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Target of European Space Debris Removal Mission Is Itself Hit by Space Debris (bloomberg.com) 21

A piece of space debris being monitored by the European Space Agency as part of a mission to remove trash from space was hit by another piece of debris, splintering the object into more pieces. From a report: ESA confirmed Tuesday that the US's 18th Space Defense Squadron, which tracks objects in orbit, spotted a number of new pieces in the vicinity of a payload adapter named VESPA that the agency had planned to pluck from space. The most likely cause of those new fragments is "the hypervelocity impact of a small, untracked object" ramming into VESPA, according to ESA. VESPA was left over from the launch of a European Vega rocket that took off from South America in 2013. It was part of a cone-shaped attachment used to deploy the rocket's satellite into orbit, and has been in Earth's orbit ever since. ESA said its new fragments don't pose much of a risk to any other spacecraft at the moment.
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Target of European Space Debris Removal Mission Is Itself Hit by Space Debris

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  • has been through this before she will be fine.
  • Unexpected events (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @04:54PM (#63788900) Journal

    ...are usually a good thing during a test, even if it splatters management's schedule. Otherwise, you won't be prepared if it happens again.

  • by CAIMLAS ( 41445 ) on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @05:33PM (#63788990)

    Why aren't they using high-intensity lasers to address space debris? Set up something like a mirror collector array to focus the beam to one or more mobile laser satellites capable of burning up the space waste - or at least to push it into a decaying orbit, or out of orbit so it can not be re-captured.

    • That scheme has been suggested before, but does the math add up? I can imagine it does for tiny pieces, but to deorbit a bigger piece you would need to impart a sizeable amount of energy.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Perhaps because it would be accused of being an anti-satellite weapon in space, which would be an escalation.

    • Lasers powerful enough to ablate enough material in the time that the target is in range, require more power than is available in a satellite.
      You could put the laser in a ground station, but then you'd have to be very careful not to shoot down any aircraft in the path of the beam.

    • It doesn't take a real genius to know that the targeting module is an important part of any space born laser system. Orbital debris tracks at insane speeds, especially the small stuff. Do the math, take a good look at the physics and find a slightly more realistic fantasy, may I suggest molten salt nuclear reactors?
    • by Tablizer ( 95088 )

      Because such makes Q and MTG freak out.

  • by fahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @05:42PM (#63789014)

    Target of European Space Debris Removal Mission Is Itself Hit by Space Debris

    Way less surprising than if it had been hit by some other type of debris.

    [ He said knowing there's literally everything in Space [youtube.com]. :-) ]

  • the US's 18th Space Defense Squadron

    There are 17 other Space Defense Squadrons? What do they do and why do we need 18 such squadrons?

    • by haruchai ( 17472 )

      the US's 18th Space Defense Squadron

      There are 17 other Space Defense Squadrons? What do they do and why do we need 18 such squadrons?

      In case Mars attacks
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

    • the US's 18th Space Defense Squadron

      There are 17 other Space Defense Squadrons? What do they do and why do we need 18 such squadrons?

      Well, I believe that justification can be best summed up in a single acronym: ICBM.

      Space defense got pretty damn real after nuclear-armed countries started aiming total annihilation at each other. Go figure the defense is still there, since the threat still is.

    • Maybe I'll hear the whoosh after the parent post is already over the horizon, but the straight answer has a lot to do with groups coming and going and moving around while keeping their same number (18th Space Surveillance, 18th Space Control, 18th Space Defense). I couldn't find a great graphic in short order, but wikipedia has a decent run-down [wikipedia.org].
  • It's colliding turtles all the way down.

  • by hoofie ( 201045 ) <(mickey) (at) (mouse.com)> on Tuesday August 22, 2023 @07:20PM (#63789220)

    For Fucks Sake STOP PUBLISHING ARTICLES THAT ARE BEHIND PAYWALLS!

    It's not Rocket Science ironically.

    If the article is behind a paywall don't accept it.

  • Alanis morissette enters the chat.
  • Yo dawg, I heard you like space debris, so we put space debris in your space debris!

  • 'This is the one thing we didn't want to happen'

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