First Woman Reported Cured of HIV After Stem Cell Transplant (reuters.com) 81
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Reuters: A U.S. patient with leukemia has become the first woman and the third person to date to be cured of HIV after receiving a stem cell transplant from a donor who was naturally resistant to the virus that causes AIDS, researchers reported on Tuesday. The case of a middle-aged woman of mixed race, presented at the Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections in Denver, is also the first involving umbilical cord blood, a newer approach that may make the treatment available to more people. Since receiving the cord blood to treat her acute myeloid leukemia -- a cancer that starts in blood-forming cells in the bone marrow -- the woman has been in remission and free of the virus for 14 months, without the need for potent HIV treatments known as antiretroviral therapy. The two prior cases occurred in males -- one white and one Latino -- who had received adult stem cells, which are more frequently used in bone marrow transplants.
"This is now the third report of a cure in this setting, and the first in a woman living with HIV," Sharon Lewin, President-Elect of the International AIDS Society, said in a statement. The case is part of a larger U.S.-backed study led by Dr. Yvonne Bryson of the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA), and Dr. Deborah Persaud of Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. It aims to follow 25 people with HIV who undergo a transplant with stem cells taken from umbilical cord blood for the treatment of cancer and other serious conditions.
"This is now the third report of a cure in this setting, and the first in a woman living with HIV," Sharon Lewin, President-Elect of the International AIDS Society, said in a statement. The case is part of a larger U.S.-backed study led by Dr. Yvonne Bryson of the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA), and Dr. Deborah Persaud of Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. It aims to follow 25 people with HIV who undergo a transplant with stem cells taken from umbilical cord blood for the treatment of cancer and other serious conditions.
Re: 'memba when stem cells were dangerous territor (Score:5, Insightful)
Haha that story is certifiably bullshit. Yes, obviously his blood would have donor DNA from cells that are derived from the transplant. That is expected and normal. Thatâ(TM)s what donor means. However there is no way his semen would replaced by the donor DNA. It might contain traces of donor DNA floating around it from dead blood/immune cells that that were derived from the donor stem cells. That cannot do anything. Sperm cells are derived from the spermatogonia of seminiferous tubules in the testis â" a bone marrow transplant of hematopoietic stem cells doesnâ(TM)t contain those cells, and even if they did (which they dont) they cannot just go there and certainly cannot establish themselves in any measurable way. Also, DNA from inside the cells of donor stem cells canâ(TM)t just migrate and transfer the entirety of their DNA into some germ cells. DNA canâ(TM)t easily waltz into a cell across the cell membrane, cytoplasm, and nucleus and even if it could (which it canâ(TM)t) it would have to kick out the existing DNA before the cell destroys itself. The closest it can do to that is fuse and form a hybridoma/synkaryon â" which is literally a fucked state btw. And events like that virtually impossible and would be super rare such that it wonâ(TM)t make any difference. There are so many shit that prevent something like that. You basically need to take a course on cellular biology, understand how cells work, how DNA works.
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Any proof? Show me the journal article. Learn science.
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Of course there's no proof. You can't alter the germline with a transplant unless you're transplanting that part of the body. It's actually very hard, which is why even something as systemic as genetic therapy doesn't alter the germline.
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You replied to a semi-scientific comment on the topic, accuse them of "hand waving", then do some of your own (embarrassingly bad) hand-waving to support your point? Fuck's sake, I wish they'd turn off AC posting. It would be nice to at least keep track of what clown we're replying to. Assuming you're the same dumb-ass that posted the original news-medical.net "article", how about you try again with some actual sources. Not ones that consider "we talked to this guy, and he said it happened" scientific ev
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Re:'memba when stem cells were dangerous territory (Score:5, Insightful)
They've been giving plenty of chances to faith heal, yet lack any confirmed or reproducible results. Time for them to pack up and GTFO.
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Sadly, there are religious people who believe that AIDS is a curse from God for sinning. I'm not sure how they reconcile things like children getting infected.
Those people are a minority, but they are sometimes very noisy.
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I'm not sure how they reconcile things like children getting infected.
The same way they square up with childhood cancer and such. "God works in mysterious ways." Or "he's testing your faith." Honestly the guy sounds like kind of a dick, to me.
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They've been giving plenty of chances to faith heal, yet lack any confirmed or reproducible results. Time for them to pack up and GTFO.
Funny how not a single "faith healer" or any of these so-called "ministers" went around hospitals performing miracles by curing people of covid.
There's a chart/meme out there (too lazy to find it) showing when the Pope said he asked "god" to make covid go away, and the subsequent rise in covid cases. The chart looks like something for a ballistic missile trajectory.
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While correlation is not causation, I think it's high time the Pope stop asking God for things. Just in case it is true. Pascal's Wager and all.
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In case anyone takes any of that seriously: stem cells can include adult stem calls from ordinary tissue samples, especially from the patient. There more than enough quite natural miscarriages to provide the tissue for transplants, and several effective treatments already use stem cells from umbilical cords.
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These days they're too busy dealing with long COVID symptoms to work themselves up to making that argument.
Times have changed.
Re: I'm unvaxxed and I don't have any "long COVID. (Score:3)
I think you need to read up on what "anecdotal evidence" is, and why it is a known fallacy.
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Anecdotal evidence is still evidence. It's far less reliable, and often quite skewed, but that's not a logical fallacy.
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It's only evidence if it denies something. The statement here would only disprove the assertion that all unvaxxed people get "long COVID". Which nobody made.
Then again, reading back the entire thread it seems nobody actually answers each other and I seem to contribute to it as well, so I'll stop here.
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It's not evidence of anything. Partly because anecdotes cannot identify cause and effect, partly because the claims are unverified and partly because it's qualitative not quantitative.
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Anecdotes can be quantitative. Anecdotes can even entirely refute the thesis, which is why people often raise them. They're _poor_ evidence and deserve skepticism, but that doesn't automatically mean they're mistaken.
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Well they had found more sources that were effective and didn't need to abort the fetuses development.
Whatever ever side you are on Abortion is still a hot topic issue, and if you are able to do your research in a way that avoids that topic, you are much better off.
Cured of HIV (Score:2, Funny)
Dies of heart attack after seeing the bill
Re: Cured of HIV (Score:1)
Are you illiterate? Have to assume so until you reply. the first woman and the third person to date to be cured of HIV
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Nope, third person cured "after receiving a stem cell transplant"; there have been a few other cures of HIV by other methods. Still far from one every few months, and still far from a general cure.
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The main thing (from what I understand) is that they went into the operation with a plan for curing AIDS, in addition to treating the leukemia.
So while yes, it isn't a general cure, it was an intentional cure.
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There are no races and everyone is mixed ethnicity unless they're San from Africa or Australian aborigines.
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AIDS is the most extreme result of HIV. The patient was cured of HIV, which by itself is not yet anywhere near so profound and which many people are surviving until a more typical death. Please don't mix them up. AIDS is _much_ harder to treat.
Some nations, such as South Africa, have 20% of their population invected with HIV. The statistics in the USA are deliberately provided in confusing formats, discussing primarily the roughly 20,000 new cases per year and ignoring the current 1.2 million HIV cases in
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They were surveying for the for the prevalence of HIV. Actually doing the survey seems the place to start, even if the numbers are discomfiting, and the study is often cited. A larger survey of medical results from around the world at https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.go... [nih.gov] also shows alarmingly high rates of HIV for transgender women worldwide, and discusses some of the reasons.
Simply because an observation fits a political model of oppression motivated prejudice that you find appealing does not make it untrue
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Quote: "...since acquired immunodeficiency is the characteristic AIDS ..."
Nope, it's not the "characteristic", it's the NAME:
Acquired InmunoDeficiency Syndrome = AIDS.
Maybe you wanted to say AIDS is the characteristic of VIH, which, to be fair, it's not a "characteristic" but a "consequence".
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"Close enough for government work" doesn't cut it after all of the patient's existing bone marrow has been nuked,
And by "close enough for government work" you mean like this [yahoo.com], right?
Government may screw up and not always be top notch, but it's amazing how when things go wrong or private industry fails, people always go to the government to fix things.
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This is more along the line of a secondary benefit. *IF* you need a marrow transplant for some reason and you also have AIDS, it makes sense to try for a match with someone with natural resistance to AIDS so you can hopefully cure both conditions at once. I suspect that a matching donor who also has resistance to AIDS is a rare thing and that is why the person in TFA is only the third such case recorded.
Kind of like type 1 diabetes is not an indication for a transplanted pancreas, but if you are diabetic AN
bone marrow transplants not a viable strategy (Score:2)
"bone marrow transplants are not a viable strategy to cure most people living with HIV", so this technique is pretty amazing but is not likely to be useful for most people with HIV or myeloid leukemia. May some things can be learned from it.
Woman of Colour (Score:1, Troll)
Not only did she identify as a woman, but she is a "middle-aged woman of mixed race", according to TFA.
Bravo! A victory in the war on Sexism and Racism!
Seriously, why the focus on sex and race in this report? I had not even heard of the first two cures. Interesting news that people can now be considered completely cured, regardless of their group identity. Is identity politics taking over medicine now?
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Seriously, why the focus on sex and race in this report?
It's all we care about anymore. In fact, you're sexist and racist for even questioning it.
Re:Woman of Colour (Score:5, Insightful)
Or perhaps because it's medically relevant. The treatment seems to work for a wide variety of human beings.
As we saw recently with COVID, sometimes race and gender are factors. Same goes for treatments. Fortunately the COVID vaccines seem to work for most people.
This is very promising news.
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I'm well aware that disease risk and best medical treatments can differ between the sexes and races.
Perhaps there is some reason why it is more difficult, or even different, to cure HIV in females?
Some medical reason for emphasising the sex? It is plausible, but was not mentioned in TFA.
I hope your implication that this was medically significant has some truth, but can you provide any evidence? I fear you are grasping at straws.
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To be anal about it, it would have been nice for the article to delve into why sex and race is relevant here. I think it is never the reader's job to go hunting for this info.
Where even to begin? It's a pretty abstract question that I am willing to bet money on Google not being able to deal with.
Your assumption that your parent poster is is just trying to cement his bias is just as biased.
The both ofmyou stand on different sides of the discussion. He is fed up with the woke narrative to the point of annoyan
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Re: Woman of Colour (Score:2)
You seem to be incapable of understanding the irony that "doing your own research" which for antivaxxers means going to the website that confirms their ideas.
The ad was targeted to people that understand this.
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Don't do your own research, kids. Trust the experts. Don't learn something.
I'd have to make the assumption that Bacon was under the impression that OP was intelligent enough to understand that watching YouTube videos isn't "research". That's a dangerous assumption, but maybe they still have some faith left in humanity.
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While your statement is true, it is completely irrelevant. It has been known for decades that there is no statistical differences between outcomes of HIV patients that are based on race, gender, etc..
The only differentiating factor for HIV outcomes is wealth. Those who have more wealth live longer than those who have less. Now, you can say that people of non-white race are more likely to have less wealth, and you would be right, but that would not make race the primary cause of decreased life with HIV. It i
Re: Woman of Colour (Score:2)
Nice one for r/SelfAwarewolves
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I expect someone to shout at you about using "gender" instead of "sex" to refer to biological distinctions.
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Does not say if she is very wealthy or not, but if she isn't then she has overcome the three biggest barriers to getting leading edge treatments in many places. Otherwise only two.
Did you seriously just say that sex and skin colour can be barriers for rich people betting medical care in the US? What are you smoking?
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Re: Woman of Colour (Score:2)
Are you trying for irony, or is your argument just a mishmash of words? I'm honestly not sure.
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It's pretty telling that you think race/sex was mentioned for political reasons, rather than the fact that it's medically relevant. Especially since those that seem to be most ruffled by all this "identity politics" stuff are the quickest to point out that sex is a biological thing.
It is pretty telling that you resort to a personal attack, rather than trying to address the genuine question. Medical relevance is plausible, but never mentioned in the article.
CCR5? (Score:2)
see thats what i always wanted the money for (Score:1)
- move out of belgium with my cats
- stemcell therapy
- longevity vaccine / clinical immortality
- ticket to a house on mars
they fucked it - i should think "snickers" and a cola
Stemcells from my wisdom teeth? (Score:2)
Always figured dentist types want your wisdom teeth out sooo ooo bad b/c they must get paid $$$$ for the stem cells. Am I right or just living in my own world here?