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Are Standing Desks Actually Bad For Your Health? 133

A new study counters the widely held belief that standing desks are good for your health, discovering that it does not reduce the risk of diseases such as stroke and heart failure. In fact, it "found that being on your feet for more than two hours a day may increase the risk of developing problems such as deep vein thrombosis and varicose veins," reports The Guardian. The findings have been published in the International Journal of Epidemiology. From the report: To establish if standing provided any health benefits, the researchers studied data from 83,013 adults who are part of the UK Biobank health records database. These people did not have heart disease at the start of the study and wore devices on their wrists to track movement. The team found that for every extra 30 minutes spent standing beyond two hours, the risk of circulatory disease increased by 11%. Standing was not found to reduce the risk of heart conditions such as stroke, heart failure and coronary heart disease, the researchers said. "The key takeaway is that standing for too long will not offset an otherwise sedentary lifestyle and could be risky for some people in terms of circulatory health," said Dr Matthew Ahmadi, of the University of Sydney's faculty of medicine and health. "We found that standing more does not improve cardiovascular health over the long-term and increases the risk of circulatory issues."

Are Standing Desks Actually Bad For Your Health?

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  • by SeaFox ( 739806 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @09:32PM (#64870915)

    In fact, it "found that being on your feet for more than two hours a day may increase the risk of developing problems such as deep vein thrombosis and varicose veins," reports The Guardian.

    So, when do we see the class-action lawsuits for anyone working as a checkout clerk? There's no real reason those people need to be standing instead of sitting. Workers in certain countries having stools at their station they are seated at instead proves that.

    • by ArchieBunker ( 132337 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @09:47PM (#64870939)

      Aldi seems to be the only store that allows cashiers to sit, at least in the USA. The rule is probably based on some fallacy of appearing lazy because they're seated.

    • In fact, it "found that being on your feet for more than two hours a day may increase the risk of developing problems such as deep vein thrombosis and varicose veins," reports The Guardian.

      So, when do we see the class-action lawsuits for anyone working as a checkout clerk? There's no real reason those people need to be standing instead of sitting. Workers in certain countries having stools at their station they are seated at instead proves that.

      At most stores, checkout clerks aren't checking out all the time. Either they take shifts of an hour or two at the register and then do other tasks, or in smaller stores, they're at the register when needed and doing tasks like tidying up when no one is at the counter. The latter is especially prevalent at places like Walgreens.

      • by kmoser ( 1469707 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @11:58PM (#64871087)
        What does the length of time in front of a register have to do with whether they sit or stand when they're in front of it?
        • What does the length of time in front of a register have to do with whether they sit or stand

          I use a standing desk. The first hour is fine.

          Then, standing gets less comfortable, so I either go for a walk or sit down for the next hour.

      • Where are you getting your info from? I work for a small chain of grocery stores and our full time checkers work 8 hour shifts checking all day. They of course get breaks every two hours but they're definitely checking their whole shift, that's their job after all. We do have some people who will swap up to the registers when it's busy but probably 95% of the time it's all people whose job description is "checker" and that's what they do for their shift.

        Pretty sure that's how the whole industry is in the US

    • Here in Egypt, every cashier constantly sits. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one stand at all.

      In the Carrefour’s, the chairs are on an elevated platform so they appear at your eye level.

      In the cheaper stores, they’re jsut there a meter or so below you.

      Never makes a difference. I’m glad they can sit.

      In Dubai, they stand about 90% of the time. Only Carrefour has chairs, from what I can see. The same elevated-height ones you find in Egypt.

    • In the UK all checkout staff seem to sit - or at least have the option to sit if they wish. Some prefer to stand, some of the time at least.

    • You know what the interesting thing is ? My mother was a checker when I was a kid 50 years ago. She sat down in a chair provided. Suddenly that vanished. I wonder why?
  • Makes sense (Score:5, Interesting)

    by viperidaenz ( 2515578 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @09:37PM (#64870925)

    Sitting still for long periods of time is bad for your circulatory system.
    Turns out, same applies to standing still for long periods of time.

    • Re:Makes sense (Score:5, Informative)

      by jbengt ( 874751 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @09:43PM (#64870933)
      Most standing desks allow you to change from standing to sitting and back. When I was using an actual drafting table with a stool I was shifting from standing to sitting naturally all day long. Definitely better for my health than sitting in front of a computer doing CADD. (especially with a stool that had a padded seat and arm rests)
      • by kmoser ( 1469707 )
        Queue the studies that show switching between standing and sitting is bad for your joints, and you're better off either standing or sitting.
      • Most standing desks allow you to change from standing to sitting and back.

        I bought an adjustable-height desk on Amazon years ago, and I love it.

        I switch about once an hour.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        Moving seems to be the key. Staying still, sitting or standing, for 8 hours a day isn't good for you.

      • Exactly!

        My standing desk* takes 1–2 seconds to shift between different heights, so it's very easy to switch between standing and sitting. I've been standing for 1½–2 hours each day (not always consecutively) — which by an amazing coincidence seems about the optimum according to that survey.

        There are other benefits, though. I first got it after hurting my back, and found that standing really helps with that. (Disclaimer: back problems vary, this is not medical advice, etc.) And s

      • Wait... there are padded stools with armrests but no back support? That's such an odd and specific mix of comfortable and uncomfortable (I'm assuming if there was a backrest it wouldn't be called a stool but maybe I'm wrong).

        • by jbengt ( 874751 )
          Didn't even think about backs, almost all of the stools had them, and all of those with padded seats or arm rests had them. Anyway, leaning over a drafting table did not leave much use for a back.
    • I definitely use the up and down buttons to change positions. We need another study!

    • Pretty much!
      I worked 10 years in retail, and if I was stocking, I could work a 10-12 hour shift with no problems, because I was constantly moving. (30k+ steps a day). But if I got stuck running a register, I my body would be in agony in a few hours, even with the ‘anti-fatigue mats’. My back, legs, and feet would be screaming and no amount of fidgeting in place would relieve it. Actually moving around is key.
  • by erice ( 13380 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @09:44PM (#64870935) Homepage

    Actually standing all day is not a good thing. Just sitting all day is in a preset position is not a good thing. But being able to switch back and forth with whatever height works for you? That's gold.

  • Sit / Stand Desks (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Known Nutter ( 988758 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @09:47PM (#64870941)
    These are called sit/stand desks where I'm at and most people do both throughout the day. Because, without a study, they are able to understand that sitting on their ass all day can't be good, and standing in the same spot for extended periods of time is also no bueno if for no other reason than it starts to get uncomfortable.

    Who are these studies for?
    • Lots of people, thinking about it.
      People who do desk work for long periods might want the benefits and detriments quantified.
      The makers of standing desks would like studies that say they're good.
      Health Insurance companies would like to know for possibly offering discounts if they save medical expenses.
      Businesses the same for reducing worker sick leave.
      Governments that provide universal Healthcare, or even just medical for their own employees.

    • I have a sit/stand desk and home and work. The one at work is a spring loaded gizmo that sits on top of a normal desk that I can raise and lower. The one at home is has a motorized table top.

      They are not a not a panacea, but they both have relieved the amount of back pain I previous experienced from sitting long periods of time.

      I have no idea if there are other health benefits. I did read the book Get Up!: Why Your Chair Is Killing You and What You Can Do About It by James A. Levine that claimed it did

    • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

      "Who are these studies for?"

      It's called science. It turns out that trusting some random nutter saying "OMG, it's obvious..." isn't all that reliable.

  • ...the first time I looked at them.
    Standing in one place for hours is painful.
    Walking around is fine

  • I have a standing desk, but I never stand for very long. It's just nice to take a break from sitting every now and then.

  • Standing still does not provide any cardiovascular exercise versus sitting. All it does is make your feet hurt and increase the effort your body has to make to return venous blood to the heart. It is probably different, if you are constantly moving about, but just standing at a computer workstation or in front of a machine seems unnecessary.
  • Is it just me? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ukoda ( 537183 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @10:21PM (#64870979) Homepage
    Is it just me who finds it hard to concentrate when standing? I'm pretty sure there is a part of may brain that is complaining when I try write code or similar if I'm standing and it is silently nagging me to sit down first. Like when a coworker asks for help and if I can't see the solution right away I will pull up a chair and sit down so I can better think about the problem.

    When I saw standing desks that lazy part of me said "no way". The self improvement part of me said "maybe we should give it a fair go". In the end I knew I don't concentrate well standing, so I gave that idea a miss. Now to hear they don't help I don't fell so guilty about that choice.
    • Is it just me who finds it hard to concentrate when standing?

      No, I've definitely noticed the same thing - I suck at writing code when I'm standing. So, now, I try to coordinate my standing time with tasks that aren't as mentally taxing, like getting caught up on email or generating documentation.

    • you know I'd never really though about it until you mentioned, but now you did, yes 100% that's exactly what I do. Pull up a chair...

    • Well, I'm one of those people that likes to walk around when thinking about a problem, and I'm also pretty sure I'm not alone. I have some level of ADHD traits (though no diagnosis) and I find it easier to concentrate with a standing desk, as it allows my body to move around a little. It also allows these micro-breaks of walking around the room much more easily. I'm not sure how well this would work in a shared office, though, I guess it could get quite annoying to some people.

      A standing desk makes the w

    • by bgarcia ( 33222 )

      Is it just me who finds it hard to concentrate when standing?

      I started using a "walking workstation" at work (basically, a desk with a treadmill) for an hour a day, because they have them available here and it seemed like an easy way to get a little exercise. I found it very difficult to concentrate on anything at first. But as with many things, I got used to it and now it's pretty much just as easy for me to concentrate on stuff on the walking workstation as it is sitting at my desk.

    • by gtall ( 79522 )

      I do a lot of mathematics...definitely cannot do it standing although I can think through problems abstractly when walking the stairs for 30 minutes in the morning....cannot do detailed calculations but I tend to get ideas that way I do not get while sitting.

      • by ukoda ( 537183 )
        Similar to another comment and also what I have noticed. Standing and walking are different. I can also think over ideas while wondering around. Also good for getting over being sleepy after lunch and a chance to see what coworkers are working on in other areas.
    • Is it just me who finds it hard to concentrate when standing?

      Yes and no. If you gave it a few weeks of earnest effort?...not sure what to say, I'm sure it's not "just" you, but I think most can adapt. It took me awhile, but I can work just as well in either position Is it "better"...eh...not really, IMHO. It's MUCH better for collaboration. Your boss can step in your cube and you can show him something quickly and be done faster...more people can gather without grabbing chairs and it's easier to get closer to see the screen...and since they're standing, they tend

  • There is no way that primitive humans were on their butts or asleep 22 hours a day. This is one of many stories the last few years that focus on new things that can give you a bloodclot or heart attack.
  • by plate_o_shrimp ( 948271 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @10:51PM (#64871001)

    So we shouldn't sit, and we shouldn't stand. Perhaps there is a lying desk?

    • So we shouldn't sit, and we shouldn't stand. Perhaps there is a lying desk?

      Just find a lake and have a floating desk.

    • by rossdee ( 243626 )

      "Perhaps there is a lying desk?"

      Its called a pulpit.

    • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

      If you have to be at a desk, putting your feet up on it is probably the healthiest thing you can do, cardiovascularly anyway.

      • Terrible for your lower back though...

        • by ceoyoyo ( 59147 )

          Depends what position that part of you is in.

          Feet up on your desk and chair back reclined to prone might be bad for your boss' blood pressure though.

    • by mjwx ( 966435 )

      So we shouldn't sit, and we shouldn't stand. Perhaps there is a lying desk?

      The four metres from my bed to my desk is the only commute I have.

  • by az-saguaro ( 1231754 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @10:54PM (#64871007)

    Here is some background info on the subject for those interested.

    Once again, and "as always" lately, the study being reported is valid and meaningful (about a relatively minor issue), but the reporting is sensationalistic.

    Personally, I "can't stand" standing desks. My son won't do any desk work without standing at one. It's personal preferences, so do what makes you happy and productive. The "health risks" are generally minor, and they are 100% entirely preventable with the simple measure of wearing compression stockings.

    But, by way of technical background, here is the medical stuff:

    The heart pumps blood through arteries to peripheral tissues, gas and fluids exchange in the capillaries, and spent blood returns through the veins, to the chest where it is "refurbished" then recirculated. The biomechanics and the potential diseases and disabilities that can occur are night and day different between arteries and veins. When the article says "circulatory disease" and "circulatory health", it is lumping it all together in a way that may play to laymen reporting, but is not technically meaningful.

    When the arteries get diseased, such as the main degenerative disease of atherosclerosis ("hardening of the arteries"), life-sustaining arterial circulation is diminished, which can lead to (1) exercise induced angina (muscular pain and weakness when blood supply is insufficient for metabolic demands), and infarcts (dead !) if there is sudden complete occlusion due to blood clots forming on the atheromas, such as stroke and heart attack. Non-degenerative diseases of blood hypercoagulability and of autoimmune vasculitis cause similar risks for people in any age group. When these same degenerative or pathological processes affect the root of the circulation, the heart, the risks and misery are compounded. Also, the heart and major arteries operate under high pressure (the range between systolic and diastolic, integrated as the "map", mean arterial pressure) which if too high leads to pressure and shear stresses in the arteries which is a major contribution to the pathogenesis of these diseases (along with other risk factors such as smoking, diabetes, hyperlipidemias). These serious life-and-limb threatening disorders are hallmarks of arterial disease, and this is what is implied when talking about "cardiovascular disease".

    In contrast, the veins are not subject to these diseases. They operate at low pressures. Vascular pressures must always be judged relative to ambient atmospheric pressure. A systolic pressure 120 torr in the aorta means 120 mm Hg over atmospheric. In the complementary vein, the vena cava, pressures are 5 torr. This is reflected in the mural thickness, thick walled arteries versus thin walled veins. According to LaPlace's Law, mural tension, cylinder radius, and luminal pressure are related by T = Pr, so venous pressures being lower have lower mural tension. Vascular thickness is controlled by tensile stresses on the tissues, so arteries adapt by getting thicker, but arteries and veins and all vessels in between have the same mural stress by adjusting the numbers of layers of cells. But with low pressures, mural stresses that lead to tissue injury, inflammation, and atherosclerosis are absent in the veins.

    The veins have a different issue. We, humans, stand upright. Blood that has circulated to the lower extremities must then move uphill against gravity to return to the heart. Negative pressures in the right atrium, "suction" during diastole, are insufficient to counteract the hydrostatic pressure of the 1-2 meter column of blood in the veins while we are standing. The effect is that blood in the feet and legs will start to accumulate and engorge the veins and increase pressure - unless there is an accessory mechanism to keep venous blood moving uphill against gravity back to the heart. That happens in two ways. First are the venous valves. In the veins, there are two-leaf "bicuspid" valves every few centimeters that direct flow back to the heart, preventing reflux or backwash. Second is the muscular pump of the legs. Normal walking causes contraction of the leg muscles, and because the leg veins pass through groups of muscles, this action squeezes the veins, expelling blood from them which, because of the valves, goes in one direction only, back to the heart. Nature is brilliant. But, this mechanism can go wrong in various ways, and that is how veins get disordered.

    "Venous stasis" refers to conditions of altered, static, stagnant, reversed, incompetent flow in the veins, either because the valves are destroyed (venous incompetence) or there has been enough damage to veins to diminish their aggregate cross sectional area and outflow thereby raising venous pressures (venous insufficiency). Regardless the various causes that lead to this, the common pathway is an interplay of higher pressures than veins are engineered to withstand, micro sometimes macro blood clots, and inflammation, all of which amplify and trigger each other, resulting in scarring, stiffness, and flow restrictions which beget more clots,inflammation, and pathological alterations. High venous pressures also cause edema as hydrostatic pressures cause fluid to leak through the vessels into the tissues. At minimum, this can cause unsightly or achy varicose vein or persistent swelling that interferes with shoes and clothing. But for some people, it eventuates in a state of chronic venous hypertension, high pressure in the veins, which causes not just persistent severe edema but also a state of chronic panniculitis (inflammation of the soft tissues) including problematic chronic skin ulcers. Blood stasis causes blood to clot, and recurring micro-thrombosis aggravates the inflammation. In this state of "chronic venous disease", large veins are already obliterated, so there it is rare to have large clots that might embolize, so patients are miserable but safe from sudden death. On the other hand, for those who do not have chronic venous disease, but who have conditions of prolonged stasis, such as sitting too long at a desk or on an airplane, they can get vein clots from low flow (from the prolonged leg-dependent posture without the muscular punmps being active), clots which can dislodee, flow back to the heart, and from there to the lungs, causing sudden circulatory arrest and death.

    Venous disease and arterial diseases are profoundly different. Arterial diseases cause infarcts, meaning blindness, kidney failure, amputations, etc., or outright death. Acute venous thrombosis can also cause death from embolization, but it is an acute biomechnical condition, not a disease. Chronic venous diseases never cause death, but they can cause enough misery in your life to make you wish you were dead. Either way, venous problems relate to stasis - venous stasis and postural stasis (non-moving subject with legs down) leading to venous clots, edema, and the secondary events that eventuate in the pathology just described.

    Soldiers standing at attention for prolonged periods famously can pass out from impaired venous return as blood accumulates in the legs due to lack of the muscular pump. But, they rarely get clots, and that per se does not cause chronic venous disease. People sitting cramped in a car or airplane with knees bent (crimping the popliteal vein and causing venous outflow obstruction) can get clots, as is commonly publicized in the media. These are real events even though not common. But, people standing at a desk have a different situation. They are not constrained by protocol (soldiers) or space (air passengers), so they move and wiggle and fidget, and the muscles work, and the risks are minimized.

    The study at hand reveals that if subjects remain standing "too long", over two hours, then the stasis risks increase, including acute dvt (deep venous thrombosis) and eventual varicose veins. This is both surprising and not surprising. That prolonged standing might cause some edema and risk of varicose veins is basic knowledge. But, the paper concluded an 11% increase in risk for every half hour beyind two hours, including venous thrombosis. This is not surprising in that it is basic pathophysiology of venous diseases, but the numbers are higher than most anyone would have guessed - that is the surprising part.

    So, this is interesting, relevant, even important. Standing more than two hours has a risk. But, we already know this. From soldiers. From surgeons and nurses who stand at operating tables for many hours with minimum movement. Same for certain factory and line workers. Now, we can add standing desks to the list of at-risk scenarios. But, keep in mind, that this is a venous problem, not arterial disease, with entirely different implications, despite how the lay reporting conflates the issues.

    And, this problem is entirely preventable by - (1) take periodic breaks to walk around, (2) take periodic breaks to get off you feet and elevate your legs (which allows accumulated blood to flow back to the heart and reduce any incipient edema), (3) wear compression stockings which compress the veins and thereby counteract venous engorgement, 100% totally and reliably preventing any of these problems. Compression stockings are readily available at any general store, retailer, pharmacy, and there is a whole industry devoted to custom fitting them. Use them, periodically walk around, and your standing desk is safe.

    • by evanh ( 627108 )

      Sounds like a health and safety concern of the workplace, primarily. One would hope HR departments are well versed and provide the listed remedies for their employees.

      • by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

        What, you want them to grab a whip and chase standing workers around to get the blood moving?

    • by ledow ( 319597 )

      Best comment here.

    • by necro81 ( 917438 )

      The "health risks" are generally minor, and they are 100% entirely preventable with the simple measure of wearing compression stockings.

      Or just step away from the desk and walk around every once in a while, which has been shown to reduce fatigue and improve productivity [npr.org].

    • I've always thought the one-way valves in you leg veins could be used for cpr, you could extend and contract their legs to pump blood through their body.
  • by Rick Schumann ( 4662797 ) on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @11:32PM (#64871063) Journal
    I dunno about anyone else around here, but this 'standing desk' stuff never made any sense to me whatsoever, and in fact I quit a job I had in part because they expected me to be on my feet all the time, which was murder on my back and joints, especially knees. If we weren't evolved to sit, then we wouldn't be able to sit, that's my hypothesis. By all means, do get up and move around as many times a day at work as you feel is necessary, though.
    • by ledow ( 319597 )

      I think it's disingenuous to believe that "caveman" humans ever stood up for significant amounts of time.

      Walking? Absolutely. Running? In short bursts, yes. But standing? No.

      Just look at any tribe, primitive culture, cultural reference, camping trip, or historical dwelling.

      When they are prepping food, they're sitting on the ground.
      When they're stoking fires, they're sitting on the ground. When they're making pottery, they're sitting on the ground. When they're doing anything at all, they're sitting o

      • Yeah, assuming my right knee doesn't start complaining at me, I can walk for hours, but standing for hours is just torturous.
    • If we weren't evolved to sit, then we wouldn't be able to sit, that's my hypothesis.

      Your hypothesis is silly since we were evolved to be hunter/gathers and our rate of development to a sit-down society is orders of magnitude faster than any evolutionary process could adapt to.

      We were not evolved to sit all day. In fact we were not evolved to stand all day either. Your joint pain isn't a reflection of evolution of mankind, it's a reflection of your personal individual health. There are billions of people out there literally on their feet all day without joint pain.

      By the way I'm with you. I

      • Please review my comment more carefully, since I did NOT say 'sit ALL DAY', I just said 'sit'.
        Oh and by the way our own development of technology is not the same thing as our physiological evolution; we've short-circuited much of that ourselves.
    • by mjwx ( 966435 )

      I dunno about anyone else around here, but this 'standing desk' stuff never made any sense to me whatsoever, and in fact I quit a job I had in part because they expected me to be on my feet all the time, which was murder on my back and joints, especially knees. If we weren't evolved to sit, then we wouldn't be able to sit, that's my hypothesis. By all means, do get up and move around as many times a day at work as you feel is necessary, though.

      I doubt they so-called health benefits are there... but the thing that has really turned me off a standing desk is everyone I've met who has one is an absolutely massive wanker and I don't want to be like that.

      A vegan, a Mac user and someone who uses a standing desk walk into a bar... Which one speaks first.

      • A vegan, a Mac user and someone who uses a standing desk walk into a bar... Which one speaks first.

        The bartender

    • Standing desks never made sense to me either. Since standing all day is a problem, and sitting all day is a problem, it seems the best solution is to sit to do your work and then go walk a mile every couple hours.

  • by LordHighExecutioner ( 4245243 ) on Thursday October 17, 2024 @01:47AM (#64871217)
    ...but do not stand up for more than two hours, as recommended in the paper.
  • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Thursday October 17, 2024 @04:48AM (#64871347)

    This has been known for a long time. Google sucks now so I can't find the article, but an interview with one of the people who did the landmark study that found sitting all day was bad for you compared to people who were not seated all day basically said the wrong message was taken from the study. He even pointed out that the people in the study who were standing had more active roles in their organisation and moved around more.

    It was never about sitting / standing. It was about sedentary vs non-sedentary. The author of the original study heavily criticised taking immobile sitting people and turning them into immobile standing people. He even suggested if you're in a position that limits you to the option of sitting or standing that you should switch it up every hour or so.

    MOVE PEOPLE MOVE. That was the whole point of not sitting.

  • by Eunomion ( 8640039 ) on Thursday October 17, 2024 @05:07AM (#64871369)
    Get the benefit of a position, but shift to another before it becomes a problem. Sitting, standing, pacing, reclining, lying down. I like a standing desk I can pace away from as I'm thinking and making something, but a normal desk if I'm diving into something. A recliner if I'm watching TV or movies, and either recliner or bed if I'm reading fiction.
  • I'm curious if standing in general is the problem, or standing mostly still? I find when I'm seated, I don't move a whole lot, but when I'm standing I'm taking small steps, swaying to the music and just generally moving a lot more than when I'm sitting.

  • So standing is bad for you. And does everyone remember the Slashdot stories saying that sitting kills you?

    Next "they'll" be telling us that we all need to be on treadmills. Until they decide that something else is the healthy way to spend your time.

    • Coffee is bad for you too... no! Wait!... It's good for you again. I'm so glad it's good for you again, because... yeah.
      Treadmills? No no.. they'll kill you if you fall off. Peloton bikes is the answer... Obviously... oh... wait... bad for the testicles...

      Excuse me while I brew another pot of coffee :-)
      • Coffee is bad for you too... no! Wait!... It's good for you again. I'm so glad it's good for you again, because... yeah. Treadmills? No no.. they'll kill you if you fall off. Peloton bikes is the answer... Obviously... oh... wait... bad for the testicles... Excuse me while I brew another pot of coffee :-)

        Yup - everything is going to kill us, so we should at least pick something fun!

  • Walking desks! Problem solved! I will be taking no questions at this time.
  • Heart disease is caused by diet, not posture. And standing in one spot isn't exactly exercise.

    Having said that I do use a standing desk for 3-4 hours a day and it seems to help with neck and shoulder and arm strain if nothing else.

  • meetings from dragging on forever bc the comfort level goes to near zero after about 15 mins. Juggling papers notebooks and phones adds to the discomfort. Informal estimate on my part says meeting time were cut by 2/3.
    • by fikx ( 704101 )
      Although juggling in meetings seems like it would help with being active, eventually some will have other issues from the repetative movement.

      I also assume there's ramp up time before that rule can be followed consistently in meetings. But I have to admit the meeting would look more fun.
      But I'm not letting someone borrow MY phone to juggle.
  • They have known that for 100,000 years by now.

  • I don't find it hard to believe that standing always at your desk might not be good for you. Standing sometimes, however, is unlikely to be a problem. I use a Sit/Stand desk at work and while I usually use it sitting, I occasionally use it standing. I find standing is better when I am using the whiteboard, so I can move back and forth without switching from standing to sitting and vice versa.

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