The World's Leading Cause of Death? A Bad Diet (nbc12.com) 195
An anonymous reader writes:
"A bad diet kills more people globally than tobacco," reports Bloomberg, citing a new study
funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and published Wednesday in Lancet. The study argues that poor diets led to 11 million deaths in 2017 -- and that more than half of them were caused by just three main dietary factors: low consumption of whole grains, low consumption of fruits, and high intake of sodium.
In fact, bad diets are responsible for more deaths worldwide than any other cause, the researchers concluded. "We found that improvement of diet could potentially prevent one in every five deaths globally."
In fact, bad diets are responsible for more deaths worldwide than any other cause, the researchers concluded. "We found that improvement of diet could potentially prevent one in every five deaths globally."
Wrong. Sugar is bad, mkay? (Score:5, Informative)
If you eat "whole grains", the body just sees a bunch of sugar.
If you eat "fruits", the body just sees a bunch of sugar—the worst kind, in fact: fructose.
Modern Humans didn't evolve on a diet of whole grains or fruits; they at meat and fat. Fat (oil) is the natural energy source for the body, with sugar being a sometime alternative, or required in only very small amounts in the form of glucose (which can be derived from meat protein via gluconeogenesis).
Meat. Fat. Water. Minerals (including salt).
That's the proper diet. The Powers that Be are trying to kill you, and they're trying to prop up existing government-subsidized industries.
Timing matters, too. (Score:5, Informative)
I'll add that you should be eating fewer meals a day, too.
Digestion is a dirty, industrial process. You want there to be ample time for your body build up and then tear down that process, and clear away the inflammatory byproducts; at night, when you're sleeping, you want your body putting energy into rebuilding, not digesting.
So, eat at most 2 meals a day, mostly in the middle of the day (e.g., a late lunch and/or and early dinner), and then fast until meal-time the next day; if you're powering yourself by fat rather than by sugar (and thereby keeping your insulin levels relatively low), you'll find that you're never really hungry, anyway.
That's what makes sense for a human: Eating basic food that is readily available in animals, and not being hungry the rest of the time.
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sugar it is the number killer! end of story.
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> That's the proper diet
Bullshit. There's all kinds of conflicting data. Nobody knows what's best. Yes, industry perverted the food pyramid, etc. We know some things are terrible, like megadosing fructose. But meat isn't all roses. Red meat is shown to increase cancer risk... do some research on Neu5Gc. Funny how if we evolved to eat red meat, but we don't have Neu5Gc like most other animals, so have inflammatory responses to it.
The Mediterranean diet has been shown to be very healthy,,, and it's largely
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The Mediterranean diet has been shown to be very healthy,,, and it's largely plant-based ... they eat beef, pork, lamb ... depending where you are lots of pork and lamb, or lots of beef and lamb ... but they also eat fish. The main difference is pasta, and olive oil and a healthy dose of fish, small breakfast (yes, opposing all other ideas about eating), long lunch and long siesta after lunch, and late evening dinner (yes, opposing all other ideas when and how to eat, and how much).
No, it is not
Of course,
Re:Wrong. Sugar is bad, mkay? (Score:4, Interesting)
Let's cut to the chase, it is not about what they are eating, it is about what they are not eating. The problem is cheap, crappy junk food, of low nutritional value but loaded up with addictive additives, with total disinterest in health outcomes, profits first. Remember kiddies according to US corporations and the US government, ketchup is a vegetable.
The worlds leading cause of early death, not food, Junk Food Corporations are the world leading cause of early death, through greed driven indifference.
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Your link is wrong ... but who cares. :P
Why don't you not just travel there a bit
Re: Wrong. Sugar is bad, mkay? (Score:1)
Go eat a stick. Mediterranean diet is not plant based. Most of the nutrients and calories come from dairy and fish. How do I know it? That's where I'm from.
mediterrean diet has been debuked (Score:1)
Basically Mediterranean diet was bunk all along.
Re:Wrong. Sugar is bad, mkay? (Score:5, Insightful)
If you eat "whole grains", the body just sees a bunch of sugar.
If you eat "fruits", the body just sees a bunch of sugar—the worst kind, in fact: fructose.
Not quite... You might find this interesting: Sugar: The Bitter Truth [youtube.com] (90min)
Robert H. Lustig, MD, UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology, explores the damage caused by sugary foods. He argues that fructose (too much) and fiber (not enough) appear to be cornerstones of the obesity epidemic through their effects on insulin.
The video is a university lecture describing fructose metabolism in great detail and how it's similar to that of alcohol metabolism, without the self-limiting effects of alcohol consumption, and it's affects on blood lipids and fatty liver, etc... Basically, sugar bound up with fiber is (way) less destructive than sugar alone -- i.e., Apple/Orange okay, Apple/Orange Juice not okay.
In addition, fructose can *only* be metabolized by the liver whereas glucose can be metabolized by every cell in the body. Sugar itself isn't necessarily bad and it's more about what how much, what type and how it's processed and how fast it's processed by the body.
Sugar spikes insulin, wreaks havoc on hunger (Score:1)
A consistently high level of insulin due to regular spikes from a sugar-based diet eventually make it difficult for your body to access fat reserves or to process dietary fat ("insulin resistance"). The sugar pathways also result in greater degrees of inflammation. The result is that under a long-term sugar-based diet, the body sends improper hunger signals when blood sugar drops, rather than just accessing fat to smooth things out, and so people are always peckish and always feeling like crap. Being hungry
Re:Wrong. Sugar is bad, mkay? (Score:4, Informative)
Wrong because the fibre is what makes the difference.
Of course they did, what a daft thing to say, you think man passed up the opportunity to eat fruit whenever it presented itself?
What's easier, pluck fruits and eat them or chase some animal around? Do man's teeth look like that of other carnivores?
Re: Wrong. Sugar is bad, mkay? (Score:1)
Don't forget vegetables. Many illnesses could be prevented by eating greens and root veggies, among others. But you're right, while whole grains (assuming organic non-GMO) are possibly better for you than refined ones, grains can be harmful, especially in quantity, as the starches quickly convert to sugars and the lectins in them can cause gut disorders and inflammation. That food pyramid was bought and paid for by giant agribusiness.
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Modern Humans didn't evolve on a diet of whole grains or fruits
Sure we did. In the short term you can see our life expectancy steadily increasing over many years. Compare the health of the modern human to the health of the old at their equivalent life expectancy.
Mind you it sounds like you're complaining about the latest health issues. The reality is that humans have been eating whole grains and fruits for thousands of year.
Re: Wrong. Sugar is bad, mkay? (Score:1)
This is definitely absolute rubbish. You will notice that we are all born and all going to die - it's just a matter of when and how. Even in Western Europe within living memory a lot of people starved to death during the second world war but that sort of consideration never makes it into these reviews...
Re: Wrong. Sugar is bad, mkay? (Score:1)
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If you eat "whole grains", the body just sees a bunch of sugar.
ofcourse, sugar is the bodies fuel & protiens are the building blocks. your brain and muscles run on sugar.
people should stop their fear of sugar, it just depends on what type of sugar you take in.
What a convincing rebuttal. (Score:1)
You must have been the captain of the debate team.
Re: "Dumb faggot" suggests "proper diet" lol... no (Score:1)
He played bassoon in High School.
That's not true. Keytones are a thing. (Score:2, Informative)
Also, MCTs are probably the most easily digested form of stored energy, which is why they are a popular addition to coffee.
Fiber is rough on the delicate digestive tract; in contrast, fat induces the production of bile, which coats and protects the digestive tract.
Fats do not result in an increase in blood sugar; they also produce a really small bump in insulin levels as a result. That is key to good health: Keeping insulin levels relatively low and consistent. Fat and sugar are not the same thing; fat is n
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correlation (Score:2, Interesting)
It's just a correlation, and on top of that, the numbers are distorted by amount of medical care.
I really doubt that high sodium is the biggest killer, for example.
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On one hand we have study in the Lancet, on the other we have:
I really doubt that high sodium is the biggest killer, for example.
I mean, both sides are equally valuable.
Re: correlation (Score:1)
IIRC, the Lancet published Ancel Keys' crappy studies, so there's that.
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I mean, both sides are equally valuable.
Agreed. The Lancet study is crap.
But at least red meat is declared completely safe, so there's that.
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FTA: "To reflect the uncertainty of optimal level of intake, we assumed a uniform uncertainty distribution of 20% above and below the mean. [13] For sodium, the evidence supporting the selection of the optimal level of intake was uncertain."
but later
FTA:"A small number of dietary risks had a large impact on health outcomes. In 2017, more than half of diet-related deaths and two-thirds of diet-related DALYs [disability-adjusted life-years] were attributable to high intake of sodium (3 million [95% UI 1
Re:correlation (Score:5, Interesting)
The longest lifespans are in Japan.
The highest sodium consumption is in Japan.
In many other countries, the source of high consumption of sodium is processed foods.
Consumption of large percentages of diet from processed foods is understood to reduce lifespan.
I don't know why it isn't more obvious to people that sodium is a confounding variable, not a causal one.
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I don't know why it isn't more obvious to people that sodium is a confounding variable, not a causal one.
It breaks my heart, because my dad, at 59, just had a stroke (first one). It wasn't a bad stroke, and he is fine. However, now he has to listen to the doctors. And, I just know they aren't giving him a good diet for his heart. They just don't know any better. Drink lots of nutrasweet? No problem. Better stop eating eggs...
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Artificial sugar is a whole topic in itself, but there's no evidence that it's bad for the heart or increases the risk of stroke. Obesity, high blood pressure, uncontrolled diabetes, and high cholesterol absolutely do though.
In all reality, there are just a handful of things that get you 95% of the way to optimal health and everything else is tweaking. Those are, in no particular order:
- Maintain a healthy weight
- Live an active lifestyle that includes regular cardio and strength training
- Eat 4+ servings o
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Processed food peddlers aren't interested in making unprocessed food. Thus fat, salt, etc. get scapegoated.
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The longest lifespans are in Japan.
The highest sodium consumption is in Japan.
In many other countries, the source of high consumption of sodium is processed foods.
Consumption of large percentages of diet from processed foods is understood to reduce lifespan.
I don't know why it isn't more obvious to people that sodium is a confounding variable, not a causal one.
I'm not a doctor or nutritionist, but I think the problem with sodium is it causes health issues for people who are already in poor health.
For instance, one of the things sodium does is raise your blood pressure, and too high a blood pressure damages your organs over time. And that sodium also needs to be filtered out by your kidneys, which places extra strain on them and can cause additional kidney damage.
So, if you have low blood pressure and healthy kidneys, like many Japanese do, then sodium probably is
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There are a small number of people with high blood pressure who are really sensitive to sodium. When those people eat a teaspoon of salt, their blood pressure goes up over 15 points. Those people need to avoid sodium, eating it might kill them.
The vast majority of people who have high blood pressure do not have that response. Their blood pressure only goes up about 2 points from eating a spoon of salt. A 2 point change in blood pressure does not correlate with worse outcomes. It seems to not be enough to ma
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The highest sodium consumption is in Japan. ...
How do you come to that idea? They don't but salt pots on tables in Japan
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Look, no. I didn't "come to that idea." It isn't an idea, and I didn't collect the data either.
Just, no. Stop being credulous of ideas. Look it the fuck up.
And furthermore, salt shakers are very very rarely a source of excess sodium. The sodium is in your cheesy poofs, it is in your potato chips, it is every food in a western supermarket designed to be cooked in a microwave, etc., etc. Salt shakers put the sodium right on the surface of the food, where it touches your tongue directly. It only takes a little
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I eat regularly Japanese food. Except perhaps YOUR miso soup, there is nothing particular salty in the typical dishes.
Obviously if you eat a salad made from kelp or other sea plants you get more salt.
As you pointed out processed food often contains to much salt, especially in countries with no regulations on that.
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I only buy traditional organic red miso from Japan, I do not make my own miso. Salt is not going to be the last ingredient. That's a fact.
If you were eating home made Japanese miso, it is highly likely that it would have even more salt.
If you're not eating any seaweed salad, I'm not going to be convinced you're eating a Japanese diet. Maybe you merely eat at a Japanese restaurant once in awhile.
Salt is main preservative in Japanese foods like miso paste. If it didn't have salt, it would not even exist as a
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How do you come to that idea? They don't but salt pots on tables in Japan ...
No, but they do "but" a bottle of soya sauce (very salty) on every table.
And it is heavily used.
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> The longest lifespans are in Japan.
Specifically, the traditional Okinawa diet. This diet is very low in any kind of animal product, or processed food. I doubt there is any dairy.
I am not sure about the sodium content of that diet.
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You're saying a different thing.
Okinawa is a small part of Japan. Japan as a whole has the longest lifespans in the world. Not just on Okinawa too, but also in the places where the rest of the people live.
The specific stuff you read about Okinawa and their traditional diet is not going to be the same thing people are talking about when they talk about Japan overall.
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I could do my own study and determine that water is the biggest cause of death the world has ever known:
1. 100% of all people exposed to water will die.
2. Water is the leading cause of drowning.
3. Water is one of the primary ingredients in herbicides and pesticides.
4. 100% of all serial killers, rapists and drug dealers have admitted to drinking water.
5. Water can be chemically synthesized by burning rocket fuel.
6. 100% of all dead people have had some interaction with water at some point in their lives.
I
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Most people eat to much sodium ... and it is a main cause for high blood pressure.
Re: correlation (Score:4, Insightful)
Agreed.
Also this doesnt prevent death, the cause just moves to another category when a person dies. Everyone dies after all.
And in my view the people that live longer don't necessarily live happier lives overall. I'd rather eat what works for me and live however long I live.
You're focusing on the wrong thing.
It's not about the choice between a long life and a short life.
It's about the choice between a healthy life and a sickly life.
It's not hard to tell which life will be happier.
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For me, living a life of fruits and veggies is suffering. Eating tasty, satisfying meats is fulfilling. I'm healthy not sickly based on my regular physicals and blood tests. So what works for me is what I'm doing.
Well then this doesn't concern you. The major symptom of a bad diet is obesity, if you're not suffering that effect then you're current diet is probably fine.
But the recommendations didn't say anything about becoming a vegetarian. The only thing you apparently have a problem with is the fruits, but are oranges, mangoes, and strawberries really the definition of suffering?
I don't think so... (Score:4, Insightful)
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"prevent one in every five deaths" meaning eat well and be immortal?
So many issues with this...
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"We found that improvement of diet could potentially prevent one in every five deaths globally."
All you need to do is change your diet and your death will be prevented! If you're one of the lucky five, I guess.
(Seriously, it's hard to trust the statistics ability of a researcher who is that fuzzy with their language.)
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The correct answer is time. Doesn't matter what you eat, you're not going to escape it...
Or breathing. Every single person who has ever died was an habitual breather.
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Or like some of my more cynical cohorts like to say and being the title of an eastern European drama: "Life as a Fatal Sexually Transmitted Disease".
Re:I don't think so... (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm saying that everyone is going to die some day. It doesn't matter what you eat, how you exercise, etc. You could be the healthiest eater in the world and you're still going to die at some point. You might last a few more years than others but you're not going to stop it by changing your diet.
Articles like this try and give you the idea that if you do this or that, you're going to prevent your death. This one actually says a better diet will prevent 1 in 5 deaths globally. I'm pretty sure all 5 out of 5 are going to die at some point. It's just a matter of time.
Maybe if the article gave a chart of life expectencies of people based on diets or lifestyles it might be more accurate. But claiming that your death will be prevented is just wrong.
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To most of us time frames still matter.
For example based on my current enjoyment of life and the prospect of staying mentally healthy, I'd much rather live to see my 80th birthday and die by the cause of "time", than to kick it at 50 because of some cardiopulmonary disease or diabetes.
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I agree. Nobody should seriously talk about saving lives or preventing death. The most that you can ever hope to accomplish is to delay death a little longer.
The only truly meaningful things to consider are the expected change in life expectancy, and in quality of life.
Nobody ever gets out of here alive (Score:2)
As a religious friend often reminds me.
Seems questionable .... (Score:3, Interesting)
I mean -- even if I happily accept that a poor diet is the leading cause of premature death? They claim that low consumption of fruits is one of the major problems. One of the first things I hear from dieticians trying to solve obesity problems is to curb one's intake of fruit juices, because they contain so much natural sugar and calories.
I'm sure the fruits themselves are better for you than drinking fruit juice ... but even so? What part of a balanced diet is so contingent on eating fruit? It seems to me you could get most of the same vitamin and mineral benefits from a good selection of vegetables - not to mention all the "vitamin fortified" products out there like our cereals.
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One of the first things I hear from dieticians trying to solve obesity problems is to curb one's intake of fruit juices
There's a dramatic difference between fruit and fruit juice.
I'm sure the fruits themselves are better for you than drinking fruit juice
They aren't even comparable.
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I mean -- even if I happily accept that a poor diet is the leading cause of premature death? They claim that low consumption of fruits is one of the major problems. One of the first things I hear from dieticians trying to solve obesity problems is to curb one's intake of fruit juices, because they contain so much natural sugar and calories.
Fruit juice is basically just flavoured sugar water, it's better than pop, but not much.
The fruits themselves also have a lot of fibre and other pulpy bits that don't really juice that well. This is what makes a fruit so much more satiating than a fruit juice.
I'm sure the fruits themselves are better for you than drinking fruit juice ... but even so? What part of a balanced diet is so contingent on eating fruit? It seems to me you could get most of the same vitamin and mineral benefits from a good selection
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They claim that low consumption of fruits is one of the major problems. One of the first things I hear from dieticians trying to solve obesity problems is to curb one's intake of fruit juices, because they contain so much natural sugar and calories.
Do you ever juice? Fruits contain sugar and many contain lots of fiber and healthy vitamins as well. Now go sit at the dinner table and eat 5 apples at once. Hard to do right? Filling fiber prevents you from over indulging on concentrated sugars. It takes 5 apples to fill up that glass when you put it in a juicer...
Fruit juice if not diluted or drank with a balanced meal including something with fibre is actually quite bad for you. Whole fruits on the other hand are quite healthy.
Now depending on the vegeta
Malnution leading cause of diet caused deaths (Score:1)
The leading cause of death due to diet is malnutrition
1 in every 6 people on Earth don’t get enough food to live a healthy life. 36 million/yr people will die of hunger!
http://www.theworldcounts.com/counters/global_hunger_statistics/how_many_people_die_from_hunger_each_year
Better list? (Score:3)
>"more than half of them were caused by just three main dietary factors: low consumption of whole grains, low consumption of fruits, and high intake of sodium."
Interesting. Because from everything I have learned, those would not be the main three, especially as presented. I would say my top 5 issues, at least with the typical American diet, would be:
1) High consumption of simple carbohydrates (especially sugar)
2) High consumption of fried and overly processed foods
3) Low consumption of whole grains and fiber-rich foods
4) Low consumption of a variety of fresh vegetables
5) Over-consumption, in general (too many calories)
Fruit can be a good part of a varied diet (if in moderation, and WHOLE, not processed, and certainly not juice) but that wouldn't even make my "most important" list. Nor would sodium.
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If you ate just fruit you would kill those 5, except for the vegetables bullet point. Good luck with trying to consume too many calories by eating fruit alone.
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>"If you ate just fruit you would kill those 5, except for the vegetables bullet point. Good luck with trying to consume too many calories by eating fruit alone."
Most fruit is full of fructose- a simple sugar/carbohydrate. In moderation, that is fine, since it is partially regulated by the fiber and pectin in whole fruit. But if you "ate just fruit" you would be very malnourished from lack of proteins and other important nutrients not available in fruit. (I don't think you meant exactly what you wrote
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Fruit can be a good part of a varied diet (if in moderation, and WHOLE, not processed, and certainly not juice) but that wouldn't even make my "most important" list. Nor would sodium.
If your assumptions contradict research, you should seriously reconsider your assumptions.
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Every one of your points pales in comparison to the last, over consumption of kcal. Being overweight or obese is reversing the life expectancy in the US severely.
Did they say that smoking is not as bad as eating? (Score:2)
I have a hard time believing that smoking a pack-a-day is less bad than having white bread every day, even white bread with a McPatty on it. I think they said that bad diet kills more people than smoking, which might be true, but for an individual I'm pretty sure tobacco smoke is worse.
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everyone eats, not everyone smokes.
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What I said.
Once a friend pointed out that nutritionists had just said that coffee is bad for you, again. On even years they find that coffee is good for you.
Smoking? Bad
Fat, nitrates and sugar? Bad
Which is worse? Why bother
All you need is .... (Score:2)
Potatoes and milk. Potatoes have everything except vit. D & E I think, and milk has those, potatoes have everything else.
That should be âoedeferâ, not âoepr (Score:2)
We found that improvement of diet could potentially prevent one in every five deaths globally.
Should be:
We found that improvement of diet could potentially DEFER one in every five deaths globally.
Eating healthy and exercise are TOO HARD (Score:5, Informative)
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Most people would rather have a limb amputated rather than exercise regularly
I'd just do anything to lose weight -- except diet and exercise.
Once you put on weight it is permanatly harder (Score:4, Insightful)
So a few high stress years (say when your kids are born and both you and the wife work full time because one income hasn't been enough to afford a family since before Reagan was president) and you've just permanently made it harder to stay fit.
Add in the health problems that come with getting older (worse sleep being the big one) and you just can't burn as many calories as you used to, making it harder to keep the weight off.
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I gain weight eating a single meal a day and no snacks, nothing to drink except water and black coffee.
I dropped to four meals a week and didn't lose weight. Being hungry is easy.
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to lose it. That's because your body creates fat cells when you gain weight but does not destroy them when you lose it, they just shrink.
not sure, do you have a source. i read a study once (sorry, couldn't find the source atm), but it said the body just has a fixed amount of fat cells, which expand/shrink depending. there was no creation of new fat cells going on.
Um, lots of folks enjoy excersise (Score:4, Insightful)
As a people we're massively overworked. We use soda & junk food for the quick bursts of energy needed to get through the day. This has been and is getting worse because while food is widely available good paying jobs are not.
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I dropped twenty pounds when I retired, just from the reduction in stress. I'm slowly ramping up the exercise, and this is from a person who never exercised in any way at all, because now I have TIME. I'm not exercising to lose weight (I'm retired, who gives a fuck at this point), but just because I feel a bit better, and because it fills the time.
No, my diet isn't the best, but I'm not trying to be an Olympic athlete so I'm not going to eat like one. There's always some mythical best diet (which keeps c
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You don't need much protein.
E.g. as a rule of thumb if you want to gain weight as in muscles, for every X kg you already weight, the body can roughly convert X grams a day into muscles. Provided you train hard enough.
In other words: if you only want to stay fit the amount of protein you need is close to zero.
Japanese eat shitloads of carbs (Score:2)
What's needed to keep weight off is less stress or more stress. The Japanese do it with a fuck ton of social pressure. Look up some
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No, my diet isn't the best, but I'm not trying to be an Olympic athlete so I'm not going to eat like one.
Your diet is almost certainly better than many Olympic athletes. e.g. the guy that won gold at five consecutive olympics was on 7000 calories a day, resulting in type 2 diabetes.
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addictive
Its not addictive.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p... [nih.gov]
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You've massively missed the point on a social level.
Overwork + burnout in the west lead to lack of suitable exercise. Lack of facilities and city design that emphasis driving a car 100m down the road because of a lack of footpath contribute as well. People wouldn't rather amputate their limb, they necessarily work their assess off and then lack the motivation to do anything. You don't need need to go to crossfit every day to stay fit either.
Likewise you missed the point on food. In countries where obesity
They can prevent death? (Score:2)
Great, no more dying! How do they do that exactly?
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Gates Foundation = Eugenics Front (Score:1)
Lots of anecdotal stories about the Gates foundation seeming to inject people in Africa with mystery pharmaceuticals in the guise of vaccines and malaria treatment. Hard to really judge without firsthand knowledge, and especially because the theory as to motive is that the Gates foundation is a front for Eugenics.
But this dietary advice is diametrically opposite what the overwhelming weight of modern research... independent modern research not paid for by food companies that is... suggests
Whole grains ar
kidding ourselves (Score:2)
Diet is a lot like religion. People believe in it because it gives them comfort to believe they can control what happens to them just by making different choices of what to eat. It probably makes no difference whatsoever what you get calories from. For every theory there is conflicting evidence.
Every time we are certain we understand the perfect diet we find out we were very very wrong. All we know for sure is that if you stop eating you will die, but as for what type of food is 'healthier' or 'better' in s
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So she smoked away two racing yachts?
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Re: Sounds like propaganda to me... (Score:1)
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Humans have been subsisting on wheat since before the dawn of recorded history!
They've been eating raw eggs all that time too, but I'm not convinced it's a good idea.
I like bread so I'm going to keep eating it, but "people always ate wheat" isn't exactly a scientific analysis.
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Re: So? We need more people to die! (Score:1)
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No, pretty sure that they don't disagree. They haven't even read the study.
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Fuck them veterans, right! What did they do for us? Oh, that's right they only keep us safe from terrorism.
While the US military do many good and useful things, I'm not sure you can make that particular claim.
Admittedly it's not as laughable as the person that proclaimed US troops are "willing to take a bullet for freedom" but nonetheless US military actions abroad are a leading cause of anti-US terrorism.
Re: So, THIS WEEK carbs are Good? (Score:1)