First Case of Coronavirus Confirmed In New York State (wsj.com) 110
A woman who recently traveled to Iran is New York's first confirmed case of the novel coronavirus (Warning: source paywalled; alternative source), New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said on Sunday night. The Wall Street Journal reports: The woman, who wasn't named, is in her late 30s and contracted the virus while traveling abroad in Iran. She has respiratory symptoms and is isolated in her home, according to the governor's office. She isn't in serious condition and has been in a controlled situation since arriving in New York, according to the governor's office. "There is no cause for surprise -- this was expected," the governor said in a statement. "I said from the beginning it was a matter of when, not if, there would be a positive case of novel coronavirus in New York." A state official said the woman is in Manhattan. The report says there's been a total of eight other cases in New York City, but all of those people had tested negative.
"As of Sunday, 32 people in New York, including the one positive case, have been tested for coronavirus infection," reports The Wall Street Journal, citing New York state health officials. "All the other tests were negative." If the virus spreads, New York City health officials said there are roughly 1,200 hospital beds throughout the city that could be used.
"As of Sunday, 32 people in New York, including the one positive case, have been tested for coronavirus infection," reports The Wall Street Journal, citing New York state health officials. "All the other tests were negative." If the virus spreads, New York City health officials said there are roughly 1,200 hospital beds throughout the city that could be used.
Re: 30% of US believe Corona beer is to blame (Score:1)
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UV coating the bottle or chemically stabilize the hops or otherwise removed most of the sulfur compounds, this let you use color bottle you want.
Not that Corona applies anything to avoid the skunk. It's a bare minimal effort industrialized beer with a huge marketing budget. It's supposed to smell skunky, and you're supposed to put a lime in it and drink it anyways instead of crying about it.
Probably shouldn't leave your Heinenken and Grolsch in the sunlight, it's not lemonade. After buying it I carry mine i
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That was actually an intentionally misleading clickbait headline to get ad revenue. If you read that actual article, it stated that 30-ish percent wouldn't buy corona beer under any circumstance, which INCLUDES people who wouldn't have bought it anyways, regardless of the current situation.
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Yeah, I'd say the bigger story is that 80% of people (and 95% of smug twitter people) believe that 30% of US people believe that Corona beer is related to Coronavirus.
Some people will believe just about anything if it lets them yuk it up about how dumb their fellow (or not) Americans are.
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And Florida (Score:4, Informative)
CDC just confirmed that 2 people in Florida have test positive for it [nbcmiami.com].
Re:6 people have died in Washington state... (Score:5, Insightful)
How is more testing going to prevent the spread?
Is that a serious question? Testing is what allows us to know what actions need to be taken in order to prevent the spread. Testing itself doesn't prevent the spread, just like taking your temperature doesn't combat a fever, but it is among the most crucial early steps in combating the spread of a disease.
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How is more testing going to prevent the spread?
Is that a serious question? Testing is what allows us to know what actions need to be taken in order to prevent the spread. Testing itself doesn't prevent the spread, just like taking your temperature doesn't combat a fever, but it is among the most crucial early steps in combating the spread of a disease.
The problem is that testing is usually done after symptoms, which is 14+ days after the start of virulence for covid-19.
Re:6 people have died in Washington state... (Score:4, Insightful)
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Everyone who they had contact with can then be tested.
Everyone else who is sick with wuful can then be found, tested.
Read up on what South Korea is doing with testing and later smartphone tracking AC...
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How are those preventative measures going exactly worldwide after all the testing?
Early measures were discussed, nothing was done because "economy" and "racism". Pretty sure not much is going to be done at this point either.
Stock up on soup and get some series ready to binge watch during your flu.
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How are those preventative measures going exactly worldwide after all the testing?
Pretty damn good actually. The identification of the virus as well as the identification of hotspots and epicentres has resulted in massive restrictions in areas where they are most likely to spread. All you see is a spread, but what you don't see is how a spread happens if we'd done nothing because (surprise surprise) we didn't do nothing.
Early measures were discussed, nothing was done because "economy" and "racism".
That's just your own ignorance. The USA started implementing screening less than one week after the first identification of novel Corona virus for all patients travelling
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truth is given how contagious it is, and how many "oh fuck, the horse has snuck out of the barn" moments we've had (and not just in the US, it's pretty much a universal) it's all but inevitable that this is going to be a world wide contagion -- and more than likely, it already is. The only thing keeping the count of confirmed cases from going stratospheric is the difficulty in testing.
You can't be in isolation, or wear a mask, forever. Maybe a vaccine will be developed at some point in the future, but re
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It's too late to quarantine people. There are just too many infections in the wild at this point. What are you going to do, test all of King County Washington at this point?
And then do what? Once you start testing and trying to quarantine mass groups of people, people will start evading the quarantines over fears of losing jobs, homes, etc.
We're going to have a pandemic, there's no question. The only question is whether it will totally ruin the economy, how many millions will die and whether we can get
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So is US less capable than China in this aspect ? ;-)
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No serious person believes China's officials or their numbers.
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China has billions of people and millions in the cities that got hit hard. They've managed to mostly get this disease under control in their country. New infections are no longer doubling at all.
Hong Kong seems to have it under control too.
South Korea is exploding, but at least they are doing lots of testing and will likely get this under control eventually.
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They claim it's under control. No independent observers will be allowed until China gets it under control, external involvement is at least one benchmark to see whether or not they have it under control, the lack of propaganda will be the other one. They put people back to work in the factories so their economy won't collapse.
Initial testing from test kits has proven in the US and EU to be ineffective and inconclusive, some Chinese healthcare providers had said the same until the government made them retrac
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Do what South Korea did. Test everyone who had contact with the people who tested for wuful.
Then test everyone else who had contact with the next hop of people who had wuflu.
Smartphone use and tracking gives movement patterns back over weeks.
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The only question is whether it will totally ruin the economy, how many millions will die and whether we can get an effective vaccine before it becomes endemic like influenza.
It's not too late to quarantine people. The mortality rate is going to be significantly lower if we can slow the spread enough that hospital capacities aren't exceeded. That's the real risk - that it will spread too fast for at-risk people to get proper treatment.
We won't have an effective vaccine any time soon. Not before at least half of this country is exposed to the virus.
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When you know someone is infected, you can quarantine them. If nobody gets tested, you end up with carriers running around completely unaware that they are spreading the diease to everybody they come in contact with.
Since there is no vaccine or cure for this yet, the only way to stop it is through testing and isolating those who are infected. They will have to sit tight and either their own immune system helps them to recover or they die and get cremated.
Re:6 people have died in Washington state... (Score:5, Insightful)
google epidemiology
If you test widely, then you know where it is occurring, who had contact wit those people and how widely you need to cast a quarantine to prevent further transmission
If, that is, your intent is to actively deal with it and not just pray that it goes away
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And, pray tell, how are -you- "actively dealing with it"?
Other than doing false dichotomy fallacies that insist we can't do two things at the same time, that is.
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Google quarantine
That is when you have identified people who either have an infectious disease, or have been exposed to an infectious disease and you keep them separate from the rest of the population that has not been exposed
These practices have been effective for hundreds of years, and yet we are not even accomplishing the first step of testing
how do you explain this?
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And, correspondingly, you have been advocating quarantine for HIV since the 1980's, correct?
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OMFG, I just read the other rhetorical garbage that you have been posting, and frankly go fuck yourself, please do not reply to me I do not need any contact with your brain-cancer causing thoughts
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So, no rational answer then. I'll reply to whatever I want, though. Best you get prepared for your very limited long-term situation anyway.
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while the US is charging $1.9M per test
It's not quite $1.9 million per test [imgur.com], but it's still far larger than any other industrialized country.
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The tragedy of the commons.
I hope you are just a kid and not a farmer, doctor, lawyer etc, the ones carrying on like it's not the end of the world, otherwise we really are screwed.
Texas (Score:2)
How may people will a woman in Texas who tested positive for the virus and was accidentally released infect?
Coronavirus patient visited San Antonio hotel, mall after she was ‘mistakenly released’ from isolation, officials say [dallasnews.com]
Ebola (Score:2)
Remember when Trump tried to cause mass hysteria over Ebola and tried to pin it on Obama? .. Democrat pansies are too weak to remind, say, or do anything.
All forgotten now of course
https://www.vox.com/2020/2/26/... [vox.com]
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This is your best attempt at a talking point? I think you may not want to open that door, dumbass, you're not as smart as you think you are. I agree Trump is a fucking retard and does the same shit he shrilly whined about Obama doing. But this is a tack you don't want to take because it makes you look foolish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]
When we hit well over 12k deaths from Coronavirus maybe we'll start talking about Trump's poor response vs. Obama.
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I'm sorry, but what specific actions (or non-actions) that Obama took is it that you believe made the swine flu more deadly in the US than it could have been otherwise?
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He waited until there was over 1000 dead before he did anything at all in relation to H1N1. While Trump was mobilizing and whatnot back in January. Remember? No? All those media stories crying that his virus taskforce was "too white" and "too male" to do anything. How he was just fear mongering, because it's "just the flu bro."
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How about yes. [cnn.com] Snopes is lying to you.
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Maybe you should learn to read. In October he declared a national emergency, which is a very specific government act. You claimed (and let me quote) "He waited until there was over 1000 dead before he did anything at all in relation to H1N1" which is unadulterated bullshit given that the Obama administration had started tackling the disease and restricting flights in mid April.
But I get it. You're brainwashed into thinking that you need to declare a national emergency for everything now at the drop of a dim
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And how many months were flights running while this was going on? It's not hard to look it up. Yes, I'd also consider that since the scope of the problem was already known. He did nothing at all. Remember there's a long line of things that would have helped mitigate those first 1k deaths(~3k americans died in total)...before it became a problem. After all, if you weren't brainwashed then you wouldn't be using bullshit phrasing like "keep the dirty mexicans out amirite" which comes cleanly out of prog
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When making the case that an article is lying to us, it helps to address what the article actually said.
What the Snopes article states, supported by links to further articles by the AP and the New York Times, is that the declaration of the national emergency in October was not the first action on the flu that Obama and his administration took. This began in April, when his administration declared a public health emergency after only a few confirmed cases had shown up in the US. This declaration was renewed
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I suppose if I cared beyond a surface level, I could explain why the article is lying. But if you didn't catch the weasel worded statements, then you should re-read the snopes article a few more times yourself, so you'd actually get it. Though if you ask nicely, and I'm not too busy in the next couple of day. I'll hold your hand and walk you through it.
Keeping in mind that unlike today, republicans saw it as a public health emergency and kept the politics out of it. Unlike today, where the democrats hate
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OBOLA
Beware the preppers (Score:2)
You should get enough torches and pitchforks now before the shops are out of it.
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Why? Do you think COVID-19 is going to turn people into ogres?
CDC is sleeping on the job (Score:2)
King County in Washington is now buying a motel and re-fitting it to work as an isolation ward. No help from either the CDC or the NSC. Army has mobile hospitals that can be rapidly deployed but nobody is mobilizing them.
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And CDC is sleeping on the job. They might as well just disband themselves, they are worse than useless. King County in Washington is now buying a motel and re-fitting it to work as an isolation ward. No help from either the CDC or the NSC. Army has mobile hospitals that can be rapidly deployed but nobody is mobilizing them.
And if I were a tax payer in King County I would be pissed. If these people are well enough to be isolated in some dilapidated hotel then they can self-quarantine at home no problem. If they are not well enough for that then they ought to be quarantined in a hospital. From my perspective it sounds like a move a corrupt county official would do to line his pockets or repay a campaign favor. It doesn't seem like a logical move.
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And if I were a tax payer in King County I would be pissed. If these people are well enough to be isolated in some dilapidated hotel then they can self-quarantine at home no problem.
And then infect all the family? Who perhaps can't all go into isolation?
This is a correct move.
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And then infect all the family? Who perhaps can't all go into isolation? This is a correct move.
Have you been paying attention? They say it may take up to 2 weeks to incubate and that a person may be infectious during that time. The remaining family members all have to go into isolation as well, whether they are sick or not. The only time this may not be the actual case is if the original vector into the family gets ill while away from home and is diagnosed prior to any contact with loved ones.
Plus what will the county do with this hotel in 6 months from now when this has either slowed down or has a
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And if I were a tax payer in King County I would be pissed.
Good thing we don't have to deal with you up there then. Hotel in question is being retrofitted for people requiring hospitalization, not just anybody with the virus. Somewhere around 5% of those affected are critical and require hospitalization. There are a limited number of such hospital beds for such treatment. Even then 2% of those affected still die. Once those limited number of beds are taken up, all 5% will die. This is to increase the amount of hospitalization that will be possible for such people.
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Trying a motel when the "ship" spread data is in?
Re "Army".. thats the staff, trucks and very advanced skill set to track and watch as if they ever move around the USA.
People wont see them used as expected.
Few nations will risk their expert generations of nuclear, biological, and chemical troops and lab cleaning staff on this.
Thats not their mission and not what they do.
Such troops are held back for war
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Re "re-fitting" a motel wont offer what is needed if the room to room masks and suits fail.
King County officials are way smarter than you. They are refitting rooms with negative-pressure ventilation. This will prevent room-to-room spread.
And I can't really extract any sense from the rest of your stream of consciousness.
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vs an actual building designed with actual "negative-pressure ventilation" as part of the building design for long term day to day use and all that shift work
Advanced nations do have "negative-pressure ventilation" buildings they could use...
"Refitting rooms with negative-pressure ventilation" in a motel... is what nations do when the buildings designed with and for long term actual "negative-pressure ventilation" use are full or
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The military can't be deployed like that. Even using the national guard requires more than the current situation.
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Preventative health? The public of course. The government sure isn't going to do it, Medicaid only covers one visit per year to any doctor (too bad if you're an older male or female, prostrate and gynecological exams count towards your once-a-year quota on preventative visits). Private health insurance shouldn't be to cover regular visits, it's called insurance after all, not pre-paid health.
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That was the time when a few doctors in Communist China got police visits to stop them talking about what they had seen... that as the preventative maintenance time now lost many weeks in the past...due to the actions of a Communist gov
The CDC trusting in the offical hospital use numbers approved for publication by the gov of Communist China.
What is been done now? Look at public health, private and charity care hospital spending...in the US
WHY DO YOU EVEN POST THE PAYWALLED LINK? (Score:5, Insightful)
Seriously, I have wondered this for a while. Why post the paywalled link, then say "Warning, paywalled... alternate link). Just post the damn alternate link and then give the paywalled link like this "Here is the link to WSJ if you subscribe to them". But I am guessing you wouldn't need to even do that, because if someone subscribed to the WSJ, or other paywalled sites, they probably will see the article there anyway.
Don't worry (Score:2)
Don't worry, this is all a crazy hoax by the democrats and the evil left-wing media, according to the president and Sean Hannity. People aren't really dropping dead in China or Washington state or whatever, so just go about your daily activities, Citizen. Everything will be fine. I mean everything is fine.
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People still spouting that lie? Old saying holds true, a lie circles the world before the truth has it's pants on.
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People still spouting that lie?
Not 'people', but the President and his minions. Besides, it's just a 'common cold' according to world-renowned epidemiologist and convicted drug addict Rush Limbaugh.
Old saying holds true, a lie circles the world before the truth has it's pants on.
Yes, it's the secret to Trump's success. Tell enough lies and it's impossible to keep up.
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Not 'people', but the President and his minions. Besides, it's just a 'common cold' according to world-renowned epidemiologist and convicted drug addict Rush Limbaugh.
Really? Strange how it wasn't the president and his minions saying that, and like usual. When things are taken out of context, the fool takes it at value instead of doing their own research.
Yes, it's the secret to Trump's success. Tell enough lies and it's impossible to keep up.
So when Trump doesn't say a lie, and the media are the ones lying what does that say about the person gullible enough to believe it?
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Really? Strange how it wasn't the president and his minions saying that, and like usual.
As someone else said, it'd be a lot easier to take people like you seriously if you weren't so completely untethered to reality.
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So when Trump doesn't say a lie, and the media are the ones lying what does that say about the person gullible enough to believe it?
When hasn't he told a lie?
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As someone else said, it'd be a lot easier to take people like you seriously if you weren't so completely untethered to reality.
You could have simply said; "The view point I believe is the only truth," with that sentence. After all, if even facebook and the AP call bullshit on that claim, it might not be everyone else that's untethered.
When hasn't he told a lie?
Have you stopped beating your wife?
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You could have simply said; "The view point I believe is the only truth," with that sentence.
And you could have simply said; "I spew unfounded bullshit like a snowblower."
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And you could have simply said; "I spew unfounded bullshit like a snowblower."
I wouldn't want to take your job, you're doing a great!
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So when Trump doesn't say a lie,
Hypothetically obviously.
and the media are the ones lying what does that say about the person gullible enough to believe it?
Fox viewers believe anything they see on Fox?
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Hypothetically obviously.
Hypothetically, you're an ax murderer. It is hypothetical after all.
Fox viewers believe anything they see on Fox?
When a loaded question is still a loaded question, because there isn't anything substantive in the original?
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Did you have an English version? Google translate was no use.
Sure, try re-reading. Or perhaps go take an ESL class?
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Sage words. People will hopefully remember them when they read your next bunch of lies about China that you found on twitter but never link to.
Hopefully most people remember that AC are still always anonymous cowards, otherwise they'd have at least the testicular fortitude of Justin Trudeau to post with their pseudonymous account.
The funny thing about my 'bunch of lies' is just how often they turn out to be a 'bunch of truths.' Maybe you're just not smart enough to read between the lines, and do a bit of digging. Let me help: It's a learned skill, one they used to teach in high school. Something they don't even teach in university now.
we're all going to get this (Score:1)
That's going to be fun! (Score:2)
There's only 1200 beds for the whole of New York City!?
So, 1200 beds for a city of approximately 23 million in its combined statistical area [wikipedia.org], it means 1 bed per ~19167 people. Or if all beds where free at the beginning of an epidemic (which probably aren't), only ~0.005% of the population can get a bed.
We're not talking about mortality rate here, we're only saying that the i
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However, most people don't develop serious symptoms, and thus don't need to be at the hospital to survive. The vast majority of the infected can be just quarantined somewhere.
You only need the beds for those who get severe or critical pneumonia, which is about 19% of the infected [umn.edu].
Someone infect trump, pence, and the turtle. (Score:1)
Irony (Score:2)
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Emergency Declared in the state of Washington (Score:1)
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People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction, and all you can talk about is Trump? How is a virus borne out of communist China suddenly "trump virus?"
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Maybe COVID-19 is Gaia's new antibodies. The planet is just defending itself against the cancer.
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Oh fucking hell. Stop trying to make this political. It may even be true, but saying it is harmful, because Trump supporters are already primed to think this is a hoax, and to deny it's severity for political purposes. If you make it about Trump they will deny it to their dying breath. Which may be what you think you want, but the thing is, sick people spread the virus, even to people on the opposite side of the political isle.
Let's just make this about Humanity (the hero of this tale) versus the Virus (the
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I'd make a snide comment, but I just can't. People are dying. Give the politics a break, just for a day, maybe?
This. Isn't. A. Partisan. Issue.
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I mean, in general I get it. But in this case, that's a shitty take.