American Sleep Medicine Professionals Call For an End to Daylight Saving Time (cnet.com) 130
CNET reports:
Twice a year most of the U.S. stumbles around in confusion while missing appointments, resetting their clocks and grumbling about daylight saving time. The American Academy of Sleep Medicine thinks we should knock that nonsense off and just stick with standard time year-round. The AASM released a position statement this week as an accepted paper in the Journal of Clinical Sleep Medicine calling for an end to daylight saving time...
The professional organization represents sleep medicine professionals and accredits sleep medicine facilities. "Permanent, year-round standard time is the best choice to most closely match our circadian sleep-wake cycle," said lead author M. Adeel Rishi, a sleep specialist with the Mayo Clinic and vice chair of the AASM Public Safety Committee. "Daylight saving time results in more darkness in the morning and more light in the evening, disrupting the body's natural rhythm."
Studies have pointed to health risks connected to daylight saving time and the sleep disruptions it causes. The AASM called out stroke risks, stress reactions and an increase in motor vehicles crashes, particularly in relation to the springtime clock change. "Because the adoption of permanent standard time would be beneficial for public health and safety, the AASM will be advocating at the federal level for this legislative change," said AASM president Kannan Ramar in a release on Thursday.
The professional organization represents sleep medicine professionals and accredits sleep medicine facilities. "Permanent, year-round standard time is the best choice to most closely match our circadian sleep-wake cycle," said lead author M. Adeel Rishi, a sleep specialist with the Mayo Clinic and vice chair of the AASM Public Safety Committee. "Daylight saving time results in more darkness in the morning and more light in the evening, disrupting the body's natural rhythm."
Studies have pointed to health risks connected to daylight saving time and the sleep disruptions it causes. The AASM called out stroke risks, stress reactions and an increase in motor vehicles crashes, particularly in relation to the springtime clock change. "Because the adoption of permanent standard time would be beneficial for public health and safety, the AASM will be advocating at the federal level for this legislative change," said AASM president Kannan Ramar in a release on Thursday.
I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:5, Insightful)
Standard time sucks. Permanent DST FTW.
Re:I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:4, Insightful)
Yes!
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If we're not going to get rid of the abomination of time zones, can we at least stick a definition of time zones based on geography? My location is physically UTC -8. Permanent Daylight Saving Time would just make things more awkward.
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What are you talking about? Physical definitions of timezones are arbitrary and only loosely tied to solar noon. I'd rather not have shitty hours of light because you are tied to some meaningless shit set up when the British Empire still mattered.
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Timezones were originally established by American railroad companies, not by the British Empire.
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UTC is based on GMT, which defined 0 as Greenwich, England cause it mattered at the time. Thanks for playing.
Re: I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:2)
And the metre was one ten-millionth of a great circle from the North Pole to the equator passing through Paris.
Arbitrary physical standards tend to have definitions influenced by the biases of their inventor.
Re:I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:4, Informative)
That doesn't change the fact that your time zone is (loosely) based on when it's solar noon at your longitude, and even if the Prime Meridian ran through Tokyo and the IDL ran through the middle of the Atlantic, you'd still be the same number of hours behind the UK as you are now, regardless. Thanks for playing.
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I mean, Solar Noon is at 1:30pm in some areas of teh US right now. No one is crying. There's no value to solar noon being at noon anymore.
Why would I want it to be true?
Re: I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:2)
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I literally don't understand what you're saying. Care to explain what "your body uses the sun as a timeserv, and expects a morning ping" means? How does that relate to solar noon aligning with actual noon?
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Not according to wikipedia [1], that says standard time was first adopted in Great Britain:
The first adoption of a standard time was in November 1840, in Great Britain by railway companies using GMT kept by portable chronometers. The first of these companies to adopt standard time was the Great Western Railway (GWR) in November 1840. This quickly became known as Railway Time. About August 23, 1852, time signals were first transmitted by telegraph from the Royal Observatory, Greenwich. Even though 98% of Great Britain's public clocks were using GMT by 1855, it was not made Britain's legal time until August 2, 1880. Some British clocks from this period have two minute hands—one for the local time, one for GMT.
Standard time zones for the US was a few decades later, e.g. an inauguration in 1883:
Charles F. Dowd proposed a system of one-hour standard time zones for American railroads about 1863, although he published nothing on the matter at that time and did not consult railroad officials until 1869. In 1870 he proposed four ideal time zones (having north–south borders), the first centered on Washington, D.C., but by 1872 the first was centered on the meridian 75 W of Greenwich, with geographic borders (for example, sections of the Appalachian Mountains). Dowd's system was never accepted by American railroads. Instead, U.S. and Canadian railroads implemented a version proposed by William F. Allen, the editor of the Traveler's Official Railway Guide. The borders of its time zones ran through railroad stations, often in major cities. For example, the border between its Eastern and Central time zones ran through Detroit, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and Charleston. It was inaugurated on Sunday, November 18, 1883, also called "The Day of Two Noons", when each railroad station clock was reset as standard-time noon was reached within each time zone.
before that:
Timekeeping on the American railroads in the mid-19th century was somewhat confused. Each railroad used its own standard time, usually based on the local time of its headquarters or most important terminus, and the railroad's train schedules were published using its own time. Some junctions served by several railroads had a clock for each railroad, each showing a different time.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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> I'd rather not have shitty hours of light because you are tied to some meaningless shit set up when the British Empire still mattered.
Do you mean you have a shitty job? Change your life circumstances until it meets your needs.
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Well, I mostly can work whatever hours I want as long as I get shit done. But coordination with other people (including at my job) is based on them being available typical first-shift style hours (e.g. 9-5). Things being open is based around the idea that most people who work in offices work 9-5. Etc.
Like, I cannot go see a movie at 8am in a theater because they don't show them. Nor will a nice restaurant serve me dinner at midnight just cause that's what I want.
See, no man is an island.
Re:I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:4, Informative)
Like, I cannot go see a movie at 8am in a theater because they don't show them. Nor will a nice restaurant serve me dinner at midnight just cause that's what I want.
Because you dont live in the right place. Have you considered Las Vegas? Not only can you do that stuff 24/7, even during this pandemic, its also cheap.
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Except that even in Vegas that's not true. While I can get some food whenever, there are plenty of restaurants that close by 2am. And the movie theaters I saw only had 6-8 shows a day, so no 8am shows. Try going to a Vegas strip show with a celebrity when you want to see outside the 6pm-12am block during the week.
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Re: I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:2)
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The whole point of timezones is that business hours are consistent, I'd rather live in a world where my cellphone gets a new time from a tower and that informs what's going on than where I have to ping Google with every real world request for a store hours so they can build a better profile on me.
Re: I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:1)
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Standard or DST, doesn't matter at all, they just need to pick one and stop making us change the clocks twice per year.
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Ditto, but northern people hate it. Do we need a civil war? ;)
Re: I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:2)
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Iâ(TM)m a northerner. I donâ(TM)t know anyone who prefers mid-afternoon sunset.
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Standard time sucks. Permanent DST FTW.
Nonsense! Just park the time at the halfway point between Standard and DST. It will make adherents to both approaches equally happy and equally miserable. Sounds like the perfect compromise to me.
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--I second the motion, RandomUsername99
/ move to approve and adjourn
Re: I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:5, Insightful)
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adjust your activities instead of screwing with the clocks.
I have no control over when schools open, grocery stores close, or when my boss expects me to be at my desk.
Re: I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:4, Informative)
I have no control over when schools open, grocery stores close, or when my boss expects me to be at my desk.
Your theory is that you do not have something to do with them not caring about your opinion. Its wrong.
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Noon should correlate to when the Sun is closest to being in the center of the sky
If we do this, I propose one thing: Set the time to half way between (ie. half an hour). That way nobody can argue which is best.
It also turns 'noon' into a special time, different for every little town. Noon can be celebrated for not trying to be 12:00.
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Would you rather have an extra hour of sun in the morning or in the evening? Personally, I'd want it in the evening. In the summer, it's already getting light at 5am here.. don't really need it earlier than that.
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Why should noon correlate with the sun's zenith? Almost nobody arranges their day schedule to be symmetrical around noon. The number of people who get up at 0400 and go to bed at 2000 is negligible.
So there's no practical argument in favor of having noon=sun zenith, and there is a practical argument in favor of having sun zenith around 1400 instead of 1200: people can use the daylight in the evening, and can't use it in the early morning.
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You really don't understand how this "time" thing works, do you? However, you do seem pretty good at projection and argumentum ad populum, so there's that, I suppose.
Re: I'd prefer permanent daylight savings time. (Score:4, Informative)
But I understand your desire for more darkness, as you must be one ugly motherfucker.
Did I just commit an ad hominem? Oops. Sorry not sorry.
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Ad hominem is not the same thing as an insult.
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Time is an arbitrary social agreement, hence argumentum ad populum isn't a fallacy and vox populi vox dei.
Slight preference for permanent DST... (Score:4, Insightful)
Though "not changing" is way more important than any particular time. Going even further, I would like the entire world being on UTC, and simply have my work hours be from about 1400 to 2350. The offset at any given location is basically an abstraction.
I remember 1973-1975 ("year round dst experiment") when they kept DST over winter, and I remember it not being much of a big deal to me: Evening was still dark too early (6-ish instead of 5-ish), and morning light was too late. There was much hand-wringing though (mostly "children going to school in the dark", forgetting that every child out in the sticks was in the dark waiting for the bus DST or not...)
Central Ohio is at about 40 degrees north latitude.
That said, I prefer not changing all the time. I am over 60 years old, and the seasons come and go so quickly now that it feels like it's always changing.
I don't have a lawn, don't worry about keeping off it... :-)
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Agree that permanent DST giving more light in the evening would have made my life in the UK more enjoyable. I also note that I worked in Stockholm for a couple of years and in the winter it does not really get light before 10am and is getting dark by 3pm. Of course the snow on the ground makes it all lighter looking under streetlights than this makes it sound. I don't think anyone is particularly bothered by the dark in the morning, why the rest of the world is so obsessed with it baffles me. Perhaps it is
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Forgot to mention that Kyrger's book included quite a bit about shifting time zones and clocks. Also included some stuff about the history of "sleep medicine" as a specialty and I think there was some stuff about the organizations of sleep professionals. There was definitely some stuff about the kinds of training for the people (nurses and technicians) who do the testing for various kinds of sleep disorders (under the doctors' instructions). Can't recall how much Walker's book said on those specific topics.
Great. The "daylight saving time" argument again (Score:5, Funny)
As if we don't have enough to argue about already this year.
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I propose putting the new time in the middle, ie. a 30 minute adjustment. It's the only way to end the debate.
Re: Great. The "daylight saving time" argument aga (Score:2)
Ah. I see you prefer the âoeworstâ solution.
Re: Great. The "daylight saving time" argument aga (Score:2)
Re:Great. The "daylight saving time" argument agai (Score:4, Funny)
And it always turns into two different arguments. There's the "no more DST" argument, and there's a "no timezones" argument.
I can get onboard with a "no more DST" because that means I don't have to turn my sundial twice a year. I know, you're going to remind me that I'm the one that made the bad decision to save money by getting one with a fixed gnomon. And you're right, but I know I'm not the only one in this boat.
But with no timezones and everyone on UTC, my sundial won't work at all where I am unless I re-cast the dial.
Millions of people will have non-functioning sundials under a mandate we all go on UTC.
I'm sure that if we all have to melt down our sundials, we'll be recasting them into cannons.
Daylight Savings is physically abusive (Score:5, Interesting)
Look, I know it may sound hyperbolic, I know it may come off as alarmist, but the pragmatic view of this time change is that it's physically abusive behavior we're all inflicting on ourselves each year.
The implications for a surprisingly negative impact on heart health impact *alone* should be enough for us to reconsider this bizarre ritual.
Let's stop this thing, it doesn't make sense anymore, if it ever did.
Time travel (Score:1)
Noon should be close to noon (Score:5, Insightful)
Standard time places the sun at its max closest to noon. Noon should be between 11am and 1pm.
Daylight saving time results in noon occurring as late as 2pm in places. For example:
https://www.timeanddate.com/as... [timeanddate.com]
Noon is at 1:50PM today. That is really late.
Keep the clock and the sun in sync. Adjust your schedule as needed.
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The problem with Odessa TX isn't Daylight Saving Time, it's that if you want to center solar noon it belongs in the Mountain Time Zone. Even if you go standard time year round you will still have solar noon occurring at 1pm or later.
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Why would I care about the clock and the sun staying in sync? We used to do that before time zones let us standardize.
Why do you think most people can adjust their schedule to whatever they want. Most people work 9-5 cause that's what's always been done. Seems easier to change clocks to that than to insist that everyone else renegotiate work hours.
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I'll see your "Since the advent of the Industrial Revolution" and raise you "Since primates commenced bipedal locomotion".
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Actually, we put a huge amount of effort to keep the sun in precise synchronization with the clock. Leap seconds are a PITA, but they are necessary to keep time from drifting over the centuries.
Re:Noon should be close to noon (Score:4, Interesting)
Better yet make it so that sunrise is always at the same time. Then you wake up gently with the sun every day, instead of hours too early or in the dark.
Japan actually used to have a system like that. The clocks were quite elaborate.
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"Noon" is wrong pretty much everywhere. Learn when noon actually is in your town and celebrate that moment.
(This adjustment could make noon more special!)
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Standard time places the sun at its max closest to noon. Noon should be between 11am and 1pm.
Daylight saving time results in noon occurring as late as 2pm in places. For example: https://www.timeanddate.com/as... [timeanddate.com] Noon is at 1:50PM today. That is really late.
Keep the clock and the sun in sync. Adjust your schedule as needed.
If we're celebrating "noon" as late as 2PM in areas, then clearly that term has become as pointless as your argument. Noon is nothing more than a reference to 12PM now. And pretty much always has been, especially for humans who live on the part of the planet where it is even more extreme. Try on 24-hour daylight for a few months....what value is the term "noon" again?
Adjust your thinking. Clocks are irrelevant in relation to the sun. The military proved this with Zulu time decades ago. Perhaps it's ti
Time Has a Meaning (Score:4, Informative)
Noon , specifically solar noon, is when the sun is at its highest point for the day.
In the U.S. and much of the world, the closest approximation to solar noon is Standard time in your time zone.
Standard time is the only one that matters and the only one that should be observed.
Time means nothing (Score:2)
Noon? I have finally seen it after 20 years that I am unemployed. Same for Dawn and Sunset.
The clocks are not the problem but our shitty working conditions. I wish I could get a reasonable job but every employer is an asshole.
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I wish I could get a reasonable job but every employer is an asshole.
This belief is self-fulfilling. You can't be wrong, if you don't want to be.
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The length of the day, and thus sunrise and sunset times, is a function of the time of year and your latitude. The only way to keep all of those constant over the course of the year is to live within 10-15 degrees of the Equator and to set your clock time such that noon approximates solar noon and leave it that way year around.
That being said, it's not sunrise and sunset times gradually changing over the course of the year that causes problems--it's the twice-a-year discontinuity caused by switching our clo
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Noon , specifically solar noon, is when the sun is at its highest point for the day.
In the U.S. and much of the world, the closest approximation to solar noon is Standard time in your time zone.
Standard time is the only one that matters and the only one that should be observed.
I propose unlinking the two. Celebrate noon for what it is - a special moment in each day. If we stop fiddling with the clocks then people could learn when their own noon really is.
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Standard time is the only one that matters and the only one that should be observed.
Why? Do you have to do some sort of special dance at noon to get rewards in your afterlife?
Or is it an even more pointless assertion with even less substance than that?
This was actually TRIED durring the 1970s. (Score:1)
This was actually tried back in the 1970s as an energy saving tactic.
It didn't save energy and everybody hated it. Newspapers were full of stories about kids waiting in the dark for their school buses seeing their puppies run over before their very eyes.
Seriously.
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Re:This was actually TRIED durring the 1970s. (Score:5, Interesting)
Liar. I was there.
DST was *instituted* in 1970, and it is what caused a lot of confusion. Energy studies by California and Indiana have shown DST doesn't save energy.
It's pointless circle jerk
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I'm a bit confused, I think you might be calling me a liar but we seem to agree on almost all the main points.
It was 1973, not 1970 - but that isn't wrong just less precise.
You were there, and so was I (but I didn't say so, I perversely liked waiting for the bus in the dark).
We agree that it didn't save energy.
I said it was widely unpopular, you were silent on popularity. Perhaps we differ here. Congress got enough heat that they called off the experiment early.
You called it a circle jerk, I didn't but I do
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it didn't happen the way the emergency measure stated, was repealed by October 1974.... and now we even extend DST beyond that to November. So we never gave it a full year shot.
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...And repeating a phrase from upthread...
Every kid out in the country spends the months around the solstice waiting in the dark even with DST.
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Twice a year most of the U.S. stumbles around... (Score:4, Insightful)
DST and political system (Score:4, Interesting)
I have heard of this loud complains against day light saving time since who remembers when, yet nothing has been done to fix it. On the other hand, China tried DST starting in 1986 and then abandoned it in 1992 [wikipedia.org]. What this wikipedia article doesn't mention is why. It was because nobody in China liked DST and every school, business and lower government evaded it by altering the schedule by half hour, so eventually the central government decided to listen to the people and discontinue DST(*). Here in the States where we claim to have a democratic political system, nothing has been done for all these years.
Food for thought.
(*) and no need to argue the issue of China having one time zone because it actually have two. Xinjiang is on two parallel time zones [wikipedia.org], especially designed for the Uyghurs.
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I have heard of this loud complains against day light
In Soviet Putinstan, daylight loud complains you!
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Woah, some DST trolls with mod points?
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Let's ditch the biannual switch (Score:2)
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Aside from the drawbacks already known by all, it is annoying to those of us with lots of mechanical clocks.
Meh. Mechanical clocks need adjustment every couple of weeks anyway.
People constantly calling for ending DST (Score:2)
...are pretty much the same people as those insisting the millennium didn't change as of year 2000.
You may be technically right, but everyone else is able to cope without the whinging, thanks.
I call Bullshit (Score:2, Insightful)
"Twice a year most of the U.S. stumbles around in confusion while missing appointments, resetting their clocks and grumbling about daylight saving time. "
In the age of cell phones and IoT-Everything that automatically adjusts the time, this is simply bullshit. Literally nobody has an excuse for "stumbling around in confusion." It's horse shit, and people just looking for something else to bitch about.
If anything, make DST permanent. There's no earthly reason our Standard time system needs to result in darkn
Huh? (Score:1)
Twice a year most of the U.S. stumbles around in confusion while missing appointments,
Most? A handful at best. I have yet to meet anyone in my decades of existence who "stumbles around in confusion while missing appointments" after the time change.
This is what hysteria looks like.
UTC (Score:2)
Greenwich Mean Time for everyone.
What difference does the number make when you perform an activity?
Non-24 sleep/wake disorder (Score:4, Interesting)
Think DST is tough? There's a rare condition out there called Non-24 sleep/wake disorder. It's where a body's circadian rhythm is not, in fact, 24 hours like the rest of the human race, generally closer to 25 hours or similar. That's essentially DST every single day. I actually use DST to explain it to people - you'd hate it if every day your body was one hour off. In two weeks, your natural "wake up time" would be 6 pm instead of 6 am, then a week later it would be 1 am. And it's not just a sleep-related issue - the circadian rhythm affects EVERYTHING, like your immune system, your cardiovascular system, your digestion, everything. You can't fight your circadian rhythm forever; there is no way to stay on the same daytime/nighttime schedule as everyone else - and unlike graveyard shift workers, you never get to acclimate, and there's not enough caffeine in the world. I know someone who has it - the only thing that really helped was either one-time doses of Ritalin for a few hours of mental boost, or a drug developed by the military to keep soldiers awake called Provigil, which is also not a everyday solution.
Most of the people that have it are blind, with damaged eyes - the theory is it is caused when melanopsin receptors in your eyes. Just like rods and cones, you have special cells in your eyes that are sensitive to daylight and send signals to your brain to regulate your melatonin (sleep hormone). There's a drug, Hetlioz, that is like an antidepressant for melatonin that is used to treat it in blind people. But there are some truly unfortunate people out there with sight who have it too, for unknown reasons, and it doesn't work for them.
Circadian rhythms are not something to fuck around with.
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my thoughts (Score:1)
My cat still think breakfast is 5:30a lunch 10:30a dinner 6:30p, she lives in CST not DST.
And I walked to the school bus in the dark, and we would got out to eat in the dark in winter.
DST did not exist.
So teach your snowflakes to grow a spine and walk in the dark, there are no buggie-men, and stay on CST.
Dicks (Score:3)
It's like the people in charge are keeping DST just to be dicks, no one I've ever talked to supports it.
It won’t fly because no one profits from it (Score:2)
Hence, who will pay for lobbyists to lobby for it?
Another solution (Score:2)
Once a year, managers could get over their tendency to have a panic attack if someone is a few minutes late for work.
That would relieve much of the stress that causes the harm.
it's funny... (Score:2)
...for years, nobody has brought forward any good argument in defense of DST - and yet, nothing changes and all initiatives to change something get bogged down in this parliament or committee or whatever.
Yes, it's an example of a disfunctional political system where nothing gets done if there isn't a lobby behind it to... support it or buy a relevant number of politicians, pick whichever fits your view of how clean or corrupt our democracy is.
West Coast for DST year around (Score:2)
So the reality is the governors of the three west coast states, as well as Premiers of British Columbia and the Yukon have all pretty much agreed that the preferred solution is to go to year around DST. This is what I'd prefer, pretty much because it means that in the dead of winter, I at least have some daylight as I drive home from work in the evening.
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This is what I'd prefer, pretty much because it means that in the dead of winter, I at least have some daylight as I drive home from work in the evening.
As someone who works 2pm-11pm and commutes, I have to ask why is this so important?
Congressional approval (Score:2)
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"Permanent, year-round standard time is the best choice to most closely match our circadian sleep-wake cycle," said lead author M. Adeel Rishi, a sleep specialist with the Mayo Clinic and vice chair of the AASM Public Safety Committee. "Daylight saving time results in more darkness in the morning and more light in the evening, disrupting the body's natural rhythm."
It seems like this is really only true for people living in northern latitudes - and, even for most of those, only true for a few weeks a year.
The right answer depends on a lot of factors, including how far off from the middle of the time zone you are. Remember that there's an hour difference in when the sun rises between one edge and the other. So clearly if standard time is best for the people near one edge, then DST must be best for the people near the other edge. So making a broad statement like they made is just plain silly.
Without question, shifting time zones is bad. But which one is best? That's arguable. That said, realistically, wh
Re:Silly arguments (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm in the southern latitudes, my main issue with it is having to wait an extra hour in the evening for it to cool down enough so that I can exercise outdoors.
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Wrong: Cooler air means more humidity and that's even worse.
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I think you are thinking tropical or sub-tropic, when I think the poster above was thinking of dry heat and arid....both have their good and bad points. Arid places can turn you into a vampire if its hot enough on the regular.
Re: Silly arguments (Score:3)
I like how you call someoneâ(TM)s preference wrong. Like you have a fucking say in what they prefer or somehow know alot their weather conditions or know if humidity affects their workout significantly. Hit that Valium fam.
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It's the neckbeard, it takes over the host when it senses another person expressing themselves nearby. Reducing close social contacts helps the neckbeard to avoid the risk of predation by razors.
Re:Silly arguments (Score:4, Insightful)
We are very good at measuring profits and costs off purely data-driven decisions. "When DST happens,we save up X$ amount of energy spending." Sure, that's very easy to measure. But what about its effects on the physical and mental health of the citizens? If we have to sacrifice one for other, is it really worth the savings?
It's not nonsense (Score:2)
All of this DST ranting is a good barometer of how dangerous mass media has become.
The goal is not to inform but rather to push buttons to get attention. Every year the whining and complaining over irrelevant nonsense such as this gets louder and louder.
Heart attacks go up by 24% in the Fall [acc.org], and go down by 21% in Spring. From the link:
"Data from the largest study of its kind in the U.S. reveal a 25 percent jump in the number of heart attacks occurring the Monday after we “spring forward” compared to other Mondays during the year – a trend that remained even after accounting for seasonal variations in these events. But the study showed the opposite effect is also true. Researchers found a 21 percent drop in the number of heart attacks on the Tuesday after returning to standard time in the fall when we gain an hour back."
Regardless of which time we settle on, doing away with the change makes sense in terms of saving lives.
It's not nonsense, and there's been a growing call for this change over the last couple of decades.
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Regardless of which time we settle on, doing away with the change makes sense in terms of saving lives.
It's not nonsense, and there's been a growing call for this change over the last couple of decades.
Oh give me a break. Try actually reading the article you are citing. It's a shift of deaths by a few days on both sides of the DST boundary.
"Whatâ(TM)s interesting is that the total number of heart attacks didnâ(TM)t change"
There is no evidence for "makes sense in terms of saving lives" there never was. If you don't like DST just because that's a perfectly fine but FFS don't make shit up to support your opinion.
Re: Media attention to irrelevant nonsense (Score:2)