SpaceX Makes History: Launches and Lands Three Rockets in 36 Hours (cbsnews.com) 160
Early this morning SpaceX tweeted video showing its deployment of a communications satellite. But the deployment was part of a historic first, reports CBS News:
SpaceX completed a record triple-header early Sunday, launching a Globalstar communications satellite from Cape Canaveral after putting a German radar satellite in orbit from California Saturday and launching 53 Starlink internet satellites Friday from the Kennedy Space Center.
The Globalstar launch capped the fastest three-flight cadence for an orbit-class rocket in modern space history as the company chalked up its 158th, 159th and 160th Falcon 9 flights in just 36 hours and 18 minutes. More than 50 launches are expected by the end of the year.
Space.com also notes another milestone: The Friday mission set a new rocket-reuse record for SpaceX; the Falcon 9 that flew it featured a first stage that already had 12 launches under its belt. (Sunday's launch was the ninth for this particular Falcon 9 first stage, according to a SpaceX mission description.)
SpaceX also tweeted footage of that rocket's liftoff and night-time landing.
Space.com also notes another milestone: The Friday mission set a new rocket-reuse record for SpaceX; the Falcon 9 that flew it featured a first stage that already had 12 launches under its belt. (Sunday's launch was the ninth for this particular Falcon 9 first stage, according to a SpaceX mission description.)
SpaceX also tweeted footage of that rocket's liftoff and night-time landing.
Next step.... (Score:2)
The next big step will be to land some humans like that.
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the reports I saw also had Tesla commenting that these folks were pressuring others to sign.
"Bullying" was claimed as one of the reasons for firing.
hawk
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Is this the same Musk who is buying Twitter because free speech? Irony meter broken.
Re: Next step.... (Score:5, Insightful)
These people are asking SpaceX to tell Elon Musk, the guy who risked his own personal fortune multiple times to keep the company afloat so without him they wouldn't even have a job, to either shut up or get fired. Then they pressured other employees to sign on with them or possibly face cancellation themselves.
The activists are the ones attempting to censor here, not Musk. This is the kind of people you're dealing with:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-en... [bbc.com]
Either you agree with them and do whatever the fuck (literally) they tell you to do, or else you get public shaming.
Fuck that shit, if anything it makes me happy that people like that would get fired, basically what happened is the opposite of what happened to James Damore.
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That story makes no sense. You get to date whoever you choose, being coerced into sex is called rape, and already dealt with in the law. Why would Lesbians feel forced to have sexual relationships with trans women...against their will? Just say you aren't interested in the person and move on, like women do to all us nerds all the time ;)
Re: Next step.... (Score:2)
⦠and if thereâ(TM)s one the Musk doesnâ(TM)t believe in, itâ(TM)s publicly hurled insults. He wonâ(TM)t tolerate that sort of behavior from high-level SpaceX professionals!
We is going to mars! (Score:2)
Just wait till starship gets going.
Just a start (Score:2)
I look forward to the day when this is not any kind of news, because we have multiple rocket launches every single day... just like we wouldn't marvel in three flights a day now.
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Headlines like "the most X in Y" or "the X since Y" are completely worthless, because "Y" is some arbitrary unit of time.
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Sorry, but for some reason humans like this kind of "score keeping" in progress. It has existed for a very long time, the "Guinness Book of Records" alone has existed since 1955 with various other organizations keeping records on a variety of subjects. One can only hope that we tend to focus on such worthwhile subjects as space access, construction, technologies, etc and a little less on things like stuffing hot-dogs down ones gullet.
History? (Score:2)
I'm pretty sure this will not end up in 8th grade US history books. It's a new first, not "history." Stop exaggerating everything.
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Today was historic because it's the first time it has ever been June 19, 2022.
Re: History? (Score:2)
Wait? Are you saying that our astromen already went to the moon and there are other sattelites besides Sputnik in orbit?
Underfunded school text book! You lie again! YOU LIIIIE!
A New Low-Bar for History (Score:2)
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Smoke and mirrors
Re: Why is Elon Musk so intelligent? (Score:2, Flamebait)
A shill for Boeing? (Score:2)
A better use would be researching by dudes like this asshat are too stupid to see achievement and see the genius behind it.
Probably a shill for Boeing or some other big aerospace company.
65 replies, but marked Off Topic! (Score:2)
Now, Sunday, June 19, 2022, 4:42 pm Pacific Time, there are 65 replies to my comment, but my comment is marked Off Topic.
My comment: Why is Elon Musk so intelligent? [slashdot.org] (Score:1, Offtopic)
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Yes I saw an old movie with a line I thought true. "Behind every rich man is a crime." And I know from personal experience at least one billionaire who made it from 2 crimes.
That is an extremely ethical billionaire. Typically it takes far far more crimes.
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Yeah total genius. Sells cars to the environmentally friendly left and takes government subsidies. Announces he’s a suddenly a conservative and now out to own the libs. Yeah conservatives aren’t exactly the biggest Tesla buyers. He just alienated most of his target buyers.
Yes, how very progressive of you idiots - continue driving your gas guzzlers because the guy who makes EVs hurt your feelings by daring to have a different opinion on politics.
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Yes, Tesla is the sole manufacturer. Nobody else sells an EV now.
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Engineering triumphs an amazing reality (Score:3)
Smoke and mirrors
Landing three rockets upright on their tail ends is pretty much the definition of **NOT** smoke and mirrors. Smoke and mirrors were the 1950s/60s scifi movies that imaged such accomplishments. Attaining such engineering triumphs is an amazing reality.
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/nation... [stuff.co.nz]
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You seem to be confused over the difference between "the money guy" and "the engineers".
You seem to be unaware of his involvement with the engineering.
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Can you elaborate?
Re:Engineering triumphs an amazing reality (Score:5, Informative)
Can you elaborate?
He has a scientific and engineering background. He is qualified to pick scientists and engineers for the team, an incredibly important task at a startup. He is qualified to be involved in engineering issues that require a decision. He has good judgement in such matters. SpaceX is sort of run like the big aerospace companies of old, back in the days when the CEO was a former engineer. When the CEO could get unfiltered information by going and talking to engineers directly. Compare Boeing of old run by former engineers and Boeing of more recent days run by CEOs with only business experience.
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Re:Engineering triumphs an amazing reality (Score:5, Informative)
Do you... do you think that Elon did that? And not say an army of scientists and engineers. Elon didn't do anything. He financed it. Which is great, but yeah, you are placing credit in the wrong place.
No. He is involved at an engineering level. If you think a CEO that is involved at an engineering level is not a significant asset I suggest you look at the Boeing of today and the Boeing of the past. The Boeing run by CEOs who were engineers and the CEOs who were merely businessmen. Musk is one of the CEOs who is also an engineer, kind of a unicorn these days.
Teams of engineers and scientists still need vision, they still need coordination, they still need someone to make the correct decisions. In short, the key to many successful enterprises is not a good idea, understanding the science, etc. It is in finding a team that can take and idea and make it reality. Plus leading that team. Musk also carefully picked his early team, he had the engineering and scientific background to do so.
Saying Musk is merely a money man simply displays ignorance.
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You could make a martini out of that one
Re: Why is Elon Musk so intelligent? (Score:2)
He's not. He's not done any of the actual work. Just a dreamer with money and the ability to get the right people working on the problem.
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Re:Why is Elon Musk so intelligent? (Score:5, Interesting)
He may not be a super-brainiac in terms of being an inventor, but the following facts are indisputable: 1. He is driven to make his vision of the future (albeit misguided politically). 2. Willing to actually work hard and do whatever it takes to make that happen. 3. Willing to get the brightest minds and focus them to work on his vision of the future.
Contrast that with most ultra-wealthy people. Note, I am not a Musk fan ever since he became ultra-right wing and ditched ideas like universal healthcare and started supporting people who don't have humanist values. I mean he endorsed DeSantis, someone who was involved in the torture of inmates at Gitmo -- that's sick.
Re: Why is Elon Musk so intelligent? (Score:2)
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Lol when you own the company you make your own title. Let’s see some drawings with his approval signature or ECN paperwork.
Idea that legal speech should not be censored (Score:3, Insightful)
Given that, we shouldn't be jumping to support his other ideas especially his endorsements of right-wing BS.
Right wing BS, the idea that legal speech should not be censored? Yeah, that's truly evil. Imagine the idea that bad ideas can simply be be publicly confronted and shown to be bad. Better to have professional sensors with superior morality [cough, cough] deciding what the public is allowed to see. Imagine having the right to do so and deciding not to exercise such power, what foolishness.
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Elon Musk: "I'm a free speech absolutist".
Also Elon Musk: SpaceX fires employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk. [nytimes.com]
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Elon Musk: "I'm a free speech absolutist".
In the "town square", which he considers twitter to effectively be.
Also Elon Musk: SpaceX fires employees involved in letter rebuking Elon Musk. [nytimes.com]
These employees were not posting to the town square on their own time. They were not contacting people at their personal email addresses to avoid disrupting work. They were sending emails using company resources and time that were disrupting other employees at work.
"[SpaceX has] terminated a number of employees involved" with the letter, she wrote. "The letter, solicitations and general process made employees feel uncomfortable, intimidat
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These employees were not posting to the town square on their own time. They were not contacting people at their personal email addresses to avoid disrupting work. They were sending emails using company resources and time that were disrupting other employees at work.
First of all, I should point out that there's no indication that the employees were not using their own time. Employees are not slaves. They get breaks and if they're at work more than eight hours they should be able to claim that time as their own. Also, most likely, they get access to company message boards when they're at home.
Further, by your logic, are people posting to Twitter using their own resources to reach people? The company message board is no less a "town square" than Twitter is. It may have s
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These employees were not posting to the town square on their own time. They were not contacting people at their personal email addresses to avoid disrupting work. They were sending emails using company resources and time that were disrupting other employees at work.
First of all, I should point out that there's no indication that the employees were not using their own time.
By sending non-work emails to coworkers and distracting them they were certainly disrupting company work. Matter of fact, it sounded spam like with repeated "nvitations".
by your logic, are people posting to Twitter using their own resources to reach people?
Most likely their own phone, and more importantly twitter is not popping up on employee desktops like email. Employees would generally ignore twitter, company emails less so, during work.
The company message board is no less a "town square" than Twitter is
Actually it seems like emails during business hours.
"[SpaceX has] terminated a number of employees involved" with the letter, she wrote. "The letter, soli
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By sending non-work emails to coworkers and distracting them they were certainly disrupting company work. Matter of fact, it sounded spam like with repeated "nvitations".
You do know that 400 employees signed on to this open letter in less than two days, right? Anyone who wanted to read it was able to. Anyone who didn't could just ignore or delete it. I don't know about your workplace, but most e-mail I get are excessive alerts I have to dig through, communications from various departments that don't apply t
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You do know that 400 employees signed on to this open letter in less than two days, right?
Irrelevant.
Anyone who wanted to read it was able to. Anyone who didn't could just ignore or delete it.
The point is they were distracted from their work, and repeatedly the by spammy redundant followup requests.
I don't know about your workplace, but most e-mail I get are excessive alerts I have to dig through, communications from various departments that don't apply to me, spam from outside vendors, ccs on things that tangentially involve my department but are not really relevant to me, etc. It takes seconds to deal with them.
And it takes many minutes to get you head back into the flow for work.
Also, employees don't have the right to add to this crap because of their personal agenda.
Creating that kind of spam might be disallowed by policy, but it is highly, highly unusual for it to be a firing offense.
True. But the spamming probably ads to it. As does intimidation and bullying some employees reported. Also note your 400 weren't fired, just a few. Those fired are probably a few problem employees who have difficulty separating th
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Irrelevant.
Not given the short period of time these messages were being sent and also the fear, uncertainty and doubt surrounding the message. I think it's pretty obvious a lot more than 400 employees wanted to sign onto the letter, but decided it was better to keep their heads down out of worries they might get fired. Now that employees have been fired, those employees are probably congratulating themselves on their foresight. You know what else some of them are probably doing: polishing up their resumes.
The point is they were distracted from their work, and repeatedly the by spammy redundant followup requests.
How many fol
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I think it's pretty obvious a lot more than 400 employees wanted to sign onto the letter, ...
Rediculous, more likely the other 11,600 employees didn't buy their nonsense and got annoyed at the continued spamming.
.... but decided it was better to keep their heads down out of worries they might get fired.
Nonsense, the 400 signers were not fired.
One of the reasons that it still has loyal employees is because many of them care about the work.
Yes, a family member worked on Apollo related stuff back in the day. It was a passion for them. Which is why they would not give a shit about the BS in the emails and be annoyed by it.
You're exaggerating the distraction potential of the communication to a massive degree.
I am taking the word of the people actually involved. SpaceX will surely be pressured to explain in greater detail, if there was not disruptive behavior they would not
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Rediculous, more likely the other 11,600 employees didn't buy their nonsense and got annoyed at the continued spamming.
Sure, that seems likely (note sarcasm). I suppose time will tell.
Nonsense, the 400 signers were not fired.
You seem to have a poor understanding of how intimidation works. Consider Vladimir Putin. He doesn't actually need to murder everyone in Russia to cow them into obedience, or imprison everyone who protests about the war, etc. Just has to make some examples to cow people into line and make them feel powerless and fearful to stick their necks out. Also, in corporations, don't you know how it works? Fire the ringleaders up front, everyone else su
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At most this kind of thing would normally get you a talking to from HR, maybe a written warning. Most companies don't want to lose good employees over one incident involving sending a non-work email using a company computer.
It's clearly the nature of the email that got them fired.
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At most this kind of thing would normally get you a talking to from HR, maybe a written warning. Most companies don't want to lose good employees over one incident involving sending a non-work email using a company computer. It's clearly the nature of the email that got them fired.
No. It is is more likely they were told why these activities were inappropriate and told to stop. The refuse. They are warned this is insubordination. The continue their refusal. They are fired for insubordination.
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Right wing BS, the idea that legal speech should not be censored?
In the news right now, engineers fired by Musk because he didn't like what they had to say about him. His credentials as a "free speech absolutist" are pretty dismal. Now, you can argue that firing people as a consequence of their free speech is not censorship, but you'll have a hard time not looking like a hypocrite if you simultaneously believe that banning people from a social media platform for repeated violations of the terms of service is censorship.
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Right wing BS, the idea that legal speech should not be censored?
In the news right now, engineers fired by Musk because he didn't like what they had to say about him.
Untrue, they were distracting and spamming other employees with emails during work hours. If you want to advocate something do it on your own time and contact people on their personal emails. Or on twitter on your own time, that's the public soapbox, not the SpaceX email system.
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Untrue, they were distracting and spamming other employees with emails during work hours. If you want to advocate something do it on your own time and contact people on their personal emails. Or on twitter on your own time, that's the public soapbox, not the SpaceX email system.
You're just equivocating and you're not very good at it. These employees were _fired_. Terminated from their jobs. Kicked out of the company altogether for what? Sending e-mails to too many people? In any normal situation, that would lead to a minor slap on the wrist by HR on behalf of IT. You would have to be nuts to think that firing would be a normal reaction to a minor abuse of internal communications systems. 90% of work e-mails are basically spam in the first place. Generally, employees are far to val
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You're just equivocating and you're not very good at it. These employees were _fired_. Terminated from their jobs. Kicked out of the company altogether for what? Sending e-mails to too many people?
For being disruptive to company business redundant spammy emails being part of the problem. There are also complaints of intimidation and harassment.
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For being disruptive to company business redundant spammy emails being part of the problem. There are also complaints of intimidation and harassment.
For some random reason - I'm not quite sure why - I'm being reminded of the Simpson's Treehouse of Horror episode "Terror at 5 1/2 Feet" where Bart Simpson sees a gremlin destroying the schoolbus from the outside and everyone things he's crazy and, at the end, he's being carted off to a mental institution while the damage to the outside of the bus is undeniable. Bart says that he saved anyone and Principal Skinner tells him something like: "Perhaps, but your behavior was still disruptive. Perhaps a lifetime
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Odd, applying Ockham's razor for me leads to the conclusion that the press release contains spin, exaggeration and falsehood. Specifically because it's a press release direct from the CEO rather than some regular company spokesperson, about the firing of some employees. Tell me, when the police in Uvalde were initially giving their version of the story there, did you apply Ockham's razor and conclude that there was nothing off about their initial version of events and they definitely were not trying to cove
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Right wing BS, the idea that legal speech should not be censored? Yeah, that's truly evil. Imagine the idea that bad ideas can simply be be publicly confronted and shown to be bad.
I'm imagining a world in which you're honest enough to admit that your idea is that corporations (which are owned by humans) should be forced to carry the speech that you think they should have to carry. Well, I'm trying to, anyway.
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Right wing BS, the idea that legal speech should not be censored? Yeah, that's truly evil. Imagine the idea that bad ideas can simply be be publicly confronted and shown to be bad.
I'm imagining a world in which you're honest enough to admit that your idea is that corporations (which are owned by humans) should be forced to carry the speech that you think they should have to carry. Well, I'm trying to, anyway.
Corporations in the news business have different responsibilities. The Supreme Court recognizes this difference, its why certain media corporations in the past were forced to provide equal time, have fairness doctrines, etc. Basically there are competing first amendment rights here, the right to speech and the right for voters to be accurately informed. A twitter seeking to be a major news source can be expected to be fair in its editorial control, SpaceX is not in that business so this extra burden does no
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Who is forcing anyone to speak? As far as I have heard, it seems you are trying to force Elon to force others to not speak, as he will be the "company" and so be able to decide what speech he is ok with Twitter carrying.
Aren't you trying to dictate to Elon what speech he can carry because you believe he should censor things you don't like?
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Uh, no .. not that. I am talking about his endorsement of psychopaths like DeSantis and others. His ditching of values that he previously supported like UBI and universal healthcare.
Perhaps in the grand tradition of John Maynard Keynes, he adapted his beliefs to new circumstances and new data. I believe he has explained his political change, try reading what he said himself.
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He claims he hasn't changed his positions though. He claims we are the ones who got more extreme when in actuality he's the one who shifted to the right.
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He claims he hasn't changed his positions though. He claims we are the ones who got more extreme when in actuality he's the one who shifted to the right.
I'd say the democratic party's shift to the left is well established and documented. It is not the party of Kennedy, nor of Carter, not even of Clinton. Its kind of questionable if Obama policies would be acceptable.
Many traditional moderate democrats that are liberal, but not radical, on social issues and conservative on defense and economic issues have left to become independents. Such traditional democrats are now pariah in their respective political offices for not falling in line with more radical i
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That doesn't excuse his endorsement of DeSantis .. as recently as 2018 Musk claimed himself to be a socialist and now he is supporting extremist right-wingers? This was Musk in 2018: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/s... [twitter.com] but now he supports DeSantis? WTF.
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That doesn't excuse his endorsement of DeSantis .. as recently as 2018 Musk claimed himself to be a socialist and now he is supporting extremist right-wingers? This was Musk in 2018: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/s... [twitter.com] but now he supports DeSantis? WTF.
Did you read your own reference? He did not claim to be a socialist. He labeled one idea he supported as a socialist idea and another idea he supported as a capitalist idea. I think Desantis thinks many essential services should be supplied by the government, police, fire, medical first responders, etc. Florida also provides health services for those who cannot afford it. What Desantis does not believe in is that government should interfere with or displace the private system that is covering those with dec
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Uh, you know as well as I do that he has on multiple occasions claimed himself to be socialist on & off twitter. For example: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/s... [twitter.com]
Do you want me to find more quotes, do they not have google access at your mental health facility?
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"In other words, leave the part of healthcare that is working alone, government should only worry about those falling through the cracks." That would be universal healthcare .. which DeSantis is firmly against.
References on DeSantis and healthcare:
https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/... [usf.edu]
In May 2017, DeSantis voted in favor of the Republicans’ American Health Care Act, an Obamacare replacement bill that would have put pre-existing condition protection in jeopardy for some patients. DeSantis also voted for the
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Uh, you know as well as I do that he has on multiple occasions claimed himself to be socialist on & off twitter. For example: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/s... [twitter.com]
Do you want me to find more quotes, do they not have google access at your mental health facility?
You are actually 2 for 2 at providing a tweet that disproves your assertion. The tweet above actually shows Musk not using the typical political left marxist inspired definition of socialism we most commonly think of. He defined socialism in the context of his tweet: "I am actually a socialist. Just not the kind that shifts resources from most productive to least productive, pretending to do good, while actually causing harm. True socialism seeks greatest good for all.".
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The premise of your argument is that he doesn't know what socialism is? That's like saying I am Santa Claus, but not the kind that brings present on Christmas Day, and lives in the North Pole. He redefined it to a null definition because he knew he used to call himself socialist and was starting to shift right at that point because he no longer needed support from leftist government programs. Remember, he claimed he "strongly supported" Obama and Hillary and even voted for Biden. He shifted to the extreme r
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The premise of your argument is that he doesn't know what socialism is?
The fact of my argument is that he provided an alternative definition of socialism.
he claimed he "strongly supported" Obama and Hillary and even voted for Biden.
All of which did not represent today's far left radicalism, nor socialism in the traditional marxist sense. Recall Biden presented himself as a moderate during the campaign. Plus in the latter two cases the alternative was Trump, many held their noses and voted for Hillary and Biden in that case.
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"In other words, leave the part of healthcare that is working alone, government should only worry about those falling through the cracks." That would be universal healthcare ..
No it is not. Does the word "universal" confuse you? Universal healthcare takes over the entirety of health case, the portion that is working for 80% of the country. It does not restrict itself to the 10% that are underinsured and the 10% that are uninsured.
References on DeSantis and healthcare: https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/... [usf.edu]
Again, your own citations prove you wrong. He accepted increased spending, increased enrollment in, a developmental disabilities program. He kept the staff of the involved agency intact. What he disapproved of was a raise for that staff. Elsewhere an inc
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Oh please. The Democrats of today are, for the most part politically where the Republicans were 30 or 40 years ago. That's more true for things like economics, immigration, etc. than social issues. Overall, if the Democrats have shifted on social issues, it's because they have become _more_ like traditional Republicans in their approach to them and their tactics in trying to achieve them.
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The Democrats of today are, for the most part politically where the Republicans were 30 or 40 years ago
As someone who turned of voting age about 40 years ago and began studying the two parties to decide which to join, I can say you are completely and thoroughly misinformed. Today's Democratic party is not even like the Democratic party of 10 years ago. Hence the decline of the Democratic party and the increase of Independents.
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The fact of my argument is that he provided an alternative definition of socialism.
Really? Is there ANY rational definition of socialism that doesn't involve shifting resources from a more "productive" group to a less productive group? By that definition healthy people shouldn't have to pay for sickly people's health. That goes against his other stated value of everyone getting healthcare. His definition doesn't fit anything reasonable -- it was intended to backpeddle and you know it.
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Dude, with DeSantis' plan:
1. A lot of low-income people will not have healthcare insurance of any kind -- because they would have been expected to pay for it themselves. That was the situation before Obamacare.
2. Others will be suckered into paying for "healthcare plans" that don't cover the essential services expected of health insurance because he refuses to establish a standard as to what a healthcare plan must cover.
3. DeSantis also made a disingenuous claim that pre-existing conditions were covered pr
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Well, that's a pretty strong assertion given completely without details. It is of course true that the parties change over time, and they're not monolithic. After all, there were still some "reformed" dixiecrats and the like around 30-40 years ago, so we could argue about it until we're blue in the face, I suppose. Still, the assertions that are constantly made in the Republican/right wing mainstream media that todays Democrats/liberals/progressives have become radically far left are absolutely ridiculous.
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The fact of my argument is that he provided an alternative definition of socialism.
Really? Is there ANY rational definition of socialism that doesn't involve ...
The fact remains that Musk provided an alternate definition of socialism, so your claim that he was a regular sort of socialist was dishonest.
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Dude, with DeSantis' plan:M
The fact remains you misrepresented DeSantis. He doesn't give you everything you want, yet the bill you cite shows that he in fact increased coverage in the public system.
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Still, the assertions that are constantly made in the Republican/right wing mainstream media that todays Democrats/liberals/progressives have become radically far left are absolutely ridiculous.
Untrue. The assertion is made in independent and moderate democrat circles too. The only deniers of the far left nature of the Democratic party are the members of the far left .
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Untrue. The assertion is made in independent and moderate democrat circles too. The only deniers of the far left nature of the Democratic party are the members of the far left .
Which just swings back around to the fact that most "moderate" Democrats are pretty much just traditional Republicans in their policies. I would ask what "far left" policies you're even talking about, but it's just not worth it.
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Untrue. The assertion is made in independent and moderate democrat circles too. The only deniers of the far left nature of the Democratic party are the members of the far left .
Which just swings back around to the fact that most "moderate" Democrats are pretty much just traditional Republicans in their policies. I would ask what "far left" policies you're even talking about, but it's just not worth it.
No, all it means is that moderate democrats, independents and republicans -- all distinct groups -- disagree with the far left. That happens when one is on the fringe, be it fringe left or fringe right.
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Dude, he literally called himself socialist, if you are right then he was being dishonest .. not me. You are saying he was clueless as to what a socialist is? What the heck, what next people proclaiming to be Atheist except they believe in God? He fucking said, "I am a socialist." Period. He placed a period at the end of that sentence. If I said "Elon Musk is not a socialist" knowing he fucking said he is a socialist .. I would be lying. I'd have to either believe that he as a grown man has no idea what so
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Shit Elon Musk says.
There's so much of it, you probably shouldn't take anything he says seriously.
A couple of weeks ago was the 10 year anniversary of him claiming in an interview that he would have people on Mars in 10 years.
Wait until he actually delivers, and watch what we actually does. Assume the rest is a mixture of BS and hopeless optimism.
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Dude, he literally called himself socialist
He literally, in the same tweet, explains that he is not what is typically thought of as socialist. And he defines what he thinks of as socialism. He is being totally open about his definition, in three short sentences of one tweet.
The misrepresentation and dishonesty is yours.
He fucking said, "I am a socialist." Period. He placed a period at the end of that sentence.
There are three sentences in that tweet. All you are doing is describing your mechanism of lying, lying by omission.
"By the way, I am actually a socialist. Just not the kind that shifts resources from most productive to least prod
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While nice in theory, the reality is that echo chambers allow really bad ideas to gain traction unchallenged. Relying on the marketplace of ideas apparently doesn't work. We have a ton of people today believing all kinds of nonsense.
Yes, and people banning anything that contradicts their brand of nonsense. Which is why you don't let people have such unfettered power.
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Elon was interviewed when the question was asked about about cold gas usage, by a youtuber.
That got Elon thinking and he improved the rocket by getting the idea from that interview. In the follow up interview, he even said it was changed and it was from the question asked in the original interview.
Random link to that recent story from google :
https://turkey.postsen.com/tec... [postsen.com]
You can find similar links to this story from the more "established" sites.
I don't find many good engineers making connections mental
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here's the meme: https://www.genolve.com/design... [genolve.com]
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Capitalism is not sentient and it's not like SpaceX doesn't make money or have billions in private investment. Every one of his companies is fully compliant in a captalist framework.
This is like saying Amazon isn't capitalist because they lost money in the first decade of existing.
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Capitalist perhaps, but it's not a meritocracy that has elevated him to the position he is in. It's his access to money.
He got started, like most billionaires, with his parent's money. Most people don't have that kind of opportunity, so we can't honestly say that Musk is the best at what he does. He may be relatively good at it compared to other billionaires, but we don't know how common that skill would be if everyone had the chances he had.
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He is more anti-leftwing than ultra-right wing. Obviously has done something right to become the richest man in the world.
And DeSantis must also be doing something right since all the former NY residents are flocking to his state. And you should support him since he is standing between Trump and the next election.
"people who don't have humanist values" Cry me a river. If you are waiting on the government to make your life better and support all your pet social equity plans than you are on a fools errand.
On
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I also find it funny that the same people (as far as I have seen), are saying that the Second Amendment isn't absolute, while claiming that Abortion, a unenumerated right, is somehow sacrosanct and should not be in any way restricted. Either rights can be restricted by states and federal government, or they cannot be.
It is unfortunate that all these innocents are being attacked because people are so lost to the propaganda of the left that they cannot even see the cognitive dissonance of claiming these two
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He didn't invent the idea of re-usable rockets.
He just made it a routine thing, before the inventor did. That too is still an amazing achievement.
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He didn't invent the idea of re-usable rockets. In fact, he didn't even have any brilliant new invention ideas. Blue Origin was going to do reusable rockets and satellite megaconstellations first, but (apparently) either couldn't hire the right people or was underfunded. Musk is not an inventor. He is good at rallying people and investors into accomplishing goals.
To be clear -- reusable rockets --- old idea that kept getting its funding pulled. For example Congress pulled funding for the DC-X after 7 successful tests because the 8th test failed when one of the landing legs didn't deploy because somebody forgot to connect a cable. Instead of allowing McDonnell Douglas to come up with a failsafe -- NASA pulled funding to favor VentureStar --- which failed because they kept doubling down on composite tanks. Also .. Musk was inspired by the Masten Aerospace VTVL concept
Methane rocket engines - Musk himself admits that he came up with that idea after seeing the Russians do successful tests with it.
Satellite Constellations for internet/communications - literally stole the idea from WorldVu/Oneweb https://spacenews.com/virgin-q... [spacenews.com]
Is Musk a genius .. yes in marketing, understanding trends, and rallying people to a cause -- not so much in science and engineering.
Yeah, sitting in an armchair and thinking up "hmmm, let's put methane instead of H2/LOX into a rocket engine" is the hard part of rocket science, actually building one and making it work is peanuts next to it, bet you think you could do it in one afternoon. Everyone could do it, and Musk is totally an idea thief. Oh, and so is NASA, because first rocket engine was built Archytas, so only he ever gets to practice rocketry, everyone else coming in after him is an idea thief.
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Russia actually built and tested methane rocket engines, the results of those tests is what got Elon Musk interested in it.
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People since Archytas have actually added new and brilliant design ideas. Archytas didn't think of pump fed methane fueled liquid rockets did he? It's about important new ideas, a few of which are listed in the comment by AC above, that can be attributed to specific people who thought them up. What aspect of the modern rocket engine did Musk invent? What thing in the engine can he say was his idea, and how significant to the operation of it was it -- how innovative was the idea?
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Yeah, sitting in an armchair and thinking up "hmmm, let's put methane instead of H2/LOX into a rocket engine" is the hard part of rocket science ...
Actually the hard part of rocket science is finding scientists and engineers that can work together as a team and build things that work. Well, at least according to a rocket scientist I know that has stuff he built sitting on the moon right now. Sitting on the moon in one piece and functional, not wreckage, that is.
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He didn't invent the idea of re-usable rockets. In fact, he didn't even have any brilliant new invention ideas. Blue Origin was going to do reusable rockets and satellite megaconstellations first, but (apparently) either couldn't hire the right people or was underfunded. Musk is not an inventor. He is good at rallying people and investors into accomplishing goals.
Your precious federal government, with all money it could print, envisioned reusable rocketry as...Space Shuttle. Solid-fuel boosters that parachuted into the sea and had to be fished out and refurbished from salt-water corrosion before every reuse. An aircraft that required a standing army of 35,000 people just to maintain a schedule of one launch every few months per vehicle.
Elon Musk didn't have that kind of money when SpaceX was a startup. So he had to come up with reusable components that would work in
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Nah. He knows the subject matter way to well to just be a band leader.
He does, but he also seems to go on drug-fueled benders a little too often to be vital to the process. I would say, for SpaceX, Musk was by and large good upper management in the sense that he knew enough about the subject matter to hire the right people and set a direction, but was also able to be hands on when needed, but hands off enough to mostly let people do their jobs. Early on, despite some ugly firing people on the spot incidents, it looks like he was also quite inspirational to many of his enginee
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His understanding of the technology is on the level of enthusiastic YouTuber. That's why he keeps making predictions that don't come true, mostly due to over-optimistic timeframes. AI seems to be a particular weakness, he consistently under-estimates the difficulty of making it for, e.g. self driving cars and humanoid robots.
Ten years ago he claimed that SpaceX would have a man on Mars in ten years. He clearly understands the issues from a bird's eye view of them, but not the detail of the engineering chall