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Transgenic Mosquitoes Transferred Their Genes Into a Natural Population (nature.com) 79

Long-time Slashdot reader cccc828 shares a Nature article "about genetically modified mosquitoes that were supposed to reduce the mosquito population. However, instead of dying, some survived, spreading the new genes."

In an attempt to control the mosquito-borne diseases yellow fever, dengue, chikungunya, and Zika fevers, a strain of transgenically modified Aedes aegypti mosquitoes containing a dominant lethal gene has been developed by a commercial company, Oxitec Ltd... Approximately 450 thousand males of this strain were released each week for 27 months in Jacobina, Bahia, Brazil...

Genetic sampling from the target population six, 12, and 27-30 months after releases commenced provides clear evidence that portions of the transgenic strain genome have been incorporated into the target population. Evidently, rare viable hybrid offspring between the release strain and the Jacobina population are sufficiently robust to be able to reproduce in nature... It is unclear how this may affect disease transmission or affect other efforts to control these dangerous vectors.

These results highlight the importance of having in place a genetic monitoring program during such releases to detect un-anticipated outcomes.

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Transgenic Mosquitoes Transferred Their Genes Into a Natural Population

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  • No Shit Sherlock (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward

    You put the challenge to Nature, FFS.

  • Pesky outcomes! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by geekymachoman ( 1261484 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @11:43AM (#59194102)
    > These results highlight the importance of having in place a genetic monitoring program during such releases to detect un-anticipated outcomes.

    You can try, you can minimize the un-anticipated outcomes, etc. but you will never get rid of them completely. We're not smart enough to do that. Look at software.
    40 Years people are trying to figure out all the possible outcomes, and account for all of them ... and still fail.

    Anyway... let's hope one day they don't genetically modify a mosquito that will end up evolving, spreading the genes, and then instead of giving people malaria, give them something much worse because whoever is doing this, does not fully understand what he's doing yet. "unintended consequence".
    • You can try, you can minimize the un-anticipated outcomes, etc. but you will never get rid of them completely. We're not smart enough to do that. Look at software.

      Yes? Is there anyone who doesn't know this? I don't know why so many people think everyone who works in genetic biotech is some maniacal megalomaniac with a god complex who has never heard the term 'unintended consequences,' although I suspect one too many monster movies has something to do with it.

      Nothing works 100%, everything has the possibility of having negative drawbacks, you still can't falsify the unknown. Everyone is well aware of that. It doesn't mean you never do anything.

      If someone has a r

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Okay, but if there's a reasonable likelihood of an outcome, and it's a necessary side-effect of the desired primary effect, it shouldn't be treated as an exception: it should be treated as normal behavior, and accounted for as such in the design.

        This isn't a case of unforseeable consequences.

      • I don't think that it is about a part of the strategy, it is the whole of it.

        Those who dabble in genetic biotech need to be much more careful and go back to controlled environments. Once you release something in nature you can never put it back in the box.
      • by DarkOx ( 621550 )

        I don't know why so many people think everyone who works in genetic biotech is some maniacal megalomaniac with a god complex

        Maybe cause so many of them appear to be exactly that? Its a well known fact certain fields and certain projects attract certain personalities.

      • Yes? Is there anyone who doesn't know this?

        The scientists who work for Oxitec Ltd., at a minimum.

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    • >let's hope one day they don't genetically modify a mosquito that will end up evolving, spreading the genes, and then instead of giving people malaria, give them something much worse because

      Malaria has killed 50% of the global human population, throughout history. It was pretty bad, and still is. And nothing prevents a worse thing for showing up for no reason. Having automated needle-sharing on wings is a massive health risk.

      The risk of killing large portions of a population is that the population immune

  • "What could POSSIBLY go wrong?"
    There's no fucking way anyone can predict what the long-term consequences of this are. For all they know they've now inadvertedly created a genetically superior super-mosquito that'll be tougher or impossible to get rid of, a superior spreader of disease, literally the opposite of what was intended.
    Instead of a butterfly flapping it's wings that wipes out human civilization and perhaps humanity itself, it might well be the flapping of a mosquitos' wings that destroys everyt
    • Re:You IDIOTS. (Score:4, Insightful)

      by ChromeAeonuim ( 1026946 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @12:18PM (#59194202)
      Dramatic much? I'm not an entomologist, but from what I know of this, the odds of 'super mosquitoes' seem pretty darned unlikely. Things only work that way in Hollywood movies. I think we should base our policies of biotechnology on what is actually plausible, not what makes a good B flick.

      Genetic engineering has been used to cook up so many stupid movies where the dumb arrogant egghead scientist dismisses the 'obvious concerns' of the every-man protagonist for so long that people actually think that is how things work. There is a wide margin between "This does not work 100%" and "This is of no benefit and radically dangerous." Want to know what could go wrong? How about mosquito born diseases? I don't think we should do nothing because you can never truly know the outcomes of a thing until you already do it. That's a wholly unreasonable standard.

      There's a difference between data and disaster.
      • by dryeo ( 100693 )

        Depends on definition of "super". Excessive use of DDT resulted in strains of super mosquitoes that are resistant to DDT. Lots of stories about super bugs that are resistant to multiple antibiotics. Then there's hybrids, is the mule a super horse?

        • by HiThere ( 15173 )

          A single mule is better than a single horse for some purposes. Breeding isn't one of them.

        • I mean 'super mosquitos' in the same sense you're referring to the DDT-hardened mosquitos; what they did literally had the opposite effect of what was intended. Now we have to wait to see what the ultimate consequences of that will be. They clearly didn't think this through enough so almost anything could happen.
      • Condescending, superior, better-than-you attitude much? I'm offended by your tone, and your assertion that we need to 'base our policies on what is actually plausible' makes a massive assumption that we're even capable of anticipating all the consequences of actions like this one, therefore what is 'plausible' can't be accurately determined. The fact of the matter is: regardless of intentions, they willy-nilly genetically modified a species, released it into the wild, apparently without anywhere near enough
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  • Guess we better fund another study...

  • Evidently, rare viable hybrid offspring between the release strain and the Jacobina population are sufficiently robust to be able to reproduce in nature

    Life, uh, found a way.

  • Seems to sum it up.
  • by Kernel Kurtz ( 182424 ) on Saturday September 14, 2019 @12:05PM (#59194156)

    than throwing up your hands and saying "we can't do anything".

    We never would have come out from our caves if that were the case.

    People talk about the "precautionary principle", but that is just an excuse for doing nothing, because pretty much anything can have unintended consequences.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      The precautionary principle is a load of anti-science crap. Science must have the ability to be falsified, otherwise it isn't science. The precautionary principle says don't do anything unless you prove it won't cause harm, through unknown unknowns. Sorry, that cannot be done, and if it were consistently applied, no one would do anything ever.

      So of course, the precautionary principle is mostly a political tool to motivate the scientifically illiterate. Of course, those who oppose genetic engineering an
      • It's a principle, not a law. It should just mean "do reasonable theory work before you run experiments to sanity check what you're doing." And the mosquito trial folks did their groundwork.
  • "Life finds a way" (Ian Malcolm)
  • . . explosion. At that time, the Gates Foundation-financed Oxitec released those ostensibly dengue-fighting genetically engineered mosquitoes, at each and every instance there was an explosion of the Zika virus. Gates is a half-assed dood who thinks he knows everything --- and they are always the most dangerous! All the Zika mothers should sue the hell out of the Gates Foundation!!!!
    • you are full of nonsense

      The percent of infected mosquitos has risen 30 times what it was over a period of half a century. Recent experiments aren't to blame.

      Any recent infections would have happened anyway and maybe would have been worse.

      No basis for law suit, since they didn't cause infections

    • There is much to blame the Gates foundation for (their contribution to the African population explosion for instance) but Oxitec I think was doing good work. Get rid of mosquitoes and ticks... we and the other animals will be better off.
      • Except for all the Zika virus victims, which you apparently don't have the mental capacity to include! -- sgt_doom
  • by HiThere ( 15173 ) <charleshixsn.earthlink@net> on Saturday September 14, 2019 @01:34PM (#59194392)

    "Sufficiently robust to reproduce" doesn't exactly fill me with fear. Are they in any way superior to the target version of the mosquito? From the summary my guess is that they aren't. (Do note this is a guess.)

    My *guess* is that they are barely robust enough to survive, and will quickly disappear over the generations. But I'll wait for an article to appear in the popular science news to form a real opinion. (Articles in Nature generally leave me either confused or dazed in incomprehension.) N.B.: even articles on programming that are academic and distant from application get the same response. I've never bothered to figure out what a Floyd grammar is.

  • Have we learned nothing from Jurassic Park?!?
  • To wipe out the mosquito is very hard to impossible.

    Instead we should look for genetic modifications that result in mosquitoes that cannot carry nasty diseases, ideally engineered to outcompete disease-carrying mosquitoes.

    Getting rid of malaria would be a very good thing to do!

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  • Uh... finds a way.

  • "The release strain was developed using a strain originally from Cuba, then outcrossed to a Mexican population." and then "However, it is known that, under laboratory conditions, 3–4% of the offspring from matings of OX513A with wild type do survive to adulthood although they are weak and it is not known if they are fertile" So, 30 months later they find it's spread into other species. That would mean a giant YES to they "will they survive / are they fertile" question. With the crossbreeding they adm
  • Anything less than 100% effective has the potential for events like this, and it was entirely foreseeable as a possibility. I can understand if they had no idea how likely it was, or how to defend against it without a specific threat in hand, but "this may not work perfectly, and some of what we release may in fact breed" is just something that needs to be considered. Always assume Murphy's Law will hold.

  • ... idea as they have done in the past.

    Transgenic mosquitoes in bathrooms?

    It's complicated. [theguardian.com]

    “After so many years of managing the anxiety of HB2 and fighting so hard, I am relieved that we finally have a court order to protect transgender [mosquitoes] from being punished under these laws,” said Joaquin Carcaño, the lead plaintiff.

    Emphasis mine.

  • Admittedly, it was a decent idea to genetically engineer a species of mosquito that could help thin out the rest of the mosquito population in order to reduce the spread of diseases and such. And I have to assume that they saw this coming, but calculated the chances of this happening as being low enough that it probably wouldn't happen.

    The problem was that they only stopped at "probably won't happen" instead of making sure to reduce the chances to "almost certainly won't happen." These scientists were so pr

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