Beyond Meat Signs Global Supply Deals With McDonald's, KFC and Pizza Hut (agfundernews.com) 109
U.S. plant-based protein company Beyond Meat has signed global supply deals with fast food firms McDonald's and Yum! Brands, which includes KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell and others. AgFunderNews reports: The three-year strategic agreement with McDonald's will see Beyond Meat become the 'preferred supplier' of patties for the fast food chain's new McPlant plant-based burger. Under their separate strategic partnership, Beyond Meat and Yum! Brands will co-develop a range of exclusive plant-based protein menu items for the latter's KFC, Pizza Hut, and Taco Bell chains.
Bruce Friedrich, executive director of the Good Food Institute, said in comments sent to AFN that the two deals represent "the clearest sign yet that the future of meat will be plant-based." "The world's largest restaurant chains are placing plant-based meat directly on the plates of millions of customers around the world," he said. "With more restaurants and revenue than any other food chains on the planet, McDonald's and Yum! Brands will bring plant-based meat onto the mainstream menus of millions of people. When these restaurant chains move, the entire food industry takes notice."
Bruce Friedrich, executive director of the Good Food Institute, said in comments sent to AFN that the two deals represent "the clearest sign yet that the future of meat will be plant-based." "The world's largest restaurant chains are placing plant-based meat directly on the plates of millions of customers around the world," he said. "With more restaurants and revenue than any other food chains on the planet, McDonald's and Yum! Brands will bring plant-based meat onto the mainstream menus of millions of people. When these restaurant chains move, the entire food industry takes notice."
Is this really anything new? (Score:2, Funny)
"U.S. plant-based protein company Beyond Meat has signed global supply deals with fast food firms McDonald's and Yum! Brands"
Many have suspected for some time that whatever Taco Bell and McDonald's have been putting in their burgers and tacos, it doesn't bear much resemblance to meat.
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Delivering the killing blow is probably the best part of a meal. But with beef it's just so impractical for me to butcher and store that much meat safely and economically. As a compromise I pay someone else to bash its head in and chop it up into steaks.
But a lobster or a rabbit or even a white-tail deer, I can totally handle that myself.
Re:Is this really anything new? (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm not certain that eating soy-based meat is helpful to the environment when the rain forests are being knocked down and burned to make room for soy beans. I read something about that recently but could not find it via Google. However, the search turned up several articles about soya production in Brazil and elsewhere.
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Re: Is this really anything new? (Score:3, Informative)
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9% of cattle graze? (Score:2)
Is there ant particular sentence on that page that you thought was relevant? The relevant fact I found there was "grazing systems supply about 9 percent of the world's production of beef".
If 9% of cattle graze and 91% are instead fed corn and soy ...
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If 9% of cattle graze and 91% are instead fed corn and soy ...
Nowhere in that wiki article does it say 91% of cattle are fed corn and soy. In fact, it says (uncited)
In the United States, most cattle raised for beef production are (mostly) grass-fed
A more relevant link is here. [wikipedia.org]
Of the total US soybean tonnage produced, about 35 percent was fed to US livestock and poultry as soybean meal.
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It has been estimated that, of soy meal fed to animals in the US, 48 percent is fed to poultry, 26 percent to swine, 12 percent to beef cattle, 9 percent to dairy cattle, 3 percent is used in fish feed and about 2 percent in pet food.
So in the US, a little over 7% of soy production goes to feeding cattle. Not 90%.
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> A more relevant link is here.
That *is* a more relevant link.
And you pointed out which parts directly address the question.
Cows cant digest a lot of soy. (Score:2)
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Phytoestrogen is plant estrogen. Regular meat, by comparison, contains regular estrogen. Milk and milk products contain progesteron on top. You don't see people complaining that cheese, chicken and beef turns the frogs gay.
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Phytoestrogen is plant estrogen. Regular meat, by comparison, contains regular estrogen. Milk and milk products contain progesteron on top. You don't see people complaining that cheese, chicken and beef turns the frogs gay.
I'm not certain if you are agreeing or disagreeing with me. I haven't heard of any progesterone imbalance in people like estrogen and phytoestrogen can create an imbalance. Add the endocrine disrupters and all kinds of fun ensues. Mostly for men, but women are affected as well.
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I thought the great soyboy panic was over long ago...
Basically the oestrogen in plants isn't the same as oestrogen in humans. Long ago there was a study that found that eating plant oestrogen had an effect on sheep... But sheep are not humans and they eat a hell of a lot of it, and nothing much else.
There is zero evidence that consumed oestrogen has any noticeable effect on humans.
There's an amusing video about it if you are interested: https://youtu.be/C8dfiDeJeDU [youtu.be]
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I thought most people were sheep
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I thought the great soyboy panic was over long ago...
Basically the oestrogen in plants isn't the same as oestrogen in humans. Long ago there was a study that found that eating plant oestrogen had an effect on sheep... But sheep are not humans and they eat a hell of a lot of it, and nothing much else.
There is zero evidence that consumed oestrogen has any noticeable effect on humans.
There's an amusing video about it if you are interested: https://youtu.be/C8dfiDeJeDU [youtu.be]
I believe you are the person who claimed that they were too busy to reead my cite links.
Ridicule all you like - then go to the Mayo clinic and let them know that you know what's really happening, and are the owner of the truth, that phytoestrogens have zero effect on humans.
I'm doubting it. But you should go tell them they are wrong. https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0472... [mdpi.com] Here's a study on how it creates fertility problems in livestock.
My best guess as to why some people denounce the evidence of estrogen
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Here's a study on how it creates fertility problems in livestock.
No further comment.
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Here's a study on how it creates fertility problems in livestock.
No further comment.
Exactly. Humans are animals, subject to the same stressors as other mammals. One of the big issues with humans is that there are ethical guidelines that must be followed - there are with animals too, even insects. So what we do is inadvertently perform testing just by plunging headlong into exposing humans without testing.
But I'm curious - do you deny the effects of endocrine disruptors as well as phytoestrogen's part in estrogen dominance?
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I believe he said "No further comment" because he'd already debunked that particular talking point.
Perhaps instead of claiming there's a survey that says oestrogen causes fertility problems in sheep, something he had already brought up, you should explain why "eating a hell of a lot of it and nothing else" isn't a valid reason for ignoring a survey saying it slightly increases infertility when considering the possible ramifications of humans eating it occasionally.
Perhaps long ago studies are not the alpha and omega, and It is apparent that he has a political bent.
And dumb old me gave citations - links to the Mayo Clinic, among others. If you know more about this stuff than the Mayo Clinic - argue with them, not me.
I'll even make it easy for you to buttress your claims that there is no effect of phytoestrogens whatsoever, that I am somehow biased against "soyboys." https://www.mayoclinic.org/dis... [mayoclinic.org]
Now go read it - then get on the horn to Mayo, to let them k
Re:Is this really anything new? (Score:5, Informative)
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McDonalds lobbied government to LOWER meat classifications in the past and that allowed them to sell you sub-standard meat that previously did not classify as edible meat. Remember pink slime? That was not the worst of it... and pink chicken slime continues... they actually have to flavor that chicken because after making it safe it loses all flavor. They may as well go all soy and flavor that in a similar way.
Oh, I will never forget their heavily cooked beef in the mcburgers where you may eat a dozen cow
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McDonalds lobbied government to LOWER meat classifications in the past and that allowed them to sell you sub-standard meat that previously did not classify as edible meat. Remember pink slime? That was not the worst of it... and pink chicken slime continues... they actually have to flavor that chicken because after making it safe it loses all flavor.
That reminded me - the presumed fresh squeezed orange juice might have been squeezed fresh, but they store it in tanks, and it too loses it's flavor, and needs to be "refreshed"
Frozen orange juice on the other hand, largely retains it's flavor. And I can really taste a difference between the two - something just seems off about the not so fresh squeezed stuff.
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That is exactly why they're promoting the plant based burgers.
It's not about health - if you're eating a burger, health isn't exactly the priority here. Taste isn't it either - other than it tasts
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if you're eating a burger, health isn't exactly the priority here.
A burger is a perfectly healthy piece of food. There's literally nothing unhealthy in a burger. The only unhealthy part of the whole thing is the refined flour-based bun. It can be subbed out if you care.
And heck, when you can have a gathering again, you can all make burgers that everyone can eat (except vegans), which is possibly exciting where the vegetarians no longer have to settle for the salad.
When I make burgers, everyone can eat them. Some choose not to. That's their choice.
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Why couldn't vegans eat them? There's plenty of excellent plant-based "cheeses" available these days. My favorite is Daiya cheddar slices, but be warned that they taste best once they've started melting a little.
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taste or nutrition are not valid reasons.
People don't go to McDonalds for taste or nutrition.
I actually have no idea why they go. The best I can come up with is that it's a sort of mini "unboxing" ritual - all those little packets to unwrap in a cartoon environment with no knives or forks or plates to be seen anywhere.
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It's because it's cheap AF to get some hot food that you didn't have to prepare.
I haven't been in a Mickey DeezNutz in literally years, because when I go on a long trip I make a sandwich first. But they are my go-to when I need to grab a bite quickly when I'm out in the world, because I know I can get something that's relatively tasty for very little money and in very little time, and be on with my day.
I don't get why someone would make them part of their routine, though. Ugh.
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Reminds me of: https://youtu.be/KYKGFujJp6Y?t=114
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I agree with the cheap AF to get some hot food that you didn't have to prepare.
But I adore McDonalds as it's the
1. only major chain of fast food in my country (there are others like KFC and Burger King, but they have only a handful of joints in the whole country, and a small number of those are in my city).
2. one of the rare franchise that operates in all the surrounding countries (so I can choose it when I go abroad)
3. when you combine it with the first two, most important for me - it always tastes the sam
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Which really is sad. There IS an option that tastes alright... certainly fast food burger level alright at least. The impossible foods one at least could pass as those bulk frozen pre-shaped patties you can get from the store for a large cookout or similar.
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Re: Is this really anything new? (Score:1)
Jesus if they can commit to that deal what the fuck is it made of.
During bbq I call it âoebeyond assâ because it smells like ass.
Lameness filter says I should say it really did smell like ass.
I need to write more? How much sjw snowflake had slashdot gone. Probably too far at this point.
No, your shit looks like ascii art you clown car mother fuckers.
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Beyond Meat smells like Paris Paté when raw, Impossible Meat does smell like shit when raw.
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And regarding McDonalds, your suspicioun would be as far from actual reality as it gets.
Safer foods. (Score:1)
Well the nice thing is it will not be as perishable as meat. Making it easier to ship and store, both commercial, and individually.
Re: Safer foods. (Score:2)
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Citation?
No citation is needed because you can easily confirm this for yourself:
1. Set a raw hamburger patty on your kitchen counter
2. Set a raw carrot next to it
Which rots first?
Moving on to safety:
1. Eat the raw hamburger
2. Eat the raw carrot
Which makes you sick?
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Re: Safer foods. (Score:4, Informative)
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Sodium alone doesn't do it. One needs to add heart stopping amounts of fat. Should be a natural for McDonalds: Try our New McSalt and McFat patty food burger, you'll never live to regret it!
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For comparison a Burger King Whopper (real meat) has around 980mg of sodium in it, so the Impossible Whopper is only 20mg more than a real meat Whopper.
While the patty has more than a real meat one, they simply balanced it out by reducing the amount of sodium in the other ingredients.
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Re: Safer foods. (Score:4, Informative)
The recommended protein intake for an 80 kg adult is 64 g. If you got all of that protein from Beyond Meat (eating 3.2 burgers) you would consume 1250 mg sodium [greenqueen.com.hk], just slightly more than half the recommended intake limit of 2300 mg.
So, not suitable for a low sodium diet, or a body builder very high protein regimen, but for a typical person the sodium content is balanced for its protein content and a typical intake pattern (maybe one or two a day?) only consumes a fraction of your daily sodium intake allotment.
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whoever told you that protein requirement was highly mis-informed. Real males, who dont sing soprano, that have an active lifestyle need 1g of protein for 1lb of lean muscle mass. If you are a barely active person then you need 0.5g of protein per 1lb of lean muscle mass. link [nasm.org] link [verywellfit.com]. So if your lean body mass, calculated as 0% bodyfat comes in at 145lb (66kg), you still need 72g of protein daily for mildly active people. Your math has someone's body robbing their own muscle tissue. If you're a male you real
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Bacteria, mold and fungus might act counter to your preconceptions. I'd do experiments before making such an assertion.
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Well the nice thing is it will not be as perishable as meat
You seem to think that this is an announcement by McDonald's to increase veggie burger offerings or replace some meat burgers with veggie burgers.
It's not.
This is just an announcement that their current veggie burger offerings will be sourced from Beyond Meat rather than another competitor, like Impossible.
It's no different than a sunroof supplier announcing that it has been selected as the preferred vendor for Ford sunroofs. It has zero bearing on
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No. I think that more public exposure will make meat substitutes more acceptable. The entire article essentially says that. They're just starting with fast food.
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> This is just an announcement that their current veggie burger offerings will be sourced from Beyond Meat
What "current veggie burger offerings" at McDonald's, exactly?
Also, what planet do you live on?
That's not what I ordered.... (Score:2, Offtopic)
I'm a little scared that people will put plant-based proteins in sandwiches ordered by people who want real meat.
Jack In The Box did that for years (Score:2, Interesting)
In general it's best not to think about what's in the food you eat at restaurants.
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Not that kind of sick :P (Score:2)
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Yak in the Box tacos are shit. People who buy them have no taste.
Subway also tastes like shit. I can literally taste the aluminum-based leavening in the bread. The meat is worse.
In general it's best not to think about what's in the food you eat at restaurants.
Those aren't restaurants. They're where food goes to die.
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Not ever going to eat one of these products, ever. How much processing goes into it so it appears "like meat"? At least for beef you it's like, you know, just meat.
In McDonalds? LOL!
'Plant-based meat'. (Score:3)
Nice clickbait article, editors.
'meat' comes from an animal.
If I want a vegie burger, I'll order a vegie burger.
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If I want cheese on my hamburger, I'll order a cheese burger. Why does every server ask if I want cheese on that when I just explicitly said I didn't by ordering a hamburger?
Just making sure. Do you want fries with that?
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A hamburger by definition includes "cheeseburger", look it up. There are other ideas on the subject than yours. Plenty of places include cheese on their hamburgers by default.
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And if I want ham on my burger, I'll order a hamburger.
What?
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WTF is a hamburger without cheese? I mean other than an culinary abomination.
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'meat' comes from an animal.
What is the proteinaceous edible part of a nut called?
The meat.
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I have no problem with their name — I even forgive them the implication, that they are better than meat, that's normal boasting for any company.
My complaint is with the term "plant-based meat" — because it is self-contradicting, like the others I listed.
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Well more like "plant-based" with the qualities of meat. Not a contradiction for those who don't take everything in life literally.
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Being literally — or "technically" — correct may not be sufficient, but it certainly is required for a respectable statement.
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No doubt soy milk drives you crazy.
Words extend their range of meaning all the time.
And about this particular one -- "meat":
In the OED "flesh of animals" is only definition number 3 out of 6 for "meat". [oed.com]
Also:
Meat: Have you ever wondered about the expression “meat and drink”? It comes from an older meaning of the word meat that refers to food in general — solid food of a variety of kinds (not just animal flesh), as opposed to drink. [ted.com]
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Not any more than guinea pig.
Extending is fine — see above. Motorized bicycle is still a bicycle. But the new meaning cannot contradict the initial one: if it is a meatball, it cannot be meatless — however you define "meat".
You may be trying to change the meaning of the term "meat", but the company being discussed do not. They call the
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Homosexual marriage...
Found Brendan Eich's account.
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Which is why some homosexuals find the phrase "union" more descriptive. Less religious connotations.
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*organized
*deliberately
(Not that it mattered. This site isn't worth taking care of what you write.(
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Oh, is that it, the lack of approval, that prevents homosexual couples from breeding?
Please, don't bring public school teachers [dw.com] into this...
Big fat NOPE (Score:1)
"the clearest sign yet that the future of meat will be plant-based."
1. That is NOT MEAT, goddamnit!
2. Meat is here to stay. Marketing slags can say that shit all they want but the human race is NOT going to all become vegetarian.
3. Deal with it.
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Maybe it's you to have to deal with things?
Some people eat plant stuff instead of animal stuff, and even have the galls to call it meat.
That's not going anywhere, either.
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You're definitively among the ones who need to deal with it, if you think the laws of physics define the words we use.
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If trolling: congrats, partial success, you're not making anyone angry, you're just making us shake our heads at how dumb you sound; 'being a moron' is not 'trolling', it's just 'being a moron' (although one can argue that all trolls are morons to start with).
If not trolling: You really ARE being a moron. Reality doesn't change just be
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You're going a little off the hinges here. I'm not enslaving anyone's ability to think if I start calling a plant-based burger a type of meat, or if I call oat milk oat milk. We're still both perfectly aware of when it's a dead animal and when it's a dead plant.
I do, in fact. As long as I'm consistent, and the people I talk to understand what I mean (and even you would, through your sputtering), there's no problem at all. Methodological
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It's not meat. You can't change the laws of physics. A thing is a thing and another thing is not that thing. If you call a spade a pork roast, it's still a spade, and you'll still get sick from eating it.
I'm going to need a source on the law of physics that defines meat, because last I checked it was a word, not a law of the universe. As for stretching the definition, meat was originally "a meal, food, item of nourishment"(1)(2) before it later changed to mean "animal flesh" (although it's not even restricted to that today, as it also means the "edible part of fruits, nuts, or eggs"(2) so since everyone is so hung up on definitions changing, maybe we should use the original, in which case this actually is m
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Bugger off. Also go get psychological help, your grip on reality seems to be slipping.
Also be insulted all you want at me, I don't give a fuck.
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Wonder why their stock didn't go up (Score:2)
Junk food signs deal with junk food vendors. (Score:1)
Fitting.
Beyond meat is about the most processed and artificial thing you could possibly eat.
There's probably toys from Chiina that, of you ate them, would be less processed and closer to human food. ;)
And all because some city dwellers that never saw nature are too selfish to use condoms, and want humanity to grow despite its depletion of resources, until we've extincted ALL other life on earth.
(If they really cared about nature, and not just about virtue signaling and denial, they'd not make any more human
Simulated Meat is a good thing ... (Score:4, Insightful)
... I'd would be nice to see this catch on big time. Meat has an abysmal eco-balance, aside from regular meat being hell for animals. If we reduce meat back to rarer quality premium food, that would be a huge positive for the environment.
Sure, in theory (Score:2)
The problem is that "Beyond" meat is one of the most universally panned meat substitutes. I've had it. It's garbage. Total fucking garbage.
I finally had an impossible burger recently, they were at grocery outlet for $2.50 a two pack. It tasted and felt very much like a shitty burger. Given the price and the general unhealthiness of it, that means it's garbage too. It's just expensive garbage.
Let us know when there's a meat substitute that isn't fucking pathetic.
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I don't eat Whoppers any more, because I keep burping up the flavoring for hours afterwards. This does not happen to me with any other burger.
Ingredients (Score:1)
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