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The Curiosity Rover Detects Oxygen Behaving Strangely on Mars (cnn.com) 56

NASA's Curiosity rover sniffed out an unexpected seasonal variation to the oxygen on Mars, according to new research. From a report: Since it landed in Gale Crater in 2012, the Curiosity rover has been studying the Martian surface beneath its wheels to learn more about the planet's history. But Curiosity also stuck its nose in the air for a big sniff to understand the Martian atmosphere. So far, this sniffing has resulted in some findings that scientists are still trying to understand. Earlier this year, the rover's tunable laser spectrometer, called SAM, which stands for Sample Analysis at Mars, detected the largest amount of methane ever measured during its mission. SAM has also found that over time, oxygen behaves in a way that can't be explained by any chemical process scientists currently understand.

SAM has had plenty of time -- about six years -- to sniff and analyze the atmospheric composition on Mars. The data revealed that at the surface, 95% of the atmosphere is carbon dioxide, followed by 2.6% molecular nitrogen, 1.9% argon, 0.16% oxygen and 0.06% carbon monoxide. Like Earth, Mars goes through its seasons; over the course of a year, the air pressure changes. This happens when the carbon dioxide gas freezes in winter at the poles, causing the air pressure to lower. It rises again in the spring and summer, redistributing across Mars as the carbon dioxide evaporates. In relation to the carbon monoxide, nitrogen and argon also follow similar dips and peaks. But oxygen didn't. Surprisingly, the oxygen actually rose by a peak increase of 30% in the spring and summer before dropping back to normal in the fall.

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The Curiosity Rover Detects Oxygen Behaving Strangely on Mars

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  • If a martian was standing near the rover and farted, might that not explain the strange methane and oxygen readings?
    • Re:A Fart Perhaps? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by garyisabusyguy ( 732330 ) on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:31PM (#59411172)

      Due to Mar's harsh conditions, including lack of an atmosphere, lack of an active magnetosphere and the resulting impact of cosmic rays.... it is likely that any life on mars has moved underground (I was going to say subterranean, Earth centrist, eh?).

      So, those farts that you speak of are likely leaking to the surface whenever the martians get tired of hotboxing it

    • "If a martian was standing near the rover and farted, might that not explain the strange methane and oxygen readings?"

      Of course not!
      It's obviously a gigantic underground mole that breathes just once a year.

  • by AndyKron ( 937105 ) on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:45PM (#59411034)
    Must be those microbes we brought to Mars on all those rovers that were sterilized beforehand.
  • Photosynthesis? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by TheDarkMaster ( 1292526 ) on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:53PM (#59411052)
    Oxygen increases when summer comes, that is, when the temperature and the amount of light increases. I don't know about others, but to me that's a reasonable indication that somewhere photosynthesis or something very similar is happening.
    • Re:Photosynthesis? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by MightyMartian ( 840721 ) on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:09PM (#59411094) Journal

      There's a lot of ferrous minerals on Mars (hence the red color of large portions of the surface). Perhaps there's some sort of breakdown of oxides that might lead to spikes on measurable O2. Not saying it isn't some sort of metabolic process, but there might be other non-organic explanations as well.

      • True, but it would be quite interesting if it's really a biological process.
      • Interesting comment. Iron (and other metal) oxides can lose oxygen thereby converting the oxides to their respective metallic states. It's a chemical process is called reduction and is (in effect) the inverse of oxidation. However, as far as I'm aware, the reduction process requires high temperatures, much higher than those found in the Martian atmosphere.

        • What about dust after storms being blown high up into the atmosphere and being exposed to greater amounts of UV light?
    • There are no plants or life on Mars. So no.

      • prove it

        • Re: (Score:1, Offtopic)

          No. The OP made the extraordinary claim that it was photosynthesis, so you have to prove there is life. My proof is that we haven't seen any plants anywhere on the planet. Where is your proof?

          • by mysidia ( 191772 )

            Your proof is not really proof, Because only a very small percentage of mars surface has even been looked at; there remains a possibility of some kind of plant or other life on the 99% of Mars' surface which has not been looked at except at a low resolution from a very long distance away.

          • There are plants on Earth too small to be seen with the naked eye.
      • We believe there are no plants or life on Mars. So no.

        FTFY...

        • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

          Um no. We know by now. Even NASA knows, but they want the funding to continue to see if there was life and to learn how the planet developed. There may have been life in the past, but the planet has been blasted by radiation for many millennia. Anyone who believes in life on Mars might as well believe in God or the Easter Bunny. There is zero evidence of life existing on Mars.

    • Re:Photosynthesis? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by avandesande ( 143899 ) on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:12PM (#59411106) Journal
      My guess is solar radiation is disassociating Oxygen from CO2
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        If you click through to the paper, they have some graphs of how the O2 concentration behaves, and how it correlates with other known environmental factors (not well). The O2 mix ratio seems to have a rather complex yet repeating seasonal cycle that can't be explained with something as simple as you suggest. Of course everything seasonal is ultimately driven by the sun, but the direct effects of solar radiation make a smooth curve while the O2 does something very interesting. Just go look. If you're into sci

      • Do you really really really think they haven't thought of that?
    • to me that's a reasonable indication that somewhere photosynthesis or something very similar is happening.

      The list of other, more simple processes that could be occurring is very long. Radiation bombarding CO2 causing it to separate, the sensor misbehaving in some unanticipated way, some mineral based sequestering process, and a whole long list of things that geologists and chemists come up with better than you or I could imagine.

      Saying it's life seems to be the longest stretch possible.

  • by jfdavis668 ( 1414919 ) on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @02:54PM (#59411054)
    It goes back down in the fall when everyone is tailgating around bonfires and burning fallen leaves. The martians are quite like use. You should see football played in 1/3G.
  • by sedwards8675309 ( 3492587 ) on Wednesday November 13, 2019 @03:07PM (#59411086)
    We just didn't like the results because it wasn't quite what we expected.
  • Damn headline. I was hoping that the martian oxygen was picking on the Curiosity rover for coming from an oxygen rich planet. Maybe spray painting its camera or throwing rocks at it. Now that would have been "behaving strangely".
  • Perhaps Spring and Summer is the growth season, for some as yet unlocated flora?

    • Perhaps Spring and Summer is the growth season, for some as yet unlocated flora?

      Unlikely, but it's a possible explanation. IMHO it's some non-organic process happening here, but exactly what is a mystery.

      • Perhaps Spring and Summer is the growth season, for some as yet unlocated flora?

        Unlikely, but it's a possible explanation. IMHO it's some non-organic process happening here, but exactly what is a mystery.

        Hm... I remember reading somewhere that what oxygen isn't locked up in CO2 is locked up as iron oxide in the soil. Is there perhaps some chemical process where some of the oxygen in the soil would be released during the warmer season?

        • So, the reverse of oxidation is reduction.
          Reduction is the obvious answer to this question, which is why it was likely one of the first they tried to crunch numbers for.
          They state that no chemical reaction they could think of would create a spike this large.
          Doesn't mean it isn't chemical. Just means they haven't figured out what is catalyzing it yet, or how there's enough of it happened to create a measurable spike this large. Also doesn't mean they won't figure out a chemical process that's doing it. Ma
  • Such releases might be explained by sublimating ice deposits that hold trapped gas. Perhaps Mars was once more oxygen rich, but the excess was trapped by clathrates and oxidation.
    • by djinn6 ( 1868030 )

      Presumably the ice that melts in the spring will reform in the fall. Otherwise Mars will run out of ice pretty quickly. So the ice must also somehow recollect the atmospheric oxygen when they freeze, which would be hard to do if they're spread out very evenly throughout the atmosphere.

  • I know that Mars has perchlorates in the soil, which cause liquid brine to exist periodically. Googling around, I see that some perchlorates are used in oxygen generators. I'm not sure how the oxygen would cycle, or perhaps it's a huge store of minerals that the perchlorates react with to form O2 which gets absorbed someplaces else each season.

    I'm nowhere near enough of a chemist to write the equation for a plausible reaction that could drive this. It's just an idea...

  • The Curiosity Rover Detects Oxygen Behaving Strangely on Mars

    And we're all watching oxygen behaving strangely in Washington! (bah dump bump)

  • Carbon dioxide is heaver than Oxygen. Oxygen is floating on the carbon dioxide above the reach of the sniffer. When Carbon dioxide freezes and diminishes, the height of carbon dioxide on the ground is lowered thus bringing more oxygen to the level of the sniffer.

    Problem solved.
    • New problem: diffusion. Gases mix and don't unmix. Which is why we don't have all our CO2 stuck near the ground, displacing the oxygen we breathe.
      • Which is why you do have some detection of oxygen but more of it when CO2 is less due to it being in a frozen state.
      • New problem: diffusion. Gases mix and don't unmix. Which is why we don't have all our CO2 stuck near the ground, displacing the oxygen we breathe.

        Also if we had more Carbon Dioxide here on earth than Oxygen like there is on Mars, it would displace the oxygen we breath. But at the moment there is only 400 parts per million CO2 in the air we breath so displacing the oxygen and nitrogen would be kind of difficult.

        Problem solved.

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