Curiosity Rover Decides, By Itself, What To Investigate On Mars (sciencemag.org) 73
sciencehabit writes: NASA's Curiosity rover landed on Mars in 2012, in part to analyze rocks to see whether the Red Planet was ever habitable (or inhabited). But now the robot has gone off script, picking out its own targets for analysis -- precisely as planned. Last year, NASA scientists uploaded a piece of software called Autonomous Exploration for Gathering Increased Science (AEGIS) adapted from the older Opportunity rover. Curiosity can now scan each new location and use artificial intelligence to find promising targets for its ChemCam. Compared with the estimated 24% success rate of random aiming at picking out outcrops -- a prime target for investigation -- the current version of AEGIS lets the rover find them 94% of the time, researchers report.
Rover, FETCH! (Score:3)
"We're too lazy to tell it what to look for, so we just let it do its thing and present that as an achievement".
But seriously, interesting story.
94% of what? (Score:5, Insightful)
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Its the probability that noone cares.
" Look there are lots more rocks that are the same as all the other rocks we've seen on this toxic desert planet with almost no atmosphere. Who knew. I have better things to do - I.e prepare to waste more tax payers money on the next one. Activate the AI."
As a long time slashdot poster that used to have a nore positive outlook. I just want to say humanity doesn't speak for me or represent me. If they put aman on Mars I dont care. Its a waste of money. Their "achievemen
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If they put aman on Mars I dont care. Its a waste of money.
Well, yes. Rice is not a prime candidate for cultivation on Mars, even hardy winter crops like aman.
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"We're too lazy to tell it what to look for, so we just let it do its thing and present that as an achievement".
But seriously, interesting story.
Well ... I see it more as "Damn it, we called it Curiosity and I'll be damned if we don't give it some!"
Crash in a parked trailer (Score:2)
Will it autonomously crash in a parked trailer ?
Re:Crash in a parked trailer (Score:4, Funny)
Will it autonomously crash in a parked trailer ?
That's why you run such a prototype 390 million km [wolframalpha.com] from the nearest trailer.
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>> That's why you run such a prototype ...
The prototype is much much more closer to trailers :
https://www.google.de/webhp?ie... [google.de]
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I mean the one doing field testing.
Number Five Is Alive! (Score:5, Interesting)
Number Five from Short Circuit [ssl-images-amazon.com]
Things that make you go hmm...
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hmmmmmmm
Twaddle (Score:5, Insightful)
If that was planned, then by definition it's not off script. If a music score says "imrovise" or a sc-fi script says "// technobabble here" then that's what was planned.
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If that was planned, then by definition it's not off script. If a music score says "imrovise" or a sc-fi script says "// technobabble here" then that's what was planned.
It is worse than that. If a music script says "improvise", or a sci-fi script says "technobabble", one can do anything, using creativity, deliberation, whatever and however. All the rover is doing is operating according to pre-defined algorithms -- defined by the programmers. There is nothing "autonomous" about it.
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Has there ever been a project with a better cost to science ratio than the mars rover?
I would say the discovery of fire and the invention of agriculture have provided far more returns.
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But they have had tens of thousands of years to generate those returns. Whats the return on this mars rover over the same period?
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Pro tip: there's no need to prefix 'rock' with 'dead'.
Actually, there is. Although the rock itself is not "dead" or "alive", a "Live Rock" is one that supports it's own mini ecosystem of bacteria and other micro fauna and flora.
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Disco sucks!
Live music is best!
(Sorry, I'll go back to bed now.)
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Disco sucks!
Live music is best!
(Sorry, I'll go back to bed now.)
I dunno.
I always hate when I buy an album without studying it first and realise it's full of crappy live tracks.
Please, give me the version of the song without people coughing and clapping in the background
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To be 100% fair, many concerts are just the artists lip-synching their own stuff most of the time. The atmosphere comes from other people in the audience. That atmosphere doesn't carry over on a CD though- fans cheering on CD is about as welcome as a laugh track on a sitcom.
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They're not science, they're engineering.
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I would say the discovery of fire and the invention of agriculture have provided far more returns.
Which puts Curiosity in some pretty elite company.
What could possibly go wrong? (Score:2)
Autonomous laser firing rover uses AI to choose target to be obliterated. I just hope it stays trapped on Mars.
Re:What could possibly go wrong? (Score:4, Funny)
Oblig XKCD :
https://xkcd.com/1504/ [xkcd.com]
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Either Opportunity will have an ally in it's endeavors or competition for domination with Curiosity. It should be interesting to see what XKCD does with this. Of course Opportunity will have to be able to hang around and prove it's stamina.
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The question is, can it use its laser to smelt metals and create spare parts, additions, and (one day) rockets? Will it join up with other Mars rovers we might send and recombine their onboard plans and manuals to build new little roverlets equally well equipped?
If so, one day I hope to greet our new Mars Rover overlords!
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AI of this type has been on the cards for a while. It was trialed on the recent probe to Vesta and Ceres.
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Remote Agent (RAX), remote intelligent self-repair software developed at NASA's Ames Research Center and the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, was the first artificial-intelligence control system to control a spacecraft without human supervision.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Remember this is "weak AI" (Score:3)
I.e. the "AI" with no "I" in it. Before the demented AI hype, this was called "automation".
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I member when they be called You-Risk-It Al-Gore-Rhythms.
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Before the demented AI hype, this was called "automation".
No, before the demented AI hype, this was called "we don't know how to do this".
And yes, we all know it's "weak AI".
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We didn't know how to write *these* algorithms. At least, I'm not aware of any algorithms, before the AI hype, that could do what Watson, AlphaGo or autonomous vehicles can do.
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These were called "Expert Systems" back then and while they worked on smaller Databases and had to be fed pre-translated data, they were not conceptionally different to Watson.
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The cool thing about Watson is that you can feed in documents in natural language. The other is its scale. A well-maintained Watson "state" for a specific area is extremely useful for looking things up fast and with high accuracy and completeness. As such it can save an export a lot of time when analyzing things. But it cannot do your thinking for you and IBM does not claim that. Last statement I heard from am IBM expert was "certainly not in the next 50 years and after that, who knows". As these people rea
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Obviously not. I'm talking about automation that we couldn't do, but that's now possible due to demented AI hype.
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That does not exist. Only the scale is a bit different now.
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That is bullshit. Also, why keep people talking about "intelligent", when supposedly they know it is weak AI?
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Automatic route finding *and* following it, especially with several propelled wheels in an difficult environment (sand / slippery ground etc.) was always considered weak AI, or part of the 'field of AI'.
I worked ariund 1989/1991 in robotics with self driving robots. They had several 68040 CPUs and ultra sonic sensors to measure their position. Four wheels that had diagonal rolls in their tires, so by rolling the front wheels backward and the rear wheels forward the robot would shift because of the rolls to
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Now we know how it started. (Score:1)
"...then Curiosity became self-aware... (Score:2)
That's what our grandkids will be telling their kids about the war between Mars and Earth.