Screen Time Not Intrinsically Bad For Children, Say Doctors (theguardian.com) 69
Spending time looking at screens is not intrinsically bad for children's health, say the UK's leading children's doctors, who are advising parents to focus on ensuring their children get enough sleep, exercise and family interaction rather than clamping down on phones and laptops. From a report: The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health has produced the first guidance for parents on how long children should spend on their laptops and phones, which throws the ball firmly back into the parents' court. Each family should decide what is best for its own members -- although all children would benefit from switching off the screen an hour before they go to bed to help them sleep. The college says the focus for parents should be on what the family is doing together, saying screen time is not an issue if parents have control over other aspects of their children's lives. The guidance appears to run counter to the thinking of the health secretary, Matt Hancock, a father of three young children, who has asked England's chief medical officer, Dame Sally Davies, to draw up some rules on the use of social media.
Oh no! (Score:5, Insightful)
What can we blame bad parenting on now? It used to be comic books, then radio, then TV, then violent video games.
This would possibly imply that kids learn bad behaviors by:
1. Watching their parents
2. Their parents not setting boundaries and sticking to them
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Ok language nerd. You are literally the stupidest person I have heard from today (take whichever meaning for the word you want there).
Language exists only to transfer information and ideas between people (or animals, ...). Words can take on completely opposite meanings over time (see origin of word stakeholder).
Also Oxford dictionary seems to think it is acceptable:
https://blog.oxforddictionarie... [oxforddictionaries.com]
https://en.oxforddictionaries.... [oxforddictionaries.com]
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Listen, "literally" has a meaning. It means "literally". How about you and yours quit being cunts and use a word(s) that actually means what you are trying to convey? I suggest "not actually" or "in all falseness"?
You're fighting a losing battle there I'm afraid. A lot of words are used "incorrectly", but once a large enough group of people use them incorrectly, it becomes, as Oxford has recognized a new definition.
Best you can do is have a laugh about it. Here are some quotes from Jamie Redknapp British football pundit, using the word "literally" in the modern "incorrect" way. He's literally the king of the new meaning of the word.
"These balls now - they literally explode off your feet."
"The ball literally gave him a haircut."
"He’s literally just eaten the fourth official."
“He literally chopped him in half in that challenge”
"He’s literally turned him inside out."
"[Michael Owen] literally turns into a greyhound"
"He had to cut back inside onto his left, because he literally hasn’t got a right foot"
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I think one of the main problems is that blaming the parents for not spending enough time looking after their children is not something many people who have children themselves want to hear.
A lot of people don't want others to tell them how to raise their kids. And let's face it, most people don't handle criticism well, but are prone to shift the blame to some scapegoat.
This par
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Parents and politicians basically expect them to treat every child like it was their own in their stressful jobs (especially with younger children).
Given all that the pay they receive is lousy. And it doesn't help to attract more people to this profession. This is part of a more generalized problem we have with caregivers and nurses.
Unless you get to college grade eduction, where students are participating out of their own volition, I've seen a couple of
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What can we blame bad parenting on now?
Some irony here. Blaming parenting for bad kids is often not much better than blaming video games.
Correlation between children and parental behaviour is mostly explained by genetics and the broader shared environment. With some obvious exceptions, especially for younger "spoiled kids", though I object to that term, as if it is just a lack of parental discipline, they can quickly learn how to follow the norms of their peer group when older.
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What can we blame bad parenting on now?
there are no bad parents, only bad children.
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Hallux-F-Sinister: Oh shit, there's a lump that shouldn't be there...uh-oh, it's bleeding.
Friend of Hallux-F-Sinister: You need to see a doctor.
Hallux-F-Sinister: No, they are all lying sacks of shit.
Friends of Hallux-F-Sinister: (Through bag over his head, tie hands) We're going to see a doctor.
Hallux-F-Sinister: Mmmmphhhh....
Doctor: Yep, what ya got there is a bog standard penis cancer. We can cure it but if you let it go, it will kill you.
Hallux-F-Sinister: You lying sack of shit, I'm not believing no do
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Yes, that's an option. Many scientists would love it if the public would just butt out and let them get on with it. Most realize that the public has both a right and a keen interest in ongoing research though. It IS unfortunate they're not more knowledgeable about it.
There are two big problems:
1) to get funding to do
Not intrinsically bad? (Score:5, Insightful)
There’s this quote later in the article:
But Prof Russell Viner, the college president and an author of the evidence review published in the BMJ Open journal, said that while there was moderately strong evidence that screen time is linked to obesity (through TV snacking and lack of exercise) and mental health issues, the way to tackle it was not through universal curfews and bans.
“It is important that we recognise that screens are a modern way of being,” he said. “Reading we see as a hugely positive thing, but it is largely a sedentary thing. We have never done studies to look at the link between reading and adiposity [being overweight] but it is sedentary [lifestyle]. Five hundred years ago we thought it was bad for women’s brains to teach them to read. Reading and pamphlets have radicalised a lot more young people than screens have ever done. Yet we somehow worry about screens being different.”
So, basically, we think it’s tied to obesity and mental illness, but so are other activities we accept, so it’s “not intrinsically bad”.
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The problem is that screens are so environmental that it's like fish trying to study the effects of water.
I'm thinking you have to follow McLuhan's lead and consider screens the latest manifestation of what started with the telegraph and the modern newspaper: study the effects of people having their senses stretched more and more out of the immediate physical vicinity every day into imaginary yet often real places.
Re:Not intrinsically bad? (Score:5, Insightful)
The idea that somehow "screens" are inherently bad for you, in a way that other things like paper are not, always seemed like the latest Luddism.
The UK college seems to have made a remarkably sensible statement: spending too much time at sedentary activities can have health implications; it's important to balance these with other, more active activities.
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The key is moderation. Do the things you enjoy like staring at a screen (and some of the things you don't
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If we applied your logic, we should do none of those things because they're all tied to bad effects on your body.
If that’s what you think my logic is, then there’s been a failure to communicate between us. I’m actually on the same page with you. I was merely pointing out the disconnect between the researchers acknowledging the known, ill effects of a sedentary lifestyle and linking those effects to this activity while simultaneously using the fact that the activity is socially accepted to dismiss those effects as harmful when they are linked to this activity.
I agree with you (and them) that the way t
Other things not intrinsically bad (Score:2)
Play a sport
Learn a musical instrument
Do their homework
Join scouts
Learn another language
Cook meals
Do their own laundry
Etc., etc., etc.
Blind leading the blind not intrinsically bad! (Score:2)
It's only when people are lead astray that's it's bad. See, totally not intrinsic. ;)
They are right (Score:2)
"Spending time looking at screens is not intrinsically bad for children's health,"
It's not the looking at screens per se that is unhealthy, it's the sitting on their asses for 12 hours that is.
Heading for myopia (Score:1)
Sure, screen time isn't *inherently* bad. (Score:2)
But then, neither is sugar.
Screen time vs. addictive behavior? (Score:2)
I haven't been one to buy screen time is bad in itself. The majority of my kid's screen time is educational stuff. My oldest kid is getting more into the toy videos. However, they do grow tire of it after maybe a half hour and put it down to do something else. If my wife and I start working on something in the yard or doing something interesting they'll put it down and get involved in what we're doing. The only time they really throw a fit about putting it down is at bedtime, but it's usually the typic
Intrinsic (Score:2)
Sure, not intrinsically bad, but there's still the opportunity cost of not doing something (more) worthwhile with their time.
Screen time and UK history (Score:2)
With the introduction of more screen time the UK has not become an educational, computer super power over a generation into the 1990's.
The UK consumer used Microsoft and Apple. Played lots of computer games.
Screen time did nothing good for the UK but make a generation buy into US game, computer, software and OS exports.
Enjoying too much computer time, compu
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Games too - mostly home g
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What is most interesting.. (Score:2)
No link to the paper. No mention on who paid for the study. Zero hits when searching for "screentime" and "Royal College of Paediatrics" in the same document query search.
is it just me? or is somebody actively hiding something, deep in that buried text that we are just not supposed to figure out?
The reporting of this was hilarious (Score:2)