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Our Atmosphere Is Leaking Oxygen and Scientists Don't Know Why (gizmodo.com) 167

The Earth's atmosphere has been leaking oxygen and scientists don't know why. Researchers discovered that over the past 800,000 years, atmospheric oxygen levels have dropped by 0.7 percent. How exactly did they discover the leak? By observing ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica, which contain trapped air bubbles representing snapshots of our atmosphere over the past million-odd years. Gizmodo reports: By examining the ratio of oxygen to nitrogen isotopes within these cores, the researchers were able to pull out a trend: oxygen levels have fallen by 0.7 percent over the past 800,000 years, meaning sinks are roughly 2 percent larger than sources. Writing today in Science, the researchers offer a few possible explanations. For one, erosion rates appear to have sped up in recent geologic history, causing more fresh sediment to be exposed and oxidized by the atmosphere, causing more oxygen to be consumed. Long-term climate change could also be responsible. Recent human-induced warming aside, our planet's average temperature had been declining a bit over the past few million years. [Princeton University geologist Daniel Stolper] added that there could be other explanations, too, and figuring out which is correct could prove quite challenging. But learning what controls the knobs in our planet's oxygen cycle is worth the effort. It could help us understand what makes a planet habitable at all -- something scientists are rather keen on, given recent exoplanet discoveries. Stolper's analysis excluded one very unusual part of the record: the last 200 years of industrial human society. "We are consuming O2 at a rate a factor of a thousand times faster than before," Stolper said. "Humankind has completely short-circuited the cycle by burning tons of carbon."
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Our Atmosphere Is Leaking Oxygen and Scientists Don't Know Why

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  • OMG (Score:1, Redundant)

    Oxygen levels can't go up, where would the oxygen come from? It's very improbable that oxygen levels stay the same, over time nothing stays the same in nature. The only remaining option is that oxygen levels go down. Problem solved.

    • The paper refers specifically to O2, and theres plenty of sources, as various chemical (and electrochemical , famously liberating O2 from water with electricity) sources.

      Buuuut you'd have known that it was refering to O2 if you read the link instead of mashing post.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      >where would the oxygen come from?
      Photosynthesis. It is also responsible for there being enough oxygen in the atmosphere for you to live in the first place.

    • by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Saturday September 24, 2016 @05:46AM (#52952545)
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      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by OzPeter ( 195038 )

        where would the oxygen come from?

        Please tell me you're kidding. Did you sleep through plant biology in high school?

        -jcr

        You seem to be deaf to that whooshing sound above your head. But, hey .. let's parse it it out anyway.

        In photosynthesis we basically have CO2 + 2H2O + photons => [CH2O] + O2 + H2O

        Do you notice that there is the same number of O's on both sides of the equation? That means that no O was created in the process, which means your derision about the OP is unfounded as photosynthesis does not create O2, it merely frees O2. EG all the O we need and use already exists in the world.

        Thus the OP was correct in st

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by Viol8 ( 599362 )

          The discussion is about the amount of molecular oxygen in the atmosphere you dumb cunt, not the total number of oxygen atoms on the planets. Perhaps your lonely braincell isn't getting enough.

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      • There is a limit to how much plants and algae can survive with existing nutrients, plus we've been killing them. Not to mention some stuff falls to the ground or the ocean bottom, never to return its oxygen again. Not everything rots.I imagine complex life having arisen and expanded even before we were around might have had something to do with it as well. Lots of animals eat plants.

        • There is no shortage of algae, it is overgrowing waterways worldwide. The stuff that falls towards the ocean bottom is often eaten before it even gets there, and there is life in the bottom of the deepest parts of the ocean working to turn the remainder of the waste into life again.

          On the other hand, oceanic algae (which "produces" most of our breathable oxygen) has been driven subsurface by UV, which reduces respiration.

        • Not to mention some stuff falls to the ground or the ocean bottom, never to return its oxygen again.

          Never to be seen again on the human time scale, seen again rather quickly on the Geologic time scale. The oldest Ocean crust we know of is only ~200-400 million years old. Ocean crust both outgasses through cracks in the lithosphere ( including volcanic vents when melting occurs in subduction ), as well as being recycled back into mantle material that can and will eventually erupt again.

    • Re: (Score:1, Informative)

      by bekeleven ( 986320 )

      > Oxygen levels can't go up, where would the oxygen come from?

      "Oxygen levels can't do down, where would the oxygen go?"

      You sound like this.

    • To all the other responders: Whoosh.

      Surely the title alone was a clue that there was implicit /s?

      • Your optimism is fascinating.
    • Water?

  • Change "suck" to "blow".
  • by ooloorie ( 4394035 ) on Saturday September 24, 2016 @06:01AM (#52952583)

    Recent human-induced warming aside, our planet's average temperature had been declining a bit over the past few million years.

    "A bit?" We have been in a continuous ice age for the past few million years [wikipedia.org]. Even the more dire predictions of climate models barely take us back to the already fairly cold temperatures at the beginning of the Pliocene era.

    • And we know lots of carbon has been trapped under the ice, leading to doomsday predictions that it will begin to decay and increase non-human CO2 in the atmosphere as well as CH4, as we melt the tundra.

      • by ooloorie ( 4394035 ) on Saturday September 24, 2016 @08:01AM (#52952831)

        People always make "doomsday predictions" about any change, whether it's the sexual revolution or climate change.

        In reality, the amount of carbon trapped under ice is a small amount compared to other sources, and it would be quickly captured again by the vegetation that would soon grow in those newly temperate areas. So, sorry, no doomsday scenario there, and not even much of a potential for positive feedback.

        • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

          by Anonymous Coward

          A Lot species already met their doomsday [wikipedia.org]. A lot of the late one are mainly due to human activities. We may well fall victim of our own stupidity.

          >it would be quickly captured again by the vegetation that would soon grow

          Nope. You need for that to be significant to re-convert agricultural land to forest (trees are the greatest CO2 trapping plants). And bad luck, those agricultural land are needed to feed peoples.

      • by HiThere ( 15173 )

        In case you haven't noticed, it's starting to happen. So far it's a small effect compared to coal mine fires, but it's there, and increasing.

    • by hey! ( 33014 ) on Saturday September 24, 2016 @09:08AM (#52953053) Homepage Journal

      Which is fine, depending on how fast we get there.

      It's like this: you're standing on the balcony of your Miami hotel room. It's on the top floor. It's a warm summer night and you look down at the pool. A dip would be just the thing, so you put on your bathing suit and take the elevator down to the ground level. Refreshment accomplished.

      Now imagine the same scenario, only you decide to dive off your balcony into the pool. You've traveled exactly the same vertical distance, but the rate at which you did it (well, technically the rate at which you stopped doing it), made a difference.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/1732/

      • Good example. And the relevant analogy here is that anthropogenic climate change is like taking the elevator: it's man-made, and children and adults have all sorts of phobias about it, but it's actually not particularly dangerous. And because of your fears, you want to choose to cower in a corner in your beautiful hotel room and starve to death and force others to do the same.

        See, the thing is that even under the unrealistically pessimistic scenarios of the IPCC, climate change is still slow compared to hum

        • by hey! ( 33014 )

          You should not argue with analogies if you don't understand their limitations.

          • I'm not "arguing" with analogies at all. I'm trying to explain to you simple facts in a way that you might understand, using your own analogy as a starting point. To put this bluntly and without analogies: anthropogenic climate change is not fast enough to cause serious problems; furthermore, if humanity were to institute massive interventions in order to try to avoid it, it would lead to massive poverty and starvation across the world. Your attitudes towards climate change are irrational phobias.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Mr. Munroe recently posted an excellent comic [xkcd.com] about the whole 'ice age' thing. You sound like either an oil shill, or a deliberately misinformed denier. Posting in the hopes that you are the latter.

      Why would you fail to be concerned about the eventual extinction of the human species? This is everyone's responsibility.

  • Air Shield (Score:5, Funny)

    by zifn4b ( 1040588 ) on Saturday September 24, 2016 @06:24AM (#52952629)
    We lost the combination to the air shield? Quick! Someone check their luggage! It might be the same combination.
  • by NoNonAlphaCharsHere ( 2201864 ) on Saturday September 24, 2016 @07:48AM (#52952799)
    That's not climate, that's weather. I'm really sick of these so-called "scientists" pulling this alarmist "research" out of their statist asses to garner yet more of that sweet sweet government giveaway grant money. This isn't "science" -- reproducible results or it didn't happen. Until then, I say we drive it like we stole it.
  • Guess this is what we have to look forward to :)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

  • by Ol Olsoc ( 1175323 ) on Saturday September 24, 2016 @08:58AM (#52953015)
    Well now, there is some fine clickbait! The atmosphere is leaking O2? We better build a Dyson sphere around the planet!

    Or we could just figure that more Oxygen is getting bound up in other compounds. Not a leak, possibly of some concern, but probably not.

    • What compounds do we use that bind atmospheric oxygen, and how do they compare to the scale of oxygen we've released from oxygen-bearing rocks (metal ores)?

      Anyone have a summary of estimated oxygen sources and sinks?

      • I'm looking for the actual paper behind this, because it's evident that the people who cut'n'paste things for Gizmodo don't understand the difference between erosion and weathering.
  • Its being sequestered. We can grow more plants to recover the oxygen.

  • by mark-t ( 151149 ) <markt AT nerdflat DOT com> on Saturday September 24, 2016 @11:28AM (#52953599) Journal
    Because if not, there is no way I can see that "leaked" is the right word.
  • http://i.imgur.com/1kvpLb6.jpg [imgur.com] Scifi seems to always come true
  • If this doesn't do it, you most likely don't have kids yet or never want them. And you somehow think the rest of your life will be free of hard consequences from the environment. The alternative is that you think something more basic will get you such as war or famine.
  • 1. Many, many more people
    2. Many, many more machines that use oxygen in one way or another (ICEs, for instance)
    3. Destruction of natural oxygen generation (i.e., cutting down rainforests)
    4. (speculative) Could thinning of the ozone layer make our atmosphere more permeable to loss?
  • Reduced isotope ratio does not *necessarily* mean that oxygen is "leaking". It could be trapped within compounds on the planet. Just as carbon levels have decreased due to carbon being fixed in other compounds.
  • Many people call the rain forests of the Amazon Basin the lungs of the earth. That hasn't stopped us (human beings) from slashing and burning it mercilessly for decades. If the inherent beauty of system and the species won't motivate us to stop, would preservation of what's left help with some of the environmental existential threats that face us? I'm not sure that the oxygen leakage is really an existential threat but it doesn't sound like an ideal trend, especially when combined with other factors. The ov
  • So they say gas bubbles trapped in frozen H2O had slightly more O2 than outside air?

    Did they also have more H2?

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  • Are here, and scientists don't know why yet!
  • Bring in more oxygen. Plenty of sources to chose from, including: cometary ice, the Oort cloud, satellites of outer planets. Hard to say which is cheapest way to do it, at a fast enough pace. Bezos will probably pick some ways, Musk others.

    Of course, there's that pesky hydrogen attached to it, but there's a solution to that: electrolysis powered by practical controlled fusion.

    This has the advantage of producing helium as waste, which can be used for buoyancy of balloons, blimps, dirigibles, etc. When

  • Over the past 220 million years, the earth has suffered some catastrophes of which I recall two; the end of the Permian and Jurassic Eras. After each, the oxygen level was markedly lower. Back in the Permian days, it was around 36% and the carbon dioxide level was a lot higher, too. Animals and the plants they ate grew huge. The end of the Permian Era was a mega-disaster that wiped out about 99% of the species. The crocodilians and a few others survived; talk about tough! Something happened that caused a l
  • Did anybody check to see if there is a gigantic vacuum cleaner in orbit?
  • Wouldn't that explain it? Or something similar.

    I'm sure not only A) there are plenty of mechanisms whereby oxygen can get trapped and out of the system for a period of time until released again. Odds are it isn't going anywhere but just sequestered somehow for a bit. B) Just like trapped air bubbles may contain more oxygen, I'm sure the opposite is true as well, when upon their release would alter said system.

    On top of that simple error. 0.07 percent *total*, when measuring the scale of "trapped air" bubble

  • Well, it looks as if no-one has bothered to find the actual source, instead of relying on some clickbait advertising site's cut'n'paste.

    Well, that took about 3 minutes. The paper is in Science [sciencemag.org]. If you don't have a subscription, you'll need to try something like Sci-hub [sci-hub.cc].

    Abstract: The history of atmospheric O2 partial pressures (P-O2) is inextricably linked to the coevolution of life and Earthâ(TM)s biogeochemical cycles. Reconstructions of past P-O2 rely on models and proxies but often markedly disag

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