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The Physics of Lexus's Hoverboard 36

benonemusic writes: Lexus' hoverboard may never become commercially available, but is it scientifically feasible? You'd need to place a superconducting material in a magnetic field powerful enough to support the board and the rider. Steve Gourlay of Lawrence Berkeley Lab's Superconductor Magnet Group provides insights, including the possibility that Lexus put some very strong rare-earth magnets underneath the sidewalk in the video.
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The Physics of Lexus's Hoverboard

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    Fun for all ages!
    Caution: Do not open. May freeze fingers off.
     

  • by timholman ( 71886 ) on Saturday June 27, 2015 @07:23AM (#50001365)

    Magnetic levitation is certainly feasible, but it is almost certainly economically impractical.

    For example, Ken Pence at Vanderbilt University has built a prototype magnetic levitation platform [newtechscifi.com] that uses spinning NdFeB magnets. I've seen it in action. It requires an aluminum sheet underneath the platform, and uses about 20 kW of power to lift a maximum of 300 pounds. Prof. Pence's ultimate goal is to make it steerable and have a demo with students driving it around a room.

    However, Prof. Pence will cheerfully admit that the technology is far from practical for consumer use. You'd need to install aluminum sheeting under every roadway, and the power requirements for the amount of load being lifted are excessive. 20 kW is enough to push an electric car down the road at 60 mph. He will jokingly admit that his magnetic platform would only do 60 mph if you drove it off a cliff.

    So why build it? His students constructed it as part of a Management of Technology course, where they learn firsthand the practical limitations of building a "gee whiz" device. I've seen some pretty interesting gadgets come out of that class (e.g. a wireless power transmitter), but as his students figure out, just because something is possible doesn't make it the least bit practical.

    • by smaddox ( 928261 )

      I agree that super-conductor based magnetic levitation systems have questionable economics, at least with the current state of high-temperature superconductors. However, that hasn't prevented Maglev train test-tracks [wikipedia.org] from being built.

      In contrast, standard active magnetic levitation bearings [wikipedia.org] are very economically viable, particularly in applications requiring extremely high rotational speeds, long operating times, and low oil contamination, e.g. turbomolecular vacuum pumps [wikipedia.org].

  • Call me when they have a thrust and power system that is unlike anything before. A hoverboard requiring a track and super conductors is about as innovative as someone re-inventing the wheel. If it can't go anywhere but its track, it's a pointless gimmick.
    • by rossdee ( 243626 )

      Yeah, 40 years ago they thought all (passenger) railways would be maglev with linear induction motors doing over 500Km/hr and replace aircraft for medium distance... This is basically the same sort of technology. Of course we really need room temp superconductors first...

      • by smaddox ( 928261 )

        If/when the price of jet fuel is 10-100x higher (which will admittedly be a long time from now), high-speed rail will make a comeback.

  • Oh come on people, there's no story here. Notice how the video ended just as whoever it was put a foot on the 'hoverboard'? It's obvious that while there may be magnets involved, it wasn't for-real and as soon as any weight was put on it, it was on the ground and not going anywhere. Old trick, nothing to see here, move along, people..
    At best this 'story' is just a shameless shill for Lexus, even more reason to ignore it.
  • Flying carpets were perfected by Arab magicians centuries ago.

    http://www.moillusions.com/fly... [moillusions.com]

  • by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Saturday June 27, 2015 @12:57PM (#50002625)

    Points in case:

    - Obviously supercooled.
    - We do not get to see how much it dips with passenger. Hence it very likely only carries its own weight, which may be almost nothing.

    This thing is no hover-board, it just looks like one. Levitating superconductors are nothing new. The only thing cool or noteworthy is the clever misdirection by Lexus.

    • Points in case:

      - Obviously supercooled.
      - We do not get to see how much it dips with passenger. Hence it very likely only carries its own weight, which may be almost nothing.

      This thing is no hover-board, it just looks like one. Levitating superconductors are nothing new. The only thing cool or noteworthy is the clever misdirection by Lexus.

      Even if can carry a person, I don't they would want to show the result. The thing has no resistence, I doubt anyone could stay upright on it, or even get both feet on it at the same time, and if they did, it would not look cool and elegant.

  • ... including the possibility that Lexus put some very strong rare-earth magnets underneath the sidewalk in the video.

    I don't see why we couldn't just do that everywhere. It won't cost more than a trillion dollars, and it would pretty much solve all the problems we constantly have with sidewalks lacking strong magnetic fields.

    I mean, it would create some new problems for non-hovering skateboards, bikes, carts, segways, other wheeled vehicles, people in wheelchairs, people with piercings or surgical plates, people who wear steel-toed boots, people carrying hard drives, clumsy people who drop ferrous items, people whose

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