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Childhood Obesity Linked To Air Pollution From Vehicles (theguardian.com) 166

Early exposure to air pollution from vehicles increases the risk of children becoming obese, new research has found. From a report: High levels of nitrogen dioxide, which is emitted by diesel engines, in the first year of life led to significantly faster weight gain later, the scientists found. Other pollutants produced by road traffic have also been linked to obesity in children by recent studies. Nitrogen dioxide pollution is at illegal levels in most urban areas in the UK and the government has lost three times in the high court over the inadequacy of its plans. The pollutant also plagues many cities in Europe and around the world. "We would urge parents to be mindful where their young children spend their time, especially considering if those areas are near major roads," said Jeniffer Kim, at the University of Southern California, who led the new research. "The first year of life is a period of rapid development of various systems in the body [and] may prime the body's future development." The World Health Organization (WHO) revealed last Monday that 90% of the world's children are breathing unsafe air, a situation described as "inexcusable" by the WHO's head. Concern over the impact of toxic air on children's health is rising as research reveals serious long-term damage to both their physical and mental health.
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Childhood Obesity Linked To Air Pollution From Vehicles

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  • and ... and ... (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    and eating too much. probably more the fault.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by geekmux ( 1040042 )

      and eating too much. probably more the fault.

      How dare you accuse those who should be! You must be some kind of racist.

      Personal accountability was deemed unethical and immoral. Seems it doesn't help move #PerpetualVictims forward towards their special flavor of "progress".

      • by SirSlud ( 67381 )

        I don't know where you got your hard on for "nobody is personally accountable these days and the problem is always that" but it's not emotionally healthy or mature and says a lot more about you than any supposed wisdom you think you might have.

        • I don't know where you got your hard on for "nobody is personally accountable these days and the problem is always that" but it's not emotionally healthy or mature and says a lot more about you than any supposed wisdom you think you might have.

          I think you may have been missing things....these days EVERYONE is trying to lay claim to professional victim-hood.

          Nothing is "your" fault....it is the fault of xyz, or this race or gender or society in general.

          It is always someone else's fault and it is up to soci

        • I don't know where you got your hard on for "nobody is personally accountable these days and the problem is always that" but it's not emotionally healthy or mature and says a lot more about you than any supposed wisdom you think you might have.

          Personal accountability is one of those things that tends to affect a shitload of things in your life, both good and bad. And obesity is overwhelmingly attributed to personal decisions, so my theory is hardly delusional. No it's not "always" that. In this case, it's about 95% that.

          That said, perhaps we should look at TFA to see what kind of crisis this actually is:

          "...by age 10, children suffering high early exposure were almost 1kg heavier on average than those with low exposure."

          Today, over 30% of children aged 2 - 19 are overweight or obese, and that's before you account for a whopping one kilogram difference by age

    • by sjames ( 1099 )

      Meanwhile there's all those people getting the flu because they breath too much.

      If they'd just man up and hold their breath when they're in public they wouldn't get sick.

    • Perhaps its driving around everywhere which contributes to both
    • by m00sh ( 2538182 )

      and eating too much. probably more the fault.

      No.

      The cause of obesity is the body storing fat beyond 20% of the body weight

      Nobody got fat eating too much celery.

    • by edibobb ( 113989 )
      That is 100% correct.
      1. Calories digested - calories burned = fat.

      Incidentally...
      2. Correlation <> causation.
  • by 3seas ( 184403 ) on Monday November 05, 2018 @12:31PM (#57594864) Homepage Journal

    High Fructose Corn Syrup? Make since given the ethanol added.

  • I could swear that people are just looking at http://tylervigen.com/spurious... [tylervigen.com] for ideas to make new headlines with.

    • by Luthair ( 847766 )
      I wondered if there was something like kids in rural areas are more likely to play outside than those in urban environments.
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        To the powers that be in urban areas "rural areas" do not exist and thus are of no concern in their world.

        Just my 2 cents ;)
      • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

        I wondered if there was something like kids in rural areas are more likely to play outside than those in urban environments.

        Obesity is higher in rural areas [cdc.gov].

        Perhaps rural kids are LESS likely to play outside, since an urban park full of other kids is a nicer place to play than a rural cornfield.

    • Sunspots (Score:2, Insightful)

      by goombah99 ( 560566 )

      sunspots have risen too.

      • Have they?

        I was under the distinct impression that sunspots where unexpectedly low in number. Not a Maunder Minimum, but it has been very disruptive to HF radio propagation as a lack of sunspots thins out the ionosphere and drives the MUF (Maximum Usable Frequency) down. The lower bands are *really* impacted by impulse noise (lighting, arching and other very loud RF sources) and for ham radio operators stuffs a lot of us in very small and narrow portions of the 75 and 40 meter bands.

    • It is also not hard to think of likely causal connections either: areas with high air pollution are either likely to be poorer and/or have more traffic which will mean less playing outside and fewer trips to the grocery store making processed foods with longer shelf lives more appealing than fresh produce. I wish journals would remember that correlation != causation and refuse to publish crap like this without actual evidence of cause.
    • I could swear that people are just looking at http://tylervigen.com/spurious... [tylervigen.com] for ideas to make new headlines with.

      Yeah, I grew up less than a quarter mile from one of the major city highways and about a half a mile from the other major freeway (both feeding a city pop around 200k). When I started college I was 5'9" and 115 pounds (male, so more than a little skinny), since I left home I'm a more healthy weight but far from any overweight category in my late 30s. So am I just an outlier in this study (yeah I know, one data point out of 7.5 billion and all that...)?

      • Yeah, I grew up less than a quarter mile from one of the major city highways and about a half a mile from the other major freeway (both feeding a city pop around 200k). When I started college I was 5'9" and 115 pounds (male, so more than a little skinny), since I left home I'm a more healthy weight but far from any overweight category in my late 30s. So am I just an outlier in this study (yeah I know, one data point out of 7.5 billion and all that...)?

        I'm guessing you didn't take any sociological or statistics classes in college? Bell curves, how do they work!?

    • I could swear that people are just looking at http://tylervigen.com/spurious... [tylervigen.com] for ideas to make new headlines with.

      I dunno, I believe the divorce/margarine one. Seems like a clear correlation.

    • No idea why you were downmodded.

      Key in these cases is always what the researches corrected for. In this case they are:
      "age, sex, race/ethnicity, parental education, Spanish questionnaire, and later childhood near-road NOx exposure"
      ( https://ehjournal.biomedcentra... [biomedcentral.com] )

      That is a pretty paltry list of possible other causes.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Pollution standards are far stricter than they used to be, so we should be seeing a decrease in obesity if this is such a major factor.

    These are just environmental activists who are trying to exploit "intersectionality" with the well-publicised obesity epidemic, so as to promote their war on mankind's industrialisation.

    You'll never convince mankind to tear down its hard-won development. Make better machines, or STFU.

    • Per device it might be generating less. But there are more devices. ...and they're made by VW...and clean coal.

    • by Luthair ( 847766 )
      Depends on whether our pollution standards happen to target the chemicals or if they were considered harmless and irrelevant.
      • by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Monday November 05, 2018 @01:36PM (#57595294)

        Depends on whether our pollution standards happen to target the chemicals

        They do. Catalytic converters specifically target nitrogen oxides, and NO2 levels have fallen dramatically [epa.gov] over the last 20 years.

        Has there been a corresponding decrease in childhood obesity? No.

        To be fair, older cars produce much more NO2 than newer models, so kids in low income neighborhoods are more likely to have higher NO2 exposure, and are more likely to be obese. But even in low income areas, NO2 levels have fallen, with no corresponding decrease in childhood obesity.

        • and I'm not alone. Also, smog days (if you don't know, these are days you're not supposed to go outside to play because the smog is bad enough to impact long term health) have been increasing, not decreasing.

          We've lowered the rate at which things get worse, but we haven't stopped making them worse. I'll take that over doing nothing, but I'd kill for functional public transportation (and no, sacrificing 4 hours out of my day is not "function". I swear, buddy of mine was convinced there was a bus stop rig
        • by e3m4n ( 947977 )

          IMO soda's made the most sense. I was born in 71. I watched the proliferation of soda unfold. I watched the pepsi challenge and all the free 12 packs in just about every giveaway. I remember the first time going to a restaurant that gave free refills on soda. To a kid thats like giving unlimited candy at a candy store.

  • Makes sense (Score:2, Insightful)

    by rsilvergun ( 571051 )
    when you can't get as much oxygen into your system you can't exercise as much. Cyclists (of which I am one) have known this for a long time.

    I wish we could get the environmentalist crowd to stop banging on about shaving whales and talk more about stuff like this.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by alvinrod ( 889928 )
      So we just need to give the kids some EPO then? Seems to work for the cyclists.

      Really though, you don't need extensive exercise to lose weight, just better eating habits. I dropped 30 lbs. a few years back just by cutting out unnecessary snack foods and other crap without doing additional high-intensity exercise. It's much easier not to put an additional 600 calories into your body than it is to burn that 600 calories (on top of what you already do) off later.
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  • The more cars are around, the less children are walking.

    When a child has to walk or bike to school it is less likely to be obese than when it's driven by soccer mom in her SUV.

    • When a child has to walk or bike to school it is less likely to be obese than when it's driven by soccer mom in her SUV.

      Eh ... if said child is being driven to soccer, I'm not sure that's actually true ...

  • I advise all my children not to eat anything that comes out of the exhaust pipe of a car.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    In first world countries these "scientists" might think this is plausible but as soon as you include a bunch of third world countries this is BS.

    You can go to highly polluted cities in third world counties and guess what, the vast majority of all people are skinny. You can go to the countryside both polluted and not polluted and guess what, most people are skinny.

    And these people could over-indulge on food if they wanted to, they just don't.

    No, the answer is social acceptance (how "okay" is it to be fat in

    • by wtbman ( 1996948 )
      Came here to say what you've already said. Can they explain why the children in Peru are mostly super skinny? The thick fog of diesel smoke is so bad you can't even see very far most days in Lima. I don't believe this one bit. It seems like diet is to blame more than anything.
      • explain why the children in Peru are mostly super skinny? The thick fog of diesel smoke is so bad you can't even see very far most days in Lima.

        That is easy: the diesel engines that smoke heavily burn at low temperatures, leaving lots of unburned carbon. The oxides of nitrogen are produced by burning the nitrogen in the air, not diesel. This only became a problem after diesel engines were modified to run hotter reduce the carbon dioxide. To create lots of oxides of nitrogen, the engines have to run seri

    • with multiple, often interlinking factors, resulting in a world where black and white determinations don't hold up under even a little scrutiny let alone scientific investigation...

      Naw, little porkers just need to eat less, amiright?
    • by e3m4n ( 947977 )

      fucking excellent response! you didnt state any opinions, just the insanity of 'WE HAVE THE ANSWER NOW!' type articles. It reminds me how many times they flipped their stance on eggs.

      • WE HAVE THE ANSWER NOW! type articles

        They are the bane of science. Note that 'linked to' just implies the correlation, not the causation. It goes south when the retarded 'science reporters' say things such as 'High levels of nitrogen dioxide, which is emitted by diesel engines, in the first year of life led to significantly faster weight gain later, the scientists found'.
        That implies causation, something never done in the original paper ( https://ehjournal.biomedcentra... [biomedcentral.com] ).

        It reminds me how many times they flipped their stance on eggs.

        Who flipped their stance, exactly?
        It wasn't the scientists. It was the

  • Right (Score:4, Insightful)

    by argStyopa ( 232550 ) on Monday November 05, 2018 @01:46PM (#57595372) Journal

    ....because Nairobi street kids are famously obese?

    "...The scientists took a series of other factors into account, including gender, ethnicity and parental education, and think it is unlikely that variations in diet could explain the strong link found...."

    I'd suspect confounding factors like poverty, urbanization, and THOSE impacts on peoples' diets in the early years of life (or the diets of their nursing mothers) before I'd point a finger at the trucks driving by.

    Don't get me wrong, I think early childhood development is probably stunted by particulates, NOx, etc *particularly* from diesel vehicles, but I think this study is merely finding correlation.

  • What a joke! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nanospook ( 521118 ) on Monday November 05, 2018 @02:08PM (#57595532)
    People and kids are obese because our food supply has become contaminated with huge amounts of sugar and carbs. A huge number of American's are now diabetic as a result. The drug, foods, and medical corporations are all in cahoots on this. That there is no outcry from the government is in my opinion, because the corps are running the show.. https://www.cdc.gov/media/rele... [cdc.gov]
    • I don't disagree with your premise. We have way too much convenient, easily accessible (and tasty!) food that has a lot of carbs and sugar in it.

      What I have a problem with is the idea it's government's job to step in, playing the role of parent, to force people to make "better food choices" by punishing people offering the less healthy options that are so popular.

      Heck, I know I eat way too much sugary and processed food, myself. But I wouldn't be happy at all if my government outlawed the stuff I'm buying o

    • Sugar was the a wonder food. Sugared cereals originated there. There were little or no diet drinks and no Atkins or Paleo diets. The big upswing in obesity started in the 80s.
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  • by p51d007 ( 656414 )
    Tell me how often you see kids in vehicles, with the WINDOWS DOWN. Probably almost never, because mommy is on the phone and doesn't want the noise LOL.
  • The research investigated the impact of air pollution from busy main roads, where diesel trucks are common, in the crucial first year of life. They found that by age 10, children suffering high early exposure were almost 1kg heavier on average than those with low exposure. The scientists took a series of other factors into account, including gender, ethnicity and parental education, and think it is unlikely that variations in diet could explain the strong link found.

    It appears they didn't actually check die

  • It's junk science like this that helps fuel the anti-science sentiment that's all too popular these days...

  • ... produces more NOx than vehicles do. But that's OK because NOx compounds are critical for plant life.

    Might as well try to ban water because kids drown in it.

  • Nitrogen dioxide pollution is at illegal levels in most urban areas in the UK

    Not for long, thanks to that lovely Mr Farage. He's always so nicely turned out, isn't he?

    We'll breathe whatever we want! Hydrogen chloride, benzene, ozone. That'll stick it to the barmy bureau belgocrats!

  • In a similar vein to the subject article, we've had evidence that "social deprivation" is responsible for obesity. Now social deprivation tends to mean poor housing, which collects around (among other place) city centres, roads and junctions and the like, polluted places. (If you can afford it, you live in the country, or overlooking a park or river). So there's a possible reverse causality for a correlation between obesity and pollution. There's far too much of this bad science based on misusing statis
  • was of some fat kid in the back seat of a car letting one rip so bad, you could see the windows vibrate.
  • Please note that it is _not_ the food industry producing over-sweetened products loaded with corn-based sweeteners and the side issue that the SAD (Standard American Diet) causes diabetics and consequently Alzheimer's!

    So, blaming something else seems to do the trick!

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