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The New York Times Releases Its Dataset of US Confirmed Coronavirus Cases (nytco.com) 148

The New York Times has made one of the most comprehensive datasets of coronavirus cases in the United States publicly available in response to requests from researchers, scientists, government officials and businesses who would like access to the data to better understand the virus and model what may come next. From a report: The Times initially began tracking cases in late January after it became clear that no federal government agency was providing the public with an accurate, up-to-date record of cases, tracked to the county level, of people in the U.S. who had tested positive for the virus. The Times led effort has grown from a handful of correspondents to a team of several dozen journalists, including data scientists and student journalists from Northwestern University, the University of Missouri and the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, working around the clock to record details about every case. The Times is committed to collecting as much data as possible in connection with the outbreak and is collaborating with the University of California, Berkeley, on an effort in California. By Friday, March 27, The Times had tracked more than 85,000 cases in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and three U.S. territories, over the past eight weeks. More than 1,200 people in the U.S. have died so far.
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The New York Times Releases Its Dataset of US Confirmed Coronavirus Cases

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  • Seems apropos the NY Times would offer this data.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

      February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

      February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

      February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

      February 26: “The 15 (cases in the

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      Not very "publicly available" if you have to have a NYT subscription to even read the article...
    • Over half the cases - and about half the deaths - are in the greater NYC Metropolitan area (which includes parts of NJ). This is a city-based crisis, at least as far as the US is concerned.
      • Over half the cases - and about half the deaths - are in the greater NYC Metropolitan area (which includes parts of NJ). This is a city-based crisis, at least as far as the US is concerned.

        So, there are some downsides to living packed like sardines in a dense urban city, relying on public transportation, and not having any 'elbow room'.

        • On the other hand people living in the middle of nowhere have a good chance to die alone, and no one would know for months.

          • On the other hand people living in the middle of nowhere have a good chance to die alone, and no one would know for months.

            So?

            Is that any worse than dying in a city and no one caring?

            • The next hospital is usually way closer and so is the neighbour.

              • The next hospital is usually way closer and so is the neighbour.

                You seem to be thinking the extreme other case, which I am not.

                I'm thinking smaller cities....the normal ones across the nation where you see your neighbors house, but you don't share a wall with them.

                Suburban type areas....where you have a house with plenty of yard (front and back)....etc.

                You can readily drive to shops, grocery, etc....you have hospitals.

                That's the model I'm talking about...not the extreme rural (which there is of course)

                • Suburbia is fugly. I'd rather live in a small apartment building where the room saved is used for meadows and forests and where both public transport and walking is possible. Also, this way if I have a heart attack I'd be able to crawl to the neighbours' door and ask for help.
                  Actually, I already live like this.

                  • by Pyramid ( 57001 )

                    "Suburbia is fugly. I'd rather live in a small apartment building where the room saved is used for meadows and forests and where both public transport and walking is possible."

                    Exactly where is an apartment dense city where meadows and forests are preserved? No, Central Park doesn't count. It's not a meadow or forest.

                  • Suburbia is fugly. I'd rather live in a small apartment building where the room saved is used for meadows and forests and where both public transport and walking is possible. Also, this way if I have a heart attack I'd be able to crawl to the neighbours' door and ask for help. Actually, I already live like this.

                    Actually, I live like this in a 3 bedroom house, with front and back yard, covered parking.....(carport it is a bit older than newer houses which all have fully enclosed garages).

                    I have a nice look

      • Obviously this is going to spread fastest in areas with the greatest population/commuter density, but that doesn't mean other areas immume - they are just going to lag in terms of how rapidly it spreads.

        • Many of those rural/low density locations had infections well before NY (for example, Arizona had its first case 36 days before NY). It didn't explode. It's probably not going to explode, because geographic separation is basically social isolation on its own. In NYC, your kids all play in the same park - and thus they don't get to play. In much of the rest of the US, they play in their own backyard, which is typically fenced off from others. The risks of contact are much, much lower.

          This is probably al

    • by robi5 ( 1261542 )

      It's totally not normal that a journal collects and shares public health data with government organizations rather than the other way around. I hope whichever government agencies use it have paid for this data. Journalism is a waning business, but no journalism means no actual democracy for a long time to come. So it'd be weird if NYT sponsored the public sphere, rather than the other way around.

      • by anegg ( 1390659 )
        Hasn't the Johns Hopkins map and data (available on github) been available for quite a while already?
  • since they kicked out the journalists. No comment NYT?

    • by hey! ( 33014 )

      China has reported 55 new cases since yesterday.

      • Re: (Score:2, Troll)

        by guruevi ( 827432 )

        They weren't reporting any new cases last week and they got blasted by Taiwan and other countries. The WHO is just kowtowing to China at this point, there as of yet haven't been allowed any independent observers into China.

        • They weren't reporting any new cases last week

          Why are you always lying about this guruevi?
          CNN have constant updates [cnn.com] and mention China's new cases multiple times a day.
          All the corona trackers have daily China data.
          What news sources are you looking at if you can't find numbers from China?

        • They weren't reporting any new cases last week

          They have reported new cases every day. You're confused by the fact that for four consecutive days they had no new cases in Wuhan or Hubei.

          and they got blasted by Taiwan and other countries.

          Bullshit unless you have a citation. I've seen nothing about any alleged "blasting" for non-reporting... which would be crazy because they have been dutifully reporting every day.

      • by buravirgil ( 137856 ) <buravirgil@gmail.com> on Friday March 27, 2020 @11:47AM (#59878024)
        When I returned to China from a break on Feb 5th, the entire nation was under an advisory quarantine and the work stoppage already in effect. The airport was empty. No taxis. My transportation from the airport to my apartment had been provided by a private citizen.

        The work stoppage had ALWAYS been implemented by exceptions of necessity that were priortized for national needs. Among the first classes were government workers with social distancing implemented. Among the first classes were ordinary citizens involved with food production and distribution to avoid panic buying and hoarding.

        This necessary RISK has always been an aspect of China's policies. Having workers return to a spectrum of enterprises has always involved calculated risks and, therefore, very slow in its implementation: Incremental and accorded by necessity.

        What China's policies achieved was digging out Wuhan from collapse and preventing any other city from runaway clusters.
    • What is happening in China doesn't currently affect me or my patients at the hospital I work at.

      I'm staying in my own wheelhouse. You should too.
    • by HiThere ( 15173 )

      And you believe the US numbers, where they just aren't testing people?
      Perhaps South Korea is believable, but most countries appear to be lying in one way or another. Sometimes it's innocent, as in cases where they really don't have a public health system of any strength. Or the government isn't trusted enough by the people to do anything useful. (And yes, there are almost always valid reasons to not trust the government. But that doesn't affect the point.)

      The US has been denying that it's affected until

      • by Lonng_Time_Lurker ( 6285236 ) on Friday March 27, 2020 @12:28PM (#59878216)

        Hey now - US lack of testing seems to mostly be due to incompetence.

        Obviously we are lying about the reasons behind the incompetence, but we are telling the truth about the results of that incompetence.

        • by sycodon ( 149926 )

          If they have confirmed 85k cases, that means at least 85k tests have been performed.

          Since not everyone will test positive, that means more than 85k tests have been performed.

          We have 325 million people here. not everyone is going to get tested.

          • by skids ( 119237 )

            Massachusetts is reporting detailed numbers about the number of tests performed. The MA Wikipedia COVID page has the chart at the bottom of the page.

            At the moment it is kinda hard to tell how much the growth rate in MA is being driven by an exponential (though overdue) growth in test availability versus an exponential growth in people meeting the criteria for getting tested by presenting symptoms.

      • Anecdotal reports from nurses and doctors around the country are saying the number of deaths being reported is not correct. In some cases it's simply a lag between when the person dies and when that statistic gets added to the total.

        In other cases, and similar to what you said, people who die aren't being tested to confirm even though that is why they were admitted, or in some cases are being said to have died from the flu.

        More than likely we are near or over the 1,500 mark for deaths but because of the abo

        • by sycodon ( 149926 )

          It would be no surprised if anyone who does from any kind of flu related malady is classified as a Wuhan Virus death

      • by anegg ( 1390659 )

        And you believe the US numbers, where they just aren't testing people?

        My most direct experience is in Washington state, where we are definitely testing. The latest numbers of the Washington state COVID-19 website https://www.doh.wa.gov/emergencies/coronavirus [wa.gov] show 46,380 people tested so far with a 93% negative result rate. So US numbers aren't al crap, and there is testing going on.

        However, I read recently https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive [npr.org]:

        In February, Wang Chen, a director at the state-run Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences, estimated that the nucleic acid tests used in China were accurate at identifying positive cases of the coronavirus only 30%-50% of the time.

        I wouldn't be surprised to f

        • by HiThere ( 15173 )

          Maybe. It may be that the tests aren't as reliable as we believed. It may be something else. Some virologists have speculated that people can harbor reserves of the virus after they have officially cleared it from their system that can then re-emerge and become infectious. Or perhaps people can catch it more than once. Or something else. But it *could* be defective tests.

  • Paywall warning (Score:5, Informative)

    by guruevi ( 827432 ) on Friday March 27, 2020 @11:43AM (#59878002)

    The content isn't 'available' it's behind a paywall.

    Also, the NYT is claiming that no US government is providing the data, when USGIS and CDC have been providing zip-code level data for weeks now to all relevant parties and researchers which they themselves sourced to make this map. Many states and counties have been providing detailed data publicly to their citizens.

    • by guruevi ( 827432 )

      A more useful reference, besides having to source your own county/state reference (which Arizona and NYS have refused to do thusfar):
      https://usafacts.org/visualiza... [usafacts.org]
      Downloadable public data from January onwards.

      I guess the actual raw data being available just doesn't fit the NYT narrative.

      • A more useful reference, besides having to source your own county/state reference (which Arizona and NYS have refused to do thusfar):
        https://usafacts.org/visualiza [usafacts.org]...
        Downloadable public data from January onwards.

        Oh, goodie! It should be fun to compare this against what the NYT reports - and publicly ask them about the discrepancy if they come up with higher numbers.

        I guess the actual raw data being available just doesn't fit the NYT narrative.

        It will be interesting to see how it fits their reporting. B-)

      • Doesn't fit their narrative? Your link seems to be doing the same thing as the NYT is doing: "This county visualization is unique to USAFacts ... This interactive feature aggregates data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), state- and local-level public health agencies. County-level data is confirmed by referencing state and local agencies directly."

        It's nice to have a second organization doing this, but trashing the NYT and then talking up your own source for doing the same thing i
    • They have removed their paywall, ever since i think the first of the month.

    • Re:Paywall warning (Score:5, Informative)

      by tonique ( 1176513 ) on Friday March 27, 2020 @11:49AM (#59878040)

      The data are actually on Github [github.com].

      Also, you can read NYT when you a) disable Javascript and b) accept only session cookies.

      • You can also read the NYT for free by using Reader mode, built in to Firefox. It skips the paywall entirely.

    • "The content isn't 'available' it's behind a paywall."

      Delete your fucking cookies.

  • Is it anonymized? If not, how do they avoid prosecution under HIPAA?)

    It will be interesting to see a count by an organization with a political bias giving them an incentive to expose, rather than hide, the extent of the spread and the count of the dead.

    It could also help NYT clean up its reputation regarding accuracy of reporting, if they can resist padding the figures. Even if they can't, it will be useful both as a high-end estimate and to put pressure on the administration to release more, and/or more

    • by guruevi ( 827432 )

      The aggregated data is available from CDC and state governments. NYT is just blabbering about and guessing if the described method is actually the methodology they used.

      • The aggregated data wasn't available when the NYT started collecting it back in January.

        It's good to have an independent source.

        • by gtall ( 79522 )

          Yes, the alleged administration is above phutzing with the data in the same way a brick is above the Sargasso Sea (thanx Douglas Adams).

        • by anegg ( 1390659 )
          Johns Hopkins has made its map and data available since January 22 https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html [jhu.edu]. At first the data was on Google documents, then they switched to github.

          When and why was this map started? The map was first shared publicly on Jan. 22. It was developed to provide researchers, public health authorities, and the general public with a user-friendly tool to track the outbreak as it unfolds. All data collected and displayed are made freely available through a GitHub repository, along with the feature layers of the dashboard, which are now included in the ESRI Living Atlas. For a detailed explanation for the dashboardâ(TM)s development, please refer to this article in The Lancet by Professor Lauren Gardner.

    • by gtall ( 79522 )

      "Is it anonymized? If not, how do they avoid prosecution under HIPAA?)" What, you think the NYT is going to list the names of everyone? The NYT has a fine reputation in accuracy. Hell, they even print retractions when they find an error...unlike some other organizations we know of...wonder which those could be, eh?

    • Is it anonymized? If not, how do they avoid prosecution under HIPAA?)

      The New York Times probably isn't required to follow HIPAA. In general HIPAA applies to medical professions, not everyone.

  • What are the criteria for a COVID-19 death? I haven't been able to find this anywhere.

    Surely it can't be "he died, and he tested positive for the virus." So, if not that, what is it precisely?

    • by guruevi ( 827432 )

      Respiratory failure and pneumonia is pretty much indicative.

    • by HiThere ( 15173 )

      The test is the only really good answer, but yeah, those are too rare to use on testing corpses. There's also a thing in the lungs where all of a particular kind of lung cell died. I've heard this called "ground glass in the lungs" and "the lungs were full of pus", but I've no idea why those two things should describe the same thing.

      So, basically, if you want to be really sure you've got to do an autopsy on the corpse in an environment you don't mind getting exposed to COVID-19, and try to avoid getting i

    • I don't know, but it depends...

      In Italy it is exactly that, which is maybe one of reasons their reported death rate is so high.

      Presumably elsewhere, in addition to testing +ve for the virus, a diagnosis of pneumonia would be required, whether by clinical observation or postmortem.

    • by Cederic ( 9623 )

      It varies by jurisdiction, with each country adopting its own approach. I'm not sure how consistent the definition is across the multiple US states.

  • Why is this even a post? Johns Hopkins was 1st. It was setup on Feb 2nd. Here is the data and resources: https://github.com/CSSEGISandD... [github.com]. The map is here: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/ma... [jhu.edu].
  • As macabre as it sounds, the virus is a politician's and insurance company's wet dream. It targets the oldest and sickest, those who present the highest monetary burden to gov't and private health systems.

    COVID is a horrific but effective long term "stimulus package" for them.

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