Impossible Foods To Launch Meatless Pork In US, Hong Kong and Singapore (cnbc.com) 143
Impossible Foods' latest meatless product is set to hit tables from Thursday: plant-based pork that claims to be tastier and healthier than the real deal. CNBC reports: The ground pork product will first be available in restaurants in the U.S., Hong Kong and Singapore, with further plans for retail expansion in those markets in the coming months. It marks the California-based company's third commercial launch after ground beef and chicken nuggets as it seeks to solidify its position in the growing plant-based protein space.
Speaking in a first-on interview ahead of the launch, Impossible Foods' president Dennis Woodside told CNBC's "Squawk Box Asia" that the pork alternative could beat the real deal in both taste and nutritional value. "Pig typically isn't regarded as a healthy product, but here you have a substitute that tastes just as good but is actually better for you," he said. According to the company, the product -- which is made primarily from soy -- provides the same amount of protein as its traditional meat counterpart, but with no cholesterol, one-third less saturated fat, and far fewer calories. Meantime, in a recent blind taste test conducted by Impossible Foods, it found that the majority (54%) of Hong Kong consumers said they preferred the meatless pork product.
Speaking in a first-on interview ahead of the launch, Impossible Foods' president Dennis Woodside told CNBC's "Squawk Box Asia" that the pork alternative could beat the real deal in both taste and nutritional value. "Pig typically isn't regarded as a healthy product, but here you have a substitute that tastes just as good but is actually better for you," he said. According to the company, the product -- which is made primarily from soy -- provides the same amount of protein as its traditional meat counterpart, but with no cholesterol, one-third less saturated fat, and far fewer calories. Meantime, in a recent blind taste test conducted by Impossible Foods, it found that the majority (54%) of Hong Kong consumers said they preferred the meatless pork product.
false claims (Score:2, Interesting)
can't be protein complete as meat is if it's soy based, and will be lacking nutrients meat has. Less fat and less calories are both negatives, fat is good in diet, eating "low fat" food is a mistake if you want to either exercise or lose weight.
It's fine if you want to be vegetarian, but it's not as healthy. That's unnatural and not what humans are supposed to do.
Re:false claims (Score:5, Funny)
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You might even get a jump on the coming meat based soy bacon substitute market, if you use a flavorful enough meat product.
Re:false claims (Score:4, Funny)
You had me at meat-based.
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are you going to offer a subscription-based thing? you know, regularly scheduled deliveries?
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Re:false claims (Score:5, Insightful)
It's likely that aside from the soy, they artificially add other substances to it in order to achieve the desired numbers.
I personally have a problem with it being labelled "meatless pork"... If it's meatless, then it's not pork. It's "blended soy and chemical powders" etc. I like to know what i'm eating.
There are many vegetarians who will deliberately mislead you into thinking you're actually getting meat because they want to say "look you ate it!" and try to push their dietary choices on you.
I'm quite happy to try new foods, but i fully expect you to be honest and open about what exactly they contain. Those who deliberately lie or mislead to promote their agenda are untrustworthy. Such behaviour makes you wonder what else they're hiding and tends to turn people against their cause who would otherwise have been neutral.
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What are your thoughts on almond milk and oat milk?
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Gross and double gross. Why not just call it almond drink and soy drink when it's not milk at all and tastes nothing like it?
Re:false claims (Score:5, Insightful)
The white liquid from coconuts has been called "milk" for centuries.
The Chinese word for milk is "nai". They have used the terms "niu nai" (cow milk) and "dou nai" (soybean milk) for over a thousand years.
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Neither of them are particularly good, though I've found unsweetened cashew milk to be pretty good. I like the taste of actual cow's milk better, (and even then, only 2% or whole milk) but because I rarely drink milk I end up throwing away even small cartons of it due to spoilage. Cashew milk on the other hand takes a very long time to spoil, and it's good enough.
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As a Newtonian, I'm still trying to quell my rage over reactionless drives.
Your vegetarian friends are assholes (Score:5, Insightful)
There are many vegetarians who will deliberately mislead you into thinking you're actually getting meat because they want to say "look you ate it!" and try to push their dietary choices on you.
Get new friends dude! What kind of asshole tries to trick you into eating something you wouldn't otherwise? If you did the reverse you'd be a total piece of shit. Can you imagine tricking someone keeping Kosher or Halal into eating bacon? Tricking a meat eater into eating soy is not heinous, but kind of assholish and disrespectful. I hope they're otherwise good friends. If someone did that to me, I'd be evaluating my friendship with them.
Also, people who push their dietary restrictions on you are total assholes. I don't know anyone like that. Most people I know are vegetarians because I work with a lot of Indians as well as Jews who keep Kosher (easier for some to be vegan than explain to everyone the Kosher rules) and yup, living in a deep blue area, we got some pretentious douches with their vegetarianism, but they have never once tried to persuade me to eat differently, maybe a 19yo dipshit here and there in college, but no real adults do that shit where I'm from.
It's just disrespectful. I fully respect people's dietary restrictions and even try to accommodate them when they visit...you're gluten free?...OK, I'll go buy some side dishes in the gluten free aisle. Vegetarian? OK, we're grilling veggies. In return, my friends with religious or weirdo diets respect my omnivorism and general lack of standards of what I will eat. They never shame me when we go to a restaurant and I eat the porkiest thing I can find. What you've described is not a typical vegetarian thing, in my experience. I think you got unlucky with your vegetarian friends.
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Well i never said they were friends, i have worked with at least 2 people like this who deliberately try to trick or pressure meat eaters into not eating meat and to unknowingly eat meat substitutes.
Neither myself nor anyone else i'm aware of has ever attempted to trick them into eating meat. We've always gone out of our way to ensure that group meals we have together are in places able to cater to the dietary requirements of everyone in the group - something which can be quite difficult at times especially
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Well yes, they try to trick so its the intent that matters.
You're not fooled, but out of politeness you say "its ok", and it might taste reasonable for what it is but its not great either. And yeah, usually so loaded up with sauce or spices to hide the taste.
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There are many vegetarians who will deliberately mislead you into thinking you're actually getting meat because they want to say "look you ate it!" and try to push their dietary choices on you.
Get new friends dude! What kind of asshole tries to trick you into eating something you wouldn't otherwise?
Why would an omnivore feel tricked if they get served soy based "meat"?
I have no moral or religious rules that says I need to eat meat at every meal, or that I can not eat "soy meat".
And I would think most vegetarians at most do "lying by omission", so you trick yourself because you have limited expectations.
I assume it's mostly things like "Pasta Bolognese" and you assume it has meat in it, but they use minced soy meat or something like that.
But if you ask what's in it and they flat out lie, then they are
You answered your own question (Score:2)
There are many vegetarians who will deliberately mislead you into thinking you're actually getting meat because they want to say "look you ate it!" and try to push their dietary choices on you.
Get new friends dude! What kind of asshole tries to trick you into eating something you wouldn't otherwise?
Why would an omnivore feel tricked if they get served soy based "meat"? I have no moral or religious rules that says I need to eat meat at every meal, or that I can not eat "soy meat".
And I would think most vegetarians at most do "lying by omission", so you trick yourself because you have limited expectations. I assume it's mostly things like "Pasta Bolognese" and you assume it has meat in it, but they use minced soy meat or something like that.
But if you ask what's in it and they flat out lie, then they are assholes. But anyone who turns down food just because it has no meat in it, without even trying it, is kind of a dick too, and also a fool because they are going to miss out on some good dishes.
If they affirmatively tell you it's one thing, but it's another, that's the dick move. And yes, if you tell me it's a hamburger, I think you do have an ethical obligation to let me know what's in it if it's not a default hamburger.
Some people do have soy allergies. I don't but I notice I feel like absolute shit when I eat a large quantity of soy product. I don't think people are supposed to eat huge quantities of processed soy products. A little tofu is harmless, but a large serving and I just feel
sounds logical, just doesn't match my experience (Score:2)
The whole point behind vegetarianism is that they're not cruel monsters who kill and eat defenseless animals. It's a moral stand. They're morally superior to meat eaters and rarely pass up an opportunity to tell us so. This sort of thought is all over the vegan community and I am astonished you are not familiar with it.
You're mistaken on the first part. Most of India is vegetarian. It's a cultural and religious thing for them. It's similar to how table wine is normal in Italy, but kind of weird in most US households to pull out a bottle of wine for a quick Tues supper of leftovers. Even most Indians I know and work with who will eat meat think of it as a special occasion, like when a typical American household serves wine with food...for those special meals with company and you get out your nice glasses. Italians wi
The only moral superiority I see... (Score:2)
What a stellar defense of morally superior pricks who never miss an opportunity tell us that we're morally wrong. You could write speeches for Harvey Weinstein, who used to take great pleasure in telling everyone how moral Hollywood is and how that qualifies them to lecture the rest of us. Well done.
..is coming from you, dude. Are these vegans oppressing you actually real or just on Twitter...or you read about online? We can make up whatever shit we want in our head. However, I don't personally know a single vegan over 30. Sure, they're out there, but I never encounter them...or maybe they're vegan and just not pretentious so I have no clue because they're just doing their thing and not bothering others.
I have many problems in the world and dealing with pretentious vegans is not in the top 100.
Re: false claims (Score:3)
"chemical powders" wtf, is this Slashdot or NaturalNews?
The food doesn't have a memory of where it came from. To the degree "processed food" is unhealthy, it's because of what the processing adds or leaves in. It's to some degree reasonable for a vegan to care whether something was once a pig. It is not reasonable for you to care about whether the nutrients in your food once was a powder.
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by european recent legislation it would actually be **illegal** to call this kind of product "pork". Because it isn't.
Re:false claims (Score:4, Interesting)
Do you really know what is in your pork though? Do they list all the hormones and medications that the pig was given and which are now in its flesh?
I'm happy with meatless pork and similar terms. It clearly states that it's not really meat, but is designed to be similar in taste and texture to meat.
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I'm happy with meatless pork and similar terms. It clearly states that it's not really meat, but is designed to be similar in taste and texture to meat.
Stating that clearly would be "meatless pork substitute"
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Meh, there are loads of other similar things already. Chicken of the sea, coconut milk, the half a dozen things we call melons... In the UK most of what is sold as "ice cream" isn't.
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In the UK most of what is sold as "ice cream" isn't.
Well, that's stupid. But then, the UK is stupid *cough*brexit*cough*
The US is also stupid with our deck chair rearrangement schemes, mind you
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I can't argue with that, the UK failed it's collective IQ test by a narrow margin and is now just a joke country. The first in the world to declare sanctions on itself.
If it had just been one isolated mistake we might have recovered, but it was the series of idiotic decisions that followed that really destroyed our credibility.
Sorry you had to host Boris Johnson too, by the way. The lies must have given you flashbacks to Trump.
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Sorry you had to host Boris Johnson too, by the way. The lies must have given you flashbacks to Trump.
Well, we still have Trump. He may not be president but he's a political figure now. Meanwhile Boris' commentary on the state of AGW (the only part of his speech that I heard) was probably the most sensible thing I've ever heard him say, the bit about being sweet sixteen and so on. I mean he did ramble about some nonsensical shit in the bargain as well but he's dead on about how we have our hands on the dangerous toys.
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Do you really know what is in your pork though? Do they list all the hormones and medications that the pig was given and which are now in its flesh?
I'm happy with meatless pork and similar terms. It clearly states that it's not really meat, but is designed to be similar in taste and texture to meat.
Then it should say 'Meatless Pork Flavored Substitute'
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I personally have a problem with it being labelled "meatless pork"... If it's meatless, then it's not pork. It's "blended soy and chemical powders" etc. I like to know what i'm eating
It's imitating pork so of course pork is part of the name. Do you get all hot and bothered over imitation crab sold at grocery stores. "Heavens it's not real crab just like the damn label says!" How about artificial sweeteners. "Heavens some one could confuse those for natural sweeteners". Yeah if they're retarded.
I mean the fact that it's not real pork is literally right there in the name. Meatless pork. It's incredibly clear branding.
There are many vegetarians who will deliberately mislead you into thinking you're actually getting meat because they want to say "look you ate it!" and try to push their dietary choices on you.
What flamebait nonsense is this? I hang out with plenty of vegans / vege
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How about, call it what it fucking is.
And I'm telling you they are, it's fucking fake pork and that's exactly how they're branding it. In the context of substitute or imitation products it is and always has been quite normal to use the name of what is being substituted or imitated in the branding along with a modifier like "faux" or in this case "meatless" which very effectively informs the consumer that it is not the real deal. I'm sorry that in this individual case you find yourself upset at how the world works but what you're complaining abo
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No, I see "meatless pork" and my brain tells me it's a fucking scam.
Well your brain is telling you something stupid then because you essentially just told me "No I don't find that branding confusing" while at the same time telling me it's a scam. It's one or the other guy, if it's not fooling anyone it's not a fucking scam.
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I'm fully with you on this one.
My problem with all these meat substitutes is how horribly their labeled. Impossible meats aren't meats at all. Why not label them "plant based meat substitutes?" if you have to make them at all.
I enjoy a varied diet, and will happily try vegan foods as a supplement to my omnivorous ways, but I'd like to see some of this effort put into making plants tasty in their own way. I'm far more interested in the vat grown meats that are actually meats than I am in trying to pour en
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Oh yeah americans really need more fat in their diets. https://loginportal.funnyjunk.... [funnyjunk.com]
Re:false claims (Score:5, Informative)
Nope, you''re buying into the hype and confusion of "low fat" which is deadly mistake.
Those women have insulin resistance from keep blood sugar high with starches and sugars. Eating fat isn't the problem there, carbs are.
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It was a joke.
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sure but I like opportunity to warn about the "lowfat" food craze ongoing since the 1970s, that big lie part of producing those land whales.
You actually want to be getting a third or more of your calories from fat.
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You actually want to be getting a third or more of your calories from fat.
You can do that with fried butter [wikipedia.org].
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...sugar to make things taste good, and that is when heart disease and obesity skyrocketed.
That is not exactly correct. there wasn't much of an obesity problem before the 1970's even though there were tons of sodas, ice creams, and other popular candies and sweets everywhere. At the time they all used common table sugar, aka sucrose, which is still the most common sweetener in the world..
So, what happened in the 1970's that changed things?
High Fructose Corn Syrup [wikipedia.org] happened.
Not to be confused with normal corn syrup HFCS is a processed sweetener made from not very sweet normal corn syrup. The p
Other countries getting fatter without HFCS (Score:2)
To be fair other countries like the UK are creeping up on us in terms of obesity and they don't use high fructose corn syrup in anything I know of.
I'm not saying HFCS is great or anything but blaming American obesity exclusively on that is way too narrow of a view. For instance our increasingly sedentary lifestyle was ramping right around the same time period and that certainly feeds into this
Re: false claims (Score:2)
There was more social cohesion and control, school fitness programs a little more punishing too.
Social control can accomplish a lot, see Japan.
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The majority of HFCS is barely more fructose-laden than table sugar. The fructose balance literally can not be responsible. If HFCS is the cause, it's not because it has more fructose than sugar does. It's because it's being used to sub out vegetable oil in highly processed foods to improve shelf stability.
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HFCS was substituted in a lot of things because sugar was demonized as a health problem back then as well. The 60's and 70's saw a proliferation of groups trying to interfere in people's life to attempt to "do away with the social ills", thus you had people like Greenpeace that are still promoting to date that nuclear is a bad thing, while the suppression of nuclear energy resulted in the massive demand for oil/gas since, you had people saying fats and sugars were bad, resulting in HFCS replacing both of them, you had people saying that male/female relations were unbalanced resulting in mass single motherhood and resulting social instability, especially amongst the poor.
And yes, some of them may have a point, but driving them to their ultimate end goal by legislation instead of natural market and societal pressures has ill effects.
HFCS was used because it is much cheaper and more versatile than sugar / glucose / fructose
Re: false claims (Score:2)
Poor people have been eating starch dominant diets long before refined sugar got cheap.
Just because sugared soda is probably the single greatest cause of loss of life due to diet is no reason to put on blinders to history and go full ketard.
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Not necessarily. There is stuff added to it. For sure the heme protein to give it the meat flavor.
I had one of the burgers at a picnic a couple of weeks ago. I was pretty surprised at how good it tastes. Not my ideal, but tasty in a different way, sort of like when you get a burger in another country.
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Soy is a complete protein. Anyway, surely people who eat "Impossible Pork" aren't using it as the sole source of protein in their diet, so who cares.
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can't be protein complete as meat is if it's soy based, and will be lacking nutrients meat has. Less fat and less calories are both negatives, fat is good in diet, eating "low fat" food is a mistake if you want to either exercise or lose weight.
It's fine if you want to be vegetarian, but it's not as healthy. That's unnatural and not what humans are supposed to do.
That's true, but we only need tiny amounts of real meat in our diet.
These products mean we can cram our mouths with meaty snacks all day long with none of the health issues or planetary destruction that normally goes with that. Twice a week? The real thing.
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That's unnatural and not what humans are supposed to do.
I think in every discussion on the topic this is the most underrated aspect.
"Meat" is not only "tasty and smells like burger", it also contains stuff that actually made is the smartest ape on the block. Vegetarian/vegans are not tired to express that "you can have it all without meat", but of the people I know have made blood tests after many years of vegan diet (e.g. in order to prepare for pregnancy), most will have deficiency in all or almost all essential aminoacids.
Meat eaters have deficiencies, too, b
Re: false claims (Score:2)
I wonder where this meme came from that soy isn't "protein complete". It contains all the 9 amino acids the human body needs but can't synthesize.
It even contains the one amino acid humans can synthesize but dogs can't, arginine. So it's even complete for dogs.
(It does not contain taurine, though, which cats need. I believe veterinarians still do not recommend feeding your cats on a diet of soy and red bull).
As for it not being natural, computers aren't natural either, buddy. Maybe you're in the wrong place
Re: false claims (Score:2)
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can't be protein complete as meat is if it's soy based,
False. Wikipedia says (with cites) [wikipedia.org]: Soybean protein is a complete protein since it provides all of the essential amino acids for human nutrition.
That's unnatural and not what humans are supposed to do.
Bullshit. Nothing we do is natural. I bet you happily suck down a fucking 2 litre bottle of Mountain Dew, or eat twinkies, or McDs or 7-11 hotdogs or the plethora of artificial & highly processed foods common to modern western diets.
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All I know about eating soy is that if I eat any significant amount of soy products by accident it wrecks my digestion and makes me feel like shit. I simply can't digest soy. It's not the taste, or the texture, or any of that, I can not notice it at all and eating it still makes me ill.
I seem to be able to better tolerate tempeh than tofu, FWIW
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"can't be protein complete as meat is if it's soy based, and will be lacking nutrients meat has. Less fat and less calories are both negatives,"
They have as much fat and salt than the original, just like the fake beef, your arteries will explode with both variants.
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Question (Score:2)
Is "Impossible" pork kosher? Halal?
Re: Question (Score:3)
It's haram for plant-based muslims. For real ones...who know?
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Answering my own question [cnet.com]
Not if it is still called pork, apparently.
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This isn't true - at least for kosher goods. You can call a fake meat product "pork" and have it supervised as kosher. Morningstar made a veggie pulled pork that was marked as kosher. I've never tried it so I can't vouch for how good it is (and it looks like it might have been discontinued), but it was available and was marked kosher.
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Maybe they will allow "pulled pork" but not just "pork"
The world is a lumpy place and religion doesn't make any actual sense anyway, additional inconsistency doesn't change anything
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I believe you but from the CNET article:
It's worth noting that while Impossible Pork was originally designed for halal and kosher certification, the company now says it isn't moving forward with those certifications "as we wish to continue to use the term 'pork' in our product name," and "the authorizing bodies will not certify a product called 'pork.'"
Maybe Impossible has to go certification shopping.
What? (Score:2)
What? Where are you getting that from in the article? I even clicked on the link within your posted article that went into depth about the Halal thing and I cant find a single comment about it being impossible for fake pork to be Halal. Meanwhile the article states multiple times that the Impossible brand is seeking Halal certification for their product. Seems like they wouldnt seek certification for such a thing if their product wasn't Halal.
The closest I see is in the linked to article from your own poste
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From the CNET article:
It's worth noting that while Impossible Pork was originally designed for halal and kosher certification, the company now says it isn't moving forward with those certifications "as we wish to continue to use the term 'pork' in our product name," and "the authorizing bodies will not certify a product called 'pork.'"
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Ha, damn missed that. Thank you or the clarification.
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No sweat. My bad for not including the actual quote. Too lazy.
These religious/cult edicts are a bit bizarre at best. While working in North Africa, I asked an Imam about Ramadan fasting from dawn to dusk. Specifically, what does a good Muslim do if stationed in the high Arctic during a period of 24hr day or night? Totally flummoxed him. He insisted that if you weren't ill you would have to follow the rules of fasting.
Don't forget the Kosher and Hallal Bacon market (Score:2)
Re: Don't forget the Kosher and Hallal Bacon marke (Score:2)
Yeah...turkey bacon is where it's at. I don't even keep kosher and I like it more than pork.
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I've been eating kosher Morningstar "fakin' bacon" for years.
Fucking fake shit (Score:3, Insightful)
Calling it "pork" is a lie and "meatless meat" is insulting to the intellect.
Re: Fucking fake shit (Score:2)
If the name makes you confused about what this is, I'm OK with insulting your intellect.
And if you think it's worth making a stink about, I will insult your sense of priorities as well.
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Boy, imitation crab must really get to you. How about flightless birds, do you rage at the penguins at the zoo? Or wait, how about artificial sweeteners, they're sweet like sugar but aren't! What lies and deceit!
Get over yourself man.
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Boy, imitation crab must really get to you.
That, sir, is a stupid fucking argument. Clearly you were triggered there, and turned off your brain. Imitation crab is labeled as such, or as krab. There's no reason to be offended because it says right on the package that it's not real crab.
Get over yourself man.
Here's a nickel, kid, rent yourself a decent opinion.
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That, sir, is a stupid fucking argument.
No it's not. I'm illustrating that we use a product's name in imitation versions of it in all sorts of scenarios.
Clearly you were triggered there, and turned off your brain.
Heh, no other way around here pal. The anti faux meat crowd has been triggered as they always are whenever slashdot posts an article about the stuff. Every. Single. Time. You get people crying "that's not real meat" when the fact that it's not real meat is right there in the stupid name. "Meatless Pork". It's a food item that imitates pork but is not. How on earth is that name not completely clea
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Also, you're full of shit about the "k" in crab used to denote fake crab https://www.amazon.com/Best-Se... [amazon.com] . I'm sure some companies do that but it's hardly universal. I know I've never seen fake crab done with a "k".
This is just me... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Exactly - too bad Mission Impossible thus never got a sequel or six... :P
Hooray! (Score:2)
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That's impossible (Score:2)
"actually better for you"... just like trans fats (Score:4, Insightful)
We've been down this road before more than once. Industrial Food came up with trans-fats as a way to save us from those nasty animal fats. And it turns out they were killing us all along.
Then they'd save us from all the fats by loading foods up with sugar and salt. And it turns out they were killing us all along.
No thanks, Impossible.. I'll pass.
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Two bad food things happened before, so therefore everything that has to do with food is bad?
People stopped drinking water from natural well water contaminated with too much lead or arsenic. People started refrigerating their food to keep it from spoiling. For every bad food technology there's been dozens of good ones that you don't even think of because they're so ubiquitous.
Re:"actually better for you"... just like trans fa (Score:5, Interesting)
People also stopped eating pork in various parts of the world, probably because pigs are very similar to humans and can carry many of the same dangerous organisms. It's why we cook it well, even if we do eat it.
Not today (Score:2)
To be fair modern pork production in the US is incredibly clean. Have you ever heard of an American getting Trichinosis from under cooked pork? Pork as a "dirty" meat is not a modern first world problem.
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Germany tests (or at least used to) every pig for trichinosis before slaughter.
Trichinosis can infect any ominvore or carnivore.
The Other White "Meat" (Score:2)
There's gotta be a better joke than my attempt in here somewhere.
real pork (Score:3)
Pork used to taste very differently than it does to day. It had a high fat content and would cook up tender, juicy and richly flavored. When the fitness craze hit America and people started switching from the originally fatty and flavorful pork to lean chicken. The pork industry responded to this by creating a breed of hog that has 60% less fat than their tasty predecessors of ages past. This change also resulted in pork losing a lot of it's flavor Best summed up by Alton Brown when he said of the modern pork cut "cook it just so, it tastes chicken:"
All that said I doubt this "meatless pork" will taste anything like real pork ever did. Might be good for a cheap filler for casseroles and sausages but it will never match a real pork chop.
Science says "no" to mass-production (Score:2)
How cultivated meat is going to always be very expensive and difficult (likely impossible) to make, tends to require products from actual animals, and can never be as cheap as meat from a farm: https://thecounter.org/lab-gro... [thecounter.org]
Remember, growing a lot of animal cells isn't new - and it's so expensive and difficult that it is only practical for making very valuable things like vaccines.
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It's not meat at all, it's just plants. So... wat?
"Better?" (Score:3)
Let's look a little more carefully. The mission statement of Impossible Foods is "We’re on a mission to save meat, and earth." Nothing in there about making good food, or food that is good for people. In fairness you can make an argument that people are in the way of saving meat and the planet, so feeding them awful stuff that isn't particularly healthy and causes them to lose the will to live could be considered 'on mission.'
A Burger King Whopper is healthier than a Burger King Impossible Whopper. Neither will win any prizes of course. My very limited exposure to Impossible Food product has been unpleasant. They taste pretty awful. The salt content is enough to make your tongue curl up and going looking for a dark, quiet place to lie down for a week or two.
When I eat vegetables, I'm going to eat vegetables that taste like vegetables, not some chemical paste that strives to substitute for something else and fails miserably.
There's always Soylent Green.
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What's the end goal? (Score:2)
Can they produce enough to feed billions of people every day, also what's the environmental impact of that level of production compared to raising pigs?
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what's the environmental impact of that level of production compared to raising pigs?
In the worst case of pig-raising, the fake meat is probably less impactful, especially given how insufficiently treated pigshit is commonly just flushed into rivers... which is fucking stupid because the sludge is valuable as fertilizer, and while it decomposes it produces methane which is also valuable. In the best case the pigs are much better because they can eat all kinds of scraps nothing else will eat... hell, they can live on human feces.
How much $$ (Score:2)
Oh .. the hypocrisy of it all ... (Score:2)
Now, all of the sudden, the same people are telling us we can disregard that in this one instance and eat a product that is mass produced, highly processed, and chock full of fat and sodium. Cargill and Monsanto evil, Impossible foods good. Thanks to the evils of marketing and PR.
I'll continue to buy real pork and cook it in a real smok
More phytoestrogens please! (Score:2)
Soy and peas are some of the big offenders. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p... [nih.gov]
One of the interesting development in recent years is Gynecomastia, where men grow female style breasts. I've seen slender men with boobs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Phytoestrogens involved? We are consuming much more food laden with them.
Sperm counts have dropped by 63 percent since 1973 https://www.theguard [theguardian.com]
Vegans eat what food eats (Score:2)
Sodium levels (Score:2)
Just Marketing (Score:2)
I've been a vegan for many years, and a vegetarian for several more years before that. I can tell you from personal experience that plant-based beef, chicken, pork, and even fish products have existed for years. And that the quality of Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods products is not higher than what was on the market before. They're in the middle of the pack of the high end meat replacements but nothing ground breaking. The only difference is the Silicon Valley VCs behind them have more access to the press
Lot of butthurt going on (Score:2)
Re: It's not pork (Score:2)
Re: It's not pork (Score:2)