In Fast-Moving Pandemic, Sources of Falsehoods Spread by Text, Email, WhatsApp and TikTok Elude Authorities (washingtonpost.com) 62
Misleading text messages claiming that President Trump was going to announce a national quarantine buzzed into cellphones across the country over the weekend, underscoring how rapidly false claims are spreading -- and how often it is happening beyond the familiar misinformation vehicles of Facebook and Twitter. From a report: The false texts spread so widely that on Sunday night the White House's National Security Council, fearing the texts were an attempt to spook the stock market as it opened Monday, decided to directly debunk the misleading claims in a Twitter post: "Text message rumors of a national #quarantine are FAKE. There is no national lockdown." But by then the messages already had spread widely, as had similar ones both in the United States and Europe in recent days. Text messages, encrypted communication apps such as WhatsApp and some social media platforms have carried similarly alarming misinformation, much of it with the apparent goal of spurring people to overrun stores to buy basic items ahead of a new wave of government restrictions.
The one claiming that Trump was going to impose a national quarantine included the advice: "Stock up on whatever you guys need to make sure you have a two week supply of everything. Please forward to your network." In fact, authorities have warned against aggressive buying that could disrupt supply chains and fuel panic. Trump addressed the misleading text messages at an afternoon news conference Monday, saying, "It could be that you have some foreign groups that are playing games." On the possibility of a national quarantine, Trump said: "We haven't determined to do that at all. ... Hopefully we won't have to."
The one claiming that Trump was going to impose a national quarantine included the advice: "Stock up on whatever you guys need to make sure you have a two week supply of everything. Please forward to your network." In fact, authorities have warned against aggressive buying that could disrupt supply chains and fuel panic. Trump addressed the misleading text messages at an afternoon news conference Monday, saying, "It could be that you have some foreign groups that are playing games." On the possibility of a national quarantine, Trump said: "We haven't determined to do that at all. ... Hopefully we won't have to."
"hasn't yet occurred to him" (Score:1)
"Definitions of Trump in one sentence, for $200, Alex!" :)
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Re: Huh? (Score:2)
I don't think he sees himself that way. What he wants is to be seen is as a brilliant dealmaker, not a military dictator. It's probably his best quality as a leader. I agree he taps into some of the same energy as authoritary leaders, but I don't think he has a long term plan. In his rallies he's living in the moment.
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But he's such a terrible deal maker. i know he sees himself as brilliant, so what does this say about his other abilities?
Re: Huh? (Score:2)
It's possible he's pretty good at dealmaking by real estate standards, but thinking you can do diplomacy is like thinking little league qualifies you to play major league baseball. You can't bullshit a foreign leader who have foreign ministries and intelligence services to advise him. In fact Trump's failure to grasp the importance of those things means that other leaders play him easily.
As many times as D****d T***p has lied to us (Score:1)
is it any wonder nobody outside of his cult believes him?
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Maybe I am. D****d T***p is still a liar.
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I just saw him channel Bart Simpson when asked about shutting down the pandemic response unit.
- I didn't do it
- I don't know anything about it
- Maybe Tony did it
- Could be an admin thing
- I didn't do it
For the record he did it.
Corrected link (Score:1)
Still behind a paywall, but at least the link is now correct [washingtonpost.com].
Re: As many times as D****d T***p has lied to us (Score:1)
Narcissist's Prayer
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, it is not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did.
You deserved it.
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Oh and it gets worse. Now he's claiming he knew it was a pandemic before everyone else, even though he actually said it was a hoax.
Does this gaslighting actually work on people?
https://thehill.com/homenews/a... [thehill.com]
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Here's Donald in 2018 explaining why he did what he now claims he didn't do: https://www.independent.co.uk/... [independent.co.uk]
"We know all the good people . Some of the people we cut, they haven't been used for many years and if we ever need them we can get them very quickly."
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It is September, after all. (Score:3)
And it always will be. Eternally.
Once we let the herds of passive-thinking livestock onto the Internet, it was game over. I could have told you that, more than twenty years ago.
They think the Internet is like the offine world. That it needs rules, and censorsh...moderation, and codes of cuntduct, and that what you say and do will vanish and that information behaves just like a chair, that you can buy and own and steal and rent and give back.
And that people will be honest and nice, as they have to face you otherwise. lol
They do not get that information space has different rules. It can be infinitely split, and you will not run out of it. Don't like somebody? Make your own room! No oppression/censorhip needed.
It is permanent. Once posted, it will never forget. Ever.
It only knows reading and writing. And hence copying and overwriting. And always lossless and at practically no cost. So information is infinitely abundant.
So any control over it, which is what ownership is, is purely delusional.
And since everybody can be anonymous, there are no consequences, and everyboy becomes a lying psychopath... or multiple (sock puppets), or multiple become one (account/IP sharing).
And as a result, their trusting offine mindset becomes a liability, and an automatic avalanche, a circle-jerk bandwagon in a filter bubble, rolling towards the dogpile of the latest scandal-meme.
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Once we let the herds of passive-thinking livestock onto the Internet
it needs rules, and censorsh...moderation
You came to the conclusion, but you sure did dance around it a lot. And then lost track of it.
To paraphrase the late sir Terry Pratchett (Score:5, Insightful)
A lie runs around the world while truth is still looking for its boots
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A lie runs around the world while truth is still looking for its boots
That's usually attributed to Mark Twain.
But in googling to double check before I posted, I see that it (probably) originates from Jonathan Swift!
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0... [nytimes.com]
Remember when Slashdot posted misinformation (Score:2)
And CureVac... yesterday.
Pot, Kettle.
Impossible to stop (Score:3)
It's not possible to stamp out every source of false information. Governments have tried since the dawn of time and failed. It's a problem rooted in human nature, so good luck eliminating it. All you can do is make sure accurate true information is out there. And one of the first priorities needs to be that the information you want spread has to not conflict with reality. If you try to claim a disease isn't spreading when all around them people can see new cases popping up, they aren't going to believe your information. If you try to claim it's not a problem when all around them people can see businesses shutting down to keep it from spreading, they're not going to believe you. If you keep putting forward contradictory statements, they're not going to believe you.
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I absolutely agree with the you, except the sad truth is that the public cannot handle the truth. For example, any politician who might even suggest that even some deaths are inevitable and/or unavoidable will be crucified in social media (and in the next election) as "heartless" and "not caring". This lead the government to sugar-coat the news, telling the people what they want to hear, which at some point ends up conflicting with reality, at which point people stop believing the source (government), creat
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Quick question, what happened on the 4th of June in 1989 in Beijing?
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The fact this question was not answered is proof that he is a CCP shill.
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They sent the police to stop the medical experts from speaking about what they found.
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Don't underestimate US's leadership to compete strongly in the BS Olympics.
We have the Iraq and Vietnam wars as gold medals. The new guy also seems to
want a medal. [washingtonpost.com]
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Maybe they secretly crave Darwin Awards (Score:1)
A certain percentage of people are just easily predisposed to believe conspiracies and fake news. A million clue-sticks won't fix them.
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A certain percentage of people are just easily predisposed to believe conspiracies and fake news.
In the U.S. that's about 46.1% [wikipedia.org]
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Many voters viewed T as an experiment: let's see what happens, shake up the status quo and boot dead wood.
That's not necessarily irrational, although giving somebody who tweets like a spoiled 9 year old girl access to The Button certainly should have signaled a yellow alert in the back of their minds.
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And has to be treated like a 4-year-old: Trump doctor hid cauliflower in mashed potatoes to improve diet [thehill.com]
President Trump’s former doctor reportedly hid cauliflower in his mashed potatoes in an attempt to improve the president’s diet.
Former White House physician Ronny Jackson told The New York Times that he regretted leaving his position before he could implement the diet and exercise regimen planned for Trump.
“The exercise stuff never took off as much as I wanted it to,” he said. “But we were working on his diet. We were making the ice cream less accessible, we were putting cauliflower into the mashed potatoes.”
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I don't understand USA politics. Not even half of the people voted for him and yet he was elected anyway. When I was in school you had to have 60% or more on your tests otherwise you failed.
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I don't understand USA politics. Not even half of the people voted for him and yet he was elected anyway.
Read up on the Electoral College [wikipedia.org], they actually elect the President and Trump won more electoral votes. Many (most?) states are "winner takes all" but some are now considering switching to proportional allocation -- and requiring their electoral college representatives to vote accordingly -- electors are often, technically, legally allowed to vote for whomever they wish.
Re: Maybe they secretly crave Darwin Awards (Score:1)
He received the plurality of voting precincts and the majority of state electoral votes. It's roughly proportional to population but not quite, and the winner-takes-all rule in most states can hand the win to someone who failed to get the popular vote.
Democratic Party failed to avoid making this a close election, even though they have know for decades they are behind Republicans on gerrymandering.
An unwillingness of both sides to change the traditions means you need a decisive victory or you're leaving the
Meanwhile (Score:2)
Moderately truthy news remains inaccessible behind paywalls. I'm surprised we don't see any headlines about that...oh wait...
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Paywalls (Score:2)
One of the big issue is that information is behind paywalls, while lies are free. Correct information costs a ton of money, be it competent journalism or scientific reports. To have the information, we have to finance it in some ways. At the moment, it's up to you to pay to have the correct information sorted out from the pool of lies that is internet.
Over here in the EU, we had those rumors (Score:2)
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Now its wuflu time.
OMG Mexican Beer virus!!! (Score:1)
OMG Mexican Beer virus is gonna kill us all!! Quick, MOAR CENSORSHIP NOW!!!1!1!!!!!!11!!!!!
Idiots abound (Score:1)