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Soylent 2.0 Comes Bottled and Ready To Drink 397

An anonymous reader writes: Soylent has announced today their latest product, Soylent 2.0. It comes premixed and ready to drink in recyclable bottles. Each bottle is one fifth of a scientifically balanced daily meal plan, will last up to a year unrefrigerated, and will cost you $2.42. A Soylent blog post reads in part: "Not only are its ingredients vegan, Soylent 2.0 reaches an unprecedented level of environmental sustainability with half of its fat energy coming from farm-free, algae sources. This next generation agricultural technology has the potential to reduce the ecological impact of food production by orders of magnitude, signifying a major step towards a future of abundance, a world where optimal nutrition is the new normal."
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Soylent 2.0 Comes Bottled and Ready To Drink

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  • Oblicatory (Score:5, Funny)

    by mitcheli ( 894743 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @01:37PM (#50242083)
    I'm waiting for their Green formula.
  • by bistromath007 ( 1253428 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @01:41PM (#50242125)
    Congratulations, soylent, on perfecting your middle class hipster chow. Wake me when a month's supply of your gross bullshit doesn't cost half again as much as my SNAP benefits.
    • by Isarian ( 929683 )

      There are a lot of complaints and replies to the announcements regarding pricing. Not only regarding the price hike of pre-mixed Soylent vs the powder, but regarding the fact that the base powdered form is going up in price a fair bit (especially because the subscription benefit for those who buy by the month is decreasing).

      • *rolleyes*

        I remember looking into this stuff a while ago. It was already too expensive for what it was when it was only powder, and since you can only get it online anyway, it's always been unavailable to people who could genuinely benefit from something like it.

        Part of their hype... Er, stated goals, is to change the way the world thinks about food supply, reduce environmental impact, and improve the affordability of nutrition. But their crap is only cheap if you customarily go to Starbucks every morni
        • by Isarian ( 929683 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @02:01PM (#50242339)

          I wouldn't shove them into the same category as Tesla myself. Soylent's hype was about taking something existing (liquid food) and retooling it for the masses (basically liquid food but with a different nutrient balance for the non-bedridden). If they had met their promise and actually produced a product that would reduce food costs for the masses and be accessible to the general public on basic food benefits it would have been great, but hey, like you said - hype.

          Tesla/SpaceX on the other hand are developing revolutionary technologies that didn't exist previously and building a massive electric vehicle infrastructure available to all EVs as well as opening up their tech to the competition. If they tip the automotive balance over to EVs and help to produce a market of affordable electric vehicles they'll have surmounted a significant environmental and social hurdle to the benefit of the entire planet.

      • So, the important part.

        What exactly does this stuff TASTE like?

    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 03, 2015 @01:48PM (#50242191)

      Your steadfast determination to show everyone how unimpressed you are shows you're more of a hipster than you'll ever accuse anyone of being.

      • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

        by Anonymous Coward

        In this case, he's got a fair complaint. The original concept of THIS soylent was to make a cheap food to get poor people their nutrients (especially those out in "food deserts").

        • by jedidiah ( 1196 )

          Ironically, something that looks like a cracker would probably be a much better option. That's a much more portable approach that doesn't require extra resources when eating in the field. Armies have even used this sort of concept for their field rations.

          Something that requires mixing assumes infastructure and resources that may not exist.

          Plus everyone knows that real Soylent looks like crackers...

      • He just sounds like a reasonable guy to me.

    • ... your middle class hipster chow. ...doesn't cost half again as much as my SNAP benefits.

      Well, if you got off your food stamps, maybe you could become middle class and afford it too.

      (BTW, I think it's overpriced too, but have still been vaguely interested in trying it. I wish there were a low(er) cal version though. I *know* that's not the point, but a version that provided all of the nutrition necessary but was ALSO low(er) calorie, could be a way to skip some meals..)

  • by TWX ( 665546 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @01:43PM (#50242137)
    It's a single-celled protein combined with synthetic aminos, vitamins, and minerals. Everything the body needs.
  • by Selur ( 2745445 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @01:43PM (#50242143)

    "Each bottle is one fifth of a scientifically balanced daily meal plan, "
    $2.42 per 400-calorie bottle so $12.08 a day,... cooking my self I can manage a (I hope) tastier alternative for less,...

    Sorry, but I really don't get why this is interesting at all, for a short moment I thought: "Okay, may be for long term 'food' storage, then I read '"However, we counter that by the fact that the drink does not require refrigeration and also does not spoil until at least one year."

    => What is the gain in using this?

    • by TWX ( 665546 )
      I can only think of specific applications when this might be worthwhile, like where one has to remain mobile for some time and carry one's supplies in an area with very little water available, but that's a pretty unusual set of circumstances. You almost have to be a refugee or a forward-deployed soldier to involuntarily enter those conditions, and only militaries would have the supply capability to afford to intermittently replenish stock at that price.
      • by TWX ( 665546 )
        I suppose I should add, even in those circumstances it would be demoralizing to rely entirely on this drink for complete nutritional sustenance, and at least one real, substantial, solid meal per day would be needed. Soldiers on-patrol or on-alert that simply can't stop to have a meal would probably be the only ones that would 'benefit' from this.
        • Soldiers typically need a lot more calories. Where it would interesting is an emergency food source or part of one for disasters ans such. I keep MREs around just because in the winter, it is possible i can get snowed in for two or three days without power or water (well run off electric )

    • by Isarian ( 929683 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @01:50PM (#50242213)

      The idea was to have foodstuff that is easy to prepare, low-cost, and includes all of your dV of various dietary needs. One of the promises/mission statements by Rob Rhinehart was to reduce the cost of Soylent over the time - there's some consternation in the Soylent community right now because with the announcement of 2.0 they are also increasing the cost of the base powder form of Soylent with no material change to the formula - your standard price hike, quite contrary to the promise of lower costs over time.

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      => What is the gain in using this?

      Silicon Valley 1.0: Let's build something cool and make the world a better place.
      Silicon Valley 2.0: FUCK YEAH DISRUPT ALL THE THINGS BECOME BILLIONAIRE!

      The "benefit" of Soylent is you can make millions of dollars by convincing other wannabe-millionaires by giving them Life Hacks(tm) so they can Bro Down(tm) and Code(tm). Flavor is an impediment to Productivity(tm). Concern for presentation is an impediment to Agility(tm). Time that you spend cooking and eating food

    • by pr0t0 ( 216378 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @02:04PM (#50242361)

      I don't think it's really meant to be a complete food replacement for most people. I make my own based off of what I saw on the DIY Soylent page. Mine's a bit more nutritionally complete than most DIY stuff, is a little cheaper, and is fewer calories than actual Soylent. It also contains no soy or oats (which can cause gas). I only consume it for breakfast and lunch, Monday through Friday. I really love it though. It's quick, easy, low cost, filling, and nutritionally complete. How much molybdenum do you get? How about Selenium? Enough?

      My only worry is absorption. It's all well and good to say that I am putting the National Institute of Health's RDI of each vitamin, mineral, and macronutrient; but I don't really know if I'm absorbing all of that. Still, I feel great, I'm losing weight, and my bloodwork is good.

      My guess is the bottled product is part of a long-term strategy to eventually push to sell the product in grocery stores. It will be meant for grab-and-go eating that some people will pay a higher price for given the convenience. Soylent will wholesale it to the stores who will then mark it back up to a price that Soylent can say people are already comfortable paying.

    • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

      by FudRucker ( 866063 )
      i can buy a pound of hamburger, one tomato, one onion, head of lettuce, loaf of bread, for about 20 bucks, and cook four hamburgers, and feed four people and it will taste a heck of a lot better, thats about 5 bucks each a day, a lot better than a liquid diet too
      • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @05:33PM (#50244239)

        i can buy a pound of hamburger, one tomato, one onion, head of lettuce, loaf of bread, for about 20 bucks, and cook four hamburgers, and feed four people and it will taste a heck of a lot better, thats about 5 bucks each a day, a lot better than a liquid diet too

        But that's not nutritionally complete.

        You need to add bacon and cheddar cheese.

    • by lbmouse ( 473316 )
      Plus you can have bacon and chocolate chip cookies.
    • => What is the gain in using this?

      I think it's the food equivalent of (the apparently apocryphal story that) "Albert Einstein had 7 of the exact same suit".

      Some people apparently don't like food much, so they just want to get the nutrition and be on with their day.

    • by Jack9 ( 11421 )

      > cooking my self I can manage a (I hope) tastier alternative for less,...

      I don't eat much (once a day). I routinely forget to eat. I do not cook (my home's kitchen is pristine). For me, it's been a chore to eat, for as long as I've been alive.

  • by xxxJonBoyxxx ( 565205 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @01:44PM (#50242161)

    >> Not only are its ingredients vegan

    Who the f*** wants to drink pureed vegans?

    If I'm going to get my liquid cannibal on, I want the taste of real hamburger-fed 'muricans!

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

      >> Not only are its ingredients vegan

      Who the f*** wants to drink pureed vegans?

      If I'm going to get my liquid cannibal on, I want the taste of real hamburger-fed 'muricans!

      Too fatty. Besides, vegans are grass-fed. Gives better flavor than grain-fed.

  • by Hardness ( 990225 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @01:47PM (#50242181)

    I forgot about Soylent. I read the headline and thought, "Wow, Soylent News' new business model is pretty interesting!"

    "...Wait, why is this on Slashdot..?" //reads more carefully:

    "Oh."

  • ...an unprecedented level of environmental sustainability with half of its fat energy coming from farm-free, algae sources.

    Because plant sources of fat are not environmentally sustainable?

    • Because plant sources of fat are not environmentally sustainable?

      Not as modern agriculture is practiced.

  • by Nutria ( 679911 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @01:57PM (#50242297)

    What's wrong with farmed algae?

  • How are urban hipsters supposed to come up with $363/month PER PERSON, in addition to the rent on their industrial loft, $15/day coffee habits, and fixed-gear bicycles?

  • by Geste ( 527302 )

    " signifying a major step towards a future of abundance"

    Too late.

  • A world with out medium rare prime rib and good quality cheeses is no world for lbmouse. When does the next rocket leave?
  • by smoothnorman ( 1670542 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @02:09PM (#50242447)
    "let'see everyone who was alive in the 1960s is dead now, right? so it's time again to sucker them into the 'Bachelor Chow' 'Meal in a Pill' scam" : "non-frozen balance energy snack in rod form containing nutritionally balanced amounts of carbohydrate, fat and protein" [wikipedia.org] (yep "rod form", that's exactly missing here)
    • ...non-frozen balance energy snack in rod form ...(yep "rod form", that's exactly missing here)

      They couldn't get a cafeteria full of grown adults to start gnawing on their rods for lunch.

  • $2.42 for a single meal that lasts up to a year. Sounds like it's market is survivalist hipsters planning for the end of the world. I'll stick to a pound of split peas or lentils. Heck if I'm going full on Apocalypse survivalist I'll just take the discount and buy in bulk getting them at far less than a dollar per pound. They last 4 to 5 years so much better as a survival meal. With O2 absorbers they're supposed to last forever. I could even stock up on freeze dried veggies and make a better meal.Why would
  • by drinkypoo ( 153816 ) <drink@hyperlogos.org> on Monday August 03, 2015 @02:11PM (#50242471) Homepage Journal

    Ensure is 1/3 of a daily meal plan and costs $1.19/unit. In order to be successful, a new product has to be cheaper and better. If your definition includes sustainability then it might be "better", but at literally twice the price of the entrenched competition, it's got to be twice as good. But it's little more than half the food value... So it's got to taste almost four times as good as Ensure to be compelling. Guess what?

  • by ArcadeMan ( 2766669 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @02:17PM (#50242535)

    It doesn't even have ELECTROLYTES!

  • ...but I wouldn't name a food "Soylent" and then brag about how green it is...

  • Soylent has announced today their latest product, Soylent 2.0

    Some explanation of Soylent 1.0 might be nice for those of us who might not have seen previous reporting on the subject. Otherwise, I might just assume it's people.

  • I'm not sure that pre-mixed is the most economical move. Water is very heavy by volume and makes the nutrients takes up a lot more space. This is why dried beans, concentrated fruit juice, and powdered supplements are cheaper. (Powdered milk is dirt cheap, but it tastes spoiled, so there are exceptions.) With the powdered formula, they could keep the costs down. With the liquid formula, shipping is going to wreck the economics of it. I could see having some liquid formula in the fridge for when you're

  • as bad as it sounds? Because it sounds like it will taste horrific.
  • by PPH ( 736903 ) on Monday August 03, 2015 @02:48PM (#50242883)

    Handed down from visiting aliens in a book titled "To Serve Man".

  • They should have called it "Po Pi Po" - then they'd at least get a catchy theme song :-P

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