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Red Meat Allergies Caused By Tick Bites Are On The Rise (npr.org) 125

Tick bites can cause all sorts of nasty afflictions. And if you're bitten by a Lone Star tick, here's one more to add to the list: a red meat allergy. NPR reports: About 10 years ago, Dr. Scott Commins, an allergist and associate professor of medicine at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, was among the first physicians to identify the allergy in patients with tick bites. Back then, there were just a few dozen known cases. That has increased dramatically. "We're confident the number is over 5,000 [cases], and that's in the U.S. alone," Commins says. There are also cases in Sweden, Germany and Australia -- likely linked to other species of ticks. In the U.S., the Lone Star tick has expanded its range beyond the Southeast, and there are documented cases of alpha gal meat allergies farther north -- including New York, Maine and Minnesota. "The range of the tick is expanding," says Commins. So is awareness about the red meat allergy it can cause. "We have a blood test, and the word is getting out."
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Red Meat Allergies Caused By Tick Bites Are On The Rise

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  • by Anonymous Coward
    Finally, an issue to bridge the divide. Left, Right, liberal, conservative, let us all band together and exterminate this blight.

    Not you though, vegans. Nobody likes you.
    • by Immerman ( 2627577 ) on Monday June 25, 2018 @07:06PM (#56845338)

      >Not you though, vegans. Nobody likes you.

      You've cracked it, right there. There is no "lone star tick induced meat allergy" - it's just a convenient cover story to allow people to survive being vegetarian in Texas. :-D

      • Now we know what all those Vegans were doing slinking around in the woods!

    • Not you though, vegans. Nobody likes you.

      Here we see that what really irritates meat eaters, far more than ticks, are vegans. I guess it's the tiny prickings of conscience.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by PseudoAnon ( 5437498 )
        You had a great comment until you demonstrated the holier-than-thou attitude that leads people to dislike vegans as a group.

        People are more receptive to what others have to say when the people trying to spread behavioral change don't preach about being better than everyone else.
        • I should have said "a few meat eaters", specifically those who denigrate vegans. It seems like many of them protest too much and appear to be trying to convince themselves as much as their audience, similar to some of those holy men who loudly extol family values. I don't speak for vegans, I'm not a vegan.

  • by Stormy Dragon ( 800799 ) on Monday June 25, 2018 @04:37PM (#56844688)

    Tick bites can cause all sorts of nasty afflictions. And if you're bitten by a Lone Star tick, here's one more to add to the list: a red meat allergy.

    Burn down nature! It's a luxury we can no longer afford!

  • The first thing I thought of was The Giving Plague [davidbrin.com] by David Brin

    • That was a damned good read.
    • The first thing I thought of was The Giving Plague [davidbrin.com] by David Brin

      In real life there are multiple factors that can disqualify you from donating blood. Having received a blood transfusion is one of them.

      • The first thing I thought of was The Giving Plague [davidbrin.com] by David Brin

        In real life there are multiple factors that can disqualify you from donating blood. Having received a blood transfusion is one of them.

        Depends. In the U.S., it's a year deferral, I believe. (Same deferral I got due to spending a week in Bangalore.)

        However, in the U.S., having received a transfusion in Britain is a lifetime ban on donating blood, due to a certain prion disease that hit Britain pretty hard a few decades ago. Variant CJD may take decades to show up, but can be transmitted by blood in all that time.

        Brin's story (his usual political hobby-horses beaten to splinters aside) is very good, but he made a mistake on the religion

        • by Megol ( 3135005 )

          Is someone choosing to dedicate their life to ease the suffering of others really a vile individual? Compare that to the people in the story that act altruistically because they are forced to by a disease, are they really better humans?

          • He was planning to murder his friend, not "thinking about it", but making actual preparations, when his friend caught a lethal plague and died first.

        • by quenda ( 644621 )

          in the U.S., having received a transfusion in Britain is a lifetime ban on donating blood, due to a certain prion disease that hit Britain pretty hard a few decades ago.

          In Australia, just having lived in the UK back then will bet you a lifetime ban on donating blood.
          It has been twenty years and I'm fine..... MMMMooooooooooo!

      • You can so long as you wait 12 months after receiving either a blood transfusion or an organ. Others are accepted as well after a 12 month suspension, such as: renting the four dirtiest hookers you can find and having a fivesome, receiving buttsex, and receiving gonorrea. Clamydia, herpes, and genital warts are not crimes however, so you don't have to wait 12 months to donate, as you've already been punished.

        Some crimes are beyond redemption, however, including exchanging bodily fluids with an Englishman or

    • Only if the one who discovered it was vegan and discovered it year's ago. It is a pretty advantageous symbiotic relationship for the tick though if all the infected omnivorous predators stop killing off potential hosts.
  • by Tablizer ( 95088 ) on Monday June 25, 2018 @04:43PM (#56844720) Journal

    It's okay, I only eat vegetarian ticks.

    • It's okay, I only eat vegetarian ticks.

      I honestly thought meat allergy was a slur for vegetarians. At least that is how I have used it ;)

  • PETA (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 25, 2018 @04:54PM (#56844774)

    Can we tell if this tick has been genetically modified by PETA?

    • Re:PETA (Score:4, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 25, 2018 @07:23PM (#56845430)

      If the tick has been stolen out of someone's yard despite being microchipped, then kept in a cage for a couple of days before being killed by blunt force trauma from half a brick, then, yes. PETA have been at work.

    • Re:PETA (Score:4, Insightful)

      by pots ( 5047349 ) on Tuesday June 26, 2018 @12:17AM (#56846188)
      It's not the tick that causes the allergy, the tick just transmits a protein which is common to most mammals, but which apes lack. So our immune systems develop antibodies, and subsequently react to the presence of this protein.

      In other words: yes, we can tell if this tick has been genetically modified by PETA. It hasn't.

      I realize that was probably a joke, but people say some crazy shit about PETA sometimes...
      • I realize that was probably a joke, but people say some crazy shit about PETA sometimes...

        People in PETA say some crazy shit sometimes.

      • by quenda ( 644621 )

        I realize that was probably a joke, but people say some crazy shit about PETA sometimes...

        Sadly, a lot of the crazy shit is true.

  • Won't somebody PLEASE think about The Bacon! Pork is actually red meat, does this mean no more Bacon if bit?
    • by Anonymous Coward

      You just need to cook it longer until it's black. There aren't any black meat allergies. But you are what you eat, so your chances of being arrested might go up.

    • by AvitarX ( 172628 )

      My friend has this problem, it's all mammals except for maybe apes, monkeys, chimps.

  • by Anubis IV ( 1279820 ) on Monday June 25, 2018 @05:42PM (#56845016)

    My wife spent a few years working in Southeast Asia. While there she started having symptoms like what you'd expect with lactose intolerance, except that she had always been able to drink milk without issue. She tried cutting milk out, but the symptoms continued. After talking with a local doctor, she found out that there was something different about the way they raised cows there, that the symptoms she was experiencing were not uncommon among Westerners who moved to the region, and that the reason the symptoms were persisting was because they could be caused by any cow-based product, not just milk.

    She had to cut out all beef, milk, and other cow-based products while she was there for a few years. By the time she got back to the West, she hadn't had cow's milk in over two years, so her body had lost the ability to process lactose entirely, leaving her well and truly lactose intolerant at that point. As for the issues with beef? So far as we know they disappeared as soon as she got back, though she was understandably gun shy about eating it for a few years. It wasn't until nearly a year into our marriage (three years after she had gotten back to the States) that I could convince her to even try beef again.

    Anyway, it's interesting to see how different establishments respond when she mentions she's lactose intolerant. She'll usually try to avoid the topic by simply asking if a dish contains milk or cream, rather than trying to explain things. If they ask why and she has to say the words "lactose intolerance", half of them react as if she had said she could die at any moment, at which point she needs to clarify that, no, she doesn't have an allergy and they don't need to scrub the kitchen down. The other half reacts dismissively, at which point she rattles off this line about loving milk and cream even though they don't love her, which usually convinces the wait staff that she isn't one of those people falsely claiming an intolerance for ideological/nutritional reasons.

    But, by far, my favorite reaction from a wait person was this time that we were ordering dessert at a decent restaurant and my wife asked if there were any desserts she'd be able to have, having mentioned earlier in the meal that she was lactose intolerant. After rattling off the list of desserts and acknowledging that each had cream, the waitress finished the list by saying, "I'll need to check on the creme brûlée, since I don't think it has cream in it." We didn't have the heart to tell her that it literally had "cream" in the name, and the waitress even asked "are you sure?" when we told her it definitely had cream in it.

    • "Don't attribute to external forces what can be explained by getting old."

      Often stuff just plain breaks down in the body as one gradually grows older. It's like an old car: every other month something new goes wrong, and some things gradually get worse. Therefore, oddities may not necessarily have an external cause. Your medicine cabinet typically grows ever larger as you age.

      Our bodies haven't evolved to live past 45 or so. Half of Johann Sebastian Bach's children died quite early, and that was common ba

      • While I agree that age can explain many issues, including some cases of food intolerance, I fail to see the relevance here. As I said, the one issue (a beef intolerance) went away as soon as she left the region, which would serve as a contraindication to age being the cause, and the other (a lactose intolerance) has a well-established cause that applied to her: she didn’t ingest lactose for several years.

        Really, I’d suggest that your quote is a false truism. Rephrased, it’s saying nothing

    • Interesting-- I had similar experiences after a couple years in Thailand. Didn't eat much beef while there, but the milk and yogurt were not my friends.

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      Anyway, it's interesting to see how different establishments respond when she mentions she's lactose intolerant. She'll usually try to avoid the topic by simply asking if a dish contains milk or cream, rather than trying to explain things. If they ask why and she has to say the words "lactose intolerance", half of them react as if she had said she could die at any moment, at which point she needs to clarify that, no, she doesn't have an allergy and they don't need to scrub the kitchen down. The other half r

      • Exactly. A blogger I follow has a kid with a dairy allergy. When he was four, they took him to the doctor's office to do a controlled test to gauge the severity of the allergy. The doctor started with a single teaspoon of milk. After swallowing it, the kid apparently had time to say, "Mommy, I feel weird", before immediately passing out and going into anaphylactic shock. To say the least, he has a severe allergy.

        As I said in my original post, I don't appreciate people who make my wife's life difficult by fa

    • By the time she got back to the West, she hadn't had cow's milk in over two years, so her body had lost the ability to process lactose entirely, leaving her well and truly lactose intolerant at that point.

      This doesn't sound right to me. You can't prevent lactose intolerance by drinking more milk -- if that worked then I wouldn't be lactose intolerant today. By the same token, you can't induce lactose intolerance by removing lactose.

      Your body will produce lactase according to your genes. Humans are weird that so many of us continue to produce it through adulthood, but even so less than half of us do. Most mammals lose it shortly after weaning. It's normal for humans to lose it right around the beginning

      • You can't prevent lactose intolerance by drinking more milk -- if that worked then I wouldn't be lactose intolerant today. By the same token, you can't induce lactose intolerance by removing lactose.

        So, yes and no. You're right that you can't prevent it by drinking milk, but drinking milk does indeed prevent one cause of it. Swap "lactose intolerance" for "malnutrition" or some other condition that can be caused by a deficiency. If I suggested that failing to eat regularly could result in malnutrition and you rebutted that you knew someone suffering from malnutrition despite them eating regularly, it'd be fallacious to conclude that I was wrong about a lack of eating causing malnutrition based on what

  • by hyades1 ( 1149581 ) <hyades1@hotmail.com> on Monday June 25, 2018 @05:47PM (#56845044)

    The Lone Star Tick joins a long list of blood-sucking parasites from Texas. Most of the others, however, have been politicians.

    • The Lone Star Tick joins a long list of blood-sucking parasites from Texas. Most of the others, however, have been politicians.

      However: More of them, at least the politician type, come from California.

      • Let's be fair, Ixodes Polites is endemic to the entire planet.
  • We all know we eat too much meat for the practice to be sustainable, but even once one admit it, it is not easy to give it up.

    But here come ticks to the rescue. Once allergic to meat it is much easier to become vegan. Ticks will save the planet!

    • We all know we eat too much meat for the practice to be sustainable, but even once one admit it, it is not easy to give it up.

      This is true or untrue depending on where you live. Or are you aggregating all people across the globe into a single entity? Seems unfair to deprive a sparsely populated area because other areas maxed out their population. That would put an interesting spin on the immigration debate though.

      • Your name is liquid_schwartz and you made no joke or reference to the "Lone Star" tick name.

        Granted it's spelled "Lone Starr" in the movie, but still.

    • Obviously, the thing to do is to start eating ticks. Ignore the tiny cries of "SPOON!"

  • I have always liked all seafood (yes, even uni), but about ten years ago, with no warning, I developed an allergy to mussels. Could this have come from some random insect bite?

  • by dargaud ( 518470 ) <slashdot2@nOSpaM.gdargaud.net> on Tuesday June 26, 2018 @12:33AM (#56846220) Homepage
    The spread of ticks and associated diases has multiple factors: lack of predators (dur to hunting), spread of some (imported) bushes where they shelter for the winter, warmer and wetter winters (they die if it's too dry or cold), etc... But one thing you can do about it is stop bringing your fucking dogs everywhere you go. That's how the ticks cross deserts or oceans.

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