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'Larger Than Everest' Comet Could Become Visible To Naked Eye This Month 54

12P/Pons-Brooks, a Halley-type comet larger than Mount Everest and with a 71.3-year orbit, is expected to become visible to the naked eye in the coming weeks as it makes its closest approach to the sun on April 21. The Guardian reports: While some reports suggest 12P/Pons-Brooks was spotted as far back as the 14th century, it is named after the French astronomer Jean-Louis Pons who discovered it in 1812 and the British-American astronomer William Robert Brooks who observed it on its next orbit in 1883. Thought to have a nucleus about 30km (20 miles) in diameter, it is classed as a cryovolcanic comet, meaning it erupts with dust, gases and ice when pressure builds inside as it is heated. One such outburst last year caused it to brighten a hundredfold and garnered it the sobriquet of "the Devil Comet" after the haze that surrounds it formed a horned shape.

While the comet -- and its green tinge -- has already been spotted in the night sky, experts say it is expected to become even brighter in the coming weeks. "The comet is expected to reach a magnitude of 4.5 which means it ought to be visible from a dark location in the UK," said Dr Paul Strom, an astrophysicist at the University of Warwick. "The comet moves from the constellation of Andromeda to Pisces. As it does so it passes by bright stars which will make it easier to spot on certain dates. In particular, on March 31 12P/Pons-Brooks will be only 0.5 a degree from the bright star called Hamal," he said. But Dr Robert Massey, the deputy executive director of the Royal Astronomical Society, said even if the comet did become brighter it could still be difficult to see, adding that basic instruments such as small telescopes would greatly help.

"If you have a half-decent pair of binoculars, certainly attempt to look for it with those," said Massey, adding that apps that map the sky were also useful. The best views of the comet are currently to be found in the northern hemisphere. Massey said those who wanted to catch a glimpse should venture out on a clear evening and look low in the west-north-west as twilight came to an end. "You want to avoid haze, you want to avoid moonlight, you want to avoid light pollution."
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'Larger Than Everest' Comet Could Become Visible To Naked Eye This Month

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  • by jesco ( 598308 ) on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @02:49AM (#64311411)

    Magnitude 4.5 is not dark. It should be easily visible from a suburb sky - just don't try to find the comet standing right next to a streetlight.

    Light pollution is bad as it is, but at least in my area 80% is darker than 4m5. Now, true 7m skies... that would be a treat, but nobody in central europe is ever going to have that anymore.

    • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @03:36AM (#64311465)

      *The Netherlands has entered the chat.
      [Netherlands]: What are these comet things you speak of? The sky is nothing more than a bright orange glow all night.

    • by Joce640k ( 829181 ) on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @06:41AM (#64311735) Homepage

      How many Everests is a standard Halley comet?

      Just trying to figure out if I should be impressed or not.

      • by rossdee ( 243626 )

        Everest is mostly rock, with a thin coating of ice and snow
        comets are mostly ice, with a bit of organic stuff.

        So a lot less dense than a mountain.

      • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

        Common Core Math:

        There are X football fields in 1 Everest, and Y Everests in 1 Comet Halley. Solve for X and Y.

        [relax it's a joke]

    • by RitchCraft ( 6454710 ) on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @08:46AM (#64311927)

      I'll never forget the times when I was in the Marine Corps and attached to the USS John F Kennedy aircraft carrier. I was fortunate to be an avionics technician that frequently needed to be on the flight deck. During lights out drills at night in the middle of the ocean the entire universe would come slowly into view. After about 15 minutes the Milky Way would come into glorious view. The number of stars seen by the naked eye with no light pollution is mind-boggling. I'll never forget that. Even driving out into the countryside in rural Ohio on a moonless night can't match those dark skies.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Even driving out into the countryside in rural Ohio on a moonless night can't match those dark skies.

        I'm from the midwest and lived for years in a rural area without light pollution. I spent a few nights outside of Taos and I've never seen skies like that in my entire life. Being high and dry really helps.

      • I can second your story. In early '72. my ship went from Pearl Harbor to Subic Bay and the night skies were great. Then, we spend about seven months in and out of Tonkin Gulf and things were magnificent. Not just the Milky Way, either, because the Southern Cross dominated the night sky. Alas, we never got far enough south to see the Magellanic Clouds. We could have crossed the Equator on the way back, but the Captain let us vote on it and the married men voted it down.
        • The only float time I had was in the Atlantic ocean typically between Norfolk and the Caribbean. I spent a few months at Subic and wouldn't you know it they put us Marines at the top of the highest hill in Quonset huts, but it was dark up there and the night sky was awesome. Side note: The first time I saw the giant bats landing in the trees up there I shit bricks.

        • We could have crossed the Equator on the way back, but the Captain let us vote on it and the married men voted it down.

          Errr, why?

          Does the US (?) Navy have some bizarre sexual ritual about crossing the Equator. The only thing our ship did was the Captain made a tannoy announcement each time we went over the line.

          (First clear night from a desert island south of the equator, I succumbed to shouting at the sky, "Mine! All mine!" Then I went back to my beer at the rig's bar and brothel.

          • Errr, why?

            Presumably, the married men wanted to get home to their wives and their sons and their daughters.

            Does the US (?) Navy have some bizarre sexual ritual about crossing the Equator. The only thing our ship did was the Captain made a tannoy announcement each time we went over the line.

            No, just the standard visitation by King Neptune and the initiation of the Pollywogs by the Shellbacks.
            • Yeah, I heard about that but never had to take part in it (thank goodness, LOL)

            • Errr, why?

              Presumably, the married men wanted to get home to their wives and their sons and their daughters.

              That sounds as if the captain was proposing a diversion to cross the Equator twice - which would certainly have been squashed by Head Office for wasting fuel and engine-hours - not the [optional] holding of a "crossing party" (different japes for different navies - civilian and military).

              Just a second while I check the geometry : start and end points on different side of the Equator - ship must cross

              • If memory serves, this would have included liberty in Singapore, by a route that required Crossing the Line. The married men managed to persuade enough others not to do it, so we all lost out. Of course, this was over fifty years ago, so the details are hazy.
                • Ah, Singapore is one of those "edge" cases. At 1deg 17'N and '(137 kilometres or 85 miles)' (Wiki) from the equator, it's close enough to almost qualify (3-4 hours at efficient steaming speeds), but the deviation from an efficient course to Hawai`i (requiring to go through the middle of the Philippines, around Leyte Gulf) or to Southern California (requiring a passage north of the Philippines, and coming close to hitting Japan) is actually quite substantial - 30-odd deg as the vessel passes to the east of t
                  • (requiring to go through the middle of the Philippines, around Leyte Gulf)

                    Funny you should mention that. When my ship went to Subic Bay from the west Pacific, we went through Surigao Strait [wikipedia.org], site of a major naval battle late in WW II. The strait is so narrow that I could always see both shores as we steamed through, which explains quite a bit about the course of the battle.
  • by Framboise ( 521772 ) on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @03:39AM (#64311467)

    It could be visible during the April 8th total solar eclipse eclipse in North America, but only in the narrow totality band, a rather unique spectacle.

    • by HBI ( 10338492 )

      Even the glow from the corona seemed to put off light like a full moon during the last total eclipse. I wonder if it would even be visible then.

    • Uncommon, but hardly unique. SOHO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_and_Heliospheric_Observatory) saw hundreds of comets with it's coronagraph, so it's a racing certainty that people have seen - discovered, even - comets during an eclipse frequently in the past. I can't remember a specific example - but I bet you could find several photographs with a little searching.
  • Most comets are the size of small asteroids anyway and "larger than" can mean anything from a micrometre larger upwards.

  • Fff (Score:4, Funny)

    by backslashdot ( 95548 ) on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @05:13AM (#64311573)

    I'm not saying there's any reason to panic, but we're all gonna die.

  • ... I think we've established that the proper units here are "football fields".

    Everests ... sheesh!

    • No... "football fields" is metric, "Everest" is imperial.

      • Football fields are standard, football pitches are metric.

        • by dryeo ( 100693 )

          Yet 110 yards is close enough to 100 metres that it is easy to picture 100 metres as the distance between the goal posts in gridiron football.

    • ... I think we've established that the proper units here are "football fields".

      Everests ... sheesh!

      What do you mean? American or European?

      • Well, Chimborazo in Ecuador is the widest from the centre of the earth due to the elliptical nature of the equator.

        Let's not girth-shame the Andes.

        • No, the Equator is fairly close to a circle.

          You're thinking of the oblate ellipsoid shape of the Earth, which is best seen on great circle sections that pass through the poles.

          You're right about Chimborazo being the furthest point on the surface of the Earth from the centre of the Earth.

      • by dryeo ( 100693 )

        Canadian, 110 yards or 101 metres.

    • Football fields are a measure of area. We don't, as yet, have an established measure of volume, but Everests seems to be a reasonable choice for things of this magnitude.
      • by sconeu ( 64226 )

        Of course we have one. Olympic-sized swimming pools!

      • Why are so many Christians God fearing instead of God loving?

        If you actually want to know, it's because He says to do both:

        And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him [biblehub.com] who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

        (Sorry that I can only refer to Jesus here as my expert on Christianity, instead of someone more hip and modern ...)

  • which means it ought to be visible from a dark location

    *If you spend hours of driving 100s of miles to do this.

  • Time to move to Asia.

  • It's odd how near the millennium change-over, we had two very prominent comets, but duds since.

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