Nearly Half of Covid Patients Haven't Fully Recovered Months Later, Study Finds (nytimes.com) 102
A study of tens of thousands of people in Scotland found that one in 20 people who had been sick with Covid reported not recovering at all, and another four in 10 said they had not fully recovered from their infections many months later. From a report: The authors of the study, published on Wednesday in the journal Nature Communications, tried to home in on the long-term risks of Covid by comparing the frequency of symptoms in people with and without previous Covid diagnoses. People with previous symptomatic Covid infections reported certain persistent symptoms, such as breathlessness, palpitations and confusion or difficulty concentrating, at a rate roughly three times as high as uninfected people in surveys from six to 18 months later, the study found. Those patients also experienced elevated risks of more than 20 other symptoms relating to the heart, respiratory health, muscle aches, mental health and the sensory system.
The findings strengthened calls from scientists for more expansive care options for long Covid patients in the United States and elsewhere, while also offering some good news. The study did not identify greater risks of long-term problems in people with asymptomatic coronavirus infections. It also found, in a much more limited subset of participants who had been given at least one dose of Covid vaccine before their infections, that vaccination appeared to help reduce if not eliminate the risk of some long Covid symptoms. People with severe initial Covid cases were at higher risk of long-term problems, the study found.
The findings strengthened calls from scientists for more expansive care options for long Covid patients in the United States and elsewhere, while also offering some good news. The study did not identify greater risks of long-term problems in people with asymptomatic coronavirus infections. It also found, in a much more limited subset of participants who had been given at least one dose of Covid vaccine before their infections, that vaccination appeared to help reduce if not eliminate the risk of some long Covid symptoms. People with severe initial Covid cases were at higher risk of long-term problems, the study found.
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...and it's a lot easier to run after a sheep with a skirt around your waist than with pants around your ankles.
Although truly, it's now the Irish with the sheep, and the Scots have cattle... with, I shit you not, curly red hair
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I know, right? (Score:5, Funny)
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You should make that dude pay rent in your head.
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Re:Tell me age, fat levels etc before I care (Score:5, Informative)
a) That's a pretty awful attitude to begin with
b) There's little correlation so far between long covid and anything else. Women do seem more likely than men to get it, but that's the only significant correlation. There's plenty of stories of people in great shape suffering long covid - such as going from running marathons to barely being able to walk.
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So you think people who run marathons are obese and stuff themselves with junk food, do you?
Just wow. Dumber than advertised.
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There isn't a strong relation between obesity and long COVID (or COVID mortality). That was an early urban legend, since discarded.
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> Explain to me why I should care about someone who doesn't care for themselves, and costs me money through increased taxes
On that specifically, you should care because like you said the larger the problem the more it costs you, money wise among other things. So changing your culture/society where it needs it to reverse the trend is naturally something to care about.
I'm seeing the plot to a movie here (Score:2)
It will involve the deadly sins. :)
I bet I could get Kevin Spacey for a reasonable salary. lol
Re:Tell me age, fat levels etc before I care (Score:4, Insightful)
Don't waste your time replying to that piece of shit. He's just trolling, completely ignoring everything you say and simply repeating his bullshit.
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As if a ZombieCatInABox was going to supply any useful information. /sarcasm.
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6 years old, no pre-existing conditions, perfectly healthy and not even slightly overweight. Had a cough for months after having Covid as well as issues with lung capacity. Nine months later, my kiddo is doing better and running around like they should be doing at this age. Do you also believe there is rampant voter fraud?
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And your credentials for your expert medical insight are what, exactly?
Re: Tell me age, fat levels etc before I care (Score:2)
A cracker jack box
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According to my Cornflakes this morning, your anecdote is completely correct. And I always trust talking breakfast cereal.
Although the milk strongly disagreed, and we all know that talking dairy products are far more trustworthy than cereals and friends-that-may-exist spouting opinions as fact.
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Everyone I know with it didn't have prexisting (Score:5, Interesting)
In fact, the ones I know who have long-COVID were not the obviously unhealthy.
Even if you don't give a fuck about them, it's definitely worth researching to figure why. There are many fundamental things about viral infections of this nature we clearly don't know...like why it affects concentration and focus months later.
I have a relative in FL who got it early on before the vaccine and went from going to aerobics classes 3x a week to 3 months of bedrest....still is slow and lethargic as of a year ago when I saw her. She was super skinny before and kind of muscular and now is pretty chunky....just not the same person at all. I know other people in their 20s who had similar experiences. They just weren't the same person afterwards...all women...all fit.
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Even if you don't give a fuck about them,
See its not that at all. I do care about them, which is why I don't want to see them sitting around going 'boohoo I have long covid, my life can never be the same' instead of going out and doing something to get healthy/stronger/more focused whatever.
Its REALLY much easier than people think to go from good habits to bad ones after even a little setback. I know plenty of people that were stellar athletes, got injured missed a season or something and just never really got back to it. Even after there were
Re:Everyone I know with it didn't have prexisting (Score:4, Insightful)
also to reply to myself -
For the people that had severe illness, I am sure there is real psychological trauma there. Not being able to breathe is SCARY, I think its perhaps really among the most terrifying thing anyone can face!
I had asthma as kid, I remember what attacks were like and I remember the anxiety over potentially having one in situations where it could not be immediately responded too. Makes you really worry about swimming to the middle of the lake with the other kids.
So would not surprise me at all for people who suffered severe illness to be carrying around a lot of fear. Something like that could happen to them again - or worse maybe still is..
Re:Everyone I know with it didn't have prexisting (Score:5, Insightful)
So when you were a kid, how would you feel if someone like you had said to shut up, quit whining and breathe like a normal person? Would that have made you 'get over' your asthma any faster?
I ask, because that's more or less what you're doing here.
I get it, after all that saying Covid is nothing but a bad cold you feel like a braying ass when you hear of people who are suffering severe long term problems, but that's not their fault.
Re:Everyone I know with it didn't have prexisting (Score:5, Interesting)
You're entirely missing the point here.
We've got people who are so weak that they can't walk across the room. We've got people with brain fog so bad they can barely remember their names or where they live. No amount of "try harder" is going to fix that.
I've known a few people with brain fog issues. One dealt with it for a year after the infection - he couldn't remember anything and had to carry around post it notes to write everything down. Got covid a second time and went through the same thing again. Not sure how long the brain fog lasted the second time, but I don't think it was quite as bad. Another was a programmer - he couldn't handle anything even slightly out of his comfort zone. I'd try to guide him through it, but in the end I'd have to take tasks off his hands and do them for him. Stuff I've seen him do before with just a tiny bit of guidance. He got over it in a few months, but it was very obvious that something was off while I worked with him.
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You're the type of guy that tells a depressed person to cheer up, right?
Re:Everyone I know with it didn't have prexisting (Score:5, Interesting)
It seems to be quite similar to Chronic Fatigue Syndrome.
Tiredness, brain fog, aching muscles. It's horrible to live with, and there is no treatment. All you can do is treat the pain and the inevitable depression and frustration.
Like CFS, you get all the idiots saying it's not real, people are just being lazy, looking for an excuse to slack off.
Honestly a part of me hopes it is the same thing, because as much as that sucks for people who have it, at least it means there will be more research into a cure now that millions have it. I wish I didn't feel that way, but when it's bad your foggy brain looks for any way out, and sliver of optimism.
Wear a mask. You don't want to live like this.
Re:Tell me age, fat levels etc before I care (Score:5, Interesting)
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Somewhat similar here. Symptoms hit me pretty hard June 28 (2022), really only 2 days of fairly high fever. Tested positive July1, but tested negative at a hospital 7 days later. But carried fatigue and a low-grade fever for maybe 2-3 weeks. Fever finally dissipated, but have been feeling fatigue ever since. It has been getting better and better, and I'm almost back to normal now.
Not really any brain fog, as far as I can tell. No loss of smell or any other senses, and really no other symptoms that I'm
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Adding: again, none of what I would call brain fog, but definitely some kind of occasional lightheadedness. Not quite vertigo or dizzy, but just a slight disequilibrium. Again, as above, getting better and better, and pretty much not feeling the lightheadedness at all any more.
Some muscle fatigue, but I attribute that to significantly reduced activity levels.
Similar experience here - can't stop sleeping. (Score:2)
I got COVID in July. Prior to that I was doing 15k+ steps a day on average. I'm an avid runner, hiker, and swimmer. Initially my COVID symptoms were very mild. I only got tested because I was going to an event and they required a vax card or a recent test and I forgot my vax card before flying. 3-4 days after I test positive, I got unbelievable fatigue. I was probably sleeping 15 hours a day. 10 hours at night and a couple hour nap every few hours. It's been 10 weeks+ since I tested positive I don't think I've even run half mile straight and I was doing a 5k almost every morning. Even casual walks will get me drenched in sweat and I'll need to sit down for 30 minutes to recover. My average steps post COVID, are in the 5-6k range, or less then my old morning run. A few years back I had the flu, the real flu and not a cold, verified with a test, and I was out running again in 2 weeks, it sucked but I was able to slow down a little and push through. I never thought long-term symptoms were BS, but I figured people were exaggerating a bit, now not so much.
I got COVID 2 weeks ago. I was working out an hour a day, trying to maximize workouts, timing, calorie restrictions, etc. I had the Pfizer vaccine and booster. I had 2 days of 102 degree fever and then just felt kinda crappy for 2 days after my fever broke. It's now 2 weeks later and I am sleeping like 12h a day. At 4pm, I can't stop myself from sleeping. Today I had no morning meetings. I slept from 11pm to noon. I wake up, drank 6 cups of coffee, including 2 shots of espresso at 4pm, knowing I'd
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Very similar story that I wrote above. It will get better, but will take weeks, maybe months. My suggestion: sleep as much as your body requests. It's frustrating, I know, I love being very alert, active, and full of energy.
Our immune systems rebuild while we sleep, so sleep as much as you need to. When I had mono, the only cure was sleep, and that was doctor's strict orders: flat on back for a week! Not sure of your work situation, but it'd be nice if employers would allow something between full work
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There's been a lot of large scale studies coming out lately that show similar results, all with different methods of collecting data. They're all giving similar results. Rates will vary a bit, but every analysis shows we've got a large problem.
Re: Read the paper (Score:1)
In my social circle, many people spanning all ages and levels of physical activity, have gotten covid in the last year. Many dozens of friends, coworkers, family members. None show any hints of "long covid." My wife, myself, and my kids show no hints of long covid.
If the problem were anywhere as prevalent as these studies claim, I would have seen it myself given the number of people I know who have gotten covid.
If my direct observation is in conflict with the extrapolation from those studies, then one of th
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4. Your social circle knows its social circle would shame it if they admitted it, so they try to hide it.
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There's been a lot of studies similar to this in the last few weeks. Most of them seem to put long covid rates at 10-20%, but this particular one is also counting a much broader range of symptoms as long covid than the other studies I've seen.
I've had multiple people comment to me about dealing with brain fog. In one case I was working with someone suffering from it, and it was clear to both of us that it was causing problems.
This certainly doesn't prove anything, but I've had a lot of people comment to me
Re: Read the paper (Score:1)
People *are* stupider, angrier, and less willing to suppress their baser instincts. I noticed it right around when the lockdowns started.
Having the government cut the legs out from under 40 million people in a matter of weeks, refuse to let kids go to school for over a year (where I lived), closing down daycares for months and sabotaging the childcare industry to a point where it still hasn't recovered....that'll raise the temperature pretty good, even if there were no such thing as brain fog.
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4. You are saying just because you haven't experienced it or know anyone who has, its not a thing.
Re: Read the paper (Score:1)
I'm saying is that at the rates claimed in this study, it would be impossible for me not to notice it given how many people I know who've had it.
A biased sample in the study would go a long way to explaining the discrepancy without invoking lizard people or the illuminati.
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Ah, they must certainly be doing what you would consider doing...speaks volumes about your moral capacity.
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are there any differences between... (Score:2)
Are there any differences in outcomes between unvaccinated and vaccinated who've had Covid-19? What about between recipients of AstraZeneca vs BioNTech vs Johnson & Johnson vs Moderna vs Novavax vs Pfizer? I, for one, would really like to know if this is why I've felt like shit for 11 months.
Re:are there any differences between... (Score:5, Informative)
From this article [nytimes.com]:
The study did not identify greater risks of long-term problems in people with asymptomatic coronavirus infections. It also found, in a much more limited subset of participants who had been given at least one dose of Covid vaccine before their infections, that vaccination appeared to help reduce if not eliminate the risk of some long Covid symptoms.
Or, if you prefer from the study itself [nature.com]:
Compared to unvaccinated people, people vaccinated prior to symptomatic infection were less likely to report persistent change in smell (OR 0.58, 0.45â"0.76), change in taste (OR 0.61, 95% CI 0.46â"0.79), problems hearing (OR 0.60, 95% CI 0.44â"0.83), poor appetite (OR 0.72, 95% CI 0.53â"0.99), balance problems (OR 0.71, 95% CI 0.53â"0.95), confusion/difficulty concentrating (OR 0.72, 95% CI 0.58â"0.89), and anxiety/depression (OR 0.76, 95% CI 0.64â"0.92) at their latest follow-up after adjustment for potential confounders.
The study does not mention any specific vaccine to determine if there were differences.
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Vaccinated people seem to be less likely to get long covid, but most studies show that the difference isn't very big. And if you get covid more than once, the odds of long covid go up a bit.
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Vaccinated people seem to be less likely to get long covid, but most studies show that the difference isn't very big
Said as a reply to a study that said vaccination appeared to help reduce if not eliminate the risk of some long Covid symptoms.
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Vaccinated people seem to be less likely to get long covid, but most studies show that the difference isn't very big
Said as a reply to a study that said vaccination appeared to help reduce if not eliminate the risk of some long Covid symptoms.
Those statements aren't incompatible. There have been a lot of long covid studies released recently. This particular one used a broader definition of long covid than most do, and included more minor symptoms in the definition.
If you include the minor symptoms, like lingering cough, then yeah, being vaccinated helps significantly.
For the studies that limited the focus to the worst symptoms, like fatigue and brain fog, then being vaccinated improves your odds, but not by a lot.
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In that case, I will have to disagree with their findings. I've had Pfizer shots 1 and 2, and then got covid-19. That surprised me (at the time) because when I was younger, if I got a flu shot, I wouldn't get the flu. Now that I've had Pf1 and Pf2 and Covid-19, I think that Pfizer, et all should refund every penny of payment they received for these non-vaccines.
If I could get a do-over, I'd NOT get either shot and would take my chances with covid-19 because I don't think I'd be any worse off.
Re:are there any differences between... (Score:5, Informative)
I dont get what your grounds for disagreeing with it is? Personal anecdote is a completely unreliable basis for a disagreeing with a large study.
And for reference, Flu shots have a similar efficacy to Covid shots depending on how closely the guessed the dominant strains. Between 40-60% efficacy in completely preventing it and significant reductions in severity (basically from "flu" to "cold") if you get it, and significant reduction in likelyhood of passing it on. Which is pretty much the same as the current vaccines against Omicron.
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Oh, well if you heard it, it must be true, right?
Or is this another example of the "lamestream media" covering up a conspiracy-cahoots of 5G mind control developed by Bill Gates so "they" can switch votes on Chinese bamboo-fiber ballots using Italian satellites and German servers to manipulate Venezuelan voting machines with software that was compromised by Hugo Chavez from beyond the grave?
How about we try using actual scientific study instead of pulled-out-of-your-ass rumor horseshit?
Give it a few years (Score:5, Insightful)
That high blood pressure in your mid 50s? Now its' a stroke. The stroke in your 60s? Now it's a heart attack. It'll knock 10 years off life expectancy. All for the sake of a political wedge issue.
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Do you actually follow a reason path or just dump out sentences and hope they connect with one another?
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Older alt right fools have bought into Tucker Carlson's nonsense and are skipping necessary medicine. They will get sick and they will end up in the hospital. Doctors and nurses through a Herculean effort will keep them alive. They will go home thinking they made the right choice to skip the medicine because they survived.
However there are long-term complications from their hospital stay that will eventually show t
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How old are you that you consider people in there 30's to be old. There's lots of correlations showing older people are more likely to be vaccinated and careful, while it is mostly the younger who feel invincible and think the older people should huddle in their houses so they can go out and catch Covid, as it is only a flu.
They're also the ones who seem to vote right and bitch about their right to remove others rights.
Re:Give it a few years (Score:5, Insightful)
The data is pretty conclusive at this point: masking, vaccination, and social distancing did very little to statistically reduce infection rate across demographics, and vaccines only appear to have lessened the worst of the symptoms for a minority of people... similar effects which were similarly seen with ivermectin, which the FDA is finally acknowledging was probably beneficial and incorrectly stigmatized, I might add.
Link the study, or anything where the FDA is actually acknowledging anything to do with ivermectin and covid beyond "it does fuckall" or just shut the fuck up already. You don't get to just make widely debunked claims that don't match easily found and verifiable data without an appeal to expert authority included.
For example, here's a link [dukehealth.org] from Duke University showing that ivermectin does the square root of jack shit with regards to covid infection. Or here's one from the New England Journal of Medicine [nejm.org] saying you're wrong, with one of the researchers being quoted as saying "At some point it will become a waste of resources to continue studying an unpromising approach."
Stop with the ivermectin horseshit, or show even one accredited study in a reputable publication.
You can't win with horse paste trolls (Score:3)
They just want a win. Any win. They want to feel like they're winning and they don't care how or what the consequences are. Go over to YouTube and look up some videos from Innuendo Studios (bad name, great channel). In particular "The Card Says Moops".
bR. It's the same thing George Orwell
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Stop with the ivermectin horseshit, or show even one accredited study in a reputable publication.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/... [sciencedirect.com]
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Hooray, you found a scientist that agreed with you.
A study that had no way of differentiating effect of the other drugs used and Ivermectin.
Do I even need to explain the problem here?
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Hooray, you found a scientist that agreed with you.
A study that had no way of differentiating effect of the other drugs used and Ivermectin.
Do I even need to explain the problem here?
I'm personally quite fascinated with Ivermectin not in terms of whether or not it works but the reactions to it. They appear to be largely irrational across the board regardless of ones default operating assumption.
Look at your characterization a collaboration with 10 authors becomes "a scientist that agreed with you". A study that shows promising results indicative further research could be useful becomes you didn't prove anything so fuck off.
A study that had no way of differentiating effect of the other drugs used and Ivermectin.
Do I even need to explain the problem here?
The only substantive problem I'm aware of is nobody ever bothe
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The only substantive problem I'm aware of is nobody ever bothered to do the work necessary to find out whether or not Ivermectin is effective or not.
Yeah, because neither of the links provided at the top of this thread completely contradict this statement. Nor the third link given below by someone else, which I'll repeat here [cochranelibrary.com].
Good to see that you've dismissed these people's work as "nobody ever bothered to do the work necessary to find out whether or not Ivermectin is effective or not." Spoiler alert: it is not. And it's been shown over and over - QED. And as the cherry on top, the manufacturer says it's not - don't you think they'd love to sell it
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Yeah, because neither of the links provided at the top of this thread completely contradict this statement.
You are correct, they don't. The Duke study has 1600 participants between both treatment and placebo arms the average time to treatment from symptom onset is 6 days so the viral phase is mostly over and damage already done at the time treatment starts. For reference from FDA "Paxlovid treatment should be initiated as soon as possible after diagnosis of COVID-19 and within 5 days of symptom onset." and drumroll there are a whopping 10 hospitalizations in each arm. What I said about lack of statistically
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The big one would be the Cochrane review:
https://www.cochranelibrary.co... [cochranelibrary.com]
Result? Theres no evidence that Ivermectine does anything at all.
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Fox News just reported that Ivermectin is so effective at preventing COVID, they're now putting into heartworm medicine for pets!
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What kind of precautions do you really expect them to take? What is reasonable to you? Which 'medical advice' do you think their doctors are going to give them which helps?
Good medical advice, unlike the stuff you've been getting.
The data is pretty conclusive at this point: masking, vaccination, and social distancing did very little to statistically reduce infection rate across demographics, and vaccines only appear to have lessened the worst of the symptoms for a minority of people...
I don't know the state of masking / social distancing studies though the evidence largely seems to back them. As for vaccines the evidence of the effectiveness of vaccines has been massive.
They no longer provides great protection against infection but offers huge protection against severe disease, and as others have pointed out, long covid.
similar effects which were similarly seen with ivermectin, which the FDA is finally acknowledging was probably beneficial and incorrectly stigmatized, I might add.
BWHAHAHA
Though I am vaguely curious what bit of junk science/reporting makes you think Ivermectin has somehow been validated.
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From the linked study, it doesn't seem that anyone who listened to their doctor did all that much better.
Re:Long Covid is a Misnomer (Score:5, Informative)
We know the infection itself does NOT stay with the body so calling it "long covid" is a ridiculous mischaracterization . The lasting effects would just be the result of damage done while having an infection, the same way someone might have lasting effects on their body after a heart attack but you wouldn't call it suffering from "long heart attack." And now in this study they are comparing people who got a sickness against people who had no sickness. It would have made sense to compare people who got covid to say people who didn't have covid but had another disease like the flu. That way you have at least a comparable disease; it shouldn't require a study that people who got sick once already end up reporting getting sick again later more often than the people who never got sick at all.
COVID-19 = COronaVIrus Disease 2019
SARS-CoV-2 = The virus that causes COVID-19
"Long SARS-CoV-2" wouldn't make sense, but "Long COVID" seems a pretty reasonable way to describe longterm problems caused by the infection.
"Long Flu" isn't really a thing (at least not on any scale worth mentioning), so the results wouldn't be very different. The whole root of the issue here is with most common viruses, once you recover from the infection, you're good, but with COVID-19, the odds are pretty high that you'll be dealing with complications for a long time after.
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Actually in some cases long Sars-CoV-2 wouldnt be far off it. Numerous studies have demonstrated cryptic populations of the virus (unfortunately usually in heart and brain tissue, areas that tend to be no-go zones for parts of the immune response [do you REALLY want T-Cells ripping up your heart tissue or hyperthalamus or whatever) long after the primary infection is gone. This is not necessarily the case in *all* long covid, and might not even be the primary motor of the extended convalesence in the cases
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I've seen people theorize that might be happening, but I hadn't seen anything suggesting we had seen proof of it.
Either way, if that's what's happening, It's still the case that SARS-CoV-2 is the virus, COVID-19 is the disease caused by the virus, so I think the debate here would be whether "COVID" or "Long COVID" is the the more appropriate name.
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"Long Flu" isn't really a thing (at least not on any scale worth mentioning),
It probably is: post viral fatigue is a thing and can manifest after flu. The general category is "post viral syndrome" of which there are a few with fatigue and persistent cough being the most common. Post viral syndrome is poorly understood and not well studied until now, but it's not generally known how long covid differs because of the lack of study prior to covid.
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I was wondering if I'd get a reply like this...
It is a thing, but as best I can tell it's at the scale of a fraction of a percent of people that get the flu have anything you could call "long flu", and the severity doesn't seem to be as bad as long covid. Then factor in that flu cases are orders of magnitude less than covid cases. The numbers here are basically noise when looking at long covid numbers.
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I'm not trying to be pedantic or anything.
I reckon post viral fatigue is somewhat common, it just tends to be less severe (though I know someone who got a nasty bout after flu). I've noticed sometimes it can take a while to recover to full levels of energy after a moderate cold. Not always, and it's not so severe as to have a serious effect on my life but it's there.
What I mean to say, is that post viral effects are somewhat well known to exist and are probably very common, but much less severe than covid.
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What they're actually looking at is the effects of spike proteins on the body, which do not just magically go away for many people, due to one reason or another.
I know of several people who've detoxed them and have seen their symptoms disappear.
Re:Long Covid is a Misnomer (Score:5, Informative)
We know the infection itself does NOT stay with the body
No, we actually don't.
We know that the acute phase of the disease clears. We do not know if the virus can linger in various tissues. For example, one of theories about the long-term mental/nerve issues is low levels of virus in nerve tissue.
Re:Long Covid is a Misnomer (Score:5, Informative)
We know the infection itself does NOT stay with the body
No, we actually don't.
We know that the acute phase of the disease clears. We do not know if the virus can linger in various tissues. For example, one of theories about the long-term mental/nerve issues is low levels of virus in nerve tissue.
And another possible form of that could be reverse-transcription [pnas.org], where some part of the viral RNA becomes permanently part of some of your cells.
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When you get a concussion, you don't continuously get whacked in the head for the next few days, but you still have a concussion.
Selection bias? (Score:2)
Re:Selection bias? (Score:4, Informative)
There's been a bunch of long covid studies released in the last few weeks, all with different methods and data sources. The results vary depending on exactly how they define long covid, but they're generally showing 10-20% of people having long term issues. That's pretty scary for something that infects as easily as covid does.
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Sure, but in order to have that population, the condition must first exist.
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Hmm, interesting.
https://dailycaller.com/2022/0... [dailycaller.com]
Kinda lines up with what this doctor was saying about an NIH study from earlier this year. Direct link to study:
https://www.acpjournals.org/do... [acpjournals.org]
Wonder how many were not vaxed? (Score:2)
Read the study! (Score:2)
The most interesting part of the study is the regression analysis which seems to point to some major long term differences in tast
Who to believe? (Score:1)
In the other, a handful of sociopathic shitposters screeching "noooo its not real la la la i cant hear you."
Right on time (Score:2)
And in near perfect synchronization with the next wave of COVID fear porn. Good job, Slashdot
Illness Anxiety Disorder (Score:1)