California Reports First Human Plague Case In 5 Years (livescience.com) 99
A California resident has tested positive for plague, marking the state's first human case of the disease in five years, according to health officials. Live Science reports: The case was confirmed on Monday in a resident of South Lake Tahoe, according to a statement from the El Dorado County Department of Health and Human Services. The individual is described as an "avid walker" who may have been bitten by an infected flea while walking their dog in the Tahoe Keys area or along the "Truckee River Corridor" north of Highway 50, the statement said.
"Plague is naturally present in many parts of California, including higher elevation areas of El Dorado County," Dr. Nancy Williams, the El Dorado County public health officer, said in the statement. "It's important that individuals take precautions for themselves and their pets when outdoors, especially while walking, hiking and/or camping in areas where wild rodents are present. Human cases of plague are extremely rare but can be very serious." The patient is currently recovering at home under the care of medical professionals, the statement said.
"Plague is naturally present in many parts of California, including higher elevation areas of El Dorado County," Dr. Nancy Williams, the El Dorado County public health officer, said in the statement. "It's important that individuals take precautions for themselves and their pets when outdoors, especially while walking, hiking and/or camping in areas where wild rodents are present. Human cases of plague are extremely rare but can be very serious." The patient is currently recovering at home under the care of medical professionals, the statement said.
And how is this news? (Score:2, Insightful)
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"Alleged". He was lawfully elected and had a peaceful transfer of office while meeting all criteria of being POTUS. Trying to reclaim TDS for your team by changing its meaning from "Lashes out at any mention of Trump" to "Blindly follows Trump" cannot and will not catch on. Before you go full TDS and start the aformentioned lashing out, you are reminded that the presidential election has never considered the popular vote, and that impeachment does not automatically or eventually remove from office.
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Both candidates show signs of dementia as they would be the oldest presidents in the US if elected. At least biden seem to be the Nice Guy Dementia while Trump is the bitter cruel man dementia.
That said, the speak of Dementia on either candidate is more likely just political propaganda. So you really shouldn't give it too much credit. As they are just trying to scare you into making a good choice.
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Biden has a well-documented history of perversion, mistreatment of women
Oh? Does he "grab 'em by the pussy", too?
Glass houses, mate.
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> As long as enough people are voting for "not Trump" it's all good.
Last election lots of people voted for "not Hillary", and we all know how that turned out.
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This whole TDS business is so infuriating. It's dismissive of all the legitimate reasons to criticize Trump's Presidency. He's childish, makes fun of women and the disabled, ignores science, lies, makes up school yard nicknames for people he doesn't like, surrounds himself with felons... He's so far out of his league on the world stage that it's embarrassing. Dismissing his detractors as suffering from some invented syndrome is the same as admitting that there is no real defense for his failures.
I completely agree with you. However this has been an issue for at least the last two presidents. FYI, my first real memories of the office of POTUS goes back to the mess with Nixon.
What you stated can also be said of detractors of president Obama. Any legitimate criticism was brushed off with claims of racism.
He's childish, makes fun of women and the disabled, ignores science, lies, makes up school yard nicknames for people he doesn't like, surrounds himself with felons...
Most of this can also be said of president Obama, though he was usually more subtle.
He's so far out of his league on the world stage that it's embarrassing.
Again, this was a problem with Obama as well. His first term was very telling of his inexperience.
Dismissing his detractors as suffering from some invented syndrome is the same as admitting that there is no real defense for his failures.
And dismissing d
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Treat this disease. (Score:2)
TDS is a persistent disease that is hard to treat.
Maybe you should try treating TDS with Hydroxychloroquine? Or Oleandrine?
Or try shining UV-light from inside the body (up thee arse) combined with bleach injections?
Also, looking forward to having 4 more year of making fun of your country and the idiot you elected as a president, while feeling superior with our better democraties and/or better electoral systems.
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TDS comes in two forms.
In each, the patient has an extreme emotional response to Donald Trump, which limits reasoning ability, including but not limited to: the ability to recognize hypocrisy, the ability to detect B.S., the ability to correctly identify sarcasm, belief in ludicrous claims on limited or nonexistent evidence (and even in the presence of evidence to the contrary), the willingness to believe claims of people who have lied in the past, and more.
The best-known form, TDS-D, afflicts Democrats.
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With all the poor living conditions, trash and health conditions there with the rats of the cities, I'm sure we'll see even more of this until they can clean the streets up and start preventing this again like in the old days.
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What sort of "plague"?
Black death, Bubonic, ... ?
Re:Has anyone told the president?? (Score:5, Informative)
Confusingly enough Plague is the name of the disease. Bubonic is one of a few forms it can take based on what it infects. I guess its the medical equivalent to a genericized trademark. Normies used to understand Plague was a specific disease but now they use it to describe any pandemic. I guess that just goes to show how big the black death was hat every pandemic since is measured against it.
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Oh, yes...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] :-)
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I was wonder the same, and noting that Dr Drew was expecting it to come two years ago: https://drdrew.com/2018/dr-dre... [drdrew.com]
Admittedly this case doesn't quite sound like what was predicted.
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Don't tell the POTUS or he'll soon claim that it came from China and that he's gonna deal with personally.
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Well, as it happens, it does come from China as was shown some years ago by a friend https://www.pnas.org/content/96/24/14043.
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I guess you never read my link. I will include the summary from the abstract.
"These data are consistent with previous inferences that Antiqua caused a plague pandemic in the sixth century, Medievalis caused the Black Death and subsequent epidemics during the second pandemic wave, and Orientalis caused the current plague pandemic."
Given that we are talking about the current version of Yersinia pestis, I stand by my statement that it came from China.
I agree with you as to the OP probable motive, just trying t
Remind me again... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Remind me again... (Score:4, Funny)
They were hires of the California state government, their applications had to be accepted due to the non-discrimination laws.
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He appoints them. Well, kind. Indirectly. By simply not doing his job.
Like ... well, so.
Horse PERSONS dammit! (Score:2)
Join the 21st century!
Re:Remind me again... (Score:4, Funny)
ya, he'll do that but the GAO will label them as not duly appointed and hence without portfolio. Then he'll put them to work as Acting Under-Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
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But he'll fire two of them, complain about the third, and the fourth will be taking over as chief of staff.
2020 (Score:4, Insightful)
I am wondering what the Mayan calendar has to say about 2020?
I know there was a kerfuffle about 2012, but WTF, 2020 has been a whole lot of disaster so far, and I'm guessing it's only going to get worse.
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I am wondering what the Mayan calendar has to say about 2020?
I know there was a kerfuffle about 2012, but WTF, 2020 has been a whole lot of disaster so far, and I'm guessing it's only going to get worse.
Well, according to the Mandela effect, we forked off the original Earth code somewhere around 2012. Don't worry though. I heard there was a Learn to Code camp given a few years back, so 2020 Earth code should be at least that good.
(Yeah, I know. Tends to explain a lot, doesn't it...)
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Next year will be officially renamed to 2020 2.0.
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Next year will be officially renamed to 2020 2.0.
Perhaps 2021 should be known as "Mulligan". Seems to fit rather well.
"A mulligan is a second chance to perform an action, usually after the first chance went wrong through bad luck..."
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Re:2020 (Score:4, Funny)
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According to Nostradamus, something bad had to happen between 1950 and 2050, here we are.
Bah... something bad happens every day, so that prediction isn't much to talk about.
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Last week saw Israel sign a peace treaty with an Arab nation. So maybe 2020 really was the apocalypse, and the apocalypse has already ended.
Re:2020 (Score:4, Funny)
Nah, the Apocalypse hasn't ended until the Rapture has happened. Mike Pompeo has his bags already packed. So did Jerry Falwell, Jr. until he posted those pics of his pants unzipped on Instagram. The Rapture is supposed to be when the Christian faithful meet Jesus upon his return to Earth.
My own personal belief is that this is not how it will happen. On a nice sunny day, the trumpets will blare, the clouds will billow and roil, and Jesus will float majestically down from Heaven. He needn't have floated majestically but he'll do it anyhow. Jesus lands and goes about on a meet and greet..."Hi Y'all, Jesus here, glad to meet ya." Angels will follow..."That was Jesus and he was glad to meet ya." Then Jesus will look at his watch (funny thing about Heaven, you cannot tell time there without a watch), gets nervous and announces that while it's been real, time's a'wasting and he really needs to get on with his Christ duties. The clouds billow and roil, the trumpets blare, and Jesus floats majestically back up to Heaven. He wouldn''t need have floated majestically but he'll do it anyway.
My apologies to Douglas Adams and the writers to Animal House for lifting and perverting a bit of their material.
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Ok, everyone line up for the rapture. Please arrange yourself by how important you are, the most important person stand here, then the next most important, and so on. Please, no shoving, let's keep this nice and orderly. You there, no slapping either! Ok, looking good everyone. Now the golden chariots will come down to pick you up. We'll be starting at the back of the line... What do you mean how long will this take? You can always take these exit stairs down if you like.
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Gaza has also been bombing Israel for a week straight. Interesting how that works.
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The issue is there are too many people not willing to listen to the experts, and mistrust their points.
Anti-Vaxer, Creationist, Anti-GMO, Flat Earthers, Those who think Wi-Fi and 5G causes cancer, Climate Change deniers....
This isn't from political preference, it is a general trend of not listening to the experts. The political bias seems to come into play on what stupid idea they disbelieve. Liberals tend to no believe experts when they say something is Safe, Conservatives tend to not believe experts when
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Experts? Flat Earthers are experts in Flat Earth Theory, " and have strong insight onto the area. Compared to everyone else who isn't an expert in that field, which may just have a passing knowledge of the topic, and never did the full research on the issue."
Experts can be wrong.
Mayans [Re:2020] (Score:2)
The calendar carver was dyslexic. It really ends 2021.
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Maybe Mayans miscalculated it.
Nothingberder is easy to treat (Score:2)
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Providing you get competent help fast enough. Even then mortality rate is of order of 10% (without - well over 60%) - and in worst cases the time between infection and death is 8 hours (usually a couple days though.)
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There's probably no pathogen that will kill you within eight hours of *infection*.
Plague takes several forms, depending on the tissue infected -- bubonic (lymph nodes), pneumonic (lung), and septicemic (blood infection). In the septicemic form you get bleeding, both internally and from the orifices, gangrene in the extremities, and widespread clotting.
Death can follow within hours of the appearance of *these particular symptoms*, but that's probably one to two weeks after the actual infection.
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There's probably no pathogen that will kill you within eight hours of *infection*.
True, but plague *can* kill you within hours of the first symptoms appearing.
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Typhus and plague are distinct diseases, linked only by the role (sometimes) of ticks and fleas as a vector. The article you posted mentions confirmed cases of typhus, coupled with worries about -- but no known cases of -- plague..
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We need sucky weather like your red states have so that the homeless go elsewhere. Actually, the Texas homeless rate it close to CA's, in part because it has almost tolerable weather.
The earth is trying to kill us (Score:1)
Don't Forget - You're Here Forever (Score:4, Funny)
"As punishment for your desertion, it's company policy to give you THE PLAGUE."
"Uh, sir, that's the 'plaque.' "
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I bought some flossers at the Grocery Outlet. They "remove[s] food and plague"
Maybe they can help this guy
It's endemic to the squirrels in California (Score:5, Interesting)
There's a pretty good nonfiction book about the arrival of bubonic plague in California -- Black Death At The Golden Gate. Basically, the plague came into SF, and became endemic for a while mainly in Chinatown where the cultural impedance mismatches made it hard for eradication efforts to work. Some states imposed quarantines on Californians or closed borders.
A great scientist, who was also kind of racist, came in to try to solve the problem and failed completely. Then another guy, not so good at science but very good with people, came in and got everybody working together.
By putting bounties on rats, they got rid of the plague in the city. Unfortunately, by the time they did so plague had made it to the wild squirrel population across the bay. Every once in a while, somebody will handle a dead squirrel and come down with a case of the plague.
(One of the reasons the plague never went too crazy in California is that the flea species Californian rats suffer from bite in a less disease-friendly way)
Re:It's endemic to the squirrels in California (Score:4, Informative)
It used to circulate in the squirrel population with a 5 - 7 year cycle when I was a kid, and it used to hit the borrowing ground squirrels pretty bad. The feral hogs wiped out most of the ground squirrels, and now you only hear about it when the oddball Sierra hiker manages to catch it.
Now THAT... (Score:1)
it used to hit the borrowing ground squirrels pretty bad.
Now THAT is a harsh loan defaulting strategy.
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Prairie dogs are loaded with it.
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the cultural impedance mismatches made it hard for eradication efforts to work.
I'll be damned if that's not the nerdiest metaphor I've ever seen in my life. Don't get me wrong, I love it--but I bet normal people just elide the "impedance" and read "cultural mismatches".
Plague is endemic in the US (Score:3)
Well, in Southwest, anyway. Very common in those cute prairie dogs. Fortunately it's easily treatable if caught early.
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Correct. All these folks who are attributing this to another sign of Armageddon or something are missing three main points:
1.) This is the first case of the plague in California within the last five years, not since the Black Death.
2.) The U.S. as a whole sees a few cases of plague in humans every year. (As in, you can usually count the number on your fingers.)
3.) We know how to treat it. This isn't the Middle Ages.
Testing positive is nothing, try dying from it (Score:2)
A New Mexico man has died from the state's second reported case of plague this year [cnn.com]
A New Mexico man has died of septicemic plague, marking the second plague case in the state this year.
The Rio Arriba County man was in his 20s and was hospitalized before he died, the New Mexico Department of Health Friday said in a news release.
Plague activity in New Mexico is usually highest during the summer months, so it is especially important now to take precautions to avoid rodents and their fleas which can expose you to plague," said Department of Health Secretary Kathy Kunkel.
In recent decades, an average of seven cases of human plague have been reported each year in the United States, with a range of 1 to 17 cases per year, the CDC reports.
Prairie Dogs in New Mexico carry the plague. I've been to places where they have signs posted warning you of it, written in big scary letters. I also have some prairie dogs living just down the street, in the middle of a residential area.
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The rest of the country has considered California and Californians a plague for decades.
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You're just jealous because they have the fifth largest economy in the world and their women are more beautiful than yours.
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Their economy is a disaster.
Their power infrastructure is worse, and woke government is incapable of accepting how to fix it.
Homeless people fill public spaces, and Los Angeles city hall has a regular service coming around to clear the piles of human waste from the building's basement window wells.
People are leaving the state in droves.
Yes, much to be "envious" of.
India has a huge economy (coincidentally the ACTUALLY 5th-largest), it's still a total shithole complete with smell of feces in every city...you
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Their economy is a disaster.
Covid aside, we've been operating in the black. Tell us again how that's a disaster. There are plenty of states that can only wish they could accomplish that.
Their power infrastructure is worse, and woke government is incapable of accepting how to fix it.
If our government was really "woke" it would destroy PG&E and take over their infrastructure. It's refusal to behave in a truly socialist fashion that is the problem here. California's government is as capitalistic as the next.
Homeless people fill public spaces, and Los Angeles city hall has a regular service coming around to clear the piles of human waste from the building's basement window wells.
Well, stop sending us your homeless. Take care of them in your own shithole states.
People are leaving the state in droves.
And if they're really unlucky, they'll w
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Well, stop sending us your homeless. Take care of them in your own shithole states.
Californians who believe the myth that their homeless are coming in significant numbers from somewhere else are just making a bad situation worse.
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Californians who believe the myth that their homeless are coming in significant numbers from somewhere else are just making a bad situation worse.
16% of Los Angeles' homeless admit to coming from out of state recently. That's both significant and also almost certainly understates the case, what of those who have been homeless for a long time?
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16% of Los Angeles' homeless admit to coming from out of state recently.
Not according to the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority [lahsa.org]. They say 10% of their homeless came from out of state within the last year, not 16%. Where do your numbers come from?
San Francisco also gathers this data. [sfgov.org] They say 8% of their homeless came from out of state within the last year.
You said "Well, stop sending us your homeless. Take care of them in your own shithole states." Thing is, a homeless person saying "I came here from another state" is nowhere near the same thing as a homeless pers
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So Hipsters are too cool for Covid-19 (Score:2)
My first thought on reading this was that some California Hipster was unimpressed with Covid-19 and wanted to go old school with his infectious disease.
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I know (Score:2)
"Plague is naturally present in many parts of California..."
The highways alone are a plague on mankind.
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Avoid like the plague.
Which plague? (Score:2)
Of course, I assume without RTFA, that they mean the Y. pestis bacterium, but when you think about it, SARS-CoV-2 has pretty much all the features needed to call it a plague: it spreads rapidly, infects easily, when it does kill it does so in a pretty gruesome way, and leaves behind lots of damage in those it doesn't kill.
Maybe it's time "plague" came to mean this virus instead of Y. pestis.
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Where in the country are wild rodents not present? Where in any country?