70% of Drugs Advertised On TV Are of 'Low Therapeutic Value,' Study Finds (arstechnica.com) 107
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: According to a new study, a little over 70 percent of prescription drugs advertised on television were rated as having "low therapeutic value," meaning they offer little benefit compared with drugs already on the market. The study, appearing in JAMA Open Network, aligns with longstanding skepticism that heavily promoted drugs have high therapeutic value. "One explanation might be that drugs with substantial therapeutic value are likely to be recognized and prescribed without advertising, so manufacturers have greater incentive to promote drugs of lesser value," said the authors, which include researchers at Harvard, Yale, and Dartmouth.
For the new study, researchers led by Aaron Kesselheim, who leads Harvard's Program On Regulation, Therapeutics, And Law (PORTAL), looked at monthly lists of the top-advertised drugs on TV in the US between 2015 and 2021. They also looked up therapeutic value ratings for those drugs from independent health assessment agencies in Canada, France, and Germany. The value ratings were based on drugs' therapeutic benefit, safety profile, and strength of evidence, as compared with existing drugs. Any drug rated "moderate" or above was classified as a "high value" drug for the study. For drugs with multiple ratings, the study authors used the most favorable rating, which they note could overestimate the proportion of higher-benefit drugs.
Of the top advertised drugs, 73 had at least one value rating. Collectively, pharmaceutical companies spent $22.3 billion on advertising for those 73 drugs between 2015 and 2021. Even with the generous ratings, 53 of the 73 drugs (roughly 73 percent) were categorized as low-benefit. Collectively, these low-benefit drugs accounted for $15.9 billion of the ad spending. The top three low-benefit drugs by dollar amount were Dulaglutide (type 2 diabetes), Varenicline (smoking cessation), and Tofacitinib (rheumatoid arthritis). The outlook for change is bleak, the authors note. "Policy makers and regulators could consider limiting direct-to-consumer advertising to drugs with high therapeutic or public health value or requiring standardized disclosure of comparative effectiveness and safety data," Kesselheim and his colleagues concluded, "but policy changes would likely require industry cooperation or face constitutional challenge." The report notes that the U.S. is "one of only two countries that allows direct-to-consumer (DTC) drug advertisements, such as TV commercials." The other is New Zealand.
For the new study, researchers led by Aaron Kesselheim, who leads Harvard's Program On Regulation, Therapeutics, And Law (PORTAL), looked at monthly lists of the top-advertised drugs on TV in the US between 2015 and 2021. They also looked up therapeutic value ratings for those drugs from independent health assessment agencies in Canada, France, and Germany. The value ratings were based on drugs' therapeutic benefit, safety profile, and strength of evidence, as compared with existing drugs. Any drug rated "moderate" or above was classified as a "high value" drug for the study. For drugs with multiple ratings, the study authors used the most favorable rating, which they note could overestimate the proportion of higher-benefit drugs.
Of the top advertised drugs, 73 had at least one value rating. Collectively, pharmaceutical companies spent $22.3 billion on advertising for those 73 drugs between 2015 and 2021. Even with the generous ratings, 53 of the 73 drugs (roughly 73 percent) were categorized as low-benefit. Collectively, these low-benefit drugs accounted for $15.9 billion of the ad spending. The top three low-benefit drugs by dollar amount were Dulaglutide (type 2 diabetes), Varenicline (smoking cessation), and Tofacitinib (rheumatoid arthritis). The outlook for change is bleak, the authors note. "Policy makers and regulators could consider limiting direct-to-consumer advertising to drugs with high therapeutic or public health value or requiring standardized disclosure of comparative effectiveness and safety data," Kesselheim and his colleagues concluded, "but policy changes would likely require industry cooperation or face constitutional challenge." The report notes that the U.S. is "one of only two countries that allows direct-to-consumer (DTC) drug advertisements, such as TV commercials." The other is New Zealand.
need to ban the ad's like in most palces (Score:5, Insightful)
need to ban the ad's like in most places (that also seem to have much lower drug costs as well)
Re:need to ban the ad's like in most palces (Score:4, Informative)
Most civilized places already have.
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One thing that has been kept out of the discussion and lawsuits of the opioid crisis is that it exactly coincides with the change in laws that allowed direct to consumer advertising in the us.
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Have you ever seen a TV commercial for oxycodone or any other opoid? Neither have I. As a matter of fact, I've never seen an ad for any of the drugs mentioned in TFS. It's wall-to-wall psoriasis and Crohn's/IBD.
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I believe that's a short excerpt from a video used by Purdue salesmen to promote Oxycontin to physicians, not a TV commercial. This article [nih.gov] is a detailed description of Perdue's marketing methods, and there's no mention of television commercials. But I suppose I could be wrong. I'd really like to hear from someone who actually saw such a commercial on TV.
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I was not aware the drug dealers had paid trolls on websites. Learn something new every day.
Is that your standard response to anyone that tries to engage you in discussion and cites a credible source to back up a point of view that is different from your own? "Learn something new every day"? Not so much, it would seem.
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Apostrophes. They aren't difficult.
Clue: They don't mean "watch out here comes a letter 's'..."
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Exactly. Drug advertising is banned in most western countries, but USA, USA! .. down the list somewhere.
Money No.1, Peoples well being
Re:need to ban the ad's like in most palces (Score:4, Insightful)
That's just wat big tea wants you to think. They want you to ignore all the deaths caused by green tea allergy, which is a thing that CAN happen.
Re:need to ban the ad's like in most palces (Score:5, Insightful)
But then how would they dupe 67% of Americans to take the experimental mRNA clot shot
The same way they did it in the rest of the world. By providing facts and advice from actual experts who have dedicated their entire lives to the topic. In my place you could choose the vaccine you wanted, and still the very large fraction of the population wanted to have the mRNA vaccine. Some people went to ask another vaccine type, or could not get the mRNA at the time, and all later went to repeat with mRNA because the others were proven much less effective.
Let's compare:
* The West overwhelmingly vaccinated with mRNA vaccines, and now has a mild pandemic.
* China made a point in refusing the mRNA vaccine (because it came from the West) and used their own based on a more traditional vaccine approach (which we knew are not very effective against coronaviruses due to the high variability in their surface proteins), and right now half their international travellers are infected and there are serious suspicions from international authorities that China is hiding (covid) deaths by hundreds of thousands if not more.
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[...] and right now half their international travellers are infected and there are serious suspicions from international authorities that China is hiding (covid) deaths by hundreds of thousands if not more.
Nice conspiracy theory. Got any, you know, proof, to back it up?
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"The UK science data company Airfinity estimates more than two million Covid cases a day in China, and 14,700 deaths." https://www.bbc.com/news/world... [bbc.com]
I read 14700 deaths A DAY. That very quickly makes it in the hundreds of thousands.
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When 1 in 10 people who are hospitalised die in properly vaccinated countries, a reasonable estimate of 1 in 35 breaking quarentine to go to a medical post produces a similar death rate.
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No this is based on the declarations of the WHO regarding their methodology of calculation of a covid death. China is underrepresenting the situation for very objective reasons of how they report the numbers. The WHO which is always very cautious has not published numbers, so apparently a UK company calculated that.
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If China had used the J&J vaccine (even if it's not quite as good), they would not be in their current state. If they had an equally effective home-grown vaccine they would be okay. They chose an ineffective vaccine. Had they had a home-grown, ineffective mRNA vaccine they wouldn't be okay.
mRNA vs traditional is an iss
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I mean there was and is consensus among experts (scientists, doctors) that mRNA vaccines are safe and effective. Paying the world's supply in doctors and scientists to lie would be too expensive for pharmaceuticals, as rich as they can be. There is about 1 million physicians in USA (550k https://www.statista.com/topic... [statista.com] ) and EU (386k https://gateway.euro.who.int/e... [who.int] ). How much money would you accept to lie about truth and jeopardize a lucrative medical career? Why would a medical doctor accept less than
Re: need to ban the ad's like in most palces (Score:1)
The twitter files...really now? You making laugh so loud I'm gonna wake up kiddo who's sleeping
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Although you probably right that "mRNA vaccines are safe and effective", I am not saying the statement is false. Physicians do not do the research so they get told by the people who do the research so your logic is incorrect, you do not need to bribe the majority of physician, all you need to do is bribe the agencies that say its safe and effective.
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Physicians do not do the research [...] all you need to do is bribe the agencies that say its safe and effective.
That's an interesting point, but I don't see how to make it work. Pharma has to submit data, the data is either good or bad, and the agencies can only approve data that looks good. So Pharma has to either submit faithful data that looks good, or made up data that looks both good and credible. If Pharma is able to forge credible data (which is actually a difficult task), they don't need to bribe anyone. I think the argument about huge conspiracies always fail somewhere. We might discuss "Pharma is lying to t
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I mean there was and is consensus among experts (scientists, doctors) that mRNA vaccines are safe and effective.
There was consensus that Thalidomide was safe and effective, until there wasn't. There was consensus asthmatics could benefit from smoking night-shade too.
Those are examples from Not-that-long-ago, when medicine and biology were very much worlds of rigorous study and yet.. Reality is we don't have a full understanding of all the mechanisms involved so data ONLY tells us a story in the fullness of time. Are MRNA vaccines safe, the data we have says they should be. However we anecdotal evidence to the contrar
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For a good time... (Score:4, Interesting)
Marketing alone was several times R&D.
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If they're mandated, all that advertising money (multiple of R&D) can be spent on R&D. Or manufacturing instead.
Snake oil sales are (Score:1)
...an idiot tax.
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Often a taxpayer-subsidized idiot tax. So while I would be uncomfortable forbidding drug companies from advertising their effective products, I would be fine forbidding federally subsidized insurance plans from paying a lot more for marginally better drugs that are advertised. Maybe even create a discount based on the advertising spend.
(The devil is in the details which we on /. don't have to worry about. Maybe a new drug is only 5% better for most people, but significantly better for a small subset of the
tbh ... (Score:1)
... people watching tv are racing to extinction anyway ...
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My grandfather is in his 90s and has watched tv his whole life. But yeah, racing to extinction. Sure.
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In his 90's? Yeah, he's probably only got a few more years of watching. But I really think that the GP was talking about the market for TV viewers, because that's what's actually "racing to extinction". I suspect that TV viewers will continue to exist, but whether marketing to TV viewers will continue to exist as a separate market is a different question.
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If your grandfather is in his 90s, then he probably wasn't watching TV until he was in his 20s.
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Okay that's a good point. I didn't think about the fact that the TV didn't exist when he was born.
Are drugs not advertised of more therap. value? (Score:3)
It may very well be that those 70% are not a high number in comparison, and TV ads may not mean much regarding therapeutic value. Maybe even promotions of drugs that are "journalistic information", rather than commercials, have no correlation with "therapeutic value".
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According to the summary (and the article)
70 percent of prescription drugs advertised on television were rated as having "low therapeutic value," meaning they offer little benefit compared with drugs already on the market
This seems quite clear, what the 70% figure means. It's comparing new, heavily advertised drugs, to existing drugs that the new drugs purport to improve upon.
I know, I know, this is Slashdot!
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The take away from the study is that the money being spent on r&D by big pharma isn't producing new and better drugs it's just producing drugs they can make more money off of.
When you say it like that without the context of th
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According to the dumb fuck anti-vax conspiracy nuts - we should all already have been dead 2 years ago from the vaccines.
Yet here I am, fully vaccinated, still seeing anti-science fucktards like you spew baseless misinformation in every forum everywhere.
Willful stupidity seems to be quite a popular cult religion. I don't think they thought through the killing-your-own-electorate part though.
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I don't think they thought through the killing-your-own-electorate part though.
A case could certainly be made that anti-vax beliefs killed enough excess Republican voters to make a difference in some of the tightest recent mid-term races. I'm sure someone is researching the numbers as we speak.
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Yes, there have been. Check out the HCA subreddit, [reddit.com] there are multiple posts to different ones, and one claim of a lost race in Arizona as a direct result.
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It's not my job to read the NIH white papers for your ignorant ass. Coward indeed.
Wouldn't know (Score:2)
yeah right (Score:1)
Yeah, right. You're going to have a hard time convincing my wife the blue pill magic of a good regular d*cking isn't therapeutic.
Trulicity, Chantix, and Xeljanz (Score:1)
Trulicity, Chantix, and Xeljanz are the brand names of the low-performing drugs mentioned in TFS.
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Chantix always seemed like a raw deal to me. Instead of switching over to nicotine gum/patch and drawing down off that, you're switching over to some weirder chemical with more side-effects, and trying to draw down off that.
Within 6 months, 90% of Chantix users are back to smoking again. So it doesn't seem more effective than the gum, but it's definitely more expensive, and requires a doctor visit.
I quit smoking with the gum. It took a few tries, but once I was really ready to do it, it didn't take long. I
I wonder how that compares (Score:1)
I wonder how that compares to drugs that are prescribed?
US != world (Score:2)
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Yeah Brazil is doing great, isn't it!
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self-fulfilling (Score:4, Insightful)
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There are possible justifications for advertising, especially to let patients know about genuinely new treatments. Viagra is a good example. When it came out, it treated a condition for which there was no good existing drug and which a lot of patients weren't talking to their doctors about through a combination of embarrassment and belief there wasn't an effective treatment. There was a legitimate benefit to letting Pfizer advertise it, but it is the exception, not the rule.
That said, having pharma tal
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Go to a device party? Yeah, invite pretty much whomever, only one
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Well ... (Score:3)
"One explanation might be that drugs with substantial therapeutic value are likely to be recognized and prescribed without advertising, so manufacturers have greater incentive to promote drugs of lesser value," ...
Ya but I imagine heavily advertised drugs are more likely to still be on-patent and/or have higher price markups / profit margins and be of higher value to the pharmaceutical companies.
For example, Nexium was heavily advertised when it came out, but it was purportedly not much more effective than its predecessor Prilosec, which was then much less expensive as it was off-patent and available as a generic -- if I remember things correctly.
Re:Well ... (Score:4, Interesting)
Plenty of those; there's Celexa (citalopram) and Lexapro (escitalopram, literally S-citalopram), zopiclone vs eszopliclone (S-zoplicone), Prilosec (omeprazole) vs esomprezole (S-omeprazole), etc. All to give them a patented drug.
Meanwhile, the companies take literally groundbreaking drugs like sugammadex and put them behind paywalls. Nothing else works anything like it at all, and it is an absolute game-changer in anesthesia, so much so that the American Society of Anesthesiologists put out a practice guideline last month insisting that it be used in essentially all cases (it completely reverses the most common paralytic drug, and I've had to reintubate exactly one person after surgery since it became available - for a totally different reason). I'm sure the manufacturer had a hand in that, but if they had priced it at $20 a vial instead of $80, they would have completely eliminated the rest of the market from day one and made an absolute fortune. They deserve to; it's astounding. If you know a recovery room nurse, ask about it.
Anesthesia mostly relies on older drugs. We practically never have new ones come out. Unsurprisingly, we use a lot of drugs on people in day-to-day practice, and most of them have to be cheap cheap cheap because of volume. 8-10 drugs for a fairly simple anesthetic, multiplied by every surgery performed, adds up fast.
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Thanks for the interesting take and info ...
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Just how BigPharma wants it (Score:2)
Wait? I've been swindled?!?! (Score:2)
I had Doug Flutie and Frank Thomas just sell me some pills with a secret patented ingredient guaranteed to make me the most virile old guy on the planet! ARE YOU SAYING THEY LIED?!? Shit! I haven't been this annoyed since that guy "Bob" sold me those special pills that never seemed to work.
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I liked it better when the only things Doug Flutie sold were boxes of breakfast cereal for charity.
Advertising prescription drugs is ridiculous (Score:2)
Even if they completely "sell" me on the idea I want what they're pedaling? I can't even legally buy it on my own in the USA. My doctor has to write the prescription for it, and he/she would be a terrible doctor (liable for malpractice, even) for willingly writing it based simply on me asking for it.
Especially since the law seems to require disclosing the potential side effects as part of the ads, it usually negates any enthusiasm they try to drum up about taking one of them, anyway. "It might clear my skin
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People do ask their doctors about these pills. A lot of doctors will pretty much write you a prescription for anything unless the DEA has put it on the fun stuff list.
Love those commericials!!! (Score:2)
Where else can we find out about a drug that causes tons of problems but it MIGHT fix your particular problem in the mean time? Some of these drugs literally mention they may cause death but hey, we fixed that other problem, right?
It's amazing anyone buys anything from these people but then again not really.
- misleading headline - (Score:3)
better: 70% of products advertised are of low value
This covers the scope of the problem more effectively. Why are products advertised? Because they won't sell otherwise. Why won't they sell? Because they are commodities, essentially identical to other products. So you hope your brand name; Nike, Coca Cola, Under Armour, etc will sell your generic product to simple minded consumers. Or maybe you can distinguish it by color; Craftsman red, DeWalt yellow, Bosch blue, Ridged orange, etc.
In the case of drugs, ads are often needed because after a patent expires, the company brings out a new drug nearly identical to the expired one, but with a new patent and a big advert campaign to inflate the price. They are then competing with their own original product and some generic clones.
Products with a long positive reputation require less adverts. Innovative products naturally catch the eye and need less advertising.
Solution: Develop a reputation for honesty and quality. Innovate in a way that benefits consumers.
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Nike, Coca Cola, Under Armour, etc will sell your generic product to simple minded consumers. Or maybe you can distinguish it by color; Craftsman red, DeWalt yellow, Bosch blue, Ridged orange, etc.
I agree with you in a certain sense of principal but thing is none of those products do i require to extend my life or have become the necessary compoenents for some people to have a decent quality of life. All those products should engage in advertising because they operate in markets that work in the competitive sense of the matter. Pharmaceuticals and healthcare in general have so many market and demand failures built into the nature of it that we cannot apply normal capitalist rules to them.
When you t
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Or maybe you can distinguish it by color; Craftsman red, DeWalt yellow, Bosch blue, Ridged orange, etc.
I thought Milwaukee was red...
From the, "No Shit, Sherlock" Department (Score:2)
Nurofen (Score:2)
Nurofen is a widely promoted anti-inflammatory and painkiller on TV. It comes in various guises; gell capsules, tablet etc which are all the same thing - 200mg Ibuprofen
If you buy generic Ibuprofen at the pharmacy/supermarket it's less than half the price of Nurofen
Brand marketing works.
The heavier the marketing (of ANY product) (Score:3, Insightful)
The worse of a deal the product is likely to be.
Think about products that are really pushed by salespeople.
- time shares
- lottery tickets
- extended warranties
- high end smartphones
You name it. The products that are pushed the hardest, are the ones that make the most money for the seller, not the ones that are best for YOU.
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This is all true. And a product with a high profit margin is, by definition, a bad deal for the buyer and a good deal for the seller.
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This is all true. And a product with a high profit margin is, by definition, a bad deal for the buyer and a good deal for the seller.
Not "by definition". A product with a high profit margin may or may not be a good deal for the buyer, it depends on what the buyer gets out of it. If the buyer is not misled or coerced in some way, and they believe the purchase is a good value for them, then -- by definition -- it is, because there is no better arbiter of value than the buyer.
In the case under discussion it appears that people are being misled to some degree about the drugs in question. Not that what they're told is false, existing laws
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In economics theory, "efficiency" means that "every economic good is optimally allocated across production and consumption." Optimal distribution means that there is a balance between the need for the producer to make a profit, and for the consumer to reduce their costs. High profit margins are optimal for the producer, but sub-optimal for the consumer. It doesn't matter if the consumer thinks they got a good deal, because that can happen due to the consumer's lack of information. If they knew the profit ma
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You're not looking at the right "value" (Score:1)
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Never ordered/asked my PCP for TV drug (Score:2)
Whaaaaaaa? (Score:2)
You let companies advertise pharmaceuticals on TV? That's an entirely foreign concept to me, since that practice has been banned for decades in most countries in which I have lived.
I don't ask my doctor if X is right for me, I ask my doctor what's wrong and provide a qualified assessment of how to alleviate my problems.
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Prescription drug advertisements used to be banned on TV, and, IIRC, in general anywhere they were aimed at the public rather than the medical professionals. Then Ronald "the-Government-Is-the-Problem" Reagan et. al. came along and lifted the ban. And, with Nancy Reagan's influence, they also loosened the rules about claims ma
F*ck their study (Score:2)
Tofacitinib/Xeljanz keeps me halfway healthy and able to function after 15 years of progressively worsening rheumatoid arthritis. I've tried the cheap stuff - plaquenil (sun rash and sensitivity) methotrexate (daily cramps and volcanic diarrhea). They stop working after a while and you have to move on to something else. My only real complaint is how much it cost, but otherwise tofacitanib had been a wonder drug for me.
Necron69
Not my... (Score:1)
And what about my copper infused jockstrap? It's still gonna give me that rock hard bod, right?
FF (Score:2)
Which is why in any civilised country you can't advertise any prescription drug - on TV or anywhere else - except to qualified doctors and pharmacists directly only.
A Hot Chick And A Puppy! (Score:2)
You know we have more prescription drugs now
Every commercial that comes on TV is a prescription drug ad
I can't watch TV for four minutes without thinking I have five serious diseases
Like: "Do you ever wake up tired in the mornings?"
Oh my god, I have this! Write this down. Whatever it is, I have it
Half the time I don't even know what the commercial is:
There's people running in fields or flying kites or swimming in the ocean
Like: "That is the greatest disease ever. How do you get that?
That disease comes with