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Scientific Journal Retracts Article That Claimed No Evidence of Climate Crisis (theguardian.com) 100

One of the world's biggest scientific publishers has retracted a journal article that claimed to have found no evidence of a climate crisis. From a report: Springer Nature said it had retracted the article, by four Italian physicists, after an internal investigation found the conclusions were "not supported by available evidence or data provided by the authors." Climate sceptic groups widely publicised the article, which appeared in the European Physical Journal Plus in January 2022 -- a journal not known for publishing climate change science.

Nine months later the article was reported uncritically in a page one story in the Australian newspaper and promoted in two segments on Sky News Australia -- a channel that has been described as a global hub for climate science misinformation. The segments were viewed more than 500,000 times on YouTube. The article claimed to have analysed data to find no trend in rainfall extremes, floods, droughts and food productivity. "In conclusion on the basis of observational data, the climate crisis that, according to many sources, we are experiencing today, is not evident yet," the article said.

Several climate scientists told the Guardian and later the news agency AFP that the article had misrepresented some scientific articles, was "selective and biased" and had "cherrypicked" information. After those concerns were raised, Springer Nature announced in October it was investigating the article. In a statement Springer Nature said its editors had launched a "thorough investigation," which included a post-publication review by subject matter experts. The authors of the article also submitted an addendum to their original work during the course of the investigation, the statement said.

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Scientific Journal Retracts Article That Claimed No Evidence of Climate Crisis

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  • Springer again (Score:4, Interesting)

    by HiThere ( 15173 ) <[ten.knilhtrae] [ta] [nsxihselrahc]> on Friday August 25, 2023 @03:10PM (#63796950)

    Unfortunately, I think I recall hearing of several quite dubious articles published by Springer in one magazine or another. Admittedly this is over a period of several years, but I rather think that are a bit loose in their editorial oversight. Unless it's something worse.

    • by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Thay are probably doing this really cheaply to optimize their earnings. Makes them a low-quality publisher.

    • AFAIK, the editors of scientific journals are faculty at research institutions themselves (at least the ones I know). They fit their editorial duties in with their own research & other faculty obligations, usually unpaid. Yes, it would be nice to have professional editors who can be held to account. However, going after an editor in most cases will only mean that they'll probably quit & then you'll have to find someone else willing & able to take on the role... after they've heard what happened
    • Problem is about five to ten years ago Springer expanded their range into, well, not quite any old crap that came along but they certainly massively diluted their brand in exchange for more revenue. In this case a climate-change paper appeared in European Physical Journal Plus whatever that is, from a quick Google search it has a 100% acceptance rate and an impact score of 3.something out of 10, which makes it a pay-to-publish article mill. So forget the "Springer" in the name, it's "paper published in lo
      • by HiThere ( 15173 )

        If it's a "paper published in low-grade journal found to have major flaws" that has Springer's name on it, then it's important to remember that Springer's name was on a really low grade paper.

  • I see the evidence of this climate crisis every day actually. I am 47, the temperature is much higher these days than I remember any time in the past. I have close people sending me photos they take of nature dying, birds, hedgehogs just sitting there, doing nothing because clearly they are overheated by months of crazy heat. At the ocean the water is much warmer than I am used to, the winters are completely different and I travel, I visit easily 15-20 countries per year and it is happening everywhere.

    Th

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by AmazingRuss ( 555076 )
      Humanity is a disease. We fester.
      • I don't think we are a disease, I think we are extremely inert, as a collective we are lemmings, we will jump off a cliff because everyone is doing it. Individually we are trying to improve our own plight, we do go the way of the least resistance. Lack of education is the problem, propaganda is the problem, lack of ability to analyze and think for ourselves is the problem. Inability to recognize our own mistakes is a problem.

        However I don't think that any other species would have fared any better at all,

        • lack of ability to analyze and think for ourselves is the problem. Inability to recognize our own mistakes is a problem.

          You'll often hear folks our age lament and suggest the education system should teach this or that. Maybe it's basic life skills like balancing a check book or changing a tire, whatever pops in our head today. Mine would be basic data analysis. So many times I've come across a person who was so adamant some issue is the end of the world, sky is falling crap but when you look at the numbers it then becomes clear they literally have a better chance at getting struck by lightning. I'm exaggerating a bit but you

      • by Jodka ( 520060 )

        Humanity is a disease. We fester.

        Speak for yourself.

    • Re: (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      I see the evidence of this climate crisis every day actually. I am 47, the temperature is much higher these days than I remember any time in the past. I have close people sending me photos they take of nature dying, birds, hedgehogs just sitting there, doing nothing because clearly they are overheated by months of crazy heat. At the ocean the water is much warmer than I am used to, the winters are completely different and I travel, I visit easily 15-20 countries per year and it is happening everywhere.

      The question is whether we can actually change anything at all, can we block the Sun for example? Even blocking 1-2% of the Sun light and heat would actually alleviate this problem almost immediately. However as a species on this planet we cannot even agree that dying off as a species is not a desired outcome. Then there are people who deny the change of the climate and the obvious heating problem, then there are people who believe we shouldn't be trying to do anything because whatever we do will be worse than the status quo. I disagree. With this attitude we shouldn't have been building houses, machines, we shouldn't have been making clothes and improving our food production because the outcomes could have been worse.

      Our ancestors didn't stop though, they built houses, they mined coal and oil and today we have what we have. The problem is now, it's with us here and we cannot at this point expect the future generations to fix it because we are already that generation that should be fixing it.

      Can we block the Sun even slightly by sending millions of satellites into an orbit between the Sun and Earth, can this be done at all with the technologies we have today? I think yes, but the cost is truly insurmountable. Clearly it is much easier to use sulfur and sodium to generate mist above the oceans to block the light at least a tiny bit. Apparently we removed sulfur from diesel fuels that container vessels were burning and so we cleaned up the air and that gave us another problem - faster heating I think.

      Of-course some will say we have other options, I don't see them. Can we build a giant radiator and attach it to the planet to radiate heat into space? I don't think that's going to happen. Instead of reducing CO2 production we are also increasing it by shutting down nuclear reactors for power generation and starting coal, gas, heavy oil generators. I don't think reducing the CO2 levels is going to happen and even if we did reduce it, the heating wouldn't go away, it is with us to stay for a long time. So it is better to start thinking about reducing the further heating of the planet by blocking the Sun somehow than waiting to be dead just like those birds and hedgehogs that are dying from overheating on the streets of Antalya.

      If you're traveling to 15-20 countries every year, you're part of the problem. Get the fuck off of airplanes and start practicing what you preach.

      • Not just airplanes of-course, half airplanes. However what did you see that I am 'preaching' that goes against my proposals - using nuclear, figuring out how to block the heat from the Sun?

        Someone just downmoded my original comment here, this is normal, it's just what happens whenever I talk about figuring out how to block the light and heat of the Sun by a percentage point, not sure what you all need 100% of the heat for, can't we just do with the 98% of it?

        • by noodler ( 724788 )

          Not just airplanes of-course, half airplanes. However what did you see that I am 'preaching' that goes against my proposals - using nuclear, figuring out how to block the heat from the Sun?

          I see extreme egoism and hypocrisy. You are engaged in activities that cause the problem. None of your solutions include you stopping to cause the problem.

          • Shouldn't you be consistent and apply your logic equally? I have ability to travel and you have ability to travel, our destinations and distances may be different, but if you want to stop me from travelling shouldn't you stop driving, taking public transit, buying clothes and food and entertainment and energy and living in a house? All of these are provided by industries that use energy to run and they burn stuff. I am conscious enough to realize that no individual will change their pattern of behavior,

    • "the temperature is much higher these days than I remember any time in the past": that has to be the worst reason I've ever heard for believing in global warming, bar none. According to NASA's graph at https://climate.nasa.gov/evide... [nasa.gov] the global temperature during your lifetime has been less than 1 degree Celsius, or less than 2 degrees Fahrenheit. Do you seriously think that you are capable of detecting that amount of warming? Your 47 year old body is way different from your 7 year old body, heck it's

      • Since I am not a machine with sensors spanning the globe and recording the data points over 5 decades I will go from my own subjective observations regardless of your comment and my own subjective observations are telling me that it is hotter than before, that the winters are milder and shorter, the trees get destroyed by beetles more because the insects don't die off longer, that the ocean water is hotter and that the wild fires are more expansive than before. While it is true that the temperatures averag

      • by noodler ( 724788 )

        "the temperature is much higher these days than I remember any time in the past": that has to be the worst reason I've ever heard for believing in global warming, bar none. According to NASA's graph at https://climate.nasa.gov/evide [nasa.gov]... [nasa.gov] the global temperature during your lifetime has been less than 1 degree Celsius, or less than 2 degrees Fahrenheit. Do you seriously think that you are capable of detecting that amount of warming?

        That's not how it works tho.
        Even a half degree change in global averages means the local weather can destabilize and make for periods with more frequent and more severe extremes.

    • For me its the opposite. I'm 52. Between the ages of 14 and 21 I worked lawn service / landscaping. In NE Pennsylvania we would always seem to have at minimum 3 days over the course of any given summer where the actual temperature exceeded 100 deg F. Not the "feels like" temperature, the actual temp on a good ole mercury filled thermometer. I know this because this was the 80's. Nowadays you see lawn service/landscapers with some pretty impressive heavy machinery. I was the heavy machinery back then often w
  • by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Friday August 25, 2023 @03:26PM (#63797002)

    I like to think I'm a logical, critical-thinking, fairly well-educated person.

    What I have not been doing is studying climatology or checking temperature, wind, precipitation, insolation, and CO2 levels around the world to see if there's a trend worth knowing about.

    I can only be as informed as the results passed to me through credentialed experts. When people fake their political anti-science crap into the system, it hurts everybody, and it should be treated as a crime against us all.

    • When people fake their political anti-science crap into the system, it hurts everybody, and it should be treated as a crime against us all.

      Hang on, there's nothing in TFA to indicate they were intentionally trying to mislead anyone. Goodness knows we have enough of that.

      If you're logical and critical thinking, perhaps you should consider whether they made a mistake? Papers get withdrawn all the time because their results are not reproduceable.

      The line I liked was "... the article was reported uncritically in a page one story in the Australian newspaper.". No kidding, it seems every newspaper is willing to publish whatever claim they see. Journ

      • by Baron_Yam ( 643147 ) on Friday August 25, 2023 @06:11PM (#63797374)

        >perhaps you should consider whether they made a mistake?

        Then their 'science' was so astoundingly bad they shouldn't even have been able to find a self-publisher.

        No matter what, this paper should never have seen the light of day except as an example of what not to do.

        • No matter what, this paper should never have seen the light of day except as an example of what not to do.

          I see you are very sure, did you read that paper yourself? You just said you know nothing about that field and all your information is second hand. Seriously, you are quick to pass judgements when everything is hearsay.

          • So one paper, retracted over controversy, that went against the entire scientific world and well-established data... and you think that requires rigorous study to be confident it was shit?

            You sound like someone who would be interested a bridge I could sell you.

      • there's nothing in TFA to indicate they were intentionally trying to mislead anyone

        "cherrypicked" appears in TFS. HTH, HAND.

  • If you did say anything against it it would get shot down faster than a room temperature superconductor
  • Obviously we are reacting to changes in climate to keep food productivity high and continue to feed the world. The fact that we've thus far been able to mitigate the worst effects doesn't mean they're not there. It just means we've got a lid on it for now. But like a "contained" wildfire, it can quite easily escape that containment. Proving that we have managed to adapt so far is not the same as proving that there is no problem.

  • ... what should we disbelieve? The articles that Springer Nature publishes after careful evaluation and peer review? Or the articles that it retracts after strong political and media pressure?

    • The articles that Springer Nature publishes after careful evaluation and peer review?

      Let us know you don't understand the phrase "peer review" without telling us.

      Hint: publication is part of the peer review process.

  • "Concerns were raised regarding... the resulting conclusions of the article"

    Of course concerns were raised. Any scientific reasoning inconsistent with fossil fuel profiteering must be cancelled.

    Those pesky facts were getting in the way of the green agenda to save the world from carbon dioxide emissions by shutting down nuclear, so the article was retracted.

    Germany powers its economy by tearing up the earth to mine highly polluting coal and by destroying thousands or acres of woodlands annually to fuel thei

  • See Roger Pielke Jr.'s reporting on it: "Think of the Implications of Publishing" [substack.com]
    • by jhuebel ( 44324 )
      Thanks for that link. Assuming that the details of your linked whistleblower article are accurate, it does make the actions of the publication and their reasons for the retraction suspect.
      • by lsllll ( 830002 )
        To further question the publication's actions, from TFS:

        the article had misrepresented some scientific articles, was "selective and biased" and had "cherrypicked" information.

        It'd be interesting to see what they consider "misrepresented", but since when is being selective and cherry picking against the scientific method? I mean, if what's out there is the truth, then surely picking some of them to support one's argument is fair game, no?

        • Wait, What? Since when is cherrypicking data to support your predetermined conclusion considered "unscientific"?

          Please, tell me I just missed the implicit /s.

          Please?
        • by jvkjvk ( 102057 )

          > but since when is being selective and cherry picking against the scientific method?

          Just in case you are serious. Consider: Cherry picking data is having a set of data and doing something like taking all of the 10's, say, that are in the dataset and creating a model that matches the data set.

          Now, if the data you are cherry picking is to show that there is no climate crisis, what do you think the model will show? Have any guess?

          So no, that's not the scientific method at all, it is antithetical to the

          • by lsllll ( 830002 )
            I was being serious, but I didn't consider a scientist cherry picking a subset of data to support a claim, because that would indeed be unscientific, like you mentioned. I was more thinking along the lines of cherry picking full sets of data.
            • by noodler ( 724788 )

              I was more thinking along the lines of cherry picking full sets of data

              Same thing on a higher level..
              Statistics is a mine field.

  • Does Cliff Mass regularly use empirical evidence to support the same conclusion that there is no climate crisis evident in data yet?

  • You WILL retract this article...OR ELSE!
  • An article that shows evidence of a non-obvious phenomenon is worthy of publication, as is an article that proves or at least shows overwhelming evidence of a negative result. However, it should be obvious to any competent editor that an article that simply fails to show evidence is not worthy of publication. After all, it could be (as was the case for this article), that the authors were incompetent or biased.

    The authors were trying to advance their agenda. I don't blame them. It's was on the editor (a

  • The problem I have is the inability to trust that Journals would touch or consider papers that went against the grain whatever that grain happens to be.

    I think it should be mandatory if you are going to take what should be an extraordinary and rare step of retracting anything after the fact. Most especially after it gets a lot of attention and there is a lot of political pressure brought to bear your refutation had better be completely transparent, vigorous and beyond reproach.

    The evidence free commentary

    • "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence".

      It's a fairly effective way of weeding out the incompetent, the crazies, and the corrupted.

      Nobody should publish a paper like this for the public, it should have fought its way through the scientific community until multiple independent subject experts had said, "there might actually be something to this" first.

  • It's objectively true that the greenhouse effect is real and that with more CO2 you'll get more greenhouse effect and warmer temperatures. But whether this is at the level of "crisis" is entirely subjective. How can there be objective scientific evidence for or against that?

    .

    This is a nonsense article about a nonsense paper

    I look up at the subject line and see 'thegaurdian.com' and think "Yep, sounds about right".

  • We have seen retractions of articles and entire books based simply on political pressure, so unfortunately as far as learning anything is concerned, this retraction is a no-op. The only retractions of interest are those that clearly show falsification of data. And "clearly" is key.

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