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Recent US COVID-19 Deaths Have Been Largely Among the Unvaccinated, Says New Analysis 266

Posted by BeauHD from the reasons-to-get-vaccinated dept.
"With just over half of the U.S. population fully vaccinated against COVID-19, and two-thirds having received one dose, a clear and unambiguous trend has emerged," writes Slashdot reader quonset. "Not only have deaths plunged from approximately 3,400 per day in January to roughly 300 per day now, 98% to 99% of all COVID-19 deaths are now from people who aren't vaccinated." MarketWatch reports: An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that "breakthrough" infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That's about 0.1%. And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.

The preventable deaths will continue, experts predict, with unvaccinated pockets of the nation experiencing outbreaks in the fall and winter. Ali Mokdad, a professor of health metrics sciences at the University of Washington in Seattle, said modeling suggests the nation will hit 1,000 deaths per day again next year. In Arkansas, which has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the nation, with only about 33% of the population fully protected, cases, hospitalizations and deaths are rising. "It is sad to see someone go to the hospital or die when it can be prevented," Gov. Asa Hutchinson tweeted as he urged people to get their shots.
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Recent US COVID-19 Deaths Have Been Largely Among the Unvaccinated, Says New Analysis

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  • Yes but at least they died (Score:5, Funny)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:23PM (#61521858)

    free of tracking implants, and with zero risk of catching autism from vaccine adjuvants.

    Darwin in action, is what that is.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by hey! ( 33014 )

      If you've ever seen the actual implants biohackers use, they're huge [youtube.com]. I've heard it described as the "size of a grain of rice"; even that would be too big to inject in a hypo needle, but actually the implants are about 2mm x 15mm. I'm an Asian guy, and I've never seen rice that big.

      • Re:Yes but at least they died (Score:5, Informative)

        by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:48PM (#61521910)

        I'm well aware. I have several implants myself. I guarantee you there's no way to get implanted without knowing it: the smallest implants use >3mm diameter needles that take a good amount of pushing to pierce the skin, and the largest require a scalpel, stitches and a large dose of injectable lidocaine.

        And then once you have an implant inside you - assuming you didn't notice the procedure, which is impossible - you can feel it, and quite often see it as well. You can see the scabbed over entry hole for quite some time too, and sometimes the internal bleeding.

        And then, even assuming whoever implanted you did a really good job at hiding it and you really didn't notice, those things are passive components with a range in the region of an inch at best. It's not like someone can sneak up on you to read it, let alone track you from afar.

        All this takes 5 minutes to look up, but that doesn't discourage the conspiracy theory cretins. But hey, it looks like COVID-19 is taking care of the reality check.

        • Re:Yes but at least they died (Score:4, Insightful)

          by mysidia ( 191772 ) on Saturday June 26, 2021 @09:20AM (#61523228)

          But hey, it looks like COVID-19 is taking care of the reality check.

          The problem is: Um, not really. Yes, some people who refused vaccination are dying, but they are still also creating a huge risk and Aiding and abetting future mutations of the virus -- the virus is still life-threatening to even some vaccinated people in its current form, And people who can't have the vaccine, And a life threatening thing to everyone including those who recovered from getting covid already, in mutated forms such as the Delta variant.

        • The problem is that they do spend 5 minutes looking it up... in their Facebook community, where everyone is echoing fear-mongered misinformation. There's a dangerous lack of critical thinking when it comes to this sort of misinformation. I've spent far too many hours trying to figure it out after seeing a family member fall deep into it. The best that I can figure is that they've got her so hyped up in a state of constant alarm, that she doesn't have the time/energy to really evaluate threats. Instead,

      • That seriously looked painful.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by hazem ( 472289 )

        I'm an Asian guy, and I've never seen rice that big.

        Yeah, in America, everything is bigger... the trucks are bigger, the houses are bigger, the people are bigger, even the grains of rice are bigger! We may not be the best any more, but we're certainly the biggest!

      • The RFID implant in my dog is about the size of a grain of rice. It is in fact injected with a hypodermic needle. A very big and scary looking one.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by Z80a ( 971949 )

        It's a dumb case of "telephone game" where mouth to mouth distorts the message.
        The origin of the whole "vaccine tracking" is Bill Gates suggesting (not even actually implementing) that people that got vaccinated should get a regular chip implant so the business can keep track etc..

    • In the UK, every dog must have a tracking implant. It's an implant. It's big. Importantly, to read it, you take the dog to a vet, who has a scanner which he holds to the dog's neck, and can read the info.

      If what the anti-vaxxers suggest was possible, there would be a HUGE market of dog owners to sell to. Hundred dollars or pound for something that let's me detect in real time where my dog is, i'd pay that in a heartbeat. Especially when there are supposedly gangs of dognappers who steal any expensive dog
      • How do we define big? Every pet I have is "chipped" (I.e., injeced with the little rice grain RFID tag)
        It isn't what I'd call big. It's certainly injected with a bigger needle than I'd like jammed into me, that's for sure... But the actual implant is pretty tiny.
        Since it is small, it also migrates.. which is a little creepy. So you can't just "scan the dog's neck", because that thing may have moved to his hip.
        But ya, not very good for covertly tracking humans. But also not big.
        You're right that they're

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by gweihir ( 88907 )

          Those are very low range (centimetres) because RFID needs to have a big antenna for even only half a meter range. And there is no way around that, environmental noise is the limit, not the chip.

      • Lol did you just say that because something is not sold publicly it must not exist?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by cfalcon ( 779563 )

      Ah yes, the utopia that can only be forged once those with a fear of needles are expunged from the land. True freedom from those with a phobia, at last!

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      free of tracking implants, and with zero risk of catching autism from vaccine adjuvants.

      You forgot fully virile as well. After all, the vaccine makes you sterile - women aren't able to get pregnant, especially if you're a teenager, and men, well, it'll just wilt.

      So those people can continue to breed. Oh wait...

    • Why on earth do people think that they could get tracking implants FOR FREE?

      I have to spend lots of money each month in order to be allowed to carry a tracking device in my pocket. Many people pay more to have tracking devices installed in their homes and cars.

      Its absurd to think Microsoft, Google and the like would provide a free tracking service .

  • I'm vaccinated and it's probably true - but it's also exactly the sort of thing they would come out with to try to get the unvaccinated to comply. At least that's what the unvaccinated are going to think.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by jnork ( 1307843 )

      I'm fully vaccinated, and I figured out how to hack my biochip, so I can read your mind now.

      Mwah hah hah hah hah!

    • Yes, well, unfortunately, real life has a way of confirming the reverse-psychology expectations of conspiracy beliefs... I'm pretty sure there's a mathematical truth that can be formulated for that.

      So really, I don't think we should concern ourselves with what people expect, when anything that is reality, and thus diametrically opposed to their beliefs, can be construed as reverse psychology employed against them.
      Let Darwin take his fucking chunk of flesh, or force them to be vaccinated. I don't care whi

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by rtb61 ( 674572 )

      I had it already the infection, GFY, if you try to demand I still have the vaccine, seriously.

  • 5G (Score:2)

    by darkain ( 749283 )

    That's because they were not able to download the virus definition updates fast enough without the 5G injected directly into their veins.

  • in other news ... (Score:5, Funny)

    by pesho ( 843750 ) on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:31PM (#61521882)
    ... local resident finds that gravity is a thing after jumping off a bridge.

    • Wonder if there's still the trend of people crossing the borders to get a shot?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by jodido ( 1052890 )
        The Paraguayans who were killed in the Miami building collapse were in Miami to get vaccinated.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by drnb ( 2434720 )

      ... local resident finds that gravity is a thing after jumping off a bridge.

      Actually when friends and I jumped off a bridge into the river below we were counting on gravity.

  • Recent US COVID-19 Deaths Have Been Largely Among the Unvaccinated, Says New Analysis

    How about, "Less than 1% of COVID-19 deaths are among the vaccinated" because I'm pretty sure most *non-recent* COVID-19 deaths have also been largely among the unvaccinated. Sure, that's because they happened before vaccines were available, but the current title could be taken to imply more than it does. Just sayin'

  • pun intended.

    Hopefully they die quickly before they breed something that can make me sick. Naturally, the new mutation will be going around a month or more before we nail it down which makes me think I maybe should mask up just in case they are patient zero; although, the odds are quite low if you don't hang around those type of people.

    • Anti-vaxers do tend to cluster... then all go to Disneyland on the same day.

    • Yep. My 90 or 95% protection is wonderful and I've commissioned a t-shirt thanking Dr. KarikÃ, but that 5 or 10% (or more for a variant) looms large when I consider an infected person breathing around me.

      For some reason, my circle of friends and acquaintances are all vaccinated but I wear a mask to the store.

      • Yep. My 90 or 95% protection is wonderful and I've commissioned a t-shirt thanking Dr. KarikÃ, but that 5 or 10% (or more for a variant) looms large when I consider an infected person breathing around me.

        Perhaps it should not loom large? My understanding is that vaccination does two things. (1) Greatly reduces the likelihood of infection. (2) Greatly reduces the likelihood of becoming seriously ill if infected.

        • Perhaps it should not loom large? My understanding is that vaccination does two things. (1) Greatly reduces the likelihood of infection. (2) Greatly reduces the likelihood of becoming seriously ill if infected.

          What, exactly, do you think "95% protection" means? It sounds an awful like reducing likelyhood.

  • It sucks that people are dying but the good news is that the vaccines are very effective. Those that chose to forego vaccination have chosen to needlessly put their lives on the line. They will be missed by their loved ones but I have a difficult time conjuring up sympathy for people who refuse to believe scientists who have been begging them to get vaccinated.

    • Unfortunately, it's not just them at risk. The longer the virus widely circulates, the more it mutates. The more it mutates, the greater the chances it will gain a mutation that makes the vaccines ineffective.

      Bubba showing fealty to Trump by refusing the vaccine could destroy all the work put in over the last year.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by gweihir ( 88907 )

      Indeed. Also note that vaccines available this fast, this effective and with this low a risk of serious side-effects were in no way assured. The human race has gotten very lucky this time. And then there are morons that refuse this gift. Incredible.

  • And here comes the Delta strain (Score:3)

    by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Friday June 25, 2021 @07:58PM (#61521936)
    The US seems set up for a pretty serious new wave of Delta infections. We have dropped practically all precautions and I don't see masks let alone shutdowns coming back unless the number of infections among vaccinated people goes up a lot. So for the unvaccinated, it's going to get bad.
  • In the UK, the numbers are different: About 30% of deaths currently are vaccinated, and 70% are not vaccinated.

    The only explanation I can think of: In the UK, vulnerable people got vaccinated first, and less vulnerable people much later (18 year olds are now invited). The 18 year olds have a much lower chance of dying. So while vaccinated people get much fewer infections, maybe only one percent, they are usually much more vulnerable, so they still make up 30% of the deaths. And the unvaccinated seem to b
    • Comment removed based on user account deletion

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by pesho ( 843750 )

      I think there are less complicated explanations. While the UK has large number of vaccinated people, the number of people who have received two doses is significantly less. This was a choice made by the UK government. They stretched the time between the first and second dose from three to twelve weeks. There is a very clear data that one dose is not nearly as protective as two doses, especially when the new variants are concerned.

      UK is also using mostly the Astra-Zeneca vaccine, which has had reduced acti

      • That's a month old, and the latest UK studies show AZ single dose to reduce mortality 75-80% with no data yet on two doses.

        https://assets.publishing.serv... [service.gov.uk]

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by pesho ( 843750 )
          What you are referencing is not the latest studies, but the latest UK government report. The sources for the vaccine effectiveness in this report are two studies that are two months old and do not account for the Delta variant. The links to the original studies are below and you can independently verify this by checking the references in the report. https://www.bmj.com/content/37... [bmj.com] https://www.medrxiv.org/conten... [medrxiv.org] The first study is from the same group I referenced and was published April 27th while I r

          • The pdf contains citations you idiot.

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by pesho ( 843750 )

              The pdf contains citations you idiot.

              I was pointing you to the citations from the report. I even provided you with links to the original papers. If you bothered to check them, you would have found that these are two month old studies with data cut-offs even earlier. This is before the Delta variant had any appreciable spread in UK. I also provided you with a reference from the same group that is cited in the report that is much newer and looks specifically a the Delta variant. Not only that, but I also cited the abstract of the article where i

    • Probably bad British teeth are less likely to mash up the virus when eating food sprinkled with the virus.

    • The UK predominantly used Astrazeneca which has shown a lower effectiveness than the mRNA vaccines. So another factor is the type of vaccine used in each country.

      The UK also has fewer fully vaccinated people per capita. So the "vaccinated" population in the UK may be a single shot vs the US which is almost entirely both shots.

    • In the states, the vulnerable, old age/workers, were the first ones. If you are at 30% of your deaths being vaccinated, that speaks more about the vaccines that you are using than anything else. Basically, you have a so-so efficiency rate on AZ, which is your main vaccines there.
      The good news is that your stats are still better than those using the Chinese vaccines. Theirs apparently do not work for 3 of the 4, and the 4th has low efficiency.

    • What is the vaccination rate in UK?

      Remember that if 100% of the population is vaccinated, then 100% of the deaths will be people who are vaccinated. So that kind of statistical anomaly might be coming into play.

  • Who is paying for the healthcare? (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward

    Still looking for a reason to get the vaccine?

    Patriotism? Get the shot and get back to work. Let's make american great again.

    Deficit Hawk? Who is paying for all the unvaccinated people who are in the hospital with COVID-19?

    Love the children? Get the vaccine and protect those who can't get the vaccine.

    Military Booster? Get the vaccine for force readiness.

  • I keep seeing this, and I'm like, duh. People who don't have immunity are always going to die at higher rates than those with either natural or man-made immunity. They're trying to say I told you so, but they're just showing their own ignorance. Instead, I say we need to work on getting more kids to score above average in their school work.

  • They died the way they lived: free from government mandates.

    • They died the way they lived: free from government mandates.

      They died the way they lived: ignorant and dangerous to everyone around them.

  • "I have an immune system" (Score:3, Informative)

    by Maxo-Texas ( 864189 ) on Friday June 25, 2021 @10:02PM (#61522216)

    Deputy Daniel "Duke" Trujillo, age 33, died May 28th leaving behind a wife and two kids. He had updated his Facebook Page on May 7th to say "I have an immune system". As a first responder, Deputy Trujillo had been eligible to to receive vaccinations for several months. He had turned down those opportunities.

    One of many sources for more information- including for any anti-vaxxers who want to contribute to his wife and kids (who are pretty much without support now except his life insurance).

    https://www.newsweek.com/sheri... [newsweek.com]

    ---

    The good news is I've heard repeatedly that he only had a .0000000001% chance of dying. And he won't be suffering from vaccination side effects like a sore arm, or cold chills.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by gweihir ( 88907 )

      They pay out life insurance for COVID anti-vaxxers? That will not continue for long...

  • Thinning the herd (Score:3, Funny)

    by hyades1 ( 1149581 ) <hyades1@hotmail.com> on Saturday June 26, 2021 @02:18AM (#61522706)

    Anybody care to take a guess what spectacularly identifiable demographic has the lowest vaccination percentage? Let's just say that, with some exceptions for people who can't be vaccinated for health reasons, the average intelligence of the United States increases every time one of them croaks.

    • agreed. I mourn not a single death from the american redhats.

      as the kids today say, I'm all out of fucks to give.

      let the red states lose people to 'the flu'. I support their right to die for stupid reasons.

      the last year and a half has been an eye-opener for most of us americans. we saw a side of our country that shocked us. if there ever was a time that showed we are truly two countries, this was it.

      again, I dont give a fuck anymore about idiots who let themselves die. they had enough time and chances

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