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Pet Parrots Prefer Live Video-Calls Over Watching Pre-Recorded Videos (phys.org) 73

When given the choice, pet parrots prefer to video-call each other instead of watch pre-recorded videos of other birds. Those are the findings from a new paper (PDF) set to appear next week at a conference on Human Factors in Computing Systems in Hawaii. Phys.Org reports: The study, led by animal-computer interaction specialists at the University of Glasgow, gave tablet devices to nine parrots and their owners to explore the potential of the video chats to expand the birds' social lives. Their results suggest that the clever birds, who often suffer from loneliness in captivity, may be able to tell the difference between live and pre-recorded content on digital devices, and strongly prefer interacting with other birds in real time.

Over the course of the six-month study, the parrots chose to initiate calls to other birds significantly more often than they opted to watch pre-recorded footage. They also seemed more engaged in the live chats, spending much longer on calls with other birds than they did watching videos from a library of options. The findings could help steer the future course of the emerging "animal internet," which uses digital technology to empower animals to interact with humans and each other in new ways.

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Pet Parrots Prefer Live Video-Calls Over Watching Pre-Recorded Videos

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  • by Valgrus Thunderaxe ( 8769977 ) on Thursday May 02, 2024 @06:26PM (#64443588)
    All the parrots I deal with prefer the live video calls, too.
  • by Rei ( 128717 ) on Thursday May 02, 2024 @06:51PM (#64443628) Homepage

    They're intelligent social animals. Even just a change in eye contact from me alters my Amazon's behavior. He's incredibly attuned to my posture, tone of voice, mannerisms, etc, to clue in whether he's going to e.g. be getting a treat or scolded for misbehavior or whatnot. I can't imagine that a video without that back-and-forth would stimulate him.

    I don't watch TV anymore, but he used to just tune it out. Rather, he'd tune into *me*. He'd laugh at the funny parts of shows and the like, not because he understood the humour, but because he was paying attention to me, and I was laughing, so he wanted to join in. And then I'd react amusedly to his taking part, he'd get attention, and getting attention was in turn a reward to him. They like getting reactions to the things they do. A video won't do that.

    And yeah, he understands what screens are - same as mirrors. Some smaller psittacines are known to strongly interact with mirrors as if they're other birds, but in my experience, the larger ones don't do that; they quickly learn it's their reflection and stop caring. As a side note, I actually tried the mirror test with my Amazon twice, but each time I got a null result. You're supposed to put an unusual mark or lightweight object on their head where they can't see it, put them in front of a mirror, and if they interact with the mirror like it's another animal, they don't recognize it's their reflection; while if they use it to try to preen the hidden mark/object, it's a sign of recognition. But my Amazon didn't give a rat's arse. I might as well have put him in front of a wall for all it mattered; he gave the mark zero attention. Didn't care about the reflection of a bird. Didn't care about the mark on his head. Just sat there waiting for me to put him back on his cage :P I couldn't get him to interact with the reflection at all. Nor does he react to birds on TV. By contrast, he'll VERY MUCH interact with a real bird (he hates them all... he's very antisocial with nonhumans).

    • Over 20 years ago, Dr. Irene Pepperburg and other members of the MIT Media Lab created the "Interpet Explorer". It was designed to see if the Grey Parrots would interact with what was on the screen. I think the study concluded the birds preferred working with people in person. My old Grey liked watching kids programming because she liked the sounds the characters made. I have one now that doesn't care for watching the TV but when I am on Teams calls and he is in the room, he loves making a ruckus by whi

    • >> They're intelligent social animals

      So true. I've 'hosted' some cockatiels as pets and they were very smart in their own way. Loved attention and were very interactive.

    • by serviscope_minor ( 664417 ) on Friday May 03, 2024 @04:48AM (#64444226) Journal

      As a side note, I actually tried the mirror test with my Amazon twice, but each time I got a null result.

      The mirror test universally failed on cats, leading to the conclusion that cats don't understand mirrors.

      Right up until some completely nonscientific people taking funny videos with snapchat filters.

      https://twitter.com/nicholarai... [twitter.com]

      Not all cats react, obviously the video is of ones that do, but it's abundantly clear that despite having failed the mirror test in studies, cats (at least some) know what a mirror is and how it works, because they react to the difference between what's above out of view and what's in the mirror.

      • by gTsiros ( 205624 )

        it's not that they consider the mirror itself as an object.

        it's that they recognize _what_ they see, ignoring the phenomenon of reflection.

        I can very reliably motion to my cat "here" through the reflection _on the stove's front glass_ and he comes to me, not towards the reflection.

        the intricacies and metaphysical aspects of "perception" intrigue me a whole fucking lot. What we consider "vision" has nothing to do with optics. It's all _thought_. All of it. What we name "vision" is the *result* of whatever su

    • by cusco ( 717999 )

      A study a number of years ago found that dogs could tell the actual emotional state of a professional actor better than a human in the same room could. I always found that intriguing.

  • Parrot Porn (Score:5, Funny)

    by bugs2squash ( 1132591 ) on Thursday May 02, 2024 @06:59PM (#64443642)
    I'm guessing the other birds were not wearing clothes.
  • by burtosis ( 1124179 ) on Thursday May 02, 2024 @07:41PM (#64443698)
    Parrots (and most birds) can see about 120-140 “frames” per second whereas a human is 30-60. So while a video call may look fluid to a human, it’s going to look really choppy to a bird. At least their auditory frequency range is inside that of humans, at about 200hz to 8.5kHz. So they at least hear each other relatively normally.

    My dog does not respond to dog or many other noises it usually does when on the TV, likely because nothing really above 12kHz gets through while their range goes up to 45kHz. It must sound awful and not life like to them. Dogs also see flicker up to about 75hz so between the two they probably wonder what the heck we are doing watching a garbled flickery box all day. At least with newer formats the frame rate is better, 24 fps must look just unbearably bad to birds and dogs.
    • by xlsior ( 524145 )

      Parrots (and most birds) can see about 120-140 “frames” per second whereas a human is 30-60.24 fps must look just unbearably bad to birds and dogs.

      Except recorded and live video will almost certainly use near-identical framerates, since both are tailored to human perception in the first place. If the birds react different to the videos then it should be based on the actual content itself.

      • Except recorded and live video will almost certainly use near-identical framerates, since both are tailored to human perception in the first place. If the birds react different to the videos then it should be based on the actual content itself.

        Where did I say it would favor one over the other? Look up and read it again. It was more to the effect of animals do not share the same senses as humans just because they have eyes and ears and our technology likely looks alien to them in ways that humans do not see. Thats not even counting how their brains process visual and auditory cues differently, further changing perceptions. Neither calls nor live video are going to look nearly as well to birds as humans see it, something most people wouldn

    • by Rei ( 128717 )

      This is interesting. I've noticed that most of my parrot's senses seem duller than mine (unlike with, say, dogs) - not as picky with taste (except staleness), no meaningful signs of a significant sense of smell, has trouble seeing things that are right near him sometimes, etc - but he seems more atuned to having rapid reactions to anything unusual than I am. Like, at my old place, whenever a chunk of ice would break off the roof and crash down to the ground below, he'd be reacting before my senses even r

      • I've noticed that most of my parrot's senses seem duller than mine (unlike with, say, dogs) - not as picky with taste (except staleness), no meaningful signs of a significant sense of smell, has trouble seeing things that are right near him sometimes, etc

        Many birds (including parrots) are generally tetrachromats so he can likely perceive things you cannot visually, even if he can't focus very close. Bird eyes are somewhat different from human ones with a very different set of tradeoffs, he can probably see

        • I've noticed that most of my parrot's senses seem duller than mine (unlike with, say, dogs) - not as picky with taste (except staleness), no meaningful signs of a significant sense of smell, has trouble seeing things that are right near him sometimes, etc

          Many birds (including parrots) are generally tetrachromats so he can likely perceive things you cannot visually, even if he can't focus very close. Bird eyes are somewhat different from human ones with a very different set of tradeoffs, he can probably see things you can't and vice versa.

          On any video, parrots are likely to see it as a kind of sepia like tone because their vision extents into the ultraviolet while not exactly overlapping the same sensitivity our cones produce and our RGB style formats do not accommodate that. So beyond looking like a choppy set of pictures it’s going to have its color greatly washed out.

    • Regarding the flickery box, ever since LCD it's not flickering, but for a fast viewer it is probably more like a slide show. But as a dog will not have trouble interpreting someone or something on the other side of a fence (vertical bars that cause interruptions of the view) even when moving along the fence, it may just look a bit weird, but other things will help the dog decide on what's going on and whether to do something about it...
  • I don't think an animal needs to be particularly smart to prefer an interaction with a counter-party that responds to it, rather one that just completely ignores it. Seen that way, of course a video call is more interesting than a recording for exactly that reason. What is interesting about the study is not that there is a preference, but how much of a preference there is.
  • BirdyCam (Score:5, Interesting)

    by cstacy ( 534252 ) on Thursday May 02, 2024 @09:23PM (#64443812)

    Around 2008 I had a budgie, but I sometimes had to take work trips. I had someone to feed him and check on him, but I wanted to stay in touch. So I set up a camera at the cage. The computer was right in his line of sight about 6 feet away (he lived in my home office, where I normally worked). Given the services of the day, I created him a Skype account and set it to only (and automatically) answer calls from friends, me being his only friend, of course.

    He LOVED IT and was always very excited when I called him. Sometimes he looked confused about not being able to see me, but he loved hearing me.

    He had a HUGE window to the balcony, but I was able to observe his typical behavior when I spied om him. Which was: he was pretty bored and just kinda sat around all the time. Play with toys occasionally, but he was mainly interested in me. Which makes sense since normally I was always physically in the room with him.

    • >> very excited when I called him

      Similar experience here. Birds get bonded to you. They are fun pets if you like that kind of interaction, but you have to pay attention to them pretty regularly or they don't do well. It is cool to have a bird sit on your shoulder and demand to be petted. Not as cool if they start preening and shed feathers on you.

  • by hoofie ( 201045 ) <(mickey) (at) (mouse.com)> on Thursday May 02, 2024 @09:29PM (#64443818)

    Being from Glasgow myself I wonder how the parrots understand each other as the local accent is so strong.

  • It appears they've nailed the reason for success of the porn online shows vs. porn videos.

  • My preference for parrot is breaded and deep fried in peanut oil, with a side of whatever sauce I fancy that day.
  • You know it's only a matter of time!
  • But, is an RGB screen the right sort of screen for a parrot?
    They don't produce the same range of colours as real life images, but human eyes can't tell the difference because they sample 3 ranges of wavelengths and RGB works on 3 wavelengths that match those ranges. The eyes of other animals sample different wavelengths and have a different number of samples.

  • So we have a story on Slashdot about parrots and I wasn't able to find a single joke about pining for the fjords. There isn't much left of this place from when I originally joined back in 2001 (different account). Makes me a bit sad.
  • Can't believe nobody posted this so far...

  • I was always told that my parakeet thought it's reflection was another bird and just accepted that. I even see wild birds strutting around and seemingly, interacting with their reflections in car mirrors or shiny glass. Now, i think this isn't them mistaking the reflrection for a bird, but understanding it's their reflection. I think they are just checking out what they look like while strutting around the same way i have a hard time not checking myself out in a mirror.

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