Neuralink To Test Brain Implant On Second Patient (axios.com) 47
The FDA has approved Neuralink to implant its brain chip in a second patient. According to the Wall Street Journal, the company also outlined fixes to an electrode problem that caused its chip to detach from the first patient's brain. They were unharmed and could still control a computer mouse using their thoughts. Axios reports: Neuralink, which is owned by Elon Musk, said it is seeking applications for another patient with quadriplegia to test if the device can allow a person to do tasks like control a phone and computer. It outlined fixes that included embedding some of the device's wiring deeper into the brain, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing a document and a person familiar with the company.
Neuralink rival Synchron is preparing a large-scale clinical trial with an eye toward seeking commercial approval of its implant. Mass General Brigham has also launched a collaborative effort with stakeholders and the FDA to accelerate the development of the implanted devices.
Neuralink rival Synchron is preparing a large-scale clinical trial with an eye toward seeking commercial approval of its implant. Mass General Brigham has also launched a collaborative effort with stakeholders and the FDA to accelerate the development of the implanted devices.
The connection problem (Score:2)
It turns out they'd known about brain rejection of the connection for several years. They'd not been able to solve it prior to the first patient, which means they installed something they knew was defective and they knew what the specific defect was.
There's next to no chance they've solved the issue so quickly, so I'm deeply concerned the FDA is being negligent here.
Re:The connection problem (Score:5, Informative)
I'm deeply concerned the FDA is being negligent here.
It is ONE patient who is a fully informed consenting adult.
Even with the loose connection, the first patient was able to communicate by moving a mouse, which is a big improvement in quality-of-life for someone with quadriplegia.
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Not quite, along with the usual implant for media will be an implant to enjoy said media. Then you never need to become aware of it, except maybe on your bank statement.
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Also, when your license for a piece of entertainment expires it will purge much of your memory of it since your memory represents an unauthorized copy.
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Any of your negative emotions would be suppressed, including depressions, madness, and psychotic.
we need those to survive
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try navigating the world without emotions. because you cannot remove depression without removing happiness. so youve essentially created a emotionless robot whos actually terrible and logical thought and calculation, and most of their mental horsepower was tied to emotions of some kind. without emotions its also possible you dont have memory, given how crucial it is in memory formation
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Will it also work on space madness?
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Except you don't need a brain implant for that. There are multiple, non-invasive, alternatives.
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Even with the loose connection, the first patient was able to communicate by moving a mouse
WAS able. The device has already failed, so they already cannot do that any more.
Re: The connection problem (Score:2)
Where the fuck did you get that from? TFS even says the opposite. You're just a dumb fuck asshole who wants to see this fall and the paralyzed patients to be SOL solely because you don't like Elon. It's written all over your posts on this topic.
Re: The connection problem (Score:2)
Can't keep up with the news huh? Over half of the connections have failed already.
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At least 85%, though it could be more. It's hard to trust anything coming from one of Elmo's ventures.
To call being able to move a mouse "life changing" for the patient is absurd, given that there are countless other assistive technologies that are not invasive at all that the patient could have been using instead to give him the control demonstrated in the video. The impression I got from the video was that he either wasn't given knowledge of or access to many other assistive technologies. The only othe
Re: The connection problem (Score:2)
To call being able to move a mouse "life changing" for the patient is absurd,
That was his own description, shit for brains.
given that there are countless other assistive technologies that are not invasive at all that the patient could have been using instead to give him the control demonstrated in the video. The impression I got from the video was that he either wasn't given knowledge of or access to many other assistive technologies.
That's because you're incredibly stupid. You're talking as though this is the very first thing he even attempted as if he was as dumb as you and drinkypoo are. Even if he was, his medical team and/or case workers would have presented other options long before it got anywhere near the point of considering a brain implant.
Those other assistive technologies you're talking about make different assumptions about what kind of movement the patient even has available. M
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LOL! You don't have the first clue, you drooling moron.
You are not even remotely qualified for this discussion.
What a fucking joke!
Re: The connection problem (Score:2)
Much more qualified than you. Remember, you've been kicked in the face too much.
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LOL! You really believe that, don't you? You poor deluded little troll.
You've shown yourself time and time again to be completely incompetent. There are few here as stupid and worthless as you.
As for the topic at hand, you are, as usual, completely out of your depth, uniquely unqualified for this discussion. Go waste someone else's time.
Re: The connection problem (Score:2)
LOL! You really believe that, don't you?
Dude, you admitted to it...
You poor deluded little troll.
You've shown yourself time and time again to be completely incompetent. There are few here as stupid and worthless as you.
Yet I'm within the top 3% of income earners while you're doing a low pay job that is so shitty that you need a union to take the edge off of it. And worse, you pay a portion of your income to a union boss who makes a lot more money than you do (and likely less than me.) You're a poor sap whose only skill is shining boots with your tongue.
As for the topic at hand, you are, as usual, completely out of your depth, uniquely unqualified for this discussion. Go waste someone else's time.
Your time is of no value, so by definition it can't be wasted.
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Dude, you admitted to it...
LOL! You're either delusional, illiterate, or both. I'm betting on both.
Yet I'm within the top 3% of income earners
Yeah, you're very clearly delusional. You are one of the most incompetent people I've ever seen post on this site. Keep dreaming, little troll.
You're such a fucking joke!
Re: The connection problem (Score:2)
LOL! You're either delusional, illiterate, or both. I'm betting on both.
You said you're tired of getting kicked in the face.
Yeah, you're very clearly delusional. You are one of the most incompetent people I've ever seen post on this site. Keep dreaming, little troll.
You're such a fucking joke!
I'll tell you what, use whatever percentile calculator you want. Box 1 on my 2023 W2 was about $264,000 and some change. Let's not even count other forms of income. What do you come up with?
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You must be getting rattled. You poor thing.
You said you're tired of getting kicked in the face.
Now we can confirm that you are both completely delusion and illiterate! Oh, you poor little troll... Won't some one teach you how to read?
use whatever percentile calculator you want. Box 1 on my 2023 W2 was about $264,000 and some change.
LOL! You're trying to convince me you're not an idiot ... by claiming some imaginary income ... and that's what you came up with?! LOL! Dream bigger, you stupid, stupid, little troll.
You truly are a fucking joke!
Re: The connection problem (Score:2)
Now we can confirm that you are both completely delusion and illiterate! Oh, you poor little troll... Won't some one teach you how to read?
You literally used the first person plural when you talked about being tired off getting kicked in the face. I don't know who the others are, but you definitely included yourself among them.
LOL! You're trying to convince me you're not an idiot ... by claiming some imaginary income ... and that's what you came up with?! LOL! Dream bigger, you stupid, stupid, little troll.
You truly are a fucking joke!
Everything I've ever claimed about myself on this site is true. And yeah, I'm a troll. I've always admitted to that. Trolling is fun, and the only reason I reply to you is for my own entertainment. One of the best ways of trolling people like you is to simply tell the truth. Like this little nugget: If you feel the need
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LOL!
(I'm just assuming it's funny. Actually reading your sad little ramblings would have been a waste of time.)
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It was meant to be. It also explains why I'm more authoritative than you on this (and basically any other) topic.
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LOL! You're such a fucking joke!
Keep crying, little troll. With luck, you'll stop posting.
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This has the look of something being used for hype and showmanship of the kind that the SEC normally frowns on. It's bad enough from the standpoint of investors getting unreasonable confidence in other projects tangentally related but when you add in a potentially dangerous medical procedure that appears to be unnecessary it crosses the line into dystopian.
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the kind that the SEC normally frowns on.
Neuralink is a private company and the SEC has no authority over what they do.
Re:The connection problem (Score:5, Insightful)
Right. You, a rando on the internet, know so much more than the FDA, because you read something on the internet somewhere. *eyeroll*
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Those randos on the internet did know more than the FAA when it came to the 737-Ma seeming like more of a money saving ploy than a sound aircraft not in need of recertification.
The government industries are often very low on budget and time, for starters, not to mention hampered by rules designed for certain kinds of company.
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Those randos on the internet did know more than the FAA when it came to the 737-Ma seeming like more of a money saving ploy than a sound aircraft not in need of recertification.
has this become the new deep-state/chemtrails/current-in-vogue-conspiracy?
So I don't know more than the FDA doctors (Score:2)
Folks have yet to realize the full impact of the last 45 years. The stuff that our great grandparents fought to the nail for we just pissed away.
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It turns out they'd known about brain rejection of the connection for several years. They'd not been able to solve it prior to the first patient, which means they installed something they knew was defective and they knew what the specific defect was.
Of course they knew about that problem, that's how they solved it already.
Rejection causes the brain tissue around an implanted device to die.
This hasn't yet happened with neurolink.
Retraction here is describing 1 of the 64 threads moving, where it can no longer pickup signals from the location it was bonded in.
That bonding isn't automagic, it happens during a short window after implantation.
This window has past. They would need to remove, recoat, and reinstall the device to make the bond happen again.
The
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Shh, we're supposed to be bashing tech that utterly transforms the lives of paralyzed people because the guy who owns the company is a jerk.
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Neural implants are nothing new. It was being done back in 1998. https://www.nytimes.com/1998/1... [nytimes.com]
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How many commercial products do you see on the market?
Nobody is saying that "neural implants" are new. Trying to make them practical, such as not getting rapidly encapsulated and not having a hole in the head allowing infections to spread straight into the brain and having sufficient bandwidth for common tasks - is the point. This is not easy (particularly the first issue), which is why it's taken so long. The old meat cleaver-like Utah Arrays in particular just plow fat pins straight through blood vess
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Neural implants are nothing new. It was being done back in 1998. https://www.nytimes.com/1998/1... [nytimes.com]
If that version was so great, what happened between then and now?
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A billionaire meme lord.