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Coronavirus Vaccine Tracker (nytimes.com) 39

Researchers around the world are developing more than 135 vaccines against the coronavirus. Vaccines typically require years of research and testing before reaching the clinic, but scientists are racing to produce a safe and effective vaccine by next year. The New York Times: Work began in January with the deciphering of the SARS-CoV-2 genome. The first vaccine safety trials in humans started in March, but the road ahead remains uncertain. Some trials will fail, and others may end without a clear result. But a few may succeed in stimulating the immune system to produce effective antibodies against the virus. The story outlines the status of all the vaccines that have reached trials in humans, along with a selection of promising vaccines still being tested in cells or animals. The closest to developing the vaccine currently is a joint collaboration between the British-Swedish company AstraZeneca and the University of Oxford, and their vaccine is based on a chimpanzee adenovirus called ChAdOx1. The vaccine has gone through Phase I testing and is beginning Phase II/III testing in England and Brazil. Supported by Operation Warp Speed, the project may deliver emergency vaccines by October.
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  • based on a chimpanzee adenovirus called

    Why not?

    Before you reply, remember, Dawkins says memes are physical.

    As he must.

    • A rush to market with a Dengue Fever vaccine in the Philippines resulted in multiple instances of adverse reactions:

      The U.S. Food and Drug Administration just approved one of the most sought after vaccines in recent decades. It's the world's first vaccine to prevent dengue fever — a disease so painful that its nickname is "breakbone fever."

      The vaccine, called Dengvaxia, is aimed at helping children in Puerto Rico and other U.S. territories where dengue is a problem.

      But this vaccine has a dark —

      • And then there's Polio... [ucsf.edu]

        Slashdot apparently doesn't accept evolution when it comes to vaccines. So I'll await the standard downmod for suggesting caution and careful vetting.

      • Would you rather wait 1 year or less and maybe get a working safe vaccine,
        *or*
        Would you rather go through 5-10 years of having to wear a fucking mask over your face and not be allowed to get closer than 6 feet to any other human being?

        Take your time, choose wisely.
        • That is a false choice, 5-10 years to develop and test and manufacture a new vaccine is just as much a lie and doing the same thing in 6 months. People in the industry have been saying 18 months for quite a while

          They know exactly what they are doing with seasonal flu vaccines, and it STILL takes 6 months just to manufacture the doses

          To promise a NEW vaccine to be developed, tested AND manufactured in the same amount of time is bull shit

          If they deliver something that is either ineffective or dangerous, due t

  • by Gravis Zero ( 934156 ) on Wednesday June 10, 2020 @12:14PM (#60167946)

    I don't care what anyone says, I'm getting all 135 coronavirus vaccinations. It's the only way to be safe. ;)

    • I don't care what anyone says, I'm getting all 135 coronavirus vaccinations. It's the only way to be safe. ;)

      I'm not sure my arm can take that... and it'll be even worse if the shot has to go into the gluteus maximus.

    • 135.

      Was that one of those Elect whistles?

      If so, well played, sir. I'll vandalize a pentagram in your honor.

    • by ffkom ( 3519199 )
      It would be safe to assume at least one of them causes adverse side effects.

      One of the reasons no vaccines have made it to the market for any of the long circulating corona virus varieties is the proven difficulty to make such a vaccine so very free of adverse side effects that its benefits outweigh the risks.

      You definitely don't want to cause another Cutter incident [wikipedia.org].
    • I say we take off and nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure...

  • Government can guarantee these developments if necessary. In an earlier discussion of test kits, $1000 per kit sounds idiotically unreasonable, for the US alone that would be 320 million x $1000 = $320 billion. Yet the US has spent well over $3 trillion, with trillions more to come, just this year alone.

    Anything that can knock a month or two off the shutdown is worth moonshot pricing.

    • Imagine if we spent anything on vaccines like we spent on the military-industrial complex and the police. The police buy their toys at a 95% discount with the federal government subsidizing the bulk, as well as equipment and materiel transfers from the military, which have to be paid for the first time around.

    • In an earlier discussion of test kits, $1000 per kit sounds idiotically unreasonable

      Test kits don't cost $1K per. I get notifications pretty regularly (a couple-three times per month) of free coronavirus testing available somewhere near me on a particular day....

      That said, assume a minimum of three test kits per person. At least two of which are to establish that you don't have it anymore....

    • In Germany the labs are charging the health insurances 50 to 60 Euro per test. I really don't get the US prices in the health sector, it is always like that.
    • A small German company mass produces a test kit since early January. It costs $180 and is for 100 tests, so it is $1.80 per test. And that test is very reliable.
      It is really not understandable what happened in the US regarding that. How they turn off competition in the health sector and get extreme prices and sometimes bad results out of it.
      That's about the company: https://www.bloomberg.com/news... [bloomberg.com]
      • The test kit is a couple of vials filled with chemicals. You need a really expensive machine, a certified laboratory, other consumables, staff that can operate it. Not to mention logistics around sample collection, transport, and bookkeeping.

        And in case of high demand, the Invisible Hand of the Free Market will balance supply and demand...

        • Yet the German laboratories do this for 50€ per test ...
          Maybe it is just a different culture. There was no artificial scarcity, and at least this first manufacturer could easily have taken more money for the test kits. So they were not the best businessmen. Everyone was just what was needed to get through the pandemic.
  • Why bother? (Score:2, Funny)

    by Merk42 ( 1906718 )
    hydroxychloroquine is the one true answer and anything that says otherwise is just to be negative about Trump.
  • Who are we to trust?

    I think I'll wait until a few billion other people try it first. It's not the kind of thing for public beta testing.

  • Supported by Operation Warp Speed, the project may deliver emergency vaccines by October.

    Or they may get shut down by VIACOM-CBS via a lawsuit long before that.

  • Remember democrats declaring that there would be no vaccine before 2021, and that Trump was a 'cheerleader'? Here are some of the news stories from when Trump announced this (hint, it's all negative). I love this quote from CNN, "Trump will miss his stated goal for a vaccine and then blame others for it somehow". Now it turns out Trump was right. One one news network shared the correct information from the beginning, guess which one (hint, it's not one of the organizations below).

    https://abcnews.go.com/Poli [go.com]

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      One thing you really want to know about a vaccine before you distribute it to hundreds of millions of people is whether it's safe on the time scale of several months. And, realistically, the only way to be sure is to give it to a bunch of people and monitor them for several months. The discussions of having an emergency vaccine ready by October are because that's the trade-off they've decided on for populations that are willing to accept more risk of a failed vaccine due to being at more risk from the virus
    • Remember democrats declaring that there would be no vaccine before 2021, and that Trump was a 'cheerleader'? Here are some of the news stories from when Trump announced this (hint, it's all negative). I love this quote from CNN, "Trump will miss his stated goal for a vaccine and then blame others for it somehow". Now it turns out Trump was right. One one news network shared the correct information from the beginning, guess which one (hint, it's not one of the organizations below).

      https://abcnews.go.com/Politic... [go.com]
      https://www.washingtonpost.com... [washingtonpost.com]
      https://www.nbcnews.com/politi... [nbcnews.com]
      https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/30... [cnn.com]

      You're probably getting modded down because the real quote flies in the face of your straw man, not to mention the article that brought you here is from the nytimes.
      "If past is prologue, Trump will miss his stated goal for a vaccine and then blame others for it somehow. But we all -- no matter your partisan leanings -- should be rooting against that and for a true medical miracle that produces a vaccine as soon as possible."

      The goal is still:
      "substantial quantities of a safe and effective vaccine available

      • by Tolvor ( 579446 )

        I get modded down because I'm generally a conservative, and believe in facts. Some people on Slashdot unfortunately down mod based on whether they agree rather than on the merits of the argument. I myself am willing to change my opinion if someone gives me a compelling logical argument on why to do so.

        But yes, CNN is say they *hope* that there will be a vaccine, but that it isn't going to happen. You are stressing that CNN said that they hope there is. But you gloss over that the CNN is actually saying that

        • But yes, CNN is say they *hope* that there will be a vaccine, but that it isn't going to happen. You are stressing that CNN said that they hope there is. But you gloss over that the CNN is actually saying that it isn't going to happen short of a "miracle".

          I read the CNN article you linked above. Nowhere in it did they say that it wasn't going to happen, nor did the say anything about a "miracle". They stated his goal, mentioned that he did say he wasn't sure we'd get to his goal, then said that nothing will return to normal without a vaccine and so they hoped he could make good on his promise. They moved on to say he wasn't a medical doctor, but that presidential leadership does matter and so maybe he can exert some influence.

          Only at the very end did the

          • In the CNN article (that you read), it states quite clearly "Trump will miss his stated goal for a vaccine and then blame others for it somehow".

            • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

              by Twisted64 ( 837490 )
              For those who don't want to read it, it's essentially an opinion box at the end of the article:

              If past is prologue, Trump will miss his stated goal for a vaccine and then blame others for it somehow. But we all -- no matter your partisan leanings -- should be rooting against that and for a true medical miracle that produces a vaccine as soon as possible.

    • by spitzak ( 4019 )

      Checked again, and once again you guys are misquoting articles, and then have the gall to say you are standing up for "truth" against the "fake news".

      You seem to have dropped the words "If past is prologue" and the further sentence "We should all be rooting for this to happen", and the overall fact that this sentence is at the END OF THE ARTICLE!!!!

  • We are not exactly sure that any vaccine will work for more than three months or that anyone over the age of 50 will develop nutralising antibodies. Its a bit premature to start a political war over a theoretical vaccine. We are still in a pandemic that basically limits your lifespan to 50 and a bit.

    • by satsuke ( 263225 )

      To be fair, a 3 month immunity window would squash the R0 factor in a spectacular fashion if the US were to not act like itself and the vaccine was freely available.

      So, wouldn't eliminate the virus, but do a lot to contain it.

  • Is that like NORADs annual "Santa Claus tracker" ?

It is better to travel hopefully than to fly Continental.

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