Russian Official Calls For "International Investigation" of the Apollo Program 307
MarkWhittington writes: According to a Tuesday article in the Moscow Times, a spokesman for Russia's Investigative Committee named Vladimir Markin suggested that an international investigation be mounted into some of the "various murky details surrounding the U.S. moon landings between 1969 and 1972." Markin would particularly like to know where some of the missing moon rocks went to and why the original footage of the Apollo 11 moon landing was erased. Markin hastened to add that he is, of course, not suggesting that NASA faked the moon landings and just filmed the events in a studio.
Of course not. (Score:5, Insightful)
Of course he's not suggesting that. He's suggesting that Putin wants another sideshow and is desperate enough to think this'll do it....
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Re: Of course not. (Score:4, Funny)
That's because you beat her to death!
Re: Of course not. (Score:4, Funny)
Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests.
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He loves football, but has really tender feet. That's why he lives on Endor.
Re:Of course not. (Score:5, Interesting)
Of course he's not suggesting that.
Here's what's completely ridiculous about the whole "fake Moon landing" thing:
In 1969, "special effects" that were convincing enough to have faked the whole thing would probably have cost more than 2 whole trips to the moon.
Besides... the site has been photographed from orbit repeatedly since.
Re:Of course not. (Score:5, Informative)
And here is more corroboration. [wikipedia.org]
Re:Of course not. (Score:5, Funny)
Obviously those are fakes. You can tell by the fact that they show a lander on the moon. :-D
Re:Of course not. (Score:5, Insightful)
Obviously those are fakes. You can tell by the fact that they show a lander on the moon. :-D
Sadly, that is how a conspiracy theorist actually thinks. In this case, NASA publishing photos from a probe orbiting the moon to prove NASA went to the moon 40 years ago will be labeled as the complicit organization just putting out more lies. These people will only believe something when it is put directly in front of them (sometimes not even then), and since they can't go to the moon to see these artifacts for themselves, you can't prove it to them, and any second-party proof you present will be dismissed as fake or lies. It is one of the tenets of how they make claims that within their requirements for "proof", the claim becomes non-falsifiable.
Re: Of course not. (Score:5, Funny)
I want to know why Putin fucks goats and why all evidence has been erased. So many shirtless Putin shots have been doctered!
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I want to know why Putin fucks goats and why all evidence has been erased
Because they were MALE goats and we all know Putin's stance on all things gay.
Re: Of course not. (Score:5, Funny)
Wide?
Re:Of course not. (Score:5, Interesting)
In this case other countries with no reason to lie for the US have observed the landing sites too. Both China and Russia have photographed them from orbit.
Even back at the time the landings were taking place other countries were able to verify them by simply listening in on radio communications from the moon. They would have realized pretty quickly if the signals were not coming from the moon, so at the very least NASA would have had to somehow get some unmanned transmitters up there.
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Re: Of course not. (Score:2, Insightful)
Even if you don't believe the primary evidence, this is very compelling secondary evidence. The Soviets were locked in the space race with the U.S. and would have done anything to embarrass the U.S. The fact that they did not do that suggests that it actually happened.
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Hmm, how about the fact that I and my friends personally remember many of the events happening at the time?
Oh no!!! I just realized my own memory must be in on the conspiracy! This is so much worse than I ever imagined! Or is it? Maybe this isn't the first time I've realized this - if my memory is in on it then it could simply refuse to recall any previous realizations... Thanks a lot, I can't trust anything now!
Wait, what was I talking about? Oh well, can't have been too important. If you'll excuse m
Re: Of course not. (Score:2)
All this is proves is that the US later planted those on the moon to cover up the original fake moon landing.
Now where's that nice vodka Mr Putin sent me.
Re:Of course not. (Score:5, Funny)
In 1969, "special effects" that were convincing enough to have faked the whole thing would probably have cost more than 2 whole trips to the moon.
I guess you haven't taken a look at those images lately, the "special effects" have not aged well. This site is truly revealing [stuffucanuse.com] But you be the judge. ;-)
Re:Of course not. (Score:5, Insightful)
Exactly. I did an IMDB search and found a Sci Fi movie from 1969 - Journey To The Far Side Of The Sun. Take a look at some of the effects [youtu.be]. They were probably state of the art then and must have looked amazing, but they look extremely fake nowadays. Even if NASA had gotten the best and brightest of Hollywood on the "moon landing production", I doubt that 1) they could have pulled it off with so much realism, 2) they could have all kept the secret for so long, and 3) they wouldn't have used their knowledge from faking the moon landing to make more realistic movie special effects.
Re:Of course not. (Score:5, Insightful)
Not only that, but at the time of the Moon landing, the Russians themselves were rather heavily involved in that arena. Had the landing been faked, Russia absolutely would have known; they would have distributed the proof far and wide to humiliate and one-up the Americans. It's just a tad late for a Russian to start asking questions.
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ad the landing been faked, Russia absolutely would have known; they would have distributed the proof far and wide to humiliate and one-up the Americans.
That's a very good point. While we don't have objective evidence, I think it's more than reasonable to expect they would have done exactly that.
Re:Of course not. (Score:4, Insightful)
Not only that, but at the time of the Moon landing, the Russians themselves were rather heavily involved in that arena. Had the landing been faked, Russia absolutely would have known; they would have distributed the proof far and wide to humiliate and one-up the Americans. It's just a tad late for a Russian to start asking questions.
That and Parkes (I have a relative who worked there at the time, he didn't work for NASA). And Fresnedillas.. Oh, and the Japanese.
Why is it that the same people who claim the Moon mission was a fake, happily believe the Moon is now a secret military base, the world is ruled by shape shifting lizard aliens, all technology was reverse engineered from crashed alien space craft, and that 9/11 was an inside demolition job kept totally secret (and that no one outside the Manhattan project knew the US was working on nuclear weapons). Is it the fluoride in the water, gang-stalking mind-control rays, or just the high altitude chem sprays?
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They were also trying to get a fetch-and-return lunar soil sample mission completed before Apollo 11 so that they could claim a small victory over the USA. It failed though. It was another year before they got a successful one.
The most telling statistic with the lunar rocks though is that 3 USSR robotic fetch-and-return missions amassed a total of some 300 grammes. In comparison the 6 Apollo missions amassed some 300 kilogrammes.
Re:Of course not. (Score:4, Informative)
Well, if you understand the physics of the Lunar Laser Ranging [wikipedia.org] stuff, then it is pretty much irrefutable humans were on the moon.
Because to have a calibrated retroreflector [wikipedia.org], in a known spot on the surface of the moon, and with a measurable round trip time for a laser, with which you can measure the distance to the moon (because you know the speed of light) is not something you can fake ... that is, unless you have a calibrated retroreflector in a known spot on the surface of the moon.
To hell with special effects. Let's just go with physics. You can point a laser at a known spot on the moon and have that laser come back to you.
There is no faking that.
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To play devil's advocate, that retroreflector could have been placed there remotely - its existence doesn't necessarily imply that people put it there.
I don't believe the conspiracy nonsense - as Mitchell and Webb demonstrated, the only difference in cost between faking the moon landings and actually performing them would be the catering costs for the astronauts :)
"Murky Details . . ." (Score:2)
Well, here you go Mr. Putin; here are the tapes that you have been looking for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Since this contains content of a . . . well . . . "confidential" nature . . . you should view this late at night, after your wife has gone to bed.
. . . and don't forget a box of tissues, and some hand cream.
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What does Putin have to do with this?
This is Markin, the well known token ultra nationalist retard who works as a spokesman rather than investigator. He's a bit like Rush Limbaugh in US, only with a whole lot less audience. Pens private op-eds every once in a while. He was mentioned a couple of times during a prime time show we had here in Finland about relations, basically dismissed by everyone as someone who likes attention and only gets it by publishing private over the top op-eds.
The proof? (Score:5, Interesting)
The reason is the US FIFA investigation (Score:4, Funny)
There, saved you reading the article.
Buzz Aldrin, paging Buzz Aldrin (Score:5, Interesting)
Will Buzz Aldrin please pick up the white courtesy phone? We have need of your your services. [youtube.com]
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The grammar of that sig deserves a visit from Ser Ilyn Payne. [westeros.org]
http://grammarist.com/eggcorns... [grammarist.com]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
Indeed, it is obvious that someone does not care about language. Whom shall we say it is?
It's just grumbling about US investigations (Score:5, Informative)
From T first FA:
Venting his frustration with what he viewed as "U.S. prosecutors having declared themselves the supreme arbiters of international football affairs," Markin proposed that international investigators could likewise examine some of the murkier elements of America's past.
Re:It's just grumbling about US investigations (Score:5, Interesting)
Seems like sloppy work, to me.
No it is just grandstanding (Score:2)
Anyone with a bit of sense understands the difference. The reason the US can indict these FIFA officials is because they made the mistake of committing financial crimes that involved the US in some way. Either using US banks, or with US citizens/companies, or in the US. That makes it something the US can prosecute for, and obviously Interpol agrees.
Investigating the US space program. Ummm, well I mean you can "investigate" in terms of "Collect whatever evidence you can get your hands on and release a report
Well okay, it's both (Score:2)
Anyone with a bit of sense understands the difference.
I hope I have a bit of sense. ;-)
It's grumbling because he's "venting his frustration" per the article.
It's grandstanding because he calls the supposed mystery behind missing videos and moon rocks is a "common loss" to the "legacy of humanity."
I agree with everything else in your post.
Re:No it is just grandstanding (Score:5, Insightful)
Hey! Look over there, a Yeti!
There is nothing in this article other than some idiot saying he objects to the US appointing themselves in charge of investigating corruption, and by the way, we should look into their claims of landing on the moon.
Not that he thinks they lied about the moon.
This is very thinly veiled distraction and innuendo.
Don't treat it like it's a coherent anything. It's complete gibberish.
This is the fucking Wookie defense.
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This is the fucking Wookie defense.
I think you mean the Chewbacca defense. [wikipedia.org]
But you're right about the innuendo, etc.
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Chewbacca is a Wookie. If Chewbacca is a Wookie, then we must investigate the US moon landings.
If FIFA is corrupt, then Chewbacca is a Wookie who must investigate the US moon landings.
There is no logical conclusion or argument being made here. Just blatant "hey, look at the moon landings".
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:-DDD
Thanks for that. You made my day!
Re:No it is just grandstanding (Score:4, Interesting)
From the Russian point of view the only reason the US government investigated it and sough prosecution was because Russian is the next country to get the World Cup. The side show venting about the moon is because he didn't think about the corruption involved in the US getting the Olympics. So the Russians government does not care about the various US moon missions (at least in the past everything is changing now as the push is on to get back there, obviously this is secret that has just subconsciously leaked out), just empty bitching and a possible security blunder.
Look at all the stupid shit American politicians say, seriously stupid shit that doesn't even hint of benign as the FIFA investigation. Every time any Russian says anything it is Putin's fault or the whole Russian governments fault. Yet the endless stream of bullshit spouting out from the whackddoodles that infest the US congress and senate is considered as not being from the US government at all this by the US government.
Putin Vs. Donald Trump (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Putin Vs. Donald Trump (Score:5, Funny)
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The hair Putin doesn't have is better than the hair Trump does. But, overall a fair comparison - they're both overcompensating, megalomaniacal sociopaths.
But one of them has nukes.
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Re:Putin Vs. Donald Trump (Score:5, Funny)
I'm pretty sure Putin has nukes, blackjack, and hookers.
Space Race (Score:2)
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Mod: +1, Hopefully.
Apollo 18 (Score:3)
Here's why various moon rocks have gone missing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RGhKzUUaME [youtube.com]
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Passing around bits of pumice to gullible school kids seems like a real mean trick.
The tapes were re-used (Score:4, Insightful)
A while back there was a huge hunt to find the original tapes used to record the lunar landing. It is suspected that the tape was re-used due to NASA's tight budget and they couldn't afford more tape. The tape was very expensive at the time so it was common to just re-use what they could find. The Apollo mission was done, so why would they need to keep the tape around. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time.
That or it's stashed under someone's coffee table and forgotten about.
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Being in somebody's attic is not impossible; they could have been mislabelled and targeted to be thrown out and somebody just kept them (possibly without knowing what they've got). I've got a Skylab Operations Handbook for the Apollo Telescope Mount sitting on my desk, and I know my father had reel-to-reel tapes of the audio from the lunar lander missions on the shelf at one point (both were being thrown away).
Stuff also gets actually thrown out eventually. I've seen many boxes of punch cards from NASA go
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Exactly this. It's the same reason why there are missing episodes of Doctor Who and other early television shows. Yes, it was the first moon landing, but tape was expensive and people didn't think about saving this stuff as much. After all, if we had gone by aspirations from the 1960's, we'd have had a moon base by now with permanent residents. Going to the moon might have been akin to going on vacation to a far off foreign country - a special trip you take once or twice if you can afford it. Not somet
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On top of this, these were tapes of mostly telemetry data, of which most of the interesting data had been copied for whatever it was needed for. That includes the video: it was slow-scan video which had already been converted to more useful forms for live broadcast...we could do a better conversion now if we had the data (especially for the first few minutes, where the scan converter was misconfigured), but they didn't think it was necessary, especially when we brought back reels of film from the Maurer DAC
Re:The tapes were re-used (Score:5, Interesting)
Not just budget concerns. There was also a big problem in the 80s when commercial whaling was outlawed. The tape that NASA had used to record a lot of data involved whale oil in its production somehow. When whaling went out, whale oil went away, and companies that made data tape scrambled to replace it with something. They came up with synthetic alternatives, but because they didn't have much time to test, they discovered after it was already in use that the new stuff basically turned into glue after sitting on a shelf too long, which ruined tapes. So the old whale oil tapes became valuable for re-use, since you could depend on them not gluing together and losing all of your data. So that's another reason why NASA taped over a lot of irreplaceable data.
At a conference last year, I spoke with a NASA guy who was working on recovering a lot of old lunar data. He told me about the whale oil angle. He also said their best find at that point had been a whole palette/palettes of the whale oil tapes that had been sent from one NASA group to another to be copied over, but had been misplaced in a warehouse during transit, and just sat there ever since.
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They should have just switched back from whale oil tapes to good old-fashioned Nibblonian dark matter tapes.
You saw that a lot in studios too (Score:3)
Master reel-to-reel tape was fucking expensive. So small time bands didn't keep the masters, or intermediate multi-track recordings. They instead reused tape that had already been used, and was then used again.
Even these days, plenty of time master recordings aren't kept. For professional productions they usually are but for others stuff often not. At work I do recordings some times and they are AVCHD recorded to internal flash in the camera. That gets erased and reused of course. When I dump the data, I ke
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A while back there was a huge hunt to find the original tapes used to record the lunar landing.
... and the last entry in the borrowers book was signed Alex Jones [infowars.com].
The truth is "out there", if you can't find it:-
I know for a fact - because Shirley McLaine told me (when she channeled Depack Chopra).
Let Russia Bankrupt Themselves To Check (Score:5, Insightful)
Fine, go ahead Russia, spend a chunk of your GDP and put some boots on the Moon and fact check the U.S.
Oh yeah, make sure to make some more nuclear missiles. That's not cheap either, but security!
But wait...weren't these exact activities what caused the USSR to bankrupt themselves back in the 90's? Just checking.
No hate Russia, but you need to rein in your rhetoric. You have been beaten by playing this hand before.
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weren't these exact activities what caused the USSR to bankrupt themselves
Lots of activities contributed to that.
Including the irony of having 18 million people employed in planning the economy and being extremely bad at it.
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China especially is a far closer friend than the US to Russia, history has shown the US is far more likely to be engaged in rat fucking given the past 30 years of meddling in politics in the region.
The footage is with the lost Doctor Who episodes (Score:5, Funny)
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They lost the footage because it clearly shows a TARDIS in the background. Can't have everyone knowing The Doctor is real, now can they?
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Ha, I've seen the Marco Polo serial.
Mind, I was about ten at the time; it was being broadcast on CBC I think the year after it first aired on BBC.
About all I remember from it is a scene where they're crossing the desert, the TARDIS being carried in a wagon, and The Doctor supplies water to the party "collected from condensation on the inside walls", and the incredulity of the others who aren't aware that the TARDIS is smaller on the outside.
Also saw the first Dalek episodes when originally aired on CBC. Pr
What is this crap? (Score:5, Informative)
So, some guy from a Russian Investigative Committee for ... what exactly? Snide innuendo and propaganda?
Does he have a mandate for something?
This is some idiot trying to throw around smoke about the fact that Russia is implicated in bribery with FIFA, and then somehow pulling the bullshit nugget out of his as to fling poo at the moon landings?
I wonder if Mr Vladimir Markin has stopped sodomizing young boys and embezzling resources from the state.
This article is such thinly veiled rhetoric and bullshit as to be deserving of a fucking award.
In three paragraphs he bitches about what we really wants to complain about, tosses in a snide reference to Americans investigating corruption, and then insinuiates that maybe there are other pieces of history for which the Americans have also acted corrupt and dishonorably. There's not even a pretense of denying Russia was corrupt.
Then the next two paragraphs is more innuendo to throw the reader away from realizing that Russia is alleged to have benefited from corruption in FIFA
I sincerely hope journalism classes are doing a case study in propaganda, and logic students everywhere are being shown the bald-faced, lies, innuendo, and misdirection in this utter piece of crap.
Bra-fucking-oh, I hadn't realized the extent to which the press in Moscow was still so utterly a tool of government.
That's some exceptionally well done lies right there. Carefully crafted to look like a reasoned argument, when in fact it's specious misdirection and innuendo.
I certainly hope that Mr Vladimir Markin doesn't have too many children out of wedlock, that could get awfully expensive.
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I hadn't realized the extent to which the press in Moscow was still so utterly a tool of government.
Then you really haven't been paying attention.
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Honestly, since the weekly threats to nuke us seem to have mostly ended ... yes.
Certainly not at the level of reading the drivel in their papers, for instance.
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Oh my god, it is APK's actual Slashdot account!
Not that he'd know anything about this... (Score:4, Funny)
He went on to say "I'm very skeptical, since the background in a lot of those moon photos looks just like the set we used to film those attacks on defenseless Russians by Ukrainian thugs...uh...um...I mean...nevermind."
Missing (Score:2)
Missing? How could we let that happen? Those were the *last* moon rocks!
We Can Use This (Score:2)
Wrong in so many ways, true. But I bet it'd stick.
Radio Telescopes (Score:2)
Sure, because apparently the USSR didn't have radio telescopes tracking the missions. 'Cause they weren't really interested in moon shots back then, right? Free lunar telemetry for anyone pointing their dishes in the right spot? Pfft, no thank you.
The real fraud is that being perpetrated (Score:2, Offtopic)
by the fast food companies. They load the food with genetically engineered microbes that kill off and replace the microbes that normally populate our guts. These microbes bear payloads of prions that can pass the blood-brain barrier and target the pleasure centers in the brain causing us to become addicted to the fast food. This causes us to gain weight. The pharmaceutical companies are in on the plot in order to sell more diabetes and other obesity-related health problem medications.
The real shock will
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You mean sugar, fat, salt and caffeine are not enough to make us happy with junk food?
Heresy!
Dr Strangelove (Score:2)
The secret died with Stanley Kubrick.
http://realitysandwich.com/232... [realitysandwich.com]
USA on the moon proof... (Score:2)
From people who listened to it live (Score:2)
Ok so this is completely anecdotal from some people in my family who watched it in Australia. They watched/listened to it live off the feed from Parkes and a bit after the Eagle landed they heard a very excited Armstrong say: "Huston, Huston, There is something large and unusually* white coming off the crater ri..." and then the feed was cut.
* could have also been suspiciously.
Personally, I don't go in for the whole UFO thing or conspiracy theories about the moon landings but they have both maintained thi
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Ok so this is completely anecdotal from some people in my family who watched it in Australia. They watched/listened to it live off the feed from Parkes and a bit after the Eagle landed they heard a very excited Armstrong say: "Huston, Huston, There is something large and unusually* white coming off the crater ri..." and then the feed was cut.
* could have also been suspiciously.
I watched it and I never heard that. Neither did anyone else I went to school with. At best someone has been yanking your chain. You say you heard that from someone who saw it - almost every Australian from a few years younger than me - to 5 years older would have watched (tv wasn't in every home, but most schools had one, even if they borrowed it) it - yet only the supposed source of you anecdote heard "Huston, Huston, There is something large and unusually* white coming off the crater ri..." and then the feed was cut?!
The feed wasn't "cut" either.
I watched it happen back in 1969 (Score:2)
Markin hastened to add that he is, of course, not suggesting that NASA faked the moon landings and just filmed the events in a studio.
I just came here to say, f*ck right the way off, waaaay over there, whoever is peddling this old crap. sheesh.
Russia jumps the shark... (Score:2)
Desperate for Distraction (Score:2)
Sounds to me like the Russians are desperate for a distraction from their domestic problems and their international floundering.
Sometimes the obvious is the correct answer? (Score:2)
The moon rocks go missing because they aren't well protected and are rarer than gold.
Many of the odd statements issued by NASA were just run of the mill anti-spying stories. For example the space suits from that time are "to keep astronauts warm in the cold of space". If you in a perfect vacuum and generating 170 Watts, you don't need heating. The real story is that the US used Peltier effect cooling and the Soviets used compressor based systems. Since the people who controlled what technology could be
Naaarp (Score:2)
http://www.nvidia.com/coolstuf... [nvidia.com]
The little land that time forgot... (Score:2)
Don't even get me started about Paul Bunyan.
What really gets me (Score:2)
... is how the lunar hoax conspiracy theorists don't seem to spend much time pondering the launches of the Saturn Vs. These were very public events witnessed by thousands of people. Was each and every one of this people brainwashed into thinking they say a launch? If that seems unlikely, what exactly was going on with the 363 foot tall rockets blasting off into space if they weren't going to the moon? Why bother to build something that had the capability, and then launch it for real, but then let it han
Inflammatory headline? (Score:4, Insightful)
Okay, so I decided to do a little digging on the actual op-ed piece. It's available here: http://izvestia.ru/news/587742 [izvestia.ru]
Here is a translation of what he said regarding the moon landings, courtesy of washington post:
“No, we are not saying they never flew up there and just filmed a movie instead. But all these scientific, or perhaps even cultural artifacts are part of an international human heritage, and their disappearance is a great loss for all of us. An investigation would reveal [what happened and where they are].”
This is ALL he says about the moon landings. The slashdot post insinuates, "various murky details surrounding the U.S. moon landings between 1969 and 1972." but the actual piece after translation and in context with the corruption tone of the article looks like an accusation of US officials selling off or stealing material recovered from the moon. Not an accusation that the US never went to the moon. He even explicitly says that's not what he's questioning.
But I guess we gotta get our pitchforks and torches out because it's the evil bad Russia.
While we're at it, let's investigate Sputnik! (Score:2)
USSR tracked the rocket (Score:2)
Trajectory of the rocket was not hard to calculate.
Soviet Radars closely watched the rocket.
Here is what Alexey Leonov (soviet cosmonaut) said about the hoax theory (I've translated only important part):
"... we had military unit 32103, which supported space transmission... Unlike the rest of Soviet Union, we watched Armstrong and Aldring landing on the moon... "
Grechko, another famous soviet cosmonaut adds to it:
"We know for sure that Americans landed on the moon. When we were receiving the transmission, it
First find out who shot down 300 of our citizens (Score:2)
Easier to land than fake it? (Score:2)
How does this hold up if the landing was faked or not?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU
Beware of Crapping, Screeching Low Flying Monkeys (Score:2)
This issue exists and persists only to illustrate how many people will seize upon some dark conspiracy that not only 'means' nothing on its face... but if it were true and unraveled completely, would still mean nothing. I mean, think about it: there's absolutely nothing actionable in there.
People whose hobby is to fuck with people fuck with people with this fuck, as a hobby. Fuck those people.
If Moon Hoax stuff is coming from someone you love and respect... heed comments on the subject but adopt the same pr
Apollo 13? (Score:2)
Re:and 1 ....2......3.... Begin (Score:5, Funny)
Just when I thought the fake moon landing conversation had ended.
It will not end until the truth comes out. When I was a kid, I went on the Universal Studio tour, and when I went to the toilet, the tram left without me. So I looked around, and accidentally wandered into the warehouse with the fake Tranquility Base. Everything was done in Styrofoam, painted gray to match the color of the moon. There was an exact replica of the Eagle lander. I saw it all with my own eyes. Then the security guards grabbed me, threatened me, and told me that no one would believe me if I said anything. It is ironic that after all these years, it is the Russians that have finally revealed the coverup.
Re:and 1 ....2......3.... Begin (Score:4, Insightful)
Clearly fake. I can tell from some of the pixels. [wordpress.com]
Okay, okay, the bottom 90% of the vehicle that gets to a translunar trajectory is real because we saw it go up and disappear. But the top 10% was faked. That makes sense.
Re:and 1 ....2......3.... Begin (Score:5, Funny)
Everyone knows the moon landings were filmed on a soundstage on Mars!
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Everyone knows the moon landings were filmed on a soundstage on Mars!
Yes, they first tried to do it in the Nevada desert, but they couldn't get the sound right.
Re:and 1 ....2......3.... Begin (Score:5, Funny)
It will not end until the truth comes out
The truth is once they ran the numbers for how much the program was going to cost, they decided to fake it. Then they ran the numbers on developing the technology to convincingly fake it, and that was even worse. So they sent some guys to the moon in a rocket and faked it from there.
Re: In other, "only in Russia" news... (Score:2)
Mommy! Mommy! I wanna go on the bear ride again!