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Seattle Seventh Grader Wins National Math Bee (ap.org) 106

Edward Wan, a Seattle-based seventh grader has won the national math bee. Wan, who studies at Lakeside Middle School, beat 224 other middle school students nationwide to win the 2016 Raytheon Mathcounts National Competition. From an Associated Press report: Competition officials said in a news release the 13-year-old won the final round by answering the question, "What is the remainder when 999,999,999 is divided by 32?" Wan gave the correct answer of 31 In just under seven seconds.Deadspin reports about the live streaming of the event: Today's Mathcounts national championship for middle-school mathletes aired on ESPN3, and it was definitely the best live sports anyone could be watching at 10 a.m. on a Monday morning. We couldn't agree more.
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  • It's not faaaaaaaaaair!

    We need a safe space for kids who can't spell. Other than the comment threads at Salon.com, that is.

    • We need a safe space for kids who can't spell.

      Seattle Seventh Grader Wins National Math Bee

      Please re-read the headline.

      • Or at least read the summary(RTFS?). When you get to the 999,999,999/13 part it's kind of hard to continue thinking it's a spelling bee.
        • Re:Asian privilege (Score:5, Interesting)

          by ShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @01:14PM (#52084939)

          When you get to the 999,999,999/13 part ...

          It is 999,999,999/32. The 13 is his age. The problem is not so hard. 1,000,000,000 is 10^9 = 2^9*5^9, and 32=2^5, so obviously 1,000,000,000 is evenly divisible by 32, so one less is going to have a remainder of 31. Duh.

          I don't know much about the Math Bee, but I coach kids for the Math Olympiad, and we do a lot of drills to break numbers down into prime factors, and rapidly compute powers of two. Solving a problem like this in seven seconds is impressive, but not uncommon for a kid that has been trained.

    • We have that.

      It's called Twitter.

    • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

      by dywolf ( 2673597 )

      You think you're being funny.
      All you're really being is racist.
      Or at least making a racist joke.
      And you don't even comprehend how or why it is.

      • You think you're being funny.
        All you're really being is racist.

        The funny thing is that he isn't even a competent racist. He has his stereotypes all mixed up: Indians win spelling bees (10 of the last 14), Chinese win math competitions. Since Edward is Chinese, it was silly to think this was a spelling bee.

  • Today's Mathcounts national championship for middle-school mathletes aired on ESPN3, and it was definitely the best live sports anyone could be watching at 10 a.m. on a Monday morning.

    Must have been a slow day for sports. Given that there's international sports, you should probably be able to find something interesting to watch at any time of the day. Maybe the Giro D'Italia shouldn't have had a rest day.

    • Wow, a European cycling race that is NOT the Tour de France got a random mention in a /. comment.

      My life is complete.

      PS: The Giro can often be much more entertaining than the TdF.

  • Arithmetic. Americans seem unable to tell the difference (no pun intended).

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Well since Arithmetic is a subset of Math, they were in fact practicing Math.

      Pedantry is usually unnecessary when discussing a middle school event, unless you're trying to shoehorn in an "Americans suck" joke.

    • Arithmetic. Americans seem unable to tell the difference

      Nope. Three problems:

      (1) Arithmetic is a PART of mathematics.

      (2) Even if you want to insist it's not, the Mathcounts competition includes all sorts of stuff including basic geometry, basic algebra, probability, combinatorics, basic number theory, etc. NOT just arithmetic.

      (3) If you think this kid solved that problem by basic "arithmetic" like division in 7 seconds, you're crazy. It requires an understanding of basic divisibility theory (i.e., part of number theory) to see certain patterns. For exa

      • By the way, of course there are other simple ways of solving the problem (e.g., recognizing that 10^n is automatically divisible by 2^n, since 32=2^5, then any power of 10 greater than 10^5 is automatically divisible by 32) -- I was just referencing the general divisibility rules that I know kids in the Mathcounts stuff are usually taught.
    • That's why the the kid won a Maths B. Those who win real maths competitions tend to get As.
    • Arithmetic. Americans seem unable to tell the difference (no pun intended).

      You must be American.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    "What is 10^10-1 mod 32?"
    We start by checking if we can divide 1^10 by 2, five times (as 2^5=32) : 5x10^5, 2.5x10^5, 1.25x10^5, 6.25x10^4 and 3.125x10^4. The answer is yes, thus 10^10 mod 32 = 0, and 10^10-1 mod 32 = 31.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      It's even easier than that. You can divide by 2^n evenly if something is a multiple of 10^n. Since n=5, 10^9 can be divided by 32 evenly, leaving you with a remainder of 31 when you subtract 1. Memorize enough simple rules and you can solve problems based around simple rules in mere seconds.

  • Quick kid (Score:5, Informative)

    by TheEmptySet ( 1060334 ) on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @12:08PM (#52084297)
    Maths is about understanding something the right way. And I'm guessing this kid did not take the seven seconds to do anything complicated. He just factored 32. i.e. 2^5. Then noticed that 999,999,999 + 1 = 1,000,000,000 = 10^10 = 2^10 * 5*10 which clearly contains a factor of 2^5. So 32 goes into 1,000,000,000. So the remainder after division of 999,999,999 by 32 is 31. I think you need about 2 seconds for that once you realise the correct way to think about it. So he took 5 seconds to work out what he should do. Quick kid!
    • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

      I believe its even easier than that, if you know the divisibility rules to determine divisibility quickly.
      and these math whiz's probably learn almost all of them.

      among them is "any multiple of 100k (so that it ends with x00,000) is divisible by 32".
      therefore 1B is divisible by 32.
      so 1 less should have a remainder of 31.

    • Now, quick, what is the remainder of 999,999,999 divided by 31?

  • by Anonymous Coward

    My son competed in MathCounts as an 8th grader a number of years ago. Made it to the nationals in Texas, where he finished in the middle of the pack.

    I went there with him, and even though I was just a parent (with an MS in math), I took it upon myself to assist the guy coaching our state's team. For two days, Coach and I escorted those four intelligent, lively, funny young people (one girl, three boys) to a barbecue, a science museum, and I forget where all else. The other kids' parents stayed at the hot

  • by Locke2005 ( 849178 ) on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @12:08PM (#52084303)
    Hey, great way to dispel those stereotypes, Wan!!! Keep it up!
  • It's not a sport. It's a competition. Sports by definition require an element of physical exertion.
    • You tell my boss that his beloved golf is no real sport.

    • by tsqr ( 808554 )

      It's not a sport. It's a competition. Sports by definition require an element of physical exertion.

      Areyou trying to make sport of him?

    • by mi ( 197448 )

      Sports by definition require an element of physical exertion.

      Chess (and checkers, even if only 10x10) are generally regarded as sport [olympic.org]. Even poker might be [go.com]...

      Brain is part of the body and exerting it more often makes you a good sport... So to speak...

  • by sconeu ( 64226 ) on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @12:23PM (#52084437) Homepage Journal

    10^n is evenly divisible by 2^n

    Therefore 999,999,999 = 10^9-1. Therefore the remainder is -1 mod 32 which = 31.

  • by mi ( 197448 )

    Though TFA talks about a national competition, last year the American team has won the international Math Olympiad [npr.org]. For the first time in 21 years too.

    Maybe, Bush's hated ideas of accountability [ed.gov] for schools and teachers weren't entirely bad? Neah, can't be...

    • by Jiro ( 131519 )

      That winning team includes three Asian names, and a head coach and assistant coach each with an Asian name. I don't think that the team is winning because educational standards went up.

      • by mi ( 197448 )

        That winning team includes three Asian names, and a head coach and assistant coach each with an Asian name.

        That such a coach became a teacher and got into this position — despite the lingering [usatoday.com] anti-Asian bigotry [asian-nation.org] — may itself be thanks to increases in accountability... School-principals and fellow teachers may still dislike them, but have to weight that dislike against their school quantifiably falling behind in Math.

        Same may be true about the pupils themselves. They are still bullied [nydailynews.com], but, mayb

    • by hawkfish ( 8978 )

      Lakeside is the most expensive/exclusive private school in Seattle. Notable alumni include Bill Gates and Paul Allen (Gates was wealthy before Microsoft - his father is a prominent local attorney.)

      So this story has exactly zero to do with Bush's education initiatives.

  • It should take less than 7 seconds to realize that 32 divides 1 billion evenly, so the answer is -1 mod 32. (Not the crappy truncate towards zero C kind of mod).

  • How about we collect all of these "Math/Arithmetic whiz kids" into a "Collective Intelligence" machine and predict some important stuff?

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