Researchers Measure Atom With Half-Life of 18 Sextillion Years (livescience.com) 123
A detector designed to hunt for dark matter has succeeded in detecting one of the rarest particle interactions in the universe. "According to a new study published today in the journal Nature, the team of more than 100 researchers measured, for the first time ever, the decay of a xenon-124 atom into a tellurium 124 atom through an extremely rare process called two-neutrino double electron capture," reports Live Science. "This type of radioactive decay occurs when an atom's nucleus absorbs two electrons from its outer electron shell simultaneously, thereby releasing a double dose of the ghostly particles called neutrinos." From the report: By measuring this unique decay in a lab for the first time, the researchers were able to prove precisely how rare the reaction is and how long it takes xenon-124 to decay. The half-life of xenon-124 -- that is, the average time required for a group of xenon-124 atoms to diminish by half -- is about 18 sextillion years (1.8 x 10^22 years), roughly 1 trillion times the current age of the universe. This marks the single longest half-life ever directly measured in a lab. Only one nuclear-decay process in the universe has a longer half-life: the decay of tellurium-128, which has a half-life more than 100 times longer than that of xenon-124. But this vanishingly rare event has only been calculated on paper.
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How did it come into being? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:How did it come into being? (Score:5, Funny)
God made them on Saturday.
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Well technically God would had made them on Sunday. As Saturday was considered the day of rest, after creation was created.
However this is nitpicking hairs, and isn't worth such a grand insult to MrL0GIC intellect.
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Well more to the point. The laws of physics seems to not really work until the big bang. They are some hypothesis about extra-denominational universes colliding together to create new ones. But that is just as untested as the idea of a external intelligence creating the universe.
My biggest issue with Religion approaching to science, is the fact that some religions is stop the study of science. God did it, isn't really an answer to the question on how it was was created. If you are religious then somehow
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Science and Metaphysics are compatible, but only if each doesn't encroach upon the other. Using Metaphysics to explain science is for fools (flat earth), and trying to use science to explain the metaphysical is futile.
The way I explain the difference is that Science is measurable/repeatable, while Metaphysics is experiential, and while there is some similarities, it is filled with variability that science doesn't like. Even the bible itself starts off by declaring that variability (Formless / void). IMHO th
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Well, god did make the universe. Then it blew up. You can bet his parents are pissed!
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Yeah, FSM was resting, making the universe is childs play for such magnificent noodleyness.
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Well the Alpha anyway. The heat death of the universal will sort out God too.
Re:How did it come into being? (Score:5, Informative)
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Big ass explosion.
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If you must get picky, the big one is about spacetime expansion and space itself just went along for the ride.
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LIGO, the black hole detector, recently saw a couple neutron stars about to merge, and astronomers around the globe got to watch the entire event, for once. Among their findings, most of the heavy elements in the universe are produced in these mergers, and not supernovas. https://www.ligo.caltech.edu/p... [caltech.edu]
https://www.livescience.com/60... [livescience.com]
What about hydrogen (Score:1)
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Proton decay isn't even a thing, as far as we know.
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As far as we know, the hypothetical concept of (isolated) proton decay is completely useless. Goes along with the increasing consensus that the null result for supersymmetry and friends is the truth. It's like, at some point you just need to cast your luminiferous ether toys away and become an adult physicist.
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Easy to prove true but it might get in the way of all the "science"
Well then publish your "results," since it's so easy. Please? Just copy/paste from your research. Thanks!
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The best analogy I've come up with for half-life decay is this: every atom gets a lottery ticket! The lottery size is indicative of how long the half-life is - a short half-life is like matching 3 numbers 1 through 10. A very long half life is like matching 7 numbers 1 through 100.
Anyway, every atom has their lottery ticket, the ticket never expires, and there are drawings every second. An atom hits its lottery number and Bam! It decayed.
An atom may last through eternity and never hit its lottery numbers
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How can they measure something that hasn't happened?
Ask Robert Mueller.
Re:Um how? (Score:5, Informative)
That's how long it would take half of your sample to decay. But if you have a sample of 10^22 Xenon-124 atoms, you'll see roughly (on average) 1 decay per year. Avagadro's number is 10^23, so you need less than a mole of Xenon-124 to see a few tens of decays per year. That's only around 100 grams of Xenon-124. Large scale Xenon experiments have tonnes of Xenon, so even at natural concentrations of Xenon-124 (1 part in a thousand or so) you end up with enough to make the measurement.
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A mole of Xenon weighs 128g. That'll cost a few pints of beer (international currency unit, convert to your local units).
Put a mole (or several moles) of xenon in a detector rigged up to ring bells and count the decays. Get about 10 decays a year (per mole Xe) and you're looking at a half-life estimate of around 10^22 years.
Half life 3 confirmed! (Score:1)
in just 18 sextillion years!
A thing about statistics .... (Score:5, Informative)
My numbers are approximate, but the point I am trying make is, "the event is not all that rare in the universe or on Earth. This event happening close to the detector is rare. That is all."
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Not really the detector was put next to 3200kg of xenon-124, so one would expect lots of events all the time. The difficult bit would have been detecting the neutrinos. For most of the decays they would just disappear into the universe without interacting with any matter and consequently being undetectable.
Remember the universe is awash with neutrinos, millions of them pass through you every second.
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For each electron captures into the nucleus, eventually one electron comes spitti
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"every 131 kg of Xenon has 6.021e23 atoms"
I know it was just a typo, or trying-to-dash-off-a-reply-simple oversight, but -
every 131 kg of Xenon actually has 6.021e26 atoms.
Avogadro's number is 6x10^23 atoms per mole, which is in grams, not kilos.
For a kilo-mole, the number is 6x10^26.
Otherwise than that, your point is well taken.
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Is everything radioactive? (Score:2)
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As protons decay, I can't imagine anything made of them would not, but for 'stable' elements, it would not be a very fast process.
Re:Is everything radioactive? (Score:4, Insightful)
Proton decay is theoretical and still being debated. The current, most accepted model identifies dozens of stable isotopes. Here [wikipedia.org] is a list.
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Only a thought experiment and possibly wrong by physics and/or cosmology we don't know yet, but because of quantum tunneling any other atomic nucleus should be unstable with respect to decay to Iron-56. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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I see. Also it occurs to me that hydrogen couldn't decay into something else since its atomic number is already 1.
Hydrogen-1 can't decay, as far as we know, since it's just a single proton. Hydrogen-2 is also stable, but Hydrogen-3 has a half-life of about 12 years.
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Do all elements have a half-life? When they say, "the single longest half-life ever directly measured in a lab," do they mean among a subset of elements that undergo nuclear decay? Or do all elements decay, but we don't care because most of them are so slow?
It's hypothetically possible that isotopes* that are stable actually have a half-life so long that scientists have never observed the decay of an atom of those isotopes. As far as I know, though, scientists have no reason to believe that this is the case, so they're considered stable and have no half-life. So yes, "the single longest half-life" excludes stable isotopes, which have no half-life.
* Elements do not have a half-life, because different isotopes of each element have a different half-life. Every
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Yes, everything ought to decay. We don't actually know, but it would be very odd if everything complex didn't decay eventually into their fundamental particles, if there is such a thing and they are left alone long enough. Whether that happens depends on the final state of the universe.
With things like proton (hydrogen nucleus) decay, we have had models such as the Salam-Weinberg theory that predict a lifetime of 10^34 years or thereabouts since the seventies. To observe these decays, we could have to lo
Volunters wanted (Score:2)
How do they know the half-life? (Score:1)
I am pretty ignorant of nuclear physics.
My understanding was that for all elements, decay had been observed (at least twice), and the period between two decay events is used to extrapolate the half-life. That's how I thought they determined half-lives.
But if Xenon decay hadn't ever been observed at all, then how did anyone knows its half-life? Even with only one new observation, you still wouldn't know; you need two so that you can measure the time between, to get the period.
I know I'm wrong about someth
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A lot of half-lives, including this Xenon decay, are calculated before they are observed. Nuclear physics is pretty well understood and the calculations are good. The calculations (and half-lives) depend on the mass difference between the parent and daughter nuclei along with a bunch of other factors such as if there is a straightforward decay mechanism and which conservation laws have to be observed. A starting rule is that the greater the mass difference the quicker the decay, but that comes with a who
Planned obsolescence! (Score:2)
Bah... (Score:1)
Who cares about these young flash-in-the-pan Xenon atoms?. All the protons in the universe are going to decay at 10^32 years, the universe will be quark soup and I'll probably be dead by then anyways.
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Hurd (Score:2)
Hey, we're at v0.9 now, we might get to v1.0 before the sun burns out
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"After one year of observations, the team detected close to 100 instances of xenon-124 atoms decaying this way, providing the first direct evidence of the process." This would be enough to provide reasonable estimates on the half-life.
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Re:more ridiculous fake science (Score:5, Insightful)