Ankle Exoskeleton Takes a Load Off Calf Muscles To Boost Walking Efficiency 128
Zothecula writes We might have started off in the water, but humans have evolved to be extremely efficient walkers, with a walk in the park being, well, a walk in the park. Human locomotion is so efficient that many wondered whether it was possible to reduce the energy cost of walking without the use of an external energy source. Now researchers at Carnegie Mellon and North Carolina State have provided an answer in the affirmative with the development of an unpowered ankle exoskeleton."
You've got braces on your legs... (Score:2)
... so you're all set. Although, no braces on your arms, though, so you're going to have to rely on the old human strength to keep a grip on the device and, by extension, me. So do make sure to keep a grip on me.
Also a note: no braces on your spine, either, so don't land on that. Or your head, no braces there. That could--that could split like a melon from this height. [nervous laugh] So do definitely focus on landing with your legs.
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... seriously? Google that next time before you spout off in a rage.
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hint: it's from Portal
http://theportalwiki.com/wiki/Long_Fall_Boots
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And you wouldn't get them from this. This reduces the amount of exercise your muscles do, not increases it.
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From the captions on the pictures, it says it reduces the energy used for walking by 7%, I am thinking this would be great for backpacking. It would reduce the amount of energy you expend and allow you to carry more weight.
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I don't see that in the article at all, in fact one of the pictures shows a guy wearing one walking up stairs.
The device reduces the energy use by replacing the calf muscle keeping tension on the achilles tendon with a spring and mechanical clutch mechanism, so it should work on any kind of terrain where you have to keep stable while a foot is on the ground. The clutch apparently disengages when you lift your foot so that it doesn't pull your toes down which would interfere with your walking.
Re:"Unpowered" (Score:5, Informative)
The energy to load the spring comes from the user as part of the normal operation cycle. That makes it unpowered.It does not bring extra energy to the operation (user walking by converting chemical energy to muscle contraction), it only changes how the energy is used.
The trick is to define the system and timeframe you are looking at sensibly. In this case you have the braces and the user taking a number of steps. The user generates the power, the braces are unpowered. If you looked at the braces for one unloading of the spring, you could say the frame is powered by the spring, but that is not very useful choice in most contexts outside design of the device.
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Think of a self-winding watch. It doesn't really wind itself, you (or your cat) wind it by moving around while wearing it.
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I've always thought that I was getting too much exercise walking around!
From you computer to the coffee machine, back and forth?
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I prefer lifting, myself. Preferably a pair of pints of oatmeal stout - that higher specific gravity means I'm burning more calories every time I raise my glass.
Water? (Score:2)
Humans started out in the water?
I mean, life started out in the water, sure, but there was a lot between the first creatures to leave the sea and humans.
Unless you're referencing that theory that humans evolved near the ocean, hence our relative hairlessness and whatnot. I thought that theory was out of favor.
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Indeed, I thought modern humans evolved in Olduvai Gorge [wikipedia.org].
Re:Water? (Score:4, Interesting)
Indeed, I thought modern humans evolved in Olduvai Gorge
The Omo River site in Ethiopia is the current frontrunner, I believe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Humans are life.
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So are snakes, which aren't particularly known for their walking abilities.
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I thought that theory was out of favor.
Less "out of favour" and more "never had any scientific attention or merit", also "lacking any archeological or fossil evidence".
See Space Ape! [scientificamerican.com]
"Unpowered" Energy ;) (Score:1)
This must be some new kind of energy
Every system you want to gain energy from has to be loaded with energy first. Both isn't possible without losing energy, at least in our universe which means any additional device on the human body makes the body lose more energy.
And probably completely unrelated:
The original article appeared on Nature [nature.com] on April 1st.
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It's not adding energy, it's avoiding some of the loss. A chair does a similar thing. By using that you expend less energy than by having to maintain your balance by standing.
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You should demand your money back from your school - or rather your physics teacher
Also it might help to read my post to the end.
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A biological system expends chemical energy to maintain a static position. Sure, sitting expends no energy -- assuming the person is modeled as a perfect sphere...
For a lot of people, a sphere is a pretty good first approximation.
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Gravitational potential energy converted to elastic potential energy which is then reversed. Heat is generated during the process, but probably not as much heat from the normal walking process.
Your argument about adding weight to a system causing it to use more energy would make sense if you were always going uphill. If you are still at ground level that probably isn't true. The Prius is heavier than a normal car(additional weight of battery and electric motor), but it still ends up being more fuel efficien
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Have you ever climbed a mountain, or gone backpacking? If you could go 7% farther in a day for the same energy input, or carry 7% more weight, it would be damn useful.
Not everything is about exercise, sometimes you want to reduce your energy usage.
Re:"Unpowered" Energy ;) (Score:4, Interesting)
Don't be obtuse. It's clear that what they're getting at is that it isn't externally powered when they say it's "unpowered".
Moreover, you've failed to consider how different efficiencies can affect the situation (i.e. the real world is not a frictionless vacuum). Yes, moving more mass means requiring more energy...output energy. But what we're concerned with here are inputs, since that's what we're expending.
Just to drive home the importance of the distinction between inputs and outputs (and also to toss in an obligatory car analogy), consider the Tesla Model S. It weighs about 50% more than a Toyota Camry, which means it'll take a greater energy output to move than the Camry. That said, the Camry's engine is only about 1/3 the efficiency of the Tesla's, which means that despite its lighter weight you'll still have to put more energy into it than the Tesla to get it to move the same distance.
The same applies here. Yes, adding an extra mechanism adds more weight, which means that the necessary energy output is greater. That said, your calf is inefficient at locking up during the downward part of your step, whereas a mechanical clutch is quite efficient at locking up, so by relying on simple machines to divert those forces to the clutch instead of your calf, you can reduce your dependency on an inefficient system (i.e. your calf), thus reducing the amount of input energy necessary, to the tune of 7%.
Or, hey, it's impossible. Because efficiency isn't a thing. How do you breathe in a frictionless vacuum, anyway? :P
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Also: muscles just aren't amazing as springs.
They're ok, but not as good as proper springs (ask the IAAF and Oscar Pistorius -- Philosoraptor: "Maybe we should give the elderly these blades instead of lower legs? Will old people lead the cybernetic revolution?").
It's like comparing a car with regenerative braking to one without (yes, also a car analogy). It's easy to see that the energetic cost of any added weight is easily offset by the reduced loss of energy to friction.
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Great! (Score:2)
Allowable or forbidden in competitive sports? (Score:2)
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Unless your sport is casual walking it won't.
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This has basically already happened.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O... [wikipedia.org]
Oscar was a double amputee, and a research subject for some fascinating "blade" prosthetic legs who won olympic gold medals for running. Some of the creators of the devices made the same kind of elementary mechanical mistake as some of the posters here: There is a fascinating documentary on Oscar's case, where one of the leg designers said "If they're unp
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Still some way to go (Score:1)
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This invention still does not counter the rise and fall of the upper body that occurs with each step, therefore this cannot address that lost and wasted energy.
The motion of the center of mass is not where the metabolic power of walking goes, any more than the rise and fall of the mass of a pendulum requires external power. That's kind of the point of this: the potential energy of the high center of mass converts to kinetic energy at the low center of mass like a pendulum, and elastic mechanisms in your tendons let you 'bounce' off the ground. This device reduces the muscular effort required to bounce.
Most of the energy cost lies in lifting each leg and swinging
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I'm impressed by the stupidity displayed in this comment.
If what you say is actually "the point of this", then you've proven your very first claim false. If the device is designed to recover lost energy in the motion of the center of mass, then there must be lost energy there unlike the motion of a pendulum. It's not a "bounce" if it requires "muscular energy" for its movement.
On a bicycle you absolutely have to move your leg up and forward with each pedal stroke. It cannot get there any other way. Now,
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On a bicycle you absolutely have to move your leg up and forward with each pedal stroke. It cannot get there any other way. Now, the leg may be moved there by the effort of the other leg or it may not, but either way the energy comes from you and nowhere else.
Ooh, here's an idea to improve bicycles forever! Your gluten are really good at pushing down but you're right, pulling up and over is a weakness for many people. What if - I know its crazy but stay with me here - what if we connected the two pedals so that instead of being independent, a tiny amount of the force that you push down with your big muscle groups could be used to help the other leg get into position for the next stroke?
I'mma gonna patent this right now. It'll make million$!
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Say what? No.
A pendulum is powered by the person who raised it for the first swing - after that its energy is cyclically transformed from gravitational potential energy to kinetic energy and back again. Perhaps you're thinking of the giant pendulums whose swinging plane slowly rotates - that rotation is indeed powered by the motion of the Earth (or more accurately, demonstrates the rotation of the Earth under the pendulum), but the energy of the swinging itself is all imparted when the pendulum is first r
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Even worse: 'orbit around the sun'.
I think the GP qualifies as 'not even wrong'.
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Only in a frictionless vacuum so that there's no energy loss. Or if there's an external energy source powering it (such as the hanging weights on an old-fashioned pendulum clock.) I have seen many pendulums, and they all slow down over time.
There are indeed some Foucault pendulums that have been on display for decades maybe even centuries, but they require someone to come along and boost their swing periodically - they don't magically suck power out of the motion of the Earth, they just demonstrate its ro
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The original discussion was on the claim that a pendulum swings forever without input energy, which is only true for certain pendulums, and so these are the pendulums being discussed.
The pendulum is carried by the rotation of the Earth; it's not in a fixed location, swinging in the same spot while the Earth moves under it. It changes its trajectory because the Earth passes some of its momentum to the pendulum.
Am I going to have to get Randall Monroe on this?
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No, the original discussion was relating the rise and fall of a person's center of mass to that of a pendulum, where no external energy is (necessarily) needed - nothing was said about pendulums swinging forever until you made your ridiculous claim.
There may be some small amount of momentum transfer between pendulum and planet (rotation only though, nothing that would impact its orbit around the sun), which is why I said it *might* be possible to construct a "perpetual" pendulum if you specifically attempte
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The motion of the center of mass is not where the metabolic power of walking goes, any more than the rise and fall of the mass of a pendulum requires external power. [slashdot.org]
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Yes - nothing there about perpetual motion, simply a reference to pendulum motion - you don't have to add energy on every swing, it will continue to to rise and fall without any external power source (at least until entropy robs it of it's momentum - but if we have to state that explicitly in *every* conversation it's going to get really tedious. Should we add "under the influence of gravity" as well?)
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You're telling me that the statement was that a center of mass continues to move forever when walking and requires no energy to keep it moving? That a person with more weight strapped to him--50 pounds strapped to his chest--won't have to work any harder to walk down the street than a person who has nothing attached? That's what the statement indicated?
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No, that was *their* claim - inaccurate in my opinion because humans *don't* have particularly elastic tendons. Kangaroos though *do*, and are by far the most efficient running animals on the planet. Despite their dramatic vertical motion they're nearly as efficient as wheeled vehicles.
Right, no external energy is required to keep a pendulum moving, for a while - entropy will eventually win, obviously, but you don't have to introduce any new energy to get the pendulum to climb back up the opposite side of
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No energy is required to keep ME moving--for a while. I have momentum when I take ONE STEP.
You're making a distinction between "it rolls for a while once you push it" and "it only rolls like, half an inch." In both of these situations, the thing stops; it requires additional energy to keep moving. To state that a pendulum doesn't need additional energy to keep moving is to state that a pendulum will carry its full swing FOREVER, not FOR A LITTLE WHILE or FOR A THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE FINALLY WEARING DOW
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You're being pedantic. NOTHING ANYWERE moves forever, not even orbital systems, though they slow down much slower thanks to the near-vacuum they operate in.
The point is, there is no *inherent* reason in an *idealized* system why the cyclic motion in walking (or pendulums) needs to consume energy. So long as energy is being lost, there's the potential to reduce those losses to get arbitrarily close to zero. Contrast that to lifting a box, wherein the input energy has an absolute minimum equivalent to the
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Of course there are more efficient systems for getting around.... but is there much room for improvement for the practice of walking itself?
Walking may admittedly be overall quite inefficient as a means of motion when you compare it to something like cycling, but how humans walk still might be as about efficient as the practice of walking itself can still physically get.
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but is there much room for improvement for the practice of walking itself?
Of course there is. If it's less efficient than cycling, then energy is lost somewhere in the system. Walking carries a stop effect that brings a mass to rest by dissipating the motion energy from heat; it carries friction and deformation effects from elastic pressure on joints and tendons; it carries loss in the form of inelastic muscle movements, pulling one way and then the other; it even carries a loss from fighting against gravity to lift the leg, and then not storing the gravitational potential whe
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Its less efficient than cycling, as was pointed out above, but again.... cycling isn't walking. I'm not arguing that there are much more energy efficient means of unpowered locomotion, the article merely suggests that the way that humans have evolved to walk may very well be nearly as efficient as *walking* can physically get.
The fact that there provably exists far more efficient modes of externally unp
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It's like suggesting that you should be able to get just as much energy out of a coal furnace as a nuclear one of the same size.
There's more actual energy in a nuclear pile than in a lump of coal. You should, in theory, be able to get just as much energy out of an 1100 degree coal furnace deriving 500kW of chemical energy from the coal as you can out of an 1100 degree nuclear reactor deriving 500kW of nuclear energy from the fuel.
Again: we know we use as much energy to bicycle some distance as we use to walk some shorter distance in a longer time. That tells us walking is inefficient, and thus that the mechanism of walking has
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Again, it's not being suggested that walking is necessarily the overall most efficient means of unpowered transport, or necessarily anywhere even close... rather, it is being suggested that the way humans do it is about efficient in energy usage as you can physically get and still be able to actually still *call* it walking, and not just simply generalize it as "unpowered locomotion".
Cycling may use the same muscles as what walking does, but cycling isn't walking. You use the same muscles as walkin
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In theory, you can set up a set of mechanical levers and springs so that the human legs place the feet flatly on the ground one after the other in the same way that a wheel places rubber on the ground in front of rubber, albeit in wide steps instead of a continuous roll; but the legs would be attached to a rotational system, such that the energy delivery is done like a wheel.
Think like a bicycle with shoes tied to the wheels. Then think like a system that abstracts that away, using the wheels to power a
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Uhhhh, I think the presence of the cycle is what makes cycling more efficient than walking.
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Actually, it probably does. It sounds like a mechanical version of what kangaroos accomplished by evolving an elastic Achilles tendon - when "running" they move vertically quite a bit, but unlike muscle which can't store energy, their tendons can stretch on landing and then return virtually all of the absorbed energy on the next jump, making them the most efficient runners on the planet, almost up to what can be accomplished with wheels.
More details (Score:2)
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Frankly, I see this having more use for people "needing" to hike for long distances (10-20mi) under weight.
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According to the article in Nature at http://www.nature.com/news/exo... [nature.com] , it only improves normal walking speed on level ground.
Which is too bad. My sister in law's right side was mostly paralyzed by a stroke. She shuffles around, swinging her body weight on her good leg, and is quite the effort. I was hoping this could help her, but given her gait it's unlikely.
Wow...Not one post... (Score:2)
Not one poster calling this out as the April Fool's day crap article it was meant to be (posted to the firehose 2 days late I might add). Now, I'm all for the meta joke that may be happening here and whatnot, but I would have thought there would have been at least one of y'all flipping their shit over this before now, calling the Slashdot Eds lazy or stupid as hell for putting the readership through a day of nothing but an overdone joke of fake sci-fi news post after fake sci-fi news post of original cont
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I'd prefer... (Score:2)
...a system that would store the energy for a couple of hours and use that to walk me home when I'm drunk.
Or stop wearing energy stealing shoes (Score:2)
The cushioning in modern shoes steals energy from your gait. If you go barefoot or wear shoes like flip flops or business shoes with no padding and your calves develop to the point where you have your own spring.
Here's a picture of the exoskeleton in use (Score:2)
The purpose of the device she's holding in her hands is unclear.
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Goddamit, it ate my link.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.... [nocookie.net]
What? (Score:2)
Scientists have now taken walking an activity many use for exercise and made it so we burn less energy by walking?
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That was my first reaction as well. The only exercise most people in the USA get is walking and often it's only to and from cars or in stores.
Could be useful for military personnel on long treks or for hiking the Appalachian trail or something. IANA physiologist, but my guess would be that this could not only reduce energy usage, but could also prevent or delay the onset of muscle cramps.
Otherwise you're right, most people would prefer to burn more energy while walking.
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Makes walking easier? (Score:2)
I'm going to wait for the Baron Harkonnen model to come out.
It remains to be seen ... (Score:2)
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It might help with people who have injured calf muscles where that extra 10lbs can help out a bit.
But effenancy isn't good for exercise as we want to burn calories and build up muscles.
However it could be used for jobs where there is a lot of walking where the effenancy can allow you to have enough energy at the end of your shift to be more effective.
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They decrease metabolic cost by 7% - suggesting that they would allow a perfectly healthy and fit person to carry ~7% more total load than they otherwise could without exhausting themselves. For a 200lb soldier capable of carrying another 200lb on his back, that's an additional ~24lbs they could carry essentially for free. Or alternately, break these out when carrying your normal load on a long forced march into enemy territory, and you can go at least 7% further, or reach your destination with extra ener
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Ultralight backpacking? That's just regular backpacking for those who spend mega bucks to shave grams right?
It's not like everybody else has been carrying the rocks to form a fire circle, just in case there aren't any at the camp site.
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Well, you can certainly go that way if you like - I'm more the budget DIY type myself. Mostly it's just about actually paying attention to the cost-benefit ratio of what you're carrying: I can now get everything I need for a cozy warm and comfortable multi-day hike into a ~10lb day pack now, instead of the 20-30lb pack I used to carry. I could easily cut that in half again if I cared to spend $$$ on titanium sporks, cuben-fiber tarps, etc, but I don't spend enough time camping for it to be worth it. Hell
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What can I say, I prefer to do my camping in style.
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I don't know any second time backpackers who don't do the weight-benefit thing.
If you are backpacking with that light a pack you are doing it in Hawaii. Water weights about 8lbs/gallon (take that metric dweebs).
So ultralight backpacking==backpacking on golf courses, getting drinks from course girl? People that go into the desolation wilderness with 10lb packs are soon statistics.
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Sure, there's just many places on the weight/benefit scale that you can choose to stop, and most people shed a lot of weight after their first trip or two - some people just choose to continue the trend even further - I suppose a lot of it boils down to whether you see the camping or the hiking aspect as being the really fun part. Me, I like walking all day without trying to reach a destination, so I try to avoid carrying a pack that interferes with that.
As for water - there's these things called rivers an
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There is almost always water somewhere. Don't backpack west of the Mississippi and expect you can always find water. 99% of the time you'll be right, the other 1% will be a very bad day.
But my point is about the harshness of the conditions. A 10 lb pack can get you killed anyplace you might need shelter.
Walking is cool and all. But backpacking is about your full outdoors skill set. Ever backpacked up, dug a snowcave, slept in it, then walked out? With a 10 lb pack? (It ought to be possible, but if you
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Well yeah, you do want to basically know the water situation in the area you're traveling in, or hike along rivers (my personal preference).
And sure, I wouldn't go winter camping without more serious gear, but then I rarely want to go camping in the winter anyway. As it is most of that 10lbs is (loosely) shelter - I don't choose to sleep cold, wet, or on the ground. And living in the desert, overnight temperatures can unpleasantly cold even in the summer.
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They need to train without them but use them when actually doing their job.
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Nice catch, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's completely legit - the human walking cycle is actually extremely inefficient, and it sounds like they're essentially borrowing lessons from kangaroo anatomy, who are able to run/hop long distances at high speed thanks to the fact that their ankle tendons are extremely elastic and can store the energy absorbed during landing and release almost all of it back into the next jump - essentially they exert very little energy to maintain speed, and are about a
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But lets hypothesize that you had a need to walk 10 miles in one direction and 10 miles back. Your calf muscles aren't weakening because they're being worked, but you expend about 7% less (metabolic) energy completing the 20 mile walk.
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Better yet, let's hypothesize that the place you needed to go was too far away to reasonably walk to without this device, so you drove a car there instead. Now, with the device, you can walk farther than you were willing to walk before, causing a net increase in exercise (and a more eco-friendly commute).
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Not disagreeing with you, but I was looking more towards situations in meatspace. Such as areas that are not accessible by roads. Which would be rural villages not in the US, or "wild" areas like Alaska or Northern Canada.