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Aggregate Data From Connected Scales Shows Minimal Weight Gains During Lockdowns (expressnews.com) 55

"Data from connected scale users suggests Americans, on average, are not gaining weight during lockdowns," writes long-time Slashdot reader pfhlick.

The Washington Post reports: Withings, the maker of popular Internet-connected scales and other body-measurement devices, studied what happened to the weight of some 450,000 of its American users between March 22 — when New York ordered people home — and April 18. Despite concerns about gaining a "quarantine 15," the average user gained 0.21 pounds during that month... Over the same March-April period in 2019, Withings said its American users gained slightly less weight — 0.19 pounds on average — though fewer people had the scales last year...

Dariush Mozaffarian, dean of the School of Nutrition Science and Policy at Tufts University — who wasn't involved with the Withings analysis — said he found the results a bit disappointing. "With the shutdown of the restaurants, I thought the numbers would have gotten better," he said. Home-cooked meals tend to be healthier than dining out.

Withings' numbers varied slightly for other countires. But citing a professor of medicine at Stanford, the article notes that average weight gains may be misleading, since some people "may be hitting their groove during stay-at-home orders by embracing cooking and taking up jogging. But others could be using food to cope with stress and gaining large amounts of weight." In fact, 37% of the scale owners gained more than a pound. (Which, if my math is correct, suggests that the other 63% had to lose at least .13 pounds.)

The article also notes that for buyers of Withings' scales, "contributing aggregate data is a condition included in its terms of service; its customers don't get the option to opt out if they want to use Withings products."
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Aggregate Data From Connected Scales Shows Minimal Weight Gains During Lockdowns

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  • by wes33 ( 698200 ) on Saturday May 02, 2020 @02:38PM (#60015322)

    probably not, given this is people who want to have and can have a fancy smart scale.

    • It's more that people vastly overestimate how many calories exercise burns, and underestimate how many you burn just to keep their cells from exploding.

      Also most Americans can eat as much as we want whenever we want. Not to ignore the problem of food insecurity that many still face.

      • Also most Americans can eat as much as we want whenever we want.

        Have you gone grocery shopping in the last month? The shelves are bare again.

        • I'm sorry that your area is having a hard time. But what I meant was is that people's self control over their food intake, or lack thereof, isn't likely to change dramatically, so I wouldn't expect their weight to change dramatically.

          • I'm sorry that your area is having a hard time. But what I meant was is that people's self control over their food intake, or lack thereof, isn't likely to change dramatically....

            I've lost 12 pounds while working from home during the lockdown. The main reason is that I run two miles on my treadmill during my lunch hour rather than having lunch. It's proven to be the only time that works well for me (morning and evening runs don't positively affect me the same way, for some reason[s] I don't understand).

            My desire for food has, surprisingly, diminished since I started this running habit.

        • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

          Have you gone grocery shopping in the last month? The shelves are bare again.

          I have, the only things I notice that ran out was OJ. And that I attribute to the sheer distance (Florida...)

          If there are bare shelves, it's a distribution problem, most likely a distribution center to distribution (long distance) center problem. This is probably because truckers are also suffering the effects of the disease - from distribution centers closing off bathrooms, to rest stops that closed bathrooms as well.

          Some enlighte

      • Also most Americans can eat as much as we want whenever we want.

        Most people in the west eat as much as they want. The difference is who can control their craving and who thinks the most noble death is to drown in a XL deep pan Chicago pizza.

    • Re-frased for the cynical

      probably not, given this is people who want to advertise their weight and can afford to advertise their weight
    • AND from that sample, the set of people who both want to connect their scale to the internet, and have the skillset to do so!

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        AND from that sample, the set of people who both want to connect their scale to the internet, and have the skillset to do so!

        This. But also rich enough for such a scale.

        I was required to do daily weighings because of heart failure (not to be confused with hearth disease) so I needed a new scale (ye olde analog spinny disk scale was fine, but why deal with calibrations and having to read the graduations when you can get a shiny new digital scale?). I ended up buying a cheap digital one with huge digits, back

  • by Voyager529 ( 1363959 ) <voyager529@yahoo. c o m> on Saturday May 02, 2020 @02:40PM (#60015330)

    Q: Who has a 'connected scale', has used it for a year, and is weighing themselves regularly?
    A: Someone who is concerned with at least their weight, if not their overall health.

    That's not going to change under quarantine. These people may not be hitting the gym daily, but there are plenty of exercises that can be done at home, and eating healthier food isn't that much more difficult since everywhere that sells health food can continue doing so.

    The people gaining weight right now aren't weighing themselves on connected scales, they're either furloughed people whose jobs had some level of fitness-giving (boxes and ladders and walking a mile or two over the course of an eight hour retail shift for example), and/or people who don't care enough and are likely eating Oreos and watching Netflix.

    They may as well be tracking gym memberships YoY during December and assuming that people don't gain weight during the holidays.

  • by alvinrod ( 889928 ) on Saturday May 02, 2020 @02:40PM (#60015332)
    I've been unable to go the gym so my exercise has been a lot more limited. On the other hand I also haven't been able to eat out or go to out to the bar either. I would imagine other people have some trade-offs of their own, both good and bad.

    I suspect that it balances out for the most part, at least in terms of weight gain. I'm more concerned that just being more sedentary for a month has made it more likely for me to remain that way going forward. It's a lot easier to go back to eating out or going to the bar than it is to get in the habit of going to the gym regularly.
  • by Anachronous Coward ( 6177134 ) on Saturday May 02, 2020 @02:46PM (#60015358)

    My pants tell me if I'm gaining weight. So smart!

    Even smarter, I haven't been putting them on.

    • I think it is safe to say from this evidence that yes, you are gaining weight.

    • DontBeAMoran : I've stopped wearing pants too!
      Anachronous Coward: since the beginning of the lockdown, like me?
      DontBeAMoran: Eh, yeah sure, of course.

    • Even smarter, I haven't been putting them on.

      I recommend wearing smart pants weekly so they log your weight online and monitor any change. The last thing you need is to get to the end of the lockdown, go to put on pants for the first time in months and find you don't have any which fit. It'll be awkward to explain at the shopping mall, though probably perfectly acceptable attire at the local Walmart.

    • Was that you I saw on GMA last week???

  • I just went and checked my weight for the first time in a couple months. Nearly the same.

    I think cooking at home and keeping off of fast food, while reducing alcohol and snacks is offsetting the way less exercise I am getting.

  • that an economic collapse doesn't increase overall deaths [arstechnica.com]

    TL;DR;, the drop in economic activity leads to some suicides but it also means less car crashes. I would've figured more wars, but then last I heard Saudi Arabia and Yemen have a cease fire over this.
  • Fuck Withings and their no opt out data collection. Fuck them twice even
    • It is all the "tech" companies.

      Nobody is making "smart" devices that respect user data. Smart = Cloud = Data Collection.

      I have a regular digital scale, and the batteries last 10+ years.

      If you want connected data, buy a commercial scale with USB or ethernet, instead of a consumer "smart" one.

      • From what I've seen, Garmin is pretty good about it. They give very granular privacy options with their health trackers, and they do not force you into the binary choice of either opting into everything or going to hell because they don't want your money.

        • Turning off tracking after you've given them all your data is useless. This is what you give them when you install their app:

          This app has access to:
          Identity

          find accounts on the device
          add or remove accounts

          Calendar

          read calendar events plus confidential information

          Contacts

          find accounts on the device
          read your contacts

          Location

          approximate location (network-based)
          precise location (GPS and network-based)

          SMS

          send SMS messages

          Phone

          directly call phone numbers
          read call log
          read phone status and identity

          Photos/Media/Files

          read the contents of your USB storage
          modify or delete the contents of your USB storage

          Storage

          read the contents of your USB storage
          modify or delete the contents of your USB storage

          Camera

          take pictures and videos

          Wi-Fi connection information

          view Wi-Fi connections

          Device ID & call information

          read phone status and identity

          Other

          download files without notification
          receive data from Internet
          view network connections
          create accounts and set passwords
          pair with Bluetooth devices
          access Bluetooth settings
          send sticky broadcast
          change network connectivity
          connect and disconnect from Wi-Fi
          full network access
          change your audio settings
          run at startup
          draw over other apps
          control vibration
          prevent device from sleeping
          modify system settings
          Google Play license check
          read Google service configuration

    • More of a question is "Who buys this stuff?" Seriously, I imagine you have to give your scale your wifi password for this to work. I am going to give my scale access to my network. Really. Or worse, do I need to get a data plan for my scale? Who needs Chinese style government invasion of privacy when westerners happily invite corporations into their bathrooms, microphones throughout the house and cameras at their front doors. How long before people buy something where they get naked, the thing measures them
    • by PPH ( 736903 )

      So how do these things work with 4 or 5 people (not counting the cats and dogs) living in one house, forgetting to change the user number for each weighing?

      Had a friend who bought a fancy recording blood pressure cuff for his hypertension. His girlfriend started measuring her own BP, plus occasionally letting a friend try it out. All with the same user ID. He uploads the data to his cardiologist and is told that he's either 10 minutes away from a heart attack or everyone in the neighborhood is using his cu

    • by Jerk2 ( 1153835 )
      I think I would start sending in the weight of my dogs, chairs, me with holding 40 lbs of books, then after I did my morning bathroom duties. Invite people to over to try it.. THere has to be some easy to mess with their data.
  • USA lifestyle is already so sedentary on average that being enclaustrated at home makes no difference XD

  • Not being able to go to my local pub and a couple of sugary alcoholic drinks several times a week has me down about five pounds.

  • "Home-cooked meals tend to be healthier than dining out"

    Normally perhaps, but don't forget that there's a stay-at-home order in most places. That means that the majority of people won't be going shopping for fresh vegetables and such nearly as often, and those "homecooked meals" will consists of a lot more canned food and TV dinners than they would under normal circumstances, negating the home-cooked benefit.

    • by pavon ( 30274 )

      First there are no rate restrictions on going to the grocery store, so if someone wants to continue making multiple trips a week they can. Secondly, the vast majority of fresh produce keep fine in the fridge for a week. The main exceptions are berries. The whole "you need to do multiple small grocery trips through the week to eat healthy" attitude is mostly just cultural (how things were done in urban environments before modern food storage), and largely unfounded.

  • Granted, I started losing weight at the beginning of February, but I'm down 40lbs since then, with limited exercise the past month or so (since my gym closed). I'm doing straight caloric restriction (goal of 1500 cal a day) and not really having restaurants open has really helped reduce temptations. Plus, with my company having us all work from home I don't get the occasional "free food left over from meetings) mid afternoon snack temptations either.

    • by pavon ( 30274 )

      Simular here. I've lost 5 pounds working from home mostly due to not eating at the company cafeteria for lunch. Meanwhile, my wife who is a nurse, has been extremely frustrated with the endless barrage of free donuts and other junk food which have skyrocketed since COVID-19 as "thank you". She hates eating that stuff but has a really hard time passing it up when it is constantly in front of her. Shit, she quit smoking more easily that it has been for her to moderate sugar.

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  • First, BMI doesn't factor what kind of mass people have. If someone were to lose 1 lb of muscle, and gain 1 lb of fat, that would be a signifcantly poor outcome, but wouldn't register on the scale. Conversely, gaining muscle and losing fat is usually beneficial, but also doesn't necessarily register on the scale.

    Second, 0.19 lbs per month, over the course of a year, is 2.28 lbs. That's a lot of weight! The article says that "In a typical year, Americans gain one to two pounds." Well guess what, typical Ame

    • If someone were to lose 1 lb of muscle, and gain 1 lb of fat, that would be a signifcantly poor outcome, but wouldn't register on the scale.

      Sure it would. It would affect the body fat percentage reading. Now, depending on the precision of the scale's body fat measuring algorithm it's possible that 1 lb would be too small to be statistically significant, but there is some value at which the a change in the body fat percentage reported by the scale is statistically significant.

  • >"With the shutdown of the restaurants, I thought the numbers would have gotten better," he said. Home-cooked meals tend to be healthier than dining out.

    If people who eat out ignore kcal and their TDEE, thats not going to change with cooking at home.

  • Just eat a bag of spinach. Like the bag that has somehow sat in the back of my refrigerator for the last 5 months. Now you dont even have to eat it, you just drink it. And I guarantee, that once you drink that bag of spinach, you will be losing some weight.
  • None of the stores have ramen noodles any more, so maybe all these people have finally resorted to eating fresh produce, which seems to be in stores in abundance!

  • It's not easy to say which way it will go. Lot depends on the exact terms of the lockdown, and what your preferred activities - if any - have been.

    Here, sport outside was never prohibited, so for runners like me little changed. Restaurants were closed though, and deliveries took few weeks to open. With all the cooking done at home, where we tend to start from raw ingredients, it more than compensated for a bit less running, and walking around the office (our campus is large).

    in first month of the lockdown i

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