Chipotle Plans To DNA Test Produce After E-Coli Outbreaks In Nine States 147
HughPickens.com writes: Lisa Jenning reports at Restaurant News that Chipotle plans to do DNA-based tests of all fresh produce before it is shipped to restaurants. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that the E. coli outbreak linked to Chipotle now includes seven more people in three new states, including Illinois, Maryland and Pennsylvania, for a total count of 52 sickened in nine states. Most of the illnesses were in Washington, with 27 cases, and Oregon, with 13 cases. Twenty people have been hospitalized but there have been no reported deaths. Health officials say a meal or ingredient from Chipotle was likely the cause, but they have not yet identified the specific source of the outbreak. Chipotle's founder and co-chief executive, Steve Ells apologized to patrons who fell ill after eating at the company's restaurants. "This was a very unfortunate incident and I'm deeply sorry that this happened, but the procedures we're putting in place today are so above industry norms that we are going to be the safest place to eat." The chain will begin end-of-shelf-life testing to ensure quality specifications are met throughout the shelf life of products. The data collected will be used to measure the performance of vendors and suppliers to enhance food safety throughout the system.
But food safety experts are mixed about the effectiveness of such screening efforts for the prevention of foodborne illness. Bob Whitaker, chief science and technology officer for the Produce Marketing Association, says such tests are not practical as a screening tool. Instead, restaurant chains should focus on whether their suppliers have adequate food-safety programs in place. "You can't test your way to safety," says Whitaker. "The problem with product testing by itself is that it's hard to take enough samples to be confident that the product is free of any pathogens." DNA tests are considered among the most accurate and fast, with same-day testing available for organisms like E. coli or salmonella, says Morgan Wallace. Some manufacturers don't wait for results, since produce is perishable, but that introduces the risk of a produce recall if a pathogen has been identified after shipment. Others hold the product until test results are confirmed, but that practice adds holding costs and reduces the shelf life.
But food safety experts are mixed about the effectiveness of such screening efforts for the prevention of foodborne illness. Bob Whitaker, chief science and technology officer for the Produce Marketing Association, says such tests are not practical as a screening tool. Instead, restaurant chains should focus on whether their suppliers have adequate food-safety programs in place. "You can't test your way to safety," says Whitaker. "The problem with product testing by itself is that it's hard to take enough samples to be confident that the product is free of any pathogens." DNA tests are considered among the most accurate and fast, with same-day testing available for organisms like E. coli or salmonella, says Morgan Wallace. Some manufacturers don't wait for results, since produce is perishable, but that introduces the risk of a produce recall if a pathogen has been identified after shipment. Others hold the product until test results are confirmed, but that practice adds holding costs and reduces the shelf life.
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That doesn't help when it's the lettuce or some other serve-cold produce.
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BMO
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Very true, and furthermore, short of hand-washing each leaf, there's no way they can guarantee against e. coli.
This all started because they wanted to appeal to the food religion by going organic, which means growing vegetables, literally, in cow shit. Synthetic fertilizer doesn't have this problem. It's not at all a coincidence that they had ZERO problems before that switch.
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Even washing each leaf with bleach won't actually work. E. coli can easily get INTO the leaf in spinach, and that has happened. I remember a massive spinach recall a few years ago with e. coli being INSIDE the spinach leaves themselves. I don't see why lettuce would be any different. I absolutely refuse to eat organic salad for this reason.
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E. coli can easily get INTO the leaf in spinach, and that has happened. I remember a massive spinach recall a few years ago with e. coli being INSIDE the spinach leaves themselves. I don't see why lettuce would be any different. I absolutely refuse to eat organic salad for this reason.
You do realize that the way the E.Coli gets into the plants in the first place is via animals shitting on the produce, right? The only produce immune to this problem is grown indoors. In addition, crops grown organically are not the only crops fertilized with animal waste. Add to that the facts that manure is not used in all organic farming, and that no disease outbreak has been traced back to manure used on an organic farm [thefanningmill.com] and you will see that your policy is laughably superstitious.
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Almost any "organic" produce you can buy on the scale of a restaurant isn't really being raised by organic methods.
For example
Free range chickens wander about over acres of grasslands eating bugs. Like wild caught salmon, eggs from these chickens are bright orange.
Meanwhile, "organic" and "free range" eggs in grocery stores and restaurants come from hens who literally qualify for the "free range" label by having access to a plant free, bug free muddy fenced plot next to the roosting area. In at least one
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Free range chickens wander about over acres of grasslands eating bugs. Like wild caught salmon, eggs from these chickens are bright orange.
No, that just indicates what the chicken was fed, not whether it was allowed to walk around. Feeding them marigold flowers are enough to yield bright colored eggs, even if they were held in a feeder cage their whole life. Though some people claim the darker yolk is healthier. Personally I can't tell the difference in taste. Anyways, what the chicken is fed will obviously change the egg color and nutritional content, but that doesn't mean free range either tastes better or is healthier.
Organic food practices produce measurably better food (lower cholesteral, higher vitamins, lower saturated acids) with measurably lower results (50,000 survey in Britain showed lower weight and 9% lower lymphoma risk).
Hmm...While I haven't
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See the studies on this page for measured differences between the types of eggs.
http://www.motherearthnews.com... [motherearthnews.com]
The risk of organic spinich is about the same as conventional spinach
"But Francisco Diez-Gonzalez, a professor of food safety microbiology at the University of Minnesota's department of food science and nutrition, disagrees. In 2006, he published a study comparing E. coli contamination in organic and conventional produce. He concluded that the presence of E. coli seemed to depend more on the type
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See the studies on this page for measured differences between the types of eggs.
http://www.motherearthnews.com... [motherearthnews.com]
What a spammy, biased site. First of all, just about everything on that site falls afoul of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Second of all, they don't have any kind of whitepaper or anything, just some unsubstantiated claims. Show me some peer reviewed evidence, with a clearly drawn cause and effect. Third of all, I've seen sites like this all the time, e.g. naturalnews.com, mercola.com, etc. They make these stupid wild claims with no scientific evidence and use "because it's natural" as their proof. (They also seem to attract a lot of conspiracy theorist types, electromagnetic hypersensitivity believers, anti-vaxers, etc, but that's another topic.)
The risk of organic spinich is about the same as conventional spinach
"But Francisco Diez-Gonzalez, a professor of food safety microbiology at the University of Minnesota's department of food science and nutrition, disagrees. In 2006, he published a study comparing E. coli contamination in organic and conventional produce. He concluded that the presence of E. coli seemed to depend more on the type of produce than whether it had been grown conventionally or organically.
"At this timeâ¦there is no sufficient evidence either epidemiological or scientific, to support the idea that organic produce is most likely to carry foodborne pathogenic bacteria," wrote Diez-Gonzalez in an email. ....
Oh look, another spammy "natural is better" site! You pulled this straight from organicconsumers.org, no way that's biased! At least we have some scientific investigation going this time, which is an improvement over your previous "becuz mother earth sez!" article.
Well guess what, here's a less biased site, and it sheds a better light on the issue, specifically mentioning Professor Francisco Diez-Gonzalez:
A new study on food safety reveals that organic produce may contain a significantly higher risk of fecal contamination than conventionally grown produce.
A recent comparative analysis of organic produce versus conventional produce from the University of Minnesota shows that the organically grown produce had 9.7 percent positive samples for the presence of generic E. coli bacteria versus only 1.6 percent for conventional produce on farms in Minnesota.
The study, which was published in May in the Journal of Food Protection, concluded, "the observation that the prevalence of E. coli was significantly higher in organic produce supports the idea that organic produce is more susceptible to fecal contamination."
In addition, the study found the food-borne disease pathogen salmonella only on the organic produce samples. There was no evidence found of the deadly strain of bacteria, E. coli O157:H7, in either type of produce tested. The study looked at fruits and vegetables at the "preharvest" stage, not at the retail store level.
The principle investigator of the University of Minnesota study, Francisco Diez-Gonzalez, told CNSNews.com that "organic agriculture was more susceptible to carry fecal indicators."
"In many ways it is confirming what is believed, indeed, if you are using animal manure for fertilizer, the chances that you are going to get fecal bacteria on the product are greater," Diez-Gonzalez said.
Now granted, he goes on later to contradict himself somewhat, but if you read further on, a few more experts chime in and confirm everything mentioned above.
Alex Avery, director of research and education at the free-market Hudson Institute's Center for Global Food Issues, says the latest scientific study confirms years of research that organic produce may pose a higher risk for food-borne i
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That's actually not a bad idea, but I'm pretty sure they can't label something as organic if it has been irradiated.
I would have to research that to be sure, but in general, when it comes to organic, technology is frozen in the 1950's, because according to organic dogma, technology = bad, because you know, it's not "natural", even though there's no scientific evidence that "natural" is better.
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That doesn't help when it's the lettuce or some other serve-cold produce.
Perhaps they could just wash the produce before serving it? It's a simple courtesy I extend to guests I don't feel like killing.
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Maybe you missed the part about the e coli being inside the leaf and not being able to be washed off.
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If they actually cooked the food properly instead of leaving it luke-warm, this wouldn't be a problem.
This has nothing to do with cooking. This is raw produce picked by farmworkers that didn't wash their hands after taking a dump. The solution is better field sanitation and better enforcement. The farmworkers need to have clean toilets, and they need to wash their hands in chlorinated water, and that hand washing needs to be mandatory and observed, with penalties for violations.
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My guess is that it's just a lack of education on the part of the immigrant labor that's picking the produce. Tell them it's a health risk and make sure that they have something to wash their hands and that will probably go a long way to solve the problem.
Also, a lot of this type of work is being done by people who aren't here legally. If you think a solution with mandatory hand washing observation is going to work, I don't think you've thought this through all that well
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My guess is that it's just a lack of education on the part of the immigrant labor that's picking the produce.
Nope, this is why:
http://www.science20.com/scien... [science20.com]
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Sure you can. It's called Night Soil.
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You carry Escheria Coli as well, just not so much near the intake of your food; much more where it comes out. Getting it (and even then: certain varieties that we're not certain of) near the intake of your food (i.e. in your stomach) is where it wreaks havoc.
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More likely the usage of liquid manure from cows or pigs as fertilizer.
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More likely the usage of liquid manure from cows or pigs as fertilizer.
No. Farmers may spread cow/pig poop on a cornfield, but they do not, and cannot legally, spread fresh manure on produce that is eaten raw. They can use manure that is thoroughly composted, but by then the e-coli is long gone.
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Depends on the time till it is harvested or not? Sounds not logical that it is "illegal" but well the US has lots of strange things that are legal or illegal.
In Germany it is completely normal to put manure on the fields, any field. However not shortly before harvesting (where it makes no sense anyway).
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Shitpotle
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No, that's not it at all. It's organic farming. E. coli outbreaks are NOT AT ALL uncommon. Notice how they never had this problem prior to switching to organic?
http://www.science20.com/scien... [science20.com]
Not only is organic food NOT beneficial from either a taste or health perspective, it's actually scientifically shown to be worse due to exactly this issue. Furthermore, it's bad from an environmental perspective because it requires more farmland, which means more water consumption and more deforestation where applica
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Very science-y! And Chipotle didn't switch to organic. And GMOs aren't being made with "anti-e.coli" genes.
But reading a crank rant about the chemicals in brewed coffee really nails to point home.
Have a nice day...
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Not only is organic food NOT beneficial from either a taste or health perspective, it's actually scientifically shown to be worse due to exactly this issue.
The local produce I buy or grow myself is fresh from the ground and tastes a hell of a lot better that what you'll find in a big box grocery store. Wash anything you eat raw, it's common sense.
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The local produce I buy or grow myself is fresh from the ground and tastes a hell of a lot better that what you'll find in a big box grocery store.
People say things like this all the time, but it never passes a blind taste test.
It's pricing, mislabeling and pesticides... (Score:2)
Grocery stores buy at lowest price and sell at what market will bear.
They are usually buying from large chain suppliers who in turn often import.
They too look to buy low and sell high. And they also buy from producers and suppliers who do the same.
And if ANY link in the supply chain mislabels their produce in order to get a better price...
The other thing is... all that food being shipped and left sitting there in the store for days means pest control.
Or roaches and rats munching on your produce.
And that mea
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Send them to a farmers market and they'll happily buy and eat pesticide sprayed and GMO produce thinking it's "organic" - cause farmers know what "time to harvest" is for and cause their produce is FRESH.
There is an episode of Penn and Teller where they did exactly that, (AND at a farmer's market, with you know, you're vaunted "fresh" food) with a blind test, and they asked people who believed in the whole "organic tastes better" to try two different foods and ask which tasted better. 7 out of 10 of them identified the conventional farmed food as tasting better. Granted it's a small sample so not very scientific, but the show is intended to entertain. Still, it reflects similar scientific tests that have re
Not religion. (Score:2)
A fallacy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Fresher tastes better. When you buy veggies from the store, it's typically well after they've been picked or whatever. Stuff out of your garden is nice and fresh, and tastes better.
I often buy organic produce because it tastes better. I suspect that what's going on is that the organic stuff spends less time sitting around before I eat it. I really, really doubt that one artificial method like organic produces better taste and healthiness than another artificial method.
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Fresher tastes better. When you buy veggies from the store, it's typically well after they've been picked or whatever. Stuff out of your garden is nice and fresh, and tastes better.
That will depend on how good of a gardener you are and whether or not the place you live in has both the optimal weather and soil conditions for whatever it is you're trying to grow.
I often buy organic produce because it tastes better. I suspect that what's going on is that the organic stuff spends less time sitting around before I eat it.
That's typically not the case. Most organic food comes from large companies like ConAgra, and will be shipped around quite a bit. In addition, organic actually has a slight disadvantage here because you have to rely almost entirely on packaging in order to preserve it.
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The soil is good, and I'm a terrible gardener.
For whatever reason, some (not all) of the organic produce at the grocery store tastes significantly better than the non-organic. I don't taste much if any difference in the carrots, but the celery is significantly different. I suspect that the organic celery is fresher than the organic carrots. The practice of growing tomatoes in an artificial environment and getting them to the store with the vine on improved the taste dramatically.
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Note that I made the uncontroversial statement that produce picked fresh from my garden tastes better than produce that has been sitting around for weeks in a big box grocery store. Also note that there are two opposing opinions to this view. Perhaps I should not trust my own sensory input and substitute the view of random posters on Slashdot as my truth.
Not bloody likely, Trolls.
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Not only is organic food NOT beneficial from either a taste or health perspective, it's actually scientifically shown to be worse due to exactly this issue.
[citation needed [thefanningmill.com]]
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Organic food is not inherently superior from a taste or health perspective. However, small-scale farming inherently better lends itself to producing tasty, healthy food, because there is less pressure to produce inferior varietals designed for shelf-readiness, and most organic farming is done on a smaller scale. Large-scale organic farming is only inherently less harmful to the environment; still desirable, but you won't see the results in your supermarket.
Furthermore, it's bad from an environmental perspective because it requires more farmland,
No. What requires more farmland i
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If they actually cooked the food properly instead of leaving it luke-warm, this wouldn't be a problem.
This has nothing to do with cooking. This is raw produce picked by farmworkers that didn't wash their hands after taking a dump.
Can't it be from, say, bird poop dropping onto the produce while it's in the field as well / instead?
In fact, that seems more likely to me - if that's a possible vector.
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Interesting idea (Score:2)
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Score: -5, too much information.
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If poopreport was still around, I'd beg you to write that story up. Hell, I'm begging you now. Add some fluffy descriptors, a few juicy details, describe the meal that caused it, and little of the aftermath. It'd be great. Reply with a link to a blogpost or something, please.
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Geez, that sounds more like you were possessed by Satan than food-borne illness.
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Geez, that sounds more like you were possessed by Satan than food-borne illness.
I got food poisoning at a beer&bbq festival this last season and spend the next six hours vomiting violently. There was an hour or two in a park, vomiting under a plant. Then two hours' ride home in the back of the van, desperately clutching a bucket and occasionally moaning in pain. Then another three hours spent with the toilet. It was literally one of the worst experiences of my life. I didn't wish I would die, but a coma would have been welcome. Breaking my finger was more fun.
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You got off lightly, Food poisoning caused me to be ill/puking for 4+ weeks with potential long term effects.
Re:Interesting idea (Score:5, Informative)
Botulism? When you're shitting bile and blood, projectile shitting at times, it's pretty rough. They have a treatment for it, I've undergone it, where they basically increase your immunity by feeding you small amounts of botulism on crackers. It's a strange process but once you've had botulism then you'll be more susceptible to it in the future. The treatment was fairly new when I went through it (it was my second bout with it) and they're able to build the resistance back up over time with the smaller doses.
In an earlier post, I mentioned that I'd spare the details of botulism for those who have never had it. I still will as not even *I* have words enough to describe it. Unless things have changed, the leading cause of death (and botulism is *very* deadly - even in intensive care units) is because of the stress from evacuating your alimentary canal causes your heart to rupture. Yes, you puke (even without anything coming out) or shit (again, with nothing except maybe some intestinal wall tissue, white milky liquid, and yellow bile forced from your system coming out) so forcefully that your heart explodes.
So, that - the above description - *is* sparing them the details. You will be months, years even, getting to the point where you're well again and you may never be fully well again. I can now eat honey and chicken again and I'm usually only worried about the chicken and I tend to avoid it unless I am damned sure of the cooking process. I consume a little honey every day (that I remember) in order to help keep my resistance up. Do *not* give young children honey!
There are other sources for botulism but those are the two primary sources. The effects of botulism are beyond my ability to type. There are few things on this planet that are truly worse than death, botulism is one of them. Botulism doesn't mean you were ill and threw up a little after dinner. Botulism means you nearly died.
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Wait until you get botulism. No, not the food poisoning that you're sick from for a half a day but the kind where you spend days (or weeks) in the hospital and it takes six or more months to feel well again. I'll spare you the details but, if you want, you can count yourself lucky as it could have been much, much worse.
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No, Republicans are working to weaponize Chipotle vegetables to use against ISIS.
MOD PARENT UP (Score:2)
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I know it isn't considered acceptable to mock republicans here on slashdot ...
Why not? Even republicans are shaking their collective heads over their presidential candidates. Trump (and to a lesser extend Carson) are like untreated venereal diseases - the "gift" that keeps on giving.
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I know it isn't considered acceptable to mock republicans here on slashdot ...
Why not?
Because republicans are in the numeric majority here on slashdot, and they have almost no sense of humor.
If you doubt me, try this. First, make a joke about JFK or Bill Clinton and infidelity; see how many democrats laugh. Then make a joke about Reagan having had no idea what was going on since 1985, and see that not a single republican laughs.
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Or maybe that just means that sex is a better topic to joke about than Alzheimer's disease?
Of course, most slashdotters don't have any experience with either *rim shot*! Thank you, I'll be here all week.
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I doubt republicans are the majority on slashdot - just that they tend to make more noise.
Slashdot certainly treats the republicans as the majority here, based on how often front-page stories cater to them and how often ads on the website cater to their causes. I agree that they undoubtedly make more noise than any other political faction. I would think that if slashdot was so woefully inaccurately estimating their audience there would have been some blowback by now... if there is any group that outnumbers the republicans here I would say it could only be the unconcerned unaffiliated. The d
Sounds like buzzword marketing. (Score:2)
Can someone please explain how genetic status relates to a bacterial contamination? WTF?
Re:Sounds like buzzword marketing. (Score:5, Informative)
They take a sample, extract all of the DNA, analyze it for sequences that are only found in pathogens, reject any lots of produce that carry pathogen sequences. The USDA requires a similar test on meat products like hamburger. The world needs a lot less wtf and more scientific literacy.
Re:Sounds like buzzword marketing. (Score:5, Insightful)
The truly effective method would include not only banning lots that carry it, but publicly identifying the source, and after a couple such lots, dropping that supplier permanently (and announcing it). Once supplying infected stock becomes a business-ending practice, suppliers will become a lot more careful themselves, which is what is truly needed here.
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This wouldn't even be an issue if not for our methods of food handling. We process foods in massive batches which lend themselves to cross-contamination. Chipotle is just one of the zillions of "restaurants" which exemplify this mass shoveling approach to food.
What is needed is more local production, this is especially possible with greens because they are easy to produce hydroponically in "vertical gardens".
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Ok, so, what happens if their one sample is taken 5 mm from where the bacteria in question is?
You do understand that such bacteria are not a continuous coating over all surfaces of the food, right?
This is just companies learning from your wonderful government.
People have accepted security theater, this is just health safety theater. Impress people with advanced sounding
technology (DNA testing! yes, really, they will use that well known library of evil bacteria DNA library.. oh wait, that doesnt exist).
Wont
Will this help with norovirus? (Score:2)
What if any will this do to prevent a recurrence of the norovirus illness that sickened 141 Boston College students [cnbc.com] who ate at Chipotle?
I doubt it (Score:2)
Steve Ells has apologized for the illness. So what. Steve, you can stuff your sorrys in a sack!
Food Irradiation (Score:4, Informative)
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Mod partent up!
Re:Food Irradiation (Score:5, Informative)
Depends on what you call it. No one bats an eye about "cellulose" as a "non-nutritive filler" (a.k.a. sawdust), so if you have the right name, irradiated foods should also be accepted.
How about something like, "Photon Pasteurized"
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Alpha/Beta Particle Washed?
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Sand... Yummy.
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It's an anti-caking agent used in many spices. They probably aren't adding it to the meat directly, but as part of some pre-mixed dry spice package. It's absolutely harmless and inert, and even marketed for home use:
https://www.americanspice.com/... [americanspice.com]
Sam
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Gamma-enhanced?
Won't help as long as the stores aren't up to code (Score:2)
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Having worked in a restaurant, I can tell you those places must have been doing some nightmarish shit. The company I work for has only been shut down once (years ago) because mouse turds were found on a slicer, not in use, which is pretty damn egregious if you ask me, but not as serious as people would expect. That manager and employee were both fired. Anything less just gets you yelled at and, maybe, if it's really bad, you'll have to throw away some product. We were once forced to throw out an entire cool
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That's the exception though. The rule is a good talking to. Having said that, restaurants are usually scared shitless of the health department, and generally keep things safe.
Eh. Tons of restaurants don't. I've got food poisoning a ton after going out. And I've heard all the scare stories. We've got a sports bar here in Kelseyville where one of my friends worked for a moment, and they are horrible about food handling and break every rule. They're still open years later.
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Food poisoning can kill people.
Amateur night at supply chain management school (Score:2)
It's amateur night at supply chain management school.
Please, don't insult us. Chipotle management screwed up in their abortive quest to use the Chipotle chain to finance their big dreams of creating a gourmet restaurant chain.
They never intended to keep the Chipotle brand around after they achieved their dream, but it never happened, and now we have lots of people with puke bugs.
Details here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Call me paranoid but this was industrial espionage (Score:2)
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Really? I mean, yeah, really? Do you have *any* evidence to support that claim or is just just a presumption because "it's obvious if you look at it right?" 'Cause I'm thinking you're a bit crazy. Big Agriculture, such as it exists, isn't going to (probably) go out and intentionally poison a bunch of people when they can sell organic foods at a much higher profit percentage. They're not going to risk that kind of fallout should they be discovered. There's no darkened walnut-lined room with a giant oaken tab
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The moon landings were faked too. If you have a powerful enough telescope you can actually look at where they supposedly landed on the moon and left the rover and LEM. But you know what those placed look like - an abandoned sound stage. You take a photograph of the moon at high enough resolution and you can see the remains of a camera and lightning boom. Not the LEM or rover - the debris is the wrong shape. It exactly matches the lighting equipment used in the 60s on TV sets. Filmed. Right there. Fake as ca
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I must confess... I've looked at the moon through a high-powered telescope (there's an observatory at Kents Hill) and I did not see any evidence of the moon landings! I've seen the lack of evidence with my own eyes! They must be faked!
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Yeah. The reason they ended the Apollo program was a contract dispute about the planet, about 300 light-years away, that we were using to stage the moon landings.
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You link to something not even remotely related and then parrot a pithy saying at the end that also has no bearing on the conversation at hand. Insanity isn't curable, that we know of, but there's help available. Yes, Monsanto has done some evil things. Yes, they're probably still doing evil things. No, they're not intentionally poisoning a supply line for a restaurant.
The quizzical thing is that you seem to think that I've some moral outrage or righteous indignation. No, that would apply to the GGP post wh
Chipotle has idiots in charge. (Score:2)
All you need to do is a standard Gram test. less than $0.08 cost per test and can be done in their own lab easily
What the fuck is wrong with these executives? full blown DNA test? why don't they also perform a full gas chromatograph as well?
Reminded me of this: (Score:1)
http://www.stilldrinking.org/c... [stilldrinking.org]
( Amusing blog. Another good one is this:
http://www.stilldrinking.org/p... [stilldrinking.org] )
Proves my point (Score:1)
For years I vetoed Chipotle when my friends wanted to go there. It is utter, bland, mediocrity -- the Olive Garden of casual Mexican, if you will. Far, far too much of day-to-day operations is left to employees, if you're lucky they will be older Latina women who put out so-so food... if you're not, it'll be teenagers giving you lettuce stems and dehydrated (but responsibly sourced!) Chicken.
IMO foodborne pathogen outbreaks take a fair amount of carelessness - either in the way the item is sourced or the
Chipotle: If SJW's ran a restaurant (Score:2)
The food's trendy, but it's toxic on contact.
(Laughing at mods that blew their modpoints on the first round)
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Except that it's not a mere case of throwing out vegetables. It's a case of causing heavy losses to people and affecting the livelihoods of many people in the 'food chain' here - those who work in the farms involved, those who work in the stores, those who work in the restaurants, et al. A whole lot of people who don't get paid, or risk losing their jobs when something like this happens.
But congratulations on the shrill bleeding-heart reaction to anything that suggests that Muslims are anything but i