Horns Are Growing on Young People's Skulls. Phone Use is To Blame, Research Suggests (washingtonpost.com) 139
What we have not yet grasped is the way the tiny machines in front of us are remolding our skeletons, possibly altering not just the behaviors we exhibit but the bodies we inhabit. From a report: New research in biomechanics suggests that young people are developing hornlike spikes at the back of their skulls -- bone spurs caused by the forward tilt of the head, which shifts weight from the spine to the muscles at the back of the head, causing bone growth in the connecting tendons and ligaments. The weight transfer that causes the buildup can be compared to the way the skin thickens into a callus as a response to pressure or abrasion.
The result is a hook or hornlike feature jutting out from the skull, just above the neck. In academic papers, a pair of researchers at the University of the Sunshine Coast in Queensland, Australia, argues that the prevalence of the bone growth in younger adults points to shifting body posture brought about by the use of modern technology. They say smartphones and other handheld devices are contorting the human form, requiring users to bend their heads forward to make sense of what's happening on the miniature screens. Counter point: The absurd story about smartphones causing kids to sprout horns.
The result is a hook or hornlike feature jutting out from the skull, just above the neck. In academic papers, a pair of researchers at the University of the Sunshine Coast in Queensland, Australia, argues that the prevalence of the bone growth in younger adults points to shifting body posture brought about by the use of modern technology. They say smartphones and other handheld devices are contorting the human form, requiring users to bend their heads forward to make sense of what's happening on the miniature screens. Counter point: The absurd story about smartphones causing kids to sprout horns.
Can't wait to hear Pat Robertson freak out. (Score:4, Funny)
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Chimpanzee man is going to totally lose his shit when he finds out about this.
Chimpanzee man? I thought Pat Robertson was white.
Ever seen the albino chimpanzee Pinkie [quora.com]?
Links Because the Summary Lacks (Score:5, Informative)
Washington Post article: https://www.washingtonpost.com... [washingtonpost.com]
Research Paper: https://www.nature.com/article... [nature.com]
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MOD UP (Score:1, Redundant)
More informative than my post, this one should be higher.
Not news (Score:5, Funny)
Young people have always been horny.
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That was my first thought, too :-P
Tablet zombies (Score:5, Funny)
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Wizards Unite dropped yesterday. Got me to stop playing Pokemon Go.
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WU isn't going to do shit against PoGO. PoGO can coast on nothing for years and still rake in billions.
WU is janky trash in a universe all but the most hardcore of fans have abandoned.
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You are starting to see them, just now?
Wow, you must live in a third-world country.
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Super Evolution Turbo: Alpha Edition EX (Score:2)
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Congratulations, you just insulted yourself.
Re: Super Evolution Turbo: Alpha Edition EX (Score:1)
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I duuno, have you seen his mom?
Re: Super Evolution Turbo: Alpha Edition EX (Score:1)
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he had to woo her first
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I can't tell if this is serious or not, and if it's not, I can't tell if it's a troll or sarcasm post.
Well done. Regardless of intent, this is a perfect troll post.
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Re:Super Evolution Turbo: Alpha Edition EX (Score:4, Insightful)
Evolution happens when an adaptation gives a group from a species a specific advantage, and that group splits from the parent species
Evolution is the change over time in the statistical distribution of alleles within a species, and happens continuously. You're talking about speciation, I'd guess, but that's also a very gradual process.
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Evolution is after an unfathomable period of time fish suddenly becoming reptiles, then after an unfathomable period of time becoming birds, then becoming mammals ... for no real reason. Because there still are fish and reptiles and birds and mammals.
Why would you call "protecting your unborn children" no real reason?
Amphibians who can hide their eggs in a pond you have to hop across some land to get to have a huge advantage - until there are predators who can do the same. Lizards who can hide their eggs on land, away from any water, have a huge advantage - until there are predators who can find them. Birds who can hide their eggs in high places have a huge advantage - until there are predators who can find them. Mammals who can grow their young insi
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So it only takes a generation to evolve...? Is this a "micro"-evolution? What happened to the billions of years it took to form life?
Actually it's called De-Evolution.
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Well they do worship the first resurrected zombie [me.me]. :-)
Christians are too stupid to understand the Old Testament Commandment "Do not kill" has NO fine print or exceptions yet they believe apparently God commanded his children to murder one another.
*Facepalm*
Anyone minister who can't take the time to explain the difference between the literal and allegory doesn't deserve to teach. Apparently "Let the dead bury the dead" is over their head.
Re: Super Evolution Turbo: Alpha Edition EX (Score:1)
1) "thou shalt not kill" is not in the old testament. It's "thou shalt not murder", which is a legal term.
2) Christians are, definitionally, not followers of the Old Testament.
They're whackadoodles for their fairy magic beliefs, but you're just dumb and arrogant.
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That's because any criticism on Darwin's theory of evolution is seen as the opinion of a bible thumping nut job. 'Can evolution take place between birth and death of an individual?', it was not wise of me to ask this in university. It was answered with 'no, God didn't do it' and I was verbally attacked by a certain group of students for the rest of the year.
For me it is just a genuine question. What happens after a sudden change in diet? What happens when you do a different job as your parents? What happens to a person who would live forever in the ISS space station? You can not pose the question without being labeled as either a troll or religious nutcase. Too many scientific fields are being used as a tool for certain politics. Darwin's theory as well has been used and abused over the 20th century.
You should know what happens "evolutionarily" to an individual between birth and death. You see it all the time with body builders, anorexics, amputees and others with bodily changes. It isn't genetic so it doesn't pass on and isn't evolution.
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Nature vs Nurture.
They are a lot of physical and mental aspects of us, which are directed from the environment we live in and interact with. Back in elementary school, there was a set of identical twins, one needed glasses the other didn't. One was a little bigger and a noticeable difference in personalities. Then because of these differences how they interacted with the environment changed. Being the 1990's the twin with glasses, was automatically treated like the smarter one, Thus got better grades. Th
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So it only takes a generation to evolve...? Is this a "micro"-evolution? What happened to the billions of years it took to form life?
This is no more evolution than is body building. It is a reaction to the way you use your body. Not genetic change so not evolution.
Apparently, this is fake news to generate clicks (Score:5, Insightful)
See here:
https://reason.com/2019/06/20/... [reason.com]
Original source:
https://www.techdirt.com/artic... [techdirt.com]
Re:Apparently, this is fake news to generate click (Score:5, Informative)
It's not fake. The horn is real. If it was due to television use or bad posture it would have been seen in the 1980s and 1990s.
Nobody's disputing the growth of bone spurs. But the original research doesn't say anything about cell phone use.
It's fake news, nothing more. I've seen it on three or more web sites today, so clearly it's generating the much-coveted clicks.
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It's fake news, nothing more. I've seen it on three or more web sites today, so clearly it's generating the much-coveted clicks.
Should tell you the state of the news media these days. They're so hard up to draw people in that outright fabrication or shifting of facts to allude something else has become the norm. Now if they figured out why some people have an extra rib between the 1st rib and brachiocephalic vein I'd be interested.
Twitter conversation on why this is garbage (Score:4, Insightful)
The article is garbage click bait (which is probably why it's here on slashdot)
Twitter discussion [twitter.com]
And expanded upon here:
Forbes article [forbes.com]
Re:Twitter conversation on why this is garbage (Score:5, Insightful)
Any conversation on Twitter is already garbage.
Fake News, cell phones not correlated (Score:5, Insightful)
You knew that story had to be Fake News [reason.com]
Also they are bone spurs, not "horns".
How many kids do you know that actually hold a phone near the head anyway? They are all just texting in hand.
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Re:Fake News, cell phones not correlated (Score:4, Interesting)
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/06/debunked-the-absurd-story-about-smartphones-causing-kids-to-sprout-horns/
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> How many kids do you know that actually hold a phone near the head anyway? They are all just texting in hand.
Surely that's the entire basis for the hypothesis - looking down to the phone in your hand results in the "repetitive and sustained mechanical load [that] is required for robust adaptation to take place in tendon properties".
And yes it's just an hypothesis, an possible explanation for what they observed that makes some sense given previous research. Doesn't mean it is true of course, that's the
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Also they are bone spurs, not "horns".
Agreed, let's not rush to judgement here. Let's wait and see if these things change direction and pop out on the top of the head.
If these kids start growing tails, and their feet morph into cloven hooves . . . then we should start worrying.
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If these kids start growing tails, and their feet morph into cloven hooves . . . then we should start worrying.
Pffft. If they start developing invisible telekinetic hands, insensate rages and begin tearing people rim from rim, THEN you start worrying.
cf: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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How many kids do you know that actually hold a phone near the head anyway? They are all just texting in hand.
To be fair the misguided articles cite a study which specifically say the kind of posture from hand holding is what could be responsible for these bone spurs.
Fake (Score:5, Insightful)
Researchers did not link any changes to mobile phones. That part is pure speculation based on nothing to troll you into paying attention:
https://reason.com/2019/06/20/... [reason.com]
News stories are not factual. As a rule, you shouldn't believe them any more than any other rumors you might hear.
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Yes. Fox News, and CNN, and the Washington Post (they published this nonsense), and most other news sources. You can't believe what they say. Their stories are written to troll you.
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It's a SelfieStick
Give me a break (Score:1)
We've had books for how many hundreds of years? Who the hell reads with the book held in front of their face. We've also been crafting for tens of thousands of years. Few tasks require you to look straight ahead while crafting. What a pile of shit.
Today on Slashdot (Score:3)
aaand five minutes later on Ars Technica: https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/06/debunked-the-absurd-story-about-smartphones-causing-kids-to-sprout-horns/ [arstechnica.com]
These were almost right next to each other in my RSS feed reader.
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One more reason I'm going to Ars more and more and /. less and less.
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From Ars Technica
Well that about wraps it up for that study,
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It takes thousands of years to see the slightest changes occur.
You might consider looking up the Russian Silver Fox breeding experiment and its results after a mere 50 years. Also the Pod Mrcaru lizards (40 years).
Situation Normal (Score:1)
Not 'horns" (Score:2)
They're not horns, they'te bome spurs
Bone spurs predate cellphones , I hear they were around about the time of the Vietnam war (for those that were to dumb to get into the Air Narional Guard)
Maybe they're antennas (Score:3)
Within three generations, their descendants will be able to receive WiFi
Klingons (Score:3)
So is the use of portable electronic devices the thing that Worf didn't want to talk about, how the Klingons in TOS evolved into the bumpy-bony-headed form of the movies and later series?
https://comicbook.com/tv-shows... [comicbook.com]
For once the advice is really appropriate: (Score:2)
Think of it as evolution in action!
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Not a big surprise (Score:2)
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LOLZ no.
There can be indentations in skin, and also calluses can form.
but no, don't panic, it's not your skull.
this article also is BS, centuries of reading books and newspapers and all manner of trade work would have done it too
And chairs... (Score:2)
So, holding phones distorts our bodies causing growth. Yeah, I believe that obvious bullshit.
What about chairs? Do you think people were designed to sit in them? Why don't they put 'horns' on our butts? I sit more than I use a phone.
Or clothing - why don't we have bone growths on our wrists where our clothing is no longer pressing on us? I wear my clothing more than I use a phone.
This seems like an April Fools joke, not a real article. If there is anything to it, I bet it is a rare phenomena happenin
Nonsense (Score:2)
If the posture one assumes while using a cell phone caused bone spur growth, it would have happened already when people started reading books en masse.
Headline from London Times, circa 1658: "Reading Novels Doth Induce Horns Upon Skulls of Youth!"
Maybe we do need a micropayments system for news—as long as it includes a clawback feature. "This article was so much bullshit I want my micropayment back!"
Ya know, now that I think about it, let's do this. Advertising is definitely the wrong financial mode
Don't worry (Score:2)
Not a new thing (Score:2)
Is this really a new thing?
I have that bump on the back of my head (I'm 51) and have always understood it's Neanderthal morphology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Although I have to admit that this study makes me wonder about that. I've been a heavy reader forever - was reading constantly more or less since age 3, and that head-tipped-forward pose is pretty much the same whether you're looking at a tablet, phone, or reading War and Peace.
So should we tell kids not to read now?*
*too late, they already aren
This paper has more tripe than a pig (Score:2)
Something like 70% of scientific papers these days are just garbage, Dumb subject, fudged figures, misleading statistics and just plain lies. Probably rises to 95% in Medical studies.
Couple'a years ago I bet my pals I could get any old crap published. I took a commonsense idea for positioning of patients during a particularly uncommon surgical procedure, Clare wrote it up, full of the most amazing references and bingo, there it was in the Eur*** Journal of ***** Surgery. We pissed ourselves laughing.
Th
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Hmmm (Score:2)
Cellphones are making teens horny
I might be more inclined to believe it.
The counterpoint is wrong in at least one way. (Score:2)
I have lots of bone spurs, and I can attest that they are not all painless, and some of them interfere with normal body actions. So the counterpoint story is wrong in at least one way. This inspires me to suspect that it's wrong in other ways.
Additionally, the original paper (not the post story) seems to be proposing both a reasonable mechanism, and a reasonable result. Possibly it didn't prove it, I didn't read the original paper, just a summary, but the "bone spurs on the neck" is a quite reasonable re
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Well, that's the wrong way to *prove* something, but it's a quite acceptable way to formulate a hypothesis that you can prove on an independent test. You always need a hypothesis to test, because the universe has so much data you could never make sense of it in any other way, and it's better to gamble on a hypothesis that has *some* confirming data. So I wouldn't call it "junk science", but rather "The hypothesis creating stage".
One issue with Ars article (Score:2)
I agree with the vast majority of the Ars article, except for one point. Their issue with the statement of a 5x increase in men vs women not being supported by the graphical data is based on the assumption that the data in the figure is unnormalized to sex. That data looks normalized to me (sum of all male values is ~100% to my eye, and same for all female values). So the point of that plot is to demonstrate that the trend is the same for both genders, not that the prevalence is the same/different. What th