggling. And I passed quantum mechanics back in the day. This whole thing reads like nonsense to me. It's a lot like Jabberwocky. Slithy toves, anyone? Maybe one day, when it actually works in a real world sense, someone will see a way to explain it all in a way that's understandable. But for now, it's just a weird word salad that almost sounds like stuff I know about.
    • It's not supposed to make sense, that's how you get more funding.

      A befuddled investor is still an investor, but one that sees clearly that you aren't getting anywhere in their lifetime may no longer be an investor.
  • "Us and Google" (Score:4, Insightful)

    by RoccamOccam ( 953524 ) on Saturday July 19, 2025 @10:09AM (#65531232)
    I find it interesting that noun combinations cause so much pronoun confusion. No one would say "Us have shown...", but not blink at "Us and Google ... have shown ...." I see it happening more and more.
    • Those of us actually taught proper grammar even in grade school do blink, but what's the point when the new generations are just lucky to understand complete sentences that don't include an eggplant emoji.

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