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New Virus Means Deadlier Flu Season Is Possible 163

HughPickens.com writes Donald McNeil writes in the NYT that this year's flu season may be deadlier than usual because this year's flu vaccine is a relatively poor match to a new virus that is now circulating. "Flu is unpredictable, but what we've seen thus far is concerning," says Dr. Thomas R. Frieden. According to the CDC, five U.S. children have died from flu-related complications so far this season. Four of them were infected with influenza A viruses, including three cases of H3N2 infections. The new H3 subtype first appeared overseas in March but because it was not found in many samples in the United States until September, it is now too late to change the vaccine. Because of the increased danger from the H3 strain — and because B influenza strains can also cause serious illness — the CDC recommends that patients with asthma, diabetes or lung or heart problems see a doctor at the first sign of a possible flu, and that doctors quickly prescribe antivirals like Tamiflu or Relenza. "H3N2 viruses tend to be associated with more severe seasons," says Frieden. "The rate of hospitalization and death can be twice as high or more in flu seasons when H3 doesn't predominate."
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  • Meh. (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 05, 2014 @08:10AM (#48529749)
    After going through Ebola, who is really going to give a shit about this? My suspicion is that, now that the Ebola hype has died back, Big News is looking for another epidemic story since they hit the rating jackpot on the last one.
    • There's always the HIV pandemic that you can fall back to if nothing else is killing us at the moment. ;-)
      • Programmers more than anyone should be able to understand these pathogens more than most people.

        Bacteria are a problem because some strains/species have metabolic byproducts (ie botulotoxin) that are deadly.

        But viruses are different, they don't do this.

        What they do instead is replicate like RTM's worm and make trillions of copies of themselves.

        Ask yourself - where do the raw materials come from when each virus makes a trillion more?

        You, of course.

        Now, what if the raw materials they use are really important

    • Re:Meh. (Score:4, Informative)

      by gatkinso ( 15975 ) on Friday December 05, 2014 @08:25AM (#48529817)

      While not nearly as dramatic, my understanding is that flu kills many more people than Ebola does.

      But death rate aside - who wants to be laid up in bed for a week with fever and body aches?

      • Also more likely to kill the very young or elderly and influenza & pneumonia (they are lumped together) rank above gun violence as a leading causes of death in the US.

      • flu kills many more people total but a much lower proportion of those infected.

        ebola was a massively deadly up and coming disease with infection counts growing apparently exponentially. Fortunately it seems sufficient resources have been brought in to bring the outbreak under control before it got too big.

        ebola also poses a grave threat to healthcare workers and early symptoms are difficult to distinguish from more mundane diseases. This makes it difficult to keep a healthcare system running properly in the

        • by jedidiah ( 1196 )

          Yes. Lack of infastructure seems to be more of a problem than the disease itself. This is a disease that has no cure but can be managed through treatment of the symptoms. Except those are dire enough in the early stages that they require considerable resources.

          Plus all of the fluids that have to be replaced are highly infectious and a great danger to healthcare workers.

      • Re:Meh. (Score:4, Insightful)

        by TheGratefulNet ( 143330 ) on Friday December 05, 2014 @11:33AM (#48531221)

        But death rate aside - who wants to be laid up in bed for a week with fever and body aches?

        with or without pay?

        (I'm serious, actually. as a contractor, I get no sick time off (paid) and so each time I get sick, I have to think if its worth losing a day's pay vs infecting others at work. lose/lose. welcome to the new normal for emplo^H^H^H^H^Hworkers.)

      • by rs79 ( 71822 )

        While not nearly as dramatic, my understanding is that flu kills many more people than Ebola does.

        Yes and no.

        Ebola typically kills between 50% to 99% of infected patients. Each Ebola patient on average infects two other (R0 = 2 - this is the r-naught factor)

        The W.H.O. has computed a 70.8% lethality rate for the current strain: GEBOV.

        Influenza otoh has a far lower lethality rate, but more people get it. If as many people got Ebola as got influenza, then, um, well, errr, let's put it this way you wouldn't h

    • by Chrisq ( 894406 )

      After going through Ebola, who is really going to give a shit about this?

      Ah but TFA says five American children have died of this - making it much more important to politicians than tens of thousands of Africans! It sucks but that's the way it is.

      • Re:Meh. (Score:4, Informative)

        by CrimsonAvenger ( 580665 ) on Friday December 05, 2014 @08:30AM (#48529839)

        making it much more important to politicians than tens of thousands of Africans!

        It must be noted that "tens of thousands of Africans" haven't died from ebola. Thousands, yes. Tens of thousands, no.

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Actually this is incorrect. The reported numbers are known deaths. See for example this article [ibtimes.com], quote

          "WHO most recently said it believes the actual Ebola death toll is about three times higher than the roughly 4,900 confirmed or suspected cases. That would bring the number of people killed in the current Ebola outbreak to about 15,000. ".

          So yes, tens of thousands have probably died from ebola.

    • If you live in a developed nation you're orders of magnitude more likely to die of the flu than of ebola.

      • If you live in a developed nation you're orders of magnitude more likely to die of the flu than of ebola.

        ...if you're a toddler or senior citizen.

        • Normal, otherwise healthy adults can die from the flu too, though it's far more rare.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by NotDrWho ( 3543773 )

      Don't worry, there is always some new PANDEMIC VIRUS THAT'S GOING TO KILL US ALL around the corner. As long as the CDC needs funding, there is always a new threat on the horizon. I remember as a kid being scared to death when the CDC announced that the Russian Flu was going to devastate the U.S. Oh, how naive I was back then. My dad just laughed when II came home crying from school because some gullible teacher had thought it wise to scare the shit out of her elementary students. He told me that there was a

      • Basically,

        "Flu Season Deadlier Than Previously Thought"

        Who are these people Previously Thinking these things?
        Will they please stop?
        Perhaps it's a ruse.
        No one Previously Thought these things.
        They're actually just saying these things.
        It's all about the scary music,
        you must imagine scary music,
        music like this [youtube.com].
        Go ahead, play it now. Turn it up LOUD.

        Here, take a cookie.
        I promise, by the time you're done eating it ---
        you'll feel right as rain.

      • A pandemic virus doesn't have to kill everybody to be a Bad Thing. (BTW, my wife lost her sense of smell with the Russian Flu. It took decades for it to return. It beat dying of it, but it wasn't pleasant.)

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Flu will kill more Americans this year than Ebola will this decade.

      • Re:Meh. (Score:4, Informative)

        by ranton ( 36917 ) on Friday December 05, 2014 @09:02AM (#48530027)

        Flu will kill more Americans this year than Ebola will this decade.

        I think its safe to say the flu will kill more Americans this year than Ebola will this century, or more likely this millennium.

        • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

          the numbers arent qite that high.

          • by ranton ( 36917 )

            Thousands of people die in the US from the flu each year. Tens of thousands during years when H3N2 variants are prevalent. Since only a few Americans have died from Ebola this year, it is quite likely that a thousand or even close to ten thousand times more Americans die from the flu this year than from Ebola.

      • by jedidiah ( 1196 )

        Yes, but bleeding hearts that insist that quarantine in "anti-scientific" may well kill me personally. The threat level of Ebola is proportional to how close you are to it. It's not just some random thing.

        Most of the rest of the country can get on their high horse and pretend how they are smarter than those of us for which this stuff isn't a news entertainment product.

      • Fatty food will kill more Americans by giving them a heart attack THIS WEEK ALONE than there will be deaths by Ebola or that "new horrible killer" flu combined this decade.

        And? You see anyone start picketing McD?

        I'll start giving half a shit about any of the OMFG-the-sky-is-falling diseases after we've taken care of the real killers. But I guess viruses have a worse PR company than burger joints.

    • Re:Meh. (Score:5, Informative)

      by dywolf ( 2673597 ) on Friday December 05, 2014 @10:54AM (#48530825)

      because the flu kills many more people than ebola, and is actually worth worrying abuot?
      because, unlike ebola, the flu doesnt burn itself out.
      ebola kills too easily and spreads with difficulty, which limits its spread and capabilty to harm large numbers.
      the flu, being more contagious and less deadly on an individual basis, is able to infect more people and thus kill more people.

      ebola is still below 10k fatailities for this outbreak.
      the flu ranges between 3k and 49k every year, averaging >20k.

      flu also causes a bigger drain on the world's economies, with lost production, costs spent on treatment, workers staying home, etc, than most other "scary" diseases.

      and this is "average" considerations, where the article is about how this years flu season may be exceptional due to the vaccine being less capable than expected compared to the expected viral strain.

  • by jratcliffe ( 208809 ) on Friday December 05, 2014 @08:28AM (#48529829)

    I've spent the last couple of days wishing for sweet, sweet death, and I did get my flu shot. Still 100% glad I got my flu shot, though. Basically, I was wearing a bulletproof vest, but got shot in the leg. Not the vest's fault. A group of very highly trained professionals made a judgment call back in February about what strains this year's flu shot should protect against, and they got it wrong. C'est la vie.

    • by TheRealHocusLocus ( 2319802 ) on Friday December 05, 2014 @09:54AM (#48530355)

      Still 100% glad I got my flu shot, though. Basically, I was wearing a bulletproof vest, but got shot in the leg.

      I was at Walgreen's shopping for scented candles, to ward off evil spirits, when I spotted this bright bold sign that shouted

      Get your flu shot...NOW!

      I jumped and backed up against the shelf with the candles, knocked them per foss [youtube.com], but the aisle was deserted, no needle wielding assailant apparent. The little signs were everywhere! Why had I not spotted them before?? Clutching a sandalwood candle and a gallon of milk defensively I approached the checkout, where the clerk informed me that the special price shown in the large glowing red sign was for those with a Special Rewards Card Only, and did I want to get one now?

      Then the sign flashed out its warning, in the word that it was forming, [youtube.com]
      and the sign said

      Get your flu shot...NOW!

      I fled in terror.

    • Basically, I was wearing a bulletproof vest, but got shot in the leg. Not the vest's fault

      Given the number of flu strains in the wild vs the number that a vaccine protects you against, a better analogy is that you're wearing bullet-proof shoes, and you got shot in the leg.

      • by Bengie ( 1121981 )
        From what I've read, averaged over many years, the flu shot reduces your chance of requiring a trip to the ER by 50%. For any given year or given person, they don't know. This also means you may still get sick with the flu, but you're 50% less likely need a trip to the ER, where you may die.
    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by StormReaver ( 59959 )

      Basically, I was wearing a bulletproof vest, but got shot in the leg.

      You were wearing the a bulletproof vest produced by the same designer who made the Emperor's new clothes.

      The Flu vaccine is no more effective than random chance, but it's a huge money maker for the pharmaceutical industry.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by jratcliffe ( 208809 )

        The Flu vaccine is no more effective than random chance, but it's a huge money maker for the pharmaceutical industry.

        Got any actual evidence for this claim? I see your unsupported assertion, and raise you a page of peer-reviewed studies.

        http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/q... [cdc.gov]

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      Flu shots can only handle a few strains IIRC. I easily get sick. :(

  • by Anonymous Coward

    That wouldn't happen if the vaccine was open source. Someone would have patched this bug.

    • You do realize that his vaccine needs to be manufactured. It's not that they can't fix it, there just isn't time to manufacture a new vaccine.
      • Yes, absolutely. That's why I made the "back in February" comment. They need to make a judgment call then about the most likely strains, and manufacture to that.

  • CDC issues yet another alarmist virus scare to maintain funding. Film at eleven.

    Next year, rinse, repeat, rinse repeat, rinse, repeat

    • Hello,

          I think the CDC has a LOT more grounds to ring the "danger bell" than the people supporting Department of Defense spending. How many US people did terrorists kill in the last 10 years? Probably flu deaths are in the 100,000's? We also lose about 30k people/year to antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria, however, do we even have $10B/year going into new antibiotic research?

          By *that* measure, which is pretty rational, the CDC and NIH ought to be funded at a higher level than the DoD.

          I mean, does USA *really* need to be spending more next 10 nations combined on its national defense, as opposed to spending more to control diseases which could quite conceivably mutate and become major killers, or combat already existing credible threats like ebola? How about spending more to assure the food supply is continuous? There are diseases wiping out food crops like bananas, citrus, chocolate, coffee, and there are credible disease threats against wheat. Yet USA is spending a pittiance to combat *that* risk, which, rationally, is a bigger risk than the risks mitigated by USA's DoD spending.

      --PeterM

      • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

        by NotDrWho ( 3543773 )

        The fact that the defense budget is bloated (and it is, VERY MUCH SO) doesn't justify the CDC being bloated, just because it's on a smaller scale.

        • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

          who says cdc is bloated?
          their budget is less than 7 billion.

          yet they are responsbile for and cover a great many things that pose actual threats to the american public.
          things that kill more citizens than terrorism ever has or likely ever will.

      • By *that* measure, which is pretty rational, the CDC and NIH ought to be funded at a higher level than the DoD.

        That makes as much sense as demanding that people spend more on smoke detectors than clothing-- since fires are really dangerous. Just throwing money at medical research while neglecting national defense-- which is simply going to be expensive for a superpower-- doesn't make sense in the big picture.

        • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

          why do we have to BE a superpower?
          and your analogy sucks. there is no benefit to spending more on smoke detectors than clothing, but there is a benefit to giving an underfunded orginzation like teh CDC more funding. and it is true: the CDC covers an area responsible for more american death than terrorism ever has. but its not scary, or patriotic, and it deals with science, and then there that whole AC/Tinfoil hat crowd.

      • Thanks to a new law in Washington State the Flu has to pass a background check before it is transferred.
        Expect Washington State to have far fewer deaths caused by the irresponsible spread of the Flu.

    • Issuing reports like this is just the CDC doing their job. You do not complain about the weather service issuing reports about tornados, do you? Or CERT issuing their reports? NHTSA?

      It seems to me you are the alarmist here.

      • The CDC goes WAY beyond just issuing objective, disinterested alerts. Their press conferences often sound more like the rantings of a nutcase holding up a "The End is Nigh!" sign than the objective and qualified observations of serious medical professionals. Remember their H1N1 "pandemic" press conferences?

        • We were talking about this particular communication of the CDC. I see just facts and reasonable-sounding suggestions to doctors, and no ranting anywhere. So why is this 'yet another alarmist virus scare', as you claim it is? Quotes please.

        • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

          the only nutcase around here is you.
          ok i take that back, you have a lot of company.
          but still a nutcase.

      • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

        DUH! Obviously the Weather Service is only issuing reports and warnings to justify their own existence and get more funding.
        I dont know what theyre going to do with it, since being government employees their salaries are locked by codified pay scales so its not like they can pocket the money from "more funding".

        Seriosuly, what do these nuts who say its about more funding think they're going to do with it?
        Its so dumb, its hard to properly parody it.

    • by hink ( 89192 )
      AAANND, if they said nothing, and some thing horrible happens, some untrained commenter/reporter/radio host would say "the CDC doesn't know anything, they did not warn us this might happen".

      Pick what you want, a medical community that tells you what CAN happen, or that tells you what you want to hear. The doctors I deal with (numerous specialties, pediatric and adult, in America), are in the "list everything that CAN happen" mindset. They try to add the probabilities of an outcome, and point out what the
    • by hink ( 89192 )
      Another point - have you ever READ the original reports and release from the CDC? Pretty dry stuff.
      It is THE PRESS that adds the hyperbole.
      • have you ever READ the original reports and release from the CDC? Pretty dry stuff.

        Yeah, I've heard about some of their objective and disinterested [washingtonpost.com] reports on "disease."

        • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

          that's an opinion peice from a non expert criticing experts, and that piece has itself been torn to shreds.

          for starters, theres the assumptions that the FBI statistics are at all adequate (they arent, and even the FBI says so), or that their statistics are the end of the discussion and should or would at all match studies.

          the FBI stats are inadequate and incomplete.
          the FBI even says so.

          there are tens of thousands of LEA's across the country (>35k), but onlya very small minority of them (1k) even track s

    • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

      Ladies and gentlemen: I present to you ignorance so profound it represents a threat to society.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Not this bullshit again, it's already that time of the year?

  • So how many times are we going to go through this same alarmist, the world is going to end because of ... the flu thing?

    I started paying attention to this crap in the late 90s when I realized 'it seems like every year we're going to have a horrible flu outbreak' ... then they started naming the flu for the year, which meant my drama queen sister in law seemed to get 'deadliest flu strain ever' every year ... and saying things like 'I have H1N1, its the deadly one!!!!!' except of course ... H1N1 isn't a sp

    • by bunratty ( 545641 ) on Friday December 05, 2014 @09:12AM (#48530083)

      Where do you get this "end of the world" thing? As for the claim of "alarmism", do you not remember the flu strain several years ago [livescience.com] that tended to kill healthy people in the prime of their life, rather than "immunocompromised hosts"?

      It's not that the reports are "alarmist". It's (1) you're not understanding the actual risk, and (2) you're pretending that the reports are predicting the end of the world.

      • Yeah, I remember the pig flu scare of 2009. My mom's BF and a friend of hers got very sick. Odd thing is, they both got shots.

      • by minstrelmike ( 1602771 ) on Friday December 05, 2014 @10:58AM (#48530857)

        It's not that the reports are "alarmist". It's (1) you're not understanding the actual risk, and (2) you're pretending that the reports are predicting the end of the world.

        Yup. that applies to most of the comments.
        Viruses mutate and flus occur regularly. Occasionally, one is deadly.
        To get in front of evolution and have 50 million vaccines ready for distribution, you need to make educated guesses.
        This year we guessed wrong. That's the gist of the article.

        • by MikeKD ( 549924 )
          ...additionally, they're admitting their guess was wrong so that people can be better prepared. Were there more situations like this.
    • Boy who cried wolf (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 05, 2014 @09:13AM (#48530095)

      Well I love your great anecdotal evidence, you should probably publish it and see how it goes. So, as an actual virologist and epidemiologist, let me try to explain here. First, please understand the difference between correlation and causation. Second, you may truly have a strong immune system helping protect you against seasonal flu or you may simply have very selective memory. Third, a strong immune system has actually been shown to be a detriment as it leads to what some scientists term a cytokine/chemokine storm (yes this specific terminology/pathology still debated) so enjoy that avoidance of a simple, cheap, and safe vaccine if we ever have to deal with such a strain. Fourth, the flu SHOT does not cause the flu, it is killed and will not lead to any type of viral infection directly from the shot. It is, of course, possible for the vaccine to be targeting the wrong strains as the article states the current one may but sorry to say it still is a partial guessing game and they will sometimes guess wrong. This is why good hygiene and health practices are also critical, not just the vaccine. Fifth, someone really has no understanding of herd immunity. One of the most critical aspects of the flu vaccine is it can protect the elderly, young, and immune compromised who themselves can't receive the vaccine or receive no direct benefit. Are you so cold as to avoid a simple and safe shot which could save your own child, or your parents/grand parents? What if your neighbors baby gets dies and we could trace it directly back to you (fairly easy to do through sequencing analysis)? Again, the vaccine is easy and cheap. The economic costs directly related to seasonal flu pay for it by itself, not including the life saving factors. It is simply ignorance, avoidance, and stupidity which can lead to such illogical jumps of "I never get sick so I don't need a vaccine" or "I only get sick when I get vaccinated". If you showed me a daily health report from the last 5 years where you reported your temp and clinical signs twice a day, I may believe you. Otherwise sorry to say I am sticking with selective memory.

      • by jmyers ( 208878 )

        Everything you say may be true and if you were not an AC I might take your word for it, but there is a good reason people are sceptical. For example my local news station makes a big deal everytime someone dies of the flu. Every story ends with the reminder to get your flue shot.

        There are obvious questions that should be answered, 1) what was the cause of death 2) how healthy was the individual 3) did this person get the flu shot. They will not answer these questions. Go to any discussion board of an artic

        • by Anonymous Coward

          Everything you say may be true and if you were not an AC I might take your word for it, but there is a good reason people are sceptical. For example my local news station makes a big deal everytime someone dies of the flu. Every story ends with the reminder to get your flue shot.

          There are obvious questions that should be answered, 1) what was the cause of death 2) how healthy was the individual 3) did this person get the flu shot. They will not answer these questions. Go to any discussion board of an article talking about specific flu deaths and you will see these questions over and over. Without answers to these questions many people will not be convinced the shot is effective.

          It doenst mean the shot is not effective but when you hide information that should be disclosed it causes doubt.

          After reading comment after comment like this, I am amazed that anyone on /. criticizes Jenny McCarthy for her stance in vaccination. No matter how low the perceived threat is, flu can be really dangerous and if it weren't for vaccinations we would have already had a flu epidemic on the scale of the 1918 Spanish flu. Read what it's like to die of the flu. It's a horrible death. Ever since I saw the Nova documentary on the Spanish flu, I never hesitate to get a flu shot.

          • "if it weren't for vaccinations we would have already had a flu epidemic on the scale of the 1918 Spanish flu." An example of the hyperbole being pointed out.
      • He didn't say he got the flu FROM the vaccine... he just pointed out the one time he bothered to get one, the vaccine proved to be ineffective. Also, I'm not an immunologist, but I know the point of the vaccine is to provoke an immune response-- and that immune response is part of what makes people feel sick. Many, if not most people are guaranteed to feel lousy the day they get the vaccine in exchange for the small chance of feeling REALLY BAD for several days-- or really dead.
    • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Friday December 05, 2014 @09:47AM (#48530319)

      I started paying attention to this crap in the late 90s when I realized 'it seems like every year we're going to have a horrible flu outbreak'

      Then you haven't really being paying much attention. Sure there's usually one or two attention grabbing whores on Fox News, but for the most part the only really alarmist case that was reported was H1N1, and rightfully so as it turned out. Maybe you should actually review how much airtime the CDC dedicated to the flu each year before you claim they are crying wolf.

      And while we're on the subject of the flu ... why is it that I'm the only one in my family that doesn't get a flu shot and I'm also the only one who has managed to not get the flu every year except for the year before last ... when doctors convinced me to get the flu shot because I had a newborn son ... ironic that I GOT THE FLU THAT YEAR.

      Not understanding how the vaccine works is not irony. Your survived a mild strain of the flu, congratulations. In the meantime, I, a healthy 25 year old who plays sports, eats a healthy diet, and hadn't had so much as a sneeze in the years preceding managed to get hospitalised for 2 weeks when I caught the flu. It took most of the year to get back into the shape I was before I caught it, but it's good to know that you think everything is ok and we should all just brush it off. By the way did they tell you which stain of flu you got? There's only about 100 of them, I assume you got a vaccine for each one? No?

      I'm also interested in how your entire family manages to get the flue every year when only about 0.04% of the population is diagnosed with a strain of influenza in the USA in any given year.

      The flu is scary for immunocompromised hosts, which is basically no one other than HIV/AIDS carriers and older people. Even freaking kids have an immune system that does well against it.

      Wow. I didn't realise one could have so much ignorance in one statement but still get out the word immunocompromised. Certainly it's only the million or so AIDS suffers that died in the last flu pandemic right? Right? Wrong. Of note as well is that the H1N1 outbreak in Australia killed people with a median age of 53. Healthy adults fell victim to it. The Hong Kong Flu killed a shitload of people.

      I'll leave you with a lovely little saying:
      "About 10 times a year a person will catch a cold and think they have the flu. About once in every 10 years a person will catch the flu and never again confuse it with a cold."

      • I'll leave you with ... I'm married to a doctor who works with flu patients every year.

        My anecdotal evidence trumps yours.

        • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

          then maybe you should talk to him so he can correct your ignorance and wildly misinformational posts.

        • My anecdotal evidence trumps yours.

          Except I have statistics backing me up, so your anecdotes aren't worth a dime.

          Wait... you're married to a doctor... and your family catches the flu... every year... Y'all must be doing something very wrong.

    • by dywolf ( 2673597 )

      this is not scare mongering
      its facts.

      the flu causes more death and more economic loss every year than almost any other communicable disease.
      this percieved lack of threat only exacerbates it.

      no, its not as scary as ebola. but ebola is really hard to catch and spread. ebola kills too easily, it burns itself out.
      the flu doesnt do that though. it spready very easily. and kills only rarely. but it does kill.
      this results in it being able to infect a far larger total nubmer of persons, which means a far larger tot

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Forgive me if I simply yawn at yet another hyper-alarmist "CYA" plea from big government.

  • This flu does suck. My six-month-old baby and I have it. That's all I have to say for now because looking at the screen hurts right now.

  • 2 years after the Ebola virus will spread throughout the world.
  • Secure ample funding for the CDC so they don't have to spew alarmist bull every now and then to keep their budget.

  • When it comes to the flu, why bother with unproved vaccines when we have multiple studies showing vitamin D helps your immune system thwart it as efficiently in winter as it does in summer.

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