Ditch Brightly Colored Plastic, Anti-Waste Researchers Tell Firms 82
Retailers are being urged to stop making everyday products such as drinks bottles, outdoor furniture and toys out of brightly coloured plastic after researchers found it degrades into microplastics faster than plainer colours. From a report: Red, blue and green plastic became "very brittle and fragmented," while black, white and silver samples were "largely unaffected" over a three-year period, according to the findings of the University of Leicester-led project. The scale of environmental pollution caused by plastic waste means that microplastics, or tiny plastic particles, are everywhere. Indeed, they were recently found in human testicles, with scientists suggesting a possible link to declining sperm counts in men.
In this case, scientists from the UK and the University of Cape Town in South Africa used complementary studies to show that plastics of the same composition degrade at different rates depending on the colour. The UK researchers put bottle lids of various colours on the roof of a university building to be exposed to the sun and the elements for three years. The South African study used plastic items found on a remote beach. "It's amazing that samples left to weather on a rooftop in Leicester and those collected on a windswept beach at the southern tip of the African continent show similar results," said Dr Sarah Key, who led the project. "What the experiments showed is that even in a relatively cool and cloudy environment for only three years, huge differences can be seen in the formation of microplastics." This field study, published in the journal Environmental Pollution, is the first such proof of this effect. It suggests that retailers and manufacturers should give more consideration to the colour of short-lived plastics.
In this case, scientists from the UK and the University of Cape Town in South Africa used complementary studies to show that plastics of the same composition degrade at different rates depending on the colour. The UK researchers put bottle lids of various colours on the roof of a university building to be exposed to the sun and the elements for three years. The South African study used plastic items found on a remote beach. "It's amazing that samples left to weather on a rooftop in Leicester and those collected on a windswept beach at the southern tip of the African continent show similar results," said Dr Sarah Key, who led the project. "What the experiments showed is that even in a relatively cool and cloudy environment for only three years, huge differences can be seen in the formation of microplastics." This field study, published in the journal Environmental Pollution, is the first such proof of this effect. It suggests that retailers and manufacturers should give more consideration to the colour of short-lived plastics.
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People need some colour in their life. Haven't we seen enough sepia-palette kitchens and living rooms already?
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Then make the permanent stuff brightly colored, and the disposable stuff drab, so that people tend to prefer the more permanent stuff.
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Great idea, seriously. Although it doesn't address the issue of malcontents bitching about everything, but I'm will to ignore them.
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That's a strange way of saying you're annoyed that some other people actually care about making the world a better place and are just getting in the way of your callous indifference.
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Yes. Sorry I didn't communicate it clearly, I was in a snarky mood.
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No (Score:3)
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When Jesus points at the moon, do you fixate on his finger?
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Just going by the above post they are completely right. Capitalism is in fact not good at the singular point they mention.
The rsilvergun formula for every post... it's just sad at this point.
1. Capitalism bad
2. Communism good
3. Advertise fark
It's funny because he does or says none of those things in the post you're responding to.
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Or for anything disposable where it doesn't matter what is the underlying color of the plastic, they could just use a brightly-colored wrap on a dull or clear container. Which is what many drink bottlers do.
That does not even kick the can down the road. (Score:2)
Unless the wrap is made of compostable paper you're just making the brightly colored label able to break down faster.
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So? By volume it's a lot less plastic. Bottlers do it cuz it's cheaper to order one style of clear bottle and then put a wrap on it.
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Any use of plastic when not absolutely required is abhorrent to me.
I carry an all metal water bottle with an actual cork stopper, never purchase any beverage while out that comes in plastic or plasticized paper. and have cloth netting bags I use when shopping for produce.
It just takes will and effort.
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I'm not sure I agree with that.
I think that if the price is high, many consumers would try to justify the purchase of the item by it being suitable for more situations and without it feeling like it belongs to a fad. If it is expensive then the design should preferably be "timeless", and that means muted colours.
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I mean, you can still print in bright colors on paper/cardboard/glass/metal/wood/etc, the issue is just with brightly colored plastics.
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"People" prefer to buy cheap, not colorful or drab. Companies prefer to use cheap shit to "keep costs down". And you can be sure that it is the cheap stuff that turned to shit, and not the colored. So, your suggestion won't work, because simple economics.
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"And you can be sure that it is the cheap stuff that turned to shit, and not the colored.
You do realize the topic of discussion is a https://www.sciencedirect.com/... [sciencedirect.com] that shows the colored stuff turning to shit?
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Yes, I do realize the topic of discussion is something that clearly states in 2. Methods and Protocols, 2.1 that it is presumed that the composition of plastic is "similar".
I will leave to you as a homework to check the meaning of "presumed" and "similar" and report back on what your conclusions as to the adequacy of the experiment are.
I stopped reading this piece of crap about there.
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Then we have scare articles about how Plastic lasts more than a lifetime, and that's a problem [pbs.org].
Anyway, they probably could have saved themselves the study and asked people in the industry; that different colorants result in plastics being more or less resistant to UV is well-known (which is why nearly all outdoor-rated cable is black, for instance).
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As a fun thing, I was shopping recently for chicken runs. Most of them have you attach the chicken wire/hardware cloth using zip ties. For 90% of them, it was obviously that they were including non-UV protected indoor type zip ties, because they were that clear color in the pictures. With the attendant complaints that the ties were breaking after a few months, letting animals get into to kill the chickens and such.
I ended up spending an extra $20 and got a kit that came with hardware cloth for the bottom
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iT IS for the environment like now having to protect the paper straws by putting them in individual plastic packageing.
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Yes, and he should use lead based paint wherever possible.
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Drink bottlers already do this.
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Sepia? Have you been living under a rock? Grey and black are the trend now. Nice matte black countertops with a grey backsplash. and black cupboards. It's about as inviting as a crypt.
Why go slowly? (Score:2)
Fast or slow, as long as input stays the same the steady state will stay the same. Might as well have it decompose as fast as possible, so that when we stop dumping long lived poison into the environment it clears up as fast as possible too.
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The final breakdown of those microplastics require 100-1000 years depending on the size and specific composition.
If we go with 500 years then people from 20 generations down the timestream from us could start to enjoy a world without microplastics if we stopped manufacturing disposable plastics right now.
That won't happen. Too many people are more interested in the personal convenience and luxury within their own lifetimes than are interested in the long term viability of the species.
I guess that's what we
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They should research to find some enzyme that causes all these plastics that are hard to recycle to have them naturally degrade in a 5-10 year time-frame. What ever the shelf life is, it should naturally expire at approximately the same rate. So, if a soda bottle can't be sold after 3 years, make it expire at 4.
This is a GREAT opportunity!!! (Score:1)
Make all the plastics in the boring colours that are allegedly saf(er). Now EVERYBODY can wear AR glasses, backed by AI, so we see the materials in their intended colours. Charge for a DLC so you can change the colour palette! Ancillary information may be viewed. Hook into your EV cars! And, of course with the birth of this new technology, the inevitable afterbirth will appear: Advertising. ATSC 3 folks can have their evil end accomplished. OK, Zuckerberg et al, belly up to the bar!
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Charge for a DLC so you can change the colour palette!
Pantone just jizzed their pants.
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Sounds like vendor apathy... (Score:2)
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Yeah, this is a double bonus for the plastic toy manufacturers. Not only do they save a few cents on manufacturing by not using the more expensive UV resistant plastic, but the lower product quality insures that the original owner won't be able to donate or resell the item a few years down the road. Hurrah for planned obsolescence?
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Until we see provable, testable, reproducible scientific proof that plastic spontaneously disintegrates, I'm calling bullshit.
What does that even mean? Where did it say anything about spontaneous disintegration?
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What do you mean by "spontaneously disintegrates"? If you're actually unaware that plastic breaks down due to a variety of environmental factors such as sunlight, biological and chemical processes, age and more, and proof of this exists in abundance, you're a fucking idiot.
One paper on one facet of plastic degradation from among an overwhelming number:
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acssuschemeng.9b06635 [acs.org]
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If you're actually unaware that plastic breaks down due to a variety of environmental factors such as sunlight, biological and chemical processes, age and more,
Look up the difference between "disintegrate" and "decompose."
We're being lectured on plastics that disintegrate and remain plastics in the environment. That is why they are called microplastics.
If they are simply decomposing, like literally everything else that is not a pure element does, then they are being broken down into different compounds that are NOT plastic, which means everything we're being told is a goddamn lie.
Can't have it both ways. Oh, and your off-the-rack rectangle-head Reddit material is
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Until we see provable, testable, reproducible scientific proof that plastic spontaneously disintegrates, I'm calling bullshit.
Spoken like someone who's never had a car with plastics underhood. Turns brittle after a number of years, so when one tries to disassemble or disconnect, the thing just crumbles. Or worse, fails in service.
On the shit list, underhood, made of plastic: Intake manifolds, radiator tanks (the ones on the radiator itself, not the 'expansion tank' or 'overflow tank'), the pipe from the airbox to the turbo or throttle body, etc etc etc. I've had several different makes and all their plastics are bad, but BMW
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Can I corroborate this with my own experience having to replace a plastic radiator hose overflow connector (with a third-party metal one!) in an 11-year-old Toyota?
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Was it a Tacoma by chance because I also had to do that on a Toyota. Was yours a pipe that runs under the intake manifold?
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MAGAtard!! (Score:1)
MAGAtard! (Score:1)
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Spoken like someone who's never had a car with plastics underhood.
I have a plastic student-model saxophone mouthpiece I bought in 1982. Still in one piece. No leaks. Plays fine. No cracks. No damage.
Should have become brittle and disintegrated by now, right?
Notice how none of these replies have a shred of science in them? Nothing but anecdotes and wiseass. Does that tell you anything?
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Does your mouth reach 200*F?
No?
Hmm. Maybe that has something to do why your mouthpiece that you bought in 1982 is still good.
I myself have plastic things that are decades old.
But, they don't live life in 200*F heat, like underhood car bits do.
Dafuq is wrong with you, are you off your meds or something?
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Ordinary builder grade Hunter Douglas horizontal and vertical blinds circa 1987, use a plastic clip to fasten parts of the track / upper rail. This is exposed to sunlight. Around 8 years in, these had degraded to yellow cracking garbage. I called the company: they were aware of the problem, asked how many clips I needed, and sent them at no charge.
Camera case from around 1980 with polyurethane foam inserts. After exposure to Los Angeles "air" then mostly closed dark storage for years, the foam degraded
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Apparently none of your anecdotes created invisible particles that can only be fixed with communism.
If what we are being told is true, plastic would melt, like ice. In fact, it would behave exactly like ice, where solid becomes liquid and then the water vapor escapes into the air and disappears.
I have never once ever in my life seen plastic disappear. Ever.
fashion and science meet in the middle (Score:2)
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"This message was brought to you by Carl's Jr. - F**k you, I'm eating!"
Wrong objective (Score:3)
The rate the plastics production, & therefore pollution, is increasing, makes any short-term calculations of how quickly they turn into worse pollution redundant. We already have an abundant & inexhaustible supply of toxic pollution that has permeated through everything everywhere.
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Imagine if there was a global standard for food, beverage, and consumable chemical containers that mandated wide-mouth-mason-type ring and disc lids on glass containers.
Make them 7cm ( 2 3/8" ), 14cm ( 5 1/8"), or 28cm ( 10 5/8) in diameter with a wall thickness of 5mm microwave safe glass, any height, lids and bottoms are textured non-slip interlocking ridges, labelling on the lids and sides printed using organic dyes on non-tree pulp paper (hemp, bamboo, etc.), lid gasket made of organic oils derived rub
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Sigh.
It never really changes.
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Corrupt Semantics (Score:2)
Nothing quite highlights the level of absolute greed and corruption, than knowing you’re directly contributing to the massive problem of microplastic poisoning damn near everything it touches, and yet the best you can do is recommend a preferred color.
It’s like listening to a doctor in 2024 advise a smoker use a [sponsored] brand of cigarettes instead of cessation. Don’t we know better by now? If not, when?
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Nothing quite highlights the level of absolute greed and corruption, than knowing you’re directly contributing to the massive problem of microplastic poisoning damn near everything it touches, and yet the best you can do is recommend a preferred color.
It’s like listening to a doctor in 2024 advise a smoker use a [sponsored] brand of cigarettes instead of cessation. Don’t we know better by now? If not, when?
While I don't want to stomp on your narrative, the majority of oceanic plastic isn't from us. The Philippines, China, Thailand and some African nations are dumping most of the perfectly recyclable, domestically produced PVC plastic.
The US and Europe contribute only around 10 percent of the total.
I get UN reports about efforts to curb plastic dumping in Africa, and it is sort of amusing, because they have to stick to the narrative that it is the fault of the USA as close as possible, knowing that desp
Could've just asked me (Score:2)
"Hey, Bill - if we put a lot of pigment molecules into a plastic mix, will that increase or decrease cross-linking polymerization?"
This is why people use ugly PLA for utility prints too.
Now, if they told us why blue pigments are the worst, that would be quite a study.
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And of course there is the problem of the countries that produce most of the oceanic plastic will likely ignore this news even if it is somehow good.
The Philippines, China, Thailand, and Some African nations are the major players in the ocean plastic issue.
The Philippines are working to solve their contributions, the UN is working with th eAfrican nations, I'
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You'll love this pretty shade of grey (Score:2)
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Can we get off the short term mentality please? (Score:2)
I mean sure the brightly coloured plastic might degrade faster, but isn't that the ultimate destiny of all the plastic regardless of the speed it degrades?
Anyway isn't plastic degrading faster a relatively good thing compared to longer-lived plastics that would stay as microplastics for longer?
Henry Ford would be so proud (Score:2)
"You can have any color you want as long as it's black." - Henry Ford. While we're at it, why don't we mandate that every color be Mao-suit olive drab?