The 'Great' Conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn (nasa.gov) 62
On Monday, December 21, Jupiter and Saturn will merge in the night sky in an astronomical event known as a "Great Conjunction," appearing closer to one another than they have since Galileo's time in the 17th century. NASA reports: The planets regularly appear to pass each other in the solar system, with the positions of Jupiter and Saturn being aligned in the sky about once every 20 years. What makes this year's spectacle so rare, then? It's been nearly 400 years since the planets passed this close to each other in the sky, and nearly 800 years since the alignment of Saturn and Jupiter occurred at night, as it will for 2020, allowing nearly everyone around the world to witness this "great conjunction."
The closest alignment will appear just a tenth of a degree apart and last for a few days. On the 21st, they will appear so close that a pinkie finger at arm's length will easily cover both planets in the sky. The planets will be easy to see with the unaided eye by looking toward the southwest just after sunset. From our vantage point on Earth the huge gas giants will appear very close together, but they will remain hundreds of millions of miles apart in space. And while the conjunction is happening on the same day as the winter solstice, the timing is merely a coincidence, based on the orbits of the planets and the tilt of the Earth.
For those who would like to see this phenomenon for themselves, here's what to do:
- Find a spot with an unobstructed view of the sky, such as a field or park. Jupiter and Saturn are bright, so they can be seen even from most cities.
- An hour after sunset, look to the southwestern sky. Jupiter will look like a bright star and be easily visible. Saturn will be slightly fainter and will appear slightly above and to the left of Jupiter until December 21, when Jupiter will overtake it and they will reverse positions in the sky.
- The planets can be seen with the unaided eye, but if you have binoculars or a small telescope, you may be able to see Jupiter's four large moons orbiting the giant planet.
The closest alignment will appear just a tenth of a degree apart and last for a few days. On the 21st, they will appear so close that a pinkie finger at arm's length will easily cover both planets in the sky. The planets will be easy to see with the unaided eye by looking toward the southwest just after sunset. From our vantage point on Earth the huge gas giants will appear very close together, but they will remain hundreds of millions of miles apart in space. And while the conjunction is happening on the same day as the winter solstice, the timing is merely a coincidence, based on the orbits of the planets and the tilt of the Earth.
For those who would like to see this phenomenon for themselves, here's what to do:
- Find a spot with an unobstructed view of the sky, such as a field or park. Jupiter and Saturn are bright, so they can be seen even from most cities.
- An hour after sunset, look to the southwestern sky. Jupiter will look like a bright star and be easily visible. Saturn will be slightly fainter and will appear slightly above and to the left of Jupiter until December 21, when Jupiter will overtake it and they will reverse positions in the sky.
- The planets can be seen with the unaided eye, but if you have binoculars or a small telescope, you may be able to see Jupiter's four large moons orbiting the giant planet.
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There is also a bunch of thicko's predicting the world is going to end as well during the conjunction
Well yeah, but only if Laura Croft beats Thanos to the Cradle Stone and captures both halves of the Infinity Triangle and opens the Chest with a blindfolded Jedi drinking a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster.
I mean, duh. Of course the world would end.
Re: just a coincidence (Score:1)
I didn't understand most of that but mention of Laura Croft with open chest got my attention meaning a part of me is standing at attention.
Re: just a coincidence (Score:2)
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Re: just a coincidence (Score:2)
There's no difference, of course both are coincidences. I think they're specifically pointing out the solstice coincidence because the solstice is of importance to some people, who may make a big deal about an alignment and the solstice happening at the same time. That is, there's nothing special about it happening on a solstice.
Out of curiosity, I wonder when was the last time there was a planetary alignment this close on a solstice?
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Out of curiosity, I wonder when was the last time there was a planetary alignment this close on a solstice?
According to Christian legends, the year of the birth of the hallowed bastard.
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IIRC - it's not important enough to be worth looking up.
Re:just a coincidence (Score:4, Funny)
People are downplaying this conjunction too much. Have you seen the photos [twimg.com]? ;)
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LOL. While that picture is a hilarious reflection of modern media when it talks about space, we are already getting pictures of Jupiter and Saturn in the same frame.
Seeing both planets so clearly in the same frame with Saturn appearing no further away than Jupiter's moons is IMO amazing.
E.g. http://www.iceinspace.com.au/f... [iceinspace.com.au]
Re: just a coincidence (Score:2)
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Re: just a coincidence (Score:2)
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Yes, it's literally co-incidence.
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As the summary points out, the conjunction happens every 20 years
The two planets' orbits are in a 5:2 resonance so for every 5 orbits of Jupiter, Saturn makes two
Source: https://www.sciencedirect.com/... [sciencedirect.com]
The two orbit in the same plane as almost all the planets, so when the resonance brings them together, they appear together in the sky
Some times they get much closer than at other times. This is one of those times.
It is a coinc
Starlink (Score:2)
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(slightly
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some people are just really into infrequent, cyclical phenomena
I'll ask you to leave my sex life out of this, thank you very much!
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This stuff is pretty cool.
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This stuff is pretty cool.
These two planets are even cooler if you have a telescope or a good pair of binoculars. The 4 Galileian moons are not hard to see. You don't need a big scope. My spotting scope is good enough.
You may also be able to make out the rings of Saturn if the inclination is good, although they may look like "ears" as they did to Galileo back in 1610.
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I can see the Galileian moons fairly well with my BRESSER Taurus 90/500 NG, despite being in a heavily light polluted area. Same with the ring of Saturn (resolution too low, shows like one single continuous ring).
Re:"Spectacle" (Score:5, Funny)
Yeah amazing how boring the lives of people who enjoy astronomy must be. I have the far more exciting and fulfilling hobby of bitching about other people on the internet. It's a far more normal hobby.
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That was awesome, Garbz.
It is, however, good to see that Barefoot has recovered the ability to form a sentence. For a few days there I was concerned he'd had a stroke or something because he was posting more or less random words.
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Not only that. I find myself occasionally these days agreeing with him. Maybe he's getting progressively more normal or my brain tumor is getting worse :-)
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That's concerning. He regularly disagrees with himself, contradicting himself from one post to the next.
Re:"Spectacle" (Score:4, Insightful)
It's certainly not as boring as the lives of people who never look up from their mobile phones.
Re:"Spectacle" (Score:4, Funny)
It's certainly not as boring as the lives of people who never look up from their mobile phones.
Lol yea, those people are idiots!
Sent from my iPhone
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Some people might consider the latest TikTok trend as a spectacle”.
Others might consider a planetary conjunction a spectacle”.
Different people, different interests.
damn cloudy days (Score:2)
Re: damn cloudy days (Score:2)
at night (Score:2)
"nearly 800 years since the alignment of Saturn and Jupiter occurred at night, as it will for 2020, allowing nearly everyone around the world to witness this "great conjunction."
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Its always nighttime somewhere on this planet
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But if the earth happens to be on the opposite side of the sun during the conjunction, most people on the nighttime side won't be able to see it.
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I'm curious to be sure I understand what you're saying.
> if the earth happens to be on the opposite side of the sun during the conjunction [ so the conjunction is on the day time side, and on the other side of the sun] *most people on the nighttime side* won't be able to see it.
Only a few people would be able to look through both the Earth and the sun to see it?
Are you trying to say the following, or something else I'm missing?:
If the conjunction of planets isn't nearly opposite the sun, it'll only be vi
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Really? This isn't clear enough? The Ptolemaic system isn't being taught anywhere that I know of.
Actually the only interesting aspect of this dumb thread would involve the next one, but none of us are going to be here in 400 years to check it out. Obviously we can't see such a conjunction if it appears close to the sun, but I doubt that the three planets and the sun ever form a perfect line. Therefore someone in a space station orbiting the earth should be able to see a conjunction even if it occurs on the
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Its always nighttime somewhere on this planet
The earth rotates. The sky doesn't.
The conjunction will be visible in the night sky just after sunset regardless of where on earth you live.
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Depends on your frame of reference.
No, it doesn't. Linear motion is relative. Angular motion is absolute.
Re:"at night" said Ptolemy (Score:2)
No, no, no. His confusion was rather deeper than that. Either that or he is still using the Ptolemaic system. Or maybe it's just a troll.
Re:at night [versus behind the sun in the daytime] (Score:1)
My goodness, even for Slashdot 2020, that's a really dumb thing to say. Are you a flat earther? Or maybe you believe in the Ptolemaic system and you think Jupiter and Saturn are orbiting the earth rather than the sun? So are you enjoying the music of the spheres, too? I'm certainly ready to bet you're an American. Probably a believer in "He whose name need not be spoken", to boot.
No mention anywhere in the summary or discussion of such esoterica as splitting the optical double. The FP was bad enough,but thi
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"So are you enjoying the music of the spheres, too?"
Yes , its one of Mike Oldfield's best albums
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I liked Tubular Bells.
The Great Conjunction Comes! (Score:3)
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Thank you, kind person. I have no mod points, else I'd upboat you +1 Funny, so please accept my gratitude for referencing "The Dark Crystal" and Aughra.
Already a cool sight (Score:5, Informative)
They're already pretty close to each other in the sky, so take a look in early evening if you have clear skies now. No matter what celestial bodies they are, I think it's cool to see two of the brightest objects in the sky so close.
Some fun facts: while this is the closest they've appears since 1623, it wasn't visible. The last time they were this close together and visible was 1226!
https://blogs.nasa.gov/Watch_t... [nasa.gov]
The last time they actually eclipsed each other was 6857 BC. The next eclipse will happen in 7541.
Also, they won't be this close again until 2417. Imagine what humans 400 years in the future will think of it. Will they look up from a nuclear wasteland? Or will they admire the "Earth-Jupiter" conjunction from one of Enceladus colonies? (Or both?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... [wikipedia.org]
Reminds me that there's a whole, changing universe out there that has nothing to do with my little world.
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Also, they won't be this close again until 2417. Imagine what humans 400 years in the future will think of it.
When’s the next alignment as viewed from mars again?
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They're already pretty close to each other in the sky, so take a look in early evening if you have clear skies now. No matter what celestial bodies they are, I think it's cool to see two of the brightest objects in the sky so close.
Some fun facts: while this is the closest they've appears since 1623, it wasn't visible. The last time they were this close together and visible was 1226!
https://blogs.nasa.gov/Watch_t... [nasa.gov]
The last time they actually eclipsed each other was 6857 BC. The next eclipse will happen in 7541.
Also, they won't be this close again until 2417. Imagine what humans 400 years in the future will think of it. Will they look up from a nuclear wasteland? Or will they admire the "Earth-Jupiter" conjunction from one of Enceladus colonies? (Or both?)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik... [wikipedia.org]
Reminds me that there's a whole, changing universe out there that has nothing to do with my little world.
The most important reason to look now is the weather could change before (and after) the 21st.
Whoodedo! (Score:1)
So what? Maybe if there were some control on light pollution, we could actually see the night sky in urban areas in the US.
Easily see? (Score:2)
Aughra was right! (Score:2)
Be on the lookout for sketchy gelflings.