Pfizer Is Doubling Its Output of Covid-19 Vaccines (usatoday.com) 110
31.9 million Americans have already received one or both doses of a Covid-19 vaccine — including more than 9.3 million people who have been fully vaccinated.
And now USA Today reports: Pfizer expects to nearly cut in half the amount of time it takes to produce a batch of COVID-19 vaccine from 110 days to an average of 60 as it makes the process more efficient and production is built out, the company told USA TODAY. As the nation revs up its vaccination programs, the increase could help relieve bottlenecks caused by vaccine shortages.
"We call this 'Project Light Speed,' and it's called that for a reason," said Chaz Calitri, Pfizer's vice president for operations for sterile injectables, who runs the company's plant in Kalamazoo, Michigan. "Just in the last month we've doubled output."
The increased speed and capacity is not unexpected, said Robert Van Exan, president of Immunization Policy and Knowledge Translation, a vaccine production consulting firm. "Nobody's ever produced mRNA vaccines at this scale, so you can bet your bottom dollar the manufacturers are learning as they go. I bet you every day they run into some vaccine challenge and every day they solve it, and that goes into their playbook," he said...
As soon as vials of vaccine began coming off the production line, engineers started analyzing how production could work faster and better. "We made a lot of really slick enhancements," he said. Production is getting faster. For example, making the DNA that starts the vaccine process first took 16 days; soon it will take nine or 10. Though quality control and testing has accelerated, company officials say FDA regulations and best manufacturing practices are still being met. Along with improving speed, Pfizer also is increasing output by adding manufacturing lines in all three plants.
As the vaccine effort continues, more efficiencies are expected.
Across America a bout 20.6 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine have already been administered.
And now USA Today reports: Pfizer expects to nearly cut in half the amount of time it takes to produce a batch of COVID-19 vaccine from 110 days to an average of 60 as it makes the process more efficient and production is built out, the company told USA TODAY. As the nation revs up its vaccination programs, the increase could help relieve bottlenecks caused by vaccine shortages.
"We call this 'Project Light Speed,' and it's called that for a reason," said Chaz Calitri, Pfizer's vice president for operations for sterile injectables, who runs the company's plant in Kalamazoo, Michigan. "Just in the last month we've doubled output."
The increased speed and capacity is not unexpected, said Robert Van Exan, president of Immunization Policy and Knowledge Translation, a vaccine production consulting firm. "Nobody's ever produced mRNA vaccines at this scale, so you can bet your bottom dollar the manufacturers are learning as they go. I bet you every day they run into some vaccine challenge and every day they solve it, and that goes into their playbook," he said...
As soon as vials of vaccine began coming off the production line, engineers started analyzing how production could work faster and better. "We made a lot of really slick enhancements," he said. Production is getting faster. For example, making the DNA that starts the vaccine process first took 16 days; soon it will take nine or 10. Though quality control and testing has accelerated, company officials say FDA regulations and best manufacturing practices are still being met. Along with improving speed, Pfizer also is increasing output by adding manufacturing lines in all three plants.
As the vaccine effort continues, more efficiencies are expected.
Across America a bout 20.6 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine have already been administered.
Good one adding the america flag (Score:1)
Re:Good one adding the america flag (Score:5, Informative)
From a quick search, Canada appears to be getting their Pfizer vaccines from the Belgium plant ( https://www.usatoday.com/story... [usatoday.com] ). Mexico also appears to be getting them from Belgium ( https://www.entrepreneur.com/a... [entrepreneur.com] ).
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From what I understand the whole world gets its doses from Europe (and Russia, China, India). The USA isn't exporting any dose.
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To be clear, you mean the whole world except the USA, right? The US appears to get it domestically.
It's manufactured in 3 stages. For the US, stage 1 is in Chesterfield, Missouri, stage 2 is in Andover, Massachusett, and stage 3 is Portage, Michigan. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] ). After that, they ship direct to the point of use sites ( https://www.pfizer.com/product... [pfizer.com] ).
Re: Good one adding the america flag (Score:2)
Yes, what I meant is that the USA doesn't seem to import or export any vaccine.
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Pfizer recently fought and won some retroactive change in its vaccine commitments to account for the "extra dose" often extractable from a vial of vaccine, allowing them to ship fewer vials of vaccine and still meet their contractual requirements with the US government.
My guess is that the entire point of that exercise was to be able to get to the point where they can export doses from the US sooner. Whether than means immediately with existing production or after satisfying existing US contracts I don't k
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Pfizer recently fought and won some retroactive change in its vaccine commitments to account for the "extra dose" often extractable from a vial of vaccine, allowing them to ship fewer vials of vaccine and still meet their contractual requirements with the US government.
My guess is that the entire point of that exercise was to be able to get to the point where they can export doses from the US sooner.
If by "sooner" you mean after everyone in the USA was offered one, then I think that was the plan since the start anyways.
I'm honestly not sure how much vaccine Pfizer really expected to move out of the US to global regions without sophisticated cold chains anyway. It seems pretty high cost and high risk to some degree to air freight the Pfizer vaccine globally. Maybe major population centers overseas would be candidates, but once you start looking at moving it into rural areas in less developed countries it gets really problematic compared to a refrigeration vaccine, especially a single dose version.
You understand Canada imports Pfizer vaccines from Belgium instead of Michigan, because of the US export ban, right? And that this plant exports all over the world. They have the super freezer they require. No reason why they couldn't use the same equipment to export out of the USA as well.
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And my understanding is that BioNtech/Pfizer WILL be exporting from Michigan later this year.
Yes, after there is nobody in the US wanting one, either because they don't want it, or because they already have it.
As it is, I do not think that BioNtech is exporting from Europe. Not yet. Europe is supposed to get everything they produce there until sometime in the future.
Where do you think Israel and Canada are getting their Pfizer shots from? That's right, Belgium. Fortunately for us, the EU is not banning exports like the USA.
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The EU did pre-order doses. Just like Canada. Still, the USA is blocking exports to Canada until its own contract is fulfilled.
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I mean it's not as if the USA was the first one to place the orders for its whole population. Initial contract is only 100M doses with pfizer.
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A lot of countries got contracts with Pfizer for this vaccine. Only the USA is blocking exports to secure its supply so far.
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I didn't see any article saying the UK or the EU blocked exports. Do you have any to share? The UK is getting 100% of its Pfizer/BioNTech doses from the EU. Just like Canada, Israel, and everybody else except the USA.
A lot of countries are getting AstraZeneca vaccines as well. They could come from India or the EU as well, but I thought the UK was exporting some as well. Maybe not.
So either the USA is the only country to block exports, or the UK and the USA are the only two countries to block exports.
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What I should add is if it's true the UK is blocking exports like the USA, the EU should block Pfizer/Moderna vaccines from being exported to the UK.
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Are you suggesting those who order first should get all their doses before the others get their first one? Because if so, the UK ordered to Pfizer 2 days before the USA. The UK didn't get all its doses yet. Why is the USA getting any?
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And Canada's order could have probably been part of the additional doses order under, probably any other administration, but that would have been a deal between the Ottawa and Washington, not Ottawa and Pfiser.
Why? Are you suggesting the US government should micro manage everything produced in the country and negotiate directly with potential customers? I thought that is usually let to the private sector. Pfizer is making the vaccine, not the US government. That's why Canada deals with Pfizer, just like the USA.
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Are you suggesting those who order first should get all their doses before the others get their first one? Because if so, the UK ordered to Pfizer 2 days before the USA. The UK didn't get all its doses yet. Why is the USA getting any?
Because the UK has in country manufacturing that is cranking out doses as fast as they can. They are getting 100% of the doses made in the UK. Exactly the same as the US. They are getting 100% of the doses produced domestically. They will both be open to export when those orders are complete.
Am I your only source for news or something? Read for yourself here guy.
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What I should add is if it's true the UK is blocking exports like the USA, the EU should block Pfizer/Moderna vaccines from being exported to the UK.
The EU is not shipping the Pfiser vacine to the UK. BioNTech is in Germany, but has very limited production capability. I don't know where Pfiser is in the EU to start to question why they are not producing, and or why if BioNTech made a exclusive deal for production with Pfiser. I'm sure one of the many Swiss drug giants could be making the vaccine too, so I have to assume there is some exclusive deal, but that is conjecture.
The EU threatened to export ban, I think it was the AstraZenica vaccine to
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It seems you just don't read or understand my messages.
The UK doesn't produce any Pfizer vaccine. They are importing 100% from Belgium.
They produce AstraZeneca vaccines. Never seen an article on whether the UK plants are exporting or not, so I am not assuming anything. Any article to share about that, or most likely, you are just guessing (and often wrong, such as when you said the US ordered to Pfizer first) since the beginning of this discussion?
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What I should add is if it's true the UK is blocking exports like the USA, the EU should block Pfizer/Moderna vaccines from being exported to the UK.
The EU is not shipping the Pfiser vacine to the UK. BioNTech is in Germany, but has very limited production capability. I don't know where Pfiser is in the EU to start to question why they are not producing, and or why if BioNTech made a exclusive deal for production with Pfiser. I'm sure one of the many Swiss drug giants could be making the vaccine too, so I have to assume there is some exclusive deal, but that is conjecture.
Wrong. 100% of the Pfizer/BioNTech (we should refer to them as a single entity for the purpose of this discussion) vaccines of the UK comes from the EU, more specifically the Belgian plant of Puurs. That's only the final stage of production though. Some earlier stages are made elsewhere, including in Germany, from what I understand.
The EU threatened to export ban, I think it was the AstraZenica vaccine to the UK because of the perception that the UK was blocking the Pfiser vaccine because they have it in contract to get their order filled first.
The EU only said they were going to monitor their vaccine exports. They are not at the stage of export bans, unlike the US and perhaps the UK.
The EU contracted AstraZeneca to get
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-pfizer-idUSKCN24N1I9
You keep saying I'm wrong, show me who ordered before the US. While your at it, link me anything about any export ban from the US.
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Thought I was pretty clear I don't know about the EU,
You've made it pretty clear that you talk about stuff you don't know about, yes.
Pfizer vaccine is supposedly being made in East Yorkshire according to the article I was referencing.
https://www.reuters.com/articl... [reuters.com]
You keep saying I'm wrong, show me who ordered before the US.
As I said, the UK ordered two days before.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news... [bloomberg.com]
https://www.pfizer.com/news/pr... [pfizer.com]
I didn't check for all other possible countries, but at least I know the US didn't order first, which means you are wrong.
While your at it, link me anything about any export ban from the US.
Sure, here it is:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politic... [ctvnews.ca]
Plus, I haven't found a single article saying the USA exported any vaccine. I can f
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Pfizer vaccine is supposedly being made in East Yorkshire according to the article I was referencing.
https://www.reuters.com/articl... [reuters.com]
There is no reference to East or Yorkshire in this article. Every information I can't find points to the vaccine being produced in Belgium and then exported to the UK.
You keep saying I'm wrong, show me who ordered before the US.
As I said, the UK ordered two days before.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news [bloomberg.com]... [bloomberg.com]
https://www.pfizer.com/news/pr [pfizer.com]... [pfizer.com]
I didn't check for all other possible countries, but at least I know the US didn't order first, which means you are wrong.
While your at it, link me anything about any export ban from the US.
Sure, here it is:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politic [ctvnews.ca]... [ctvnews.ca]
Plus, I haven't found a
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You did say it before, but naturally you can't expect me to assume everything someone
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I wasn't saying that link mentioned Pfizer in the UK, that link was the article for the US order date. I don't know were that article that said Pfizer was in East Yorkshire, that was last week I read that. However, I googled "pfizer east yorkshire" and here is the first result; some other article that was not the one I read, talking about Pfizer making a deal for production with Croda: https://www.business-live.co.u... [business-live.co.uk]
Did you read your own link?
Yes, they supply an ingredient. That's it. We can guess there are other ingredients coming from many parts of the world. Still, 100% of Pfizer vaccines of the UK come from Belgium.
You did say it before, but naturally you can't expect me to assume everything someone says on the internet is true, and google isn't helping me to confirm what you say.
Please check your links mate, they're all 404's. All three of them.
Hum sorry, I don't know what happened. Second try:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news... [bloomberg.com]
https://www.pfizer.com/news/pr... [pfizer.com]
So the first two links are about the UK ordered on the 20th and the US on the 22th of July.
Third link is about the executive order signed by Trump to forbid exports:
https://www.ctvn [ctvnews.ca]
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The US should start exporting the vaccine to Canada if they want the border opened up sooner.
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Just guessing here, but I don't think the US cares about travel for pleasure to the US right now. They're going to need to get themselves together before worrying about tourism. I don't imagine Canada wants tourists from the US either until the vaccine has been rolled out, and I'm sure the lack of tourism travel is hurting Canadians significantly more.
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It's a safety measure because the disease is spread by aerosols.
pf [Re:Good one adding the america flag] (Score:3)
Why is the “P” in Pfizer silent? =
In German, the "pf" is pronounced with both the p and the f sounded: http://joycep.myweb.port.ac.uk... [port.ac.uk]
English speakers are lazy, and just leave out the p sound.
(actually, a lot of modern German speakers do, too. You hear "Flaume" instead "Pflaume", etc.)
When I get answers, maybe i’ll take their pvaccine for pcovid.
Don't think I've ever heard the pv or pc phonemes before, in English OR German. You get Ps and Pn, though (which, again, the English speakers don't bother with the initial p sound).
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In German, the "pf" is pronounced with both the p and the f sounded: http://joycep.myweb.port.ac.uk... [port.ac.uk]
English speakers are lazy, and just leave out the p sound.
Actually, English doesn't have the "pf" phoneme. "f" is the closest it comes, so English speakers tend to use that, unless they've had enough experience with a language where the pf is used that they're able to form the sound. (Even those will normally use the anglicized pronunciation when speaking English - unless they're showing off - and switch
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theres something missing and no one's really talking about it :
1) https://www.nytimes.com/live/2... [nytimes.com]
2) https://metro.co.uk/2021/02/08... [metro.co.uk] (in 20 people ?) - i know how i sound probably considering the current number of conspirationists per 100 sapients but i feel Pfizer has been nothing but elusive, speaking like politicians on the matter as well as seriously overpromising and underdelivering bu
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I'm pretty sure the Belgian government hasn't even made a 'Belgian' order. All their doses were part of a EU order.
Double the Doses (Score:4, Funny)
Double the Doses at Half the Cost means Four Times the Profit.
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Well, time *is* money. An investment that pays off faster is worth more.
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Well, time *is* money. An investment that pays off faster is worth more.
Well... From Volunteers [wikipedia.org]:
Chung Mee: Speed is important in business. Time is money.
Lawrence Bourne III: You said opium was money.
Chung Mee: Money is Money.
Lawrence Bourne III: Well then, what is time again?
If they deliver twice as much as the funded comp (Score:3)
If the profit motive means they keep doubling production, getting more people protected sooner vs the companies that did the government-funding in exchange for no profit deal, yay! More protection is better.
Anyone who doesn't want anybody to profit can wait around for the other companies that got government money upfront and won't be making a significant profit.
They do have a lot of expense in distribution and such with the temperatures required, so that will limit profit. They also have investment in equi
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Good, but... The FDA is foot-dragging on the much less expensive and more temperature stable Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. Seems corrupt to me.
The AstraZeneca vaccine seems to provide less benefits in general . Switzerland has declined approval [thelocal.ch], other European countries avoid the use of it for people over 55 and 65 (varies by country), and South Africa has paused the rollout of AstraZeneca [bbc.com] due to disappointing results against a Covid mutation that is now dominant there. The Pfizer vaccine seems to do better [politico.eu].
While I'll take any vaccine I can get as soon as I can get it, I'm hoping it won't be AstraZeneca.
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The AstraZeneca vaccine seems to provide less benefits in general . Switzerland has declined approval [thelocal.ch],
Your link doesn't say that. It says Switzerland wants more data.
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To be fair, the headline is:
Insufficient data': Switzerland declines to approve AstraZeneca vaccine
The first sentence of the article is:
Switzerland will not approve the AstraZeneca vaccine, saying there is insufficient data to do so
So yeah it says that. And it says that other thing to.
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Even more profit than that if it means it gets governments off their back, mainly governments who were oh so slow getting orders in and are now bitching that they haven't been delivered.
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That's well deserved profit.
If you can end the pandemic sooner, by producing doses twice as fast for half the price, you can keep the other half. I don't know, to invite every employee to a nice restaurant that would have closed down if it wasn't for the vaccines. Or pay for the CEO's yacht, or dividends to the shareholders, I don't care, they all deserve it in some way.
Anyways, I don't think it will be 4 times the money, there is a limited number of people to vaccinate, and if one critical process is done
Re: Double the Doses (Score:3)
there is a limited number of people to vaccinate
Assuming you don't need a booster every X months, and the virus doesn't mutate enough to require another shot... yes. But those are both bad assumptions.
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There is little evidence so far that the immunity will last more than 6 months similar to a flu vaccine.
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fuck them; the employees actually responsible for this deserve a huge reward; but instead they will be lucky to get a Christmas bonus and later they are laid off before their retirement with that old line "what have you done for us lately?"
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Yes, Pfiser is the most fined for fraud and the most fined for not living up to fda regulations drug company in the US. Now, I don't know if that is because they are a huge multinational that has that much more of a presence in the US market, or if they are more shady than the next drug company. I do know people that used to work there that would certainly think so, but I'm sure they're biased,
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Double the Doses at Half the Cost means Four Times the Profit.
And that's a problem why, exactly?
Seems like a win-win situation to me.
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Project Light Speed (Score:4, Funny)
No, no, no, light speed is to slow! We're gonna have to go right to....Project Ludicrous Speed!
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No, no, no, light speed is to slow! We're gonna have to go right to....Project Ludicrous Speed!
We had Ludricrous Speed, but then we had an election ... :-)
And since they're obviously trying to play off "Operation Warp Speed", I'll also note for the sci-fi geniuses at Pfizer, that "light speed" is slower than "warp speed" ...
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Not exactly. Warp speed is a range of speeds. Warp 1 is light speed. You can go at warp speeds of less than 1 too. But indeed, anything over warp 1 (which is almost every time they use warp speed) is faster than light speed.
Manufacturing process article (Score:5, Interesting)
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Yup. That's what it will take to end all of this before entire economic systems collapse.
Good. (Score:5, Insightful)
Now instead of rather giving it all to the US, could they actually give us (Iceland) what they promised when they signed a deal with us for deliveries, only to reneg on it and tell us we'd only be getting a small fraction thereof just days after they signed the agreement?
The US - despite its disorganization - is approaching 10% having gotten at least one shot. We're at 2%. We get a batch up use it almost instantly, then sit around waiting for more.
I guess that's what the negotiating leverage of a big country gets you...
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Then again, maybe they did for all I know.
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You seem to be repeating a meme about masks in USA. Here around Chicago everyone is wearing mask but the virus keeps spreading like wildfire. Perhaps random cloth masks aren't all that good...
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Israel pays 2x as much (30 USD) per dose and on top of that, they hand over data. What data isn't know (to me nor to the reporters who's work I've seen), but it was implied that the EU countries couldn't hand over that kind of information. BTW, in the Netherlands they've purchased special needles, now they get 7 doses out of one vial. Instead of the 6 the Belgians managed to get, instead of the 5 official that are counted per bottle.
30 USD is not that big a deal - compared to the costs for society of the current situation, that's peanuts. If we could get vaccines for everyone delivered within a month for that price here in Norway, I'm sure we'd take that offer.
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Indeed, the money isn't the big deal. From what I can tell, most countries don't manage the execution of the vaccination plan (if there is one) very well either, Israel is really good at that too. In Switzerland, they barely managed 350.000 people in over one month, in Israel they manage 100.000 people per day...
The limiting factor for most countries at this stage is availability of vaccines. Strategies with the limited number of vaccines vary - e.g. UK tries just one shot in order to vaccinate more [politico.eu], some (most?) countries use them as they arrive but focus on giving double shots as recommended, while yet others (e.g. Norway) makes sure to set aside two doses whenever someone is vaccinated in order to avoid complications if the stream of vaccines runs into issues.
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EU has dedicated factories (Score:2)
Apparently Pfeizer has factories in the EU, US and UK for delivery to the relevant governments. It's a lot easier to build locally. The US and UK are doing well. So Iceland should be asking what is going wrong at the German plants.
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Dude... transmission rates increase in winter - because everybody is indoors. Amazingly well documented.
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Doubling capacity or speed is good for the world! (Score:4)
- It's possible that the US manufacturers thought that they would have produced more vaccine than they actually have to date. Thus the need to use it all internally in the USA until production is ramped up.
- The USA has the most deaths of ANY country in the world! (Let's NOT go into the blame game of why that is...)
- Perhaps because the death rate reached 1 out of a 1000 here in the USA, external shipments were delayed because the destination has far fewer deaths.
- Unlike most countries of this planet, the USA has a large population. Yes, their are a few countries with higher populations, India and China come to mind. But, China "claims" to have MUCH FEWER deaths and infections than the USA, as well as claiming to produce their own vaccine.
- The USA has wide distribution of the population, and large land mass to cover. Yes, their are some countries with larger land to cover, like Canada to the north. But, Canada has about 1/10 the population of the USA, plus, less infections and deaths.
I truly believe that whence the US manufacturers get production ramped up, and more of the population in the US vaccinated, export WILL occur. With global economies now the normal, we need to vaccinate the world.
It is hard not to feel bad for those countries that end up at the end of the vaccine line. However, it would not do vaccine manufacturing any good if the USA experienced 1 out of 100 deaths. My personal guess is that we may hit 1 out of 250 deaths before this is all over... that would be 1.3 million. About double the other 2 main causes of death in the USA, cancer and heart disease.
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My issue with the "where was is manufactured" approach is that I do not think it works both ways.
E.g if Moderna/Pfizer-Biontech had 90% capacity in Europe, I do not think US would be satisfied with 90% of vaccine production being delivered to EU.
The same applies to Astrazenica vaccine, which, frankly, given how inferior it is compared to mRNA based vaccines, I would not care much, but again, had most of the stuff been produced in EU, I doubt Brits would go with "oh, Astrazenika's UK production capacity is i
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I don't know anything about the UK's contract, they might be out of luck in such an event, they might not. Hopefully for them in that
Re:Sorry...skipping it! (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry, won't be getting the rushed through not tested vaccine.
You ignorant twit, over 41 thousand phase III study participants were injected with the vaccine! Out of the 170 people who contracted covid in the study, only 8 of them were inoculated with the vaccine! What's your definition of "tested"?
Now, rushed through, I can agree with.
Someone can have mine.
You did get tested for covid at some point during your medical ordeal, no? No one thinks you should be getting the vaccine if you tested positive for covid.
Re: Sorry...skipping it! (Score:5, Interesting)
Even if you tested positive for COVID, the vaccine appears to induce a much broader spectrum and robust immune response. Both the Brazilian and South African variants appear to be able to easily re-infect and get sick those who got the virus naturally, but rarely those who were immunized. There is some debate whether you only need 1 dose instead of 2, but no debate about whether you should still be immunized.
And the lighter the case of COVID you had (it sounds like the parent poster got a very mild case) the fewer and shorter-lived the antibodies.
And at this point, tens of millions of doses have been given, so the âoeuntestedâ argument grows weaker by the day.
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Both the Brazilian and South African variants appear to be able to easily re-infect and get sick those who got the virus naturally
Source?
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I don't think that's correct. The BMJ recently published an article about disagreements among virologists as to whether people who've already had it should have one dose or two [bmj.com].
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Also, they almost certainly did not have it. I've heard this kind of crap from all sorts of people that all share a political persuasion in the US. I don't see why you care though, their ignorance is going to get you your vaccine sooner.