Profanity-Laced Academic Paper Exposes Scam Journal 137
Frosty P writes: A scientific paper titled "Get Me Off Your F****** Mailing List" was actually accepted by the International Journal of Advanced Computer Technology. As reported at Vox and other web sites, the journal, despite its distinguished name, is a predatory open-access journal. These sorts of low-quality journals spam thousands of scientists, offering to publish their work for a fee. In 2005, computer scientists David Mazières and Eddie Kohler created this highly profane ten-page paper as a joke, to send in replying to unwanted conference invitations. It literally just contains that seven-word phrase over and over, along with a nice flow chart and scatter-plot graph. More recently, computer scientist Peter Vamplew sent it to the IJACT in response to spam from the journal, and the paper was automatically accepted with an anonymous reviewer rating it as "excellent," and requested a fee of $150. Over the years, the number of these predatory journals has exploded. Jeffrey Beall, a librarian at the University of Colorado, keeps an up-to-date list of them to help researchers avoid being taken in; it currently has 550 publishers and journals on it."
The Source Document (Score:5, Informative)
Of course I didn't use the word "F******" in my submission, but I suppose Slashdot must be couth.
Anyway, here's a link to the actual paper (warning: PDF) - http://www.scs.stanford.edu/~d... [stanford.edu]
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Nice job. At first I thought the references at the end of the paper weren't used, but upon closer examination they were cited within the paper.
If I were in Academia, I'd be looking for the slightest excuse to cite this paper at every opportunity!
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Not that it would be enough to have an appreciable affect, but it would increase the impact factor of the journal. That would be contrary to the point of such papers.
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Not that it would be enough to have an appreciable affect, but it would increase the impact factor of the journal. That would be contrary to the point of such papers.
Actually no. It would only show (one more time) that the IF is no useful measure. While this may not be the original intent of the paper, it would be a nice addition.
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If you are assuming a completely new definition for the word "advanced" I agree. I picture poo flinging monkeys landing a steamer on a button for the submission process.
Re:They must have some really low standards (Score:5, Funny)
This includes blind review by three or more members of the international editorial review board
Possible "failure modes":
1. Blind review: The reviewers are blind, so as long as the paper passes the "sniff test" ...
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2. International editorial review board: Their first, second, whatever languages aren't english
Obviously a scam, though I want to know - did he mange to get off their mailing list?
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Possible "failure modes":
1. Blind review: The reviewers are blind, so as long as the paper passes the "sniff test" ...
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2. International editorial review board: Their first, second, whatever languages aren't english
Obviously a scam, though I want to know - did he mange to get off their mailing list?
You missed one.
3. The reviewers would appreciate it if the journal would stop mailing them papers without asking first.
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Don't forget the rock-solid references. That is one quality paper!
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Mathematically, Einstein breaks with the tradition dating back to Euclid (and which is inflicted on high-school students even today!), and employs instead the non-Euclidean geometry developed by Riemann. Einstein's equations are highly nonlinear, which is why traditionally-trained mathematicians find them so difficult to solve.
In the 1980's a very different approach, known as string theory, became popular: here the fundamental constituents of matter are not point-like particles but rather tiny (Planck-scale) closed and open strings. In this theory, the space-time manifold does not exist as an objective physical reality; rather, space-time is a derived concept, an approximation valid only on large length scales (where ``large'' means ``much larger than 10^-33 centimeters''!).
As Althusser rightly commented, ``Lacan finally gives Freud's thinking the scientific concepts that it requires''. More recently, Lacan's topologie du sujet has been applied fruitfully to cinema criticism and to the psychoanalysis of AIDS. In mathematical terms, Lacan is here pointing out that the first homology group of the sphere is trivial, while those of the other surfaces are profound; and this homology is linked with the connectedness or disconnectedness of the surface after one or more cuts.
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I hope you don't come to regret your bravado.
Not because there will be any retaliation (they don't give half a rat's ass, as you very clearly demonstrated) but because what you did was the proverbial wrestling with pigs - with the inevitable result of ending up covered in shit. Now you stand there, and it is not unlikely that people will remember you first and foremost for publishing a paper filled with foul lan
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I think it's more likely that people won't remember this at all than it is that they'll remember someone submitting some paper with words some people arbitrarily deem to be bad.
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I didbn't publish this paper. I submitted the story to Slashdot.
Vulgarity, not Profanity (Score:2)
The paper isn't mis-using religious concepts or entities or terminology for secular and negative purposes, it's using vulgar terms instead of more polite ones. People keep f******* mistaking the two concepts.
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And dig! They're afraid to post your full nick...
Which can be confusing since "Frosty Piss" is my actual name that I use when publishing all my papers, but "Frosty P" is the name I use when I'm scratching rare vinyl at the clubs - I know most dj's just queue it up in their MacBooks, but I'm old school.
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They're worried about the word "piss"? Heck, piss (or its variant, pisseth) appears at least half a dozen times in the King James Bible.
Oh well ...
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You realise Slashdot accounts aren't issued at birth, right?
Re:Beall's list not neutral (Score:4, Informative)
Mr. Beall's list has been criticized as being not neutral...
Not by Science Magazine... From Wikipedia:
In 2013, Science published the results of a "sting operation" in which a scientifically flawed spoof publication was submitted to open access publications.[11] Many accepted the manuscript, and a disproportionate number of the accepting journals were on Beall's list. The publication, entitled Who's Afraid of Peer Review?, stated that "The results show that Beall is good at spotting publishers with poor quality control: For the publishers on his list that completed the review process, 82% accepted the paper."[11] Beall agreed, saying that the author of the sting, John Bohannon, "basically found what I've been saying for years."
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Check out the list of reasons for why certain publishers are on the list...
Sounds reasonable to me.
Not bad, but... (Score:5, Funny)
It's no Chicken Chicken Chicken [isotropic.org], but it'll do.
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Maybe it's just me, but I really want to know what that Chicken vs Chicken plot actually is. Also the more I look at that paper, the more I think "is that really how chicken is spelt?" - it just doesn't look correct when written so many times.
Chicken chicken chicken, chicken! (Score:2)
Thank you for that! I haven't laughed like this at an academic paper in, well, a really blooming long time.
And as a bonus, I've given the folks here at the coffee shop something to stare at. :)
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What?
Re:Not bad, but... (Score:5, Funny)
Thanks. I had never read the actual paper before, only seen the presentation. [youtube.com]
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More on this:
https://news.cs.washington.edu/2013/08/14/chicken-chicken-chicken-chicken-chicken/ [washington.edu]
Predatory? (Score:2)
Over the years, the number of these predatory journals has exploded.
If the journal is the predator, who or what is the prey? Pray tell.
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Those who write the documents, clearly as indicated in TFS.
I have been approached myself by several journals, all of which I have rejected because they ALL wanted ME to pay THEM to publish my work. I would sooner give it away than pay(!?) to have it published, particularly given the subject matter of my most important research into the trafficking of foreign children by the British State.
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the trafficking of foreign children by the British State
Historical, or contemporary?
Linky?
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it's very much a current issue: https://www.academia.edu/57099... [academia.edu] (I'm listed as report drafting, I basically did the analysis) [PDF].
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It is a fair point that generally kids are taken in to care due to unfit parents, but that is not the purpose of the paper is it?
The UK signed the Convention in 1964. Signatories have the following duty, without exception, under Article 37 (b) of the Vienna Convention of Consular Relations 1963: Article 37 (b):
âoeIf the relevant information is available to the competent authorities of the receiving State, such authorities shall have the duty:
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to inform the competent consular post without delay of any case where the appointment of a guardian or trustee appears to be in the interests of a minor or other person lacking full capacity who is a national of the sending State.â
Thats pretty clear, if you take a kid into care you are obligated to inform the consol for that childs country that you are doing so. The Consol may or may not intervine but they should be informed.
while you do get circumstances where parents are unfit, there are also cases where familys have been made homeless after losing jobs and having no recourse to public funds have ended up
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there are 114 countries affected by the research. All 114 Embassies have been made aware of the situation. To date 27 have gotten back to me through personal communications, and so far a grand total of three have stated their intent to bring a case against the British Government through their spokesperson (who will be whoever occupies the centre seat) in the ICC. Those three being Italy, Slovakia and Nigeria.
Incidentally, London Borough of Haringey have refused to answer the FOI even now, though they have p
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London Borough of Haringey ?
http://www.theguardian.com/soc... [theguardian.com]
might be of interest to you, Obviously I don't know about the case you bring up I can believe that the children and parents were shown to be related by DNA although it doesn't mean that automatically disqualifies the child sex trafficking charge.
You might think that there should be some existing evidence to backup the presumed intent. If the parents were not criminally charged and convicted then it would make the councils grounds for their action
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the family had moved to England for the children to go to school, the parents are both church Ministers (Gloria and Chiwar Musa). LBH, as pretty standard these days, viewed two adults entering the country with six children on shared passports as not normal (I'm thinking why?? Usually when they abduct children they put them down as unaccompanied asylum seeking children - which means THEY DO NOT HAVE PASSPORTS. How easy would it be then to make a child in that situation disappear? Answer: VERY). They fabricat
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oh, update: Gloria and Chiwar have been deported.
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i haven't a clue as to how to proceed , if you can proceed with this. ...
I wish you luck and hope you can persevere maybe it can be fought in the european court of human rights, although finding the financial support to do so and a legal procedure that can be applied
good luck and I hope they have some success
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Right now it's a case of finding an Embassy with the balls to stand up to the UK Government.
It's like herding cats...
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I live in England, you twat.
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In other words, it's the old vanity press / subsidy press scam.
Or those "poetry contests" where you (and many other suckers) "win" and now have to shell out big bux for a book of crappy poetry that you couldn't pay people to read.
Of course, that's where their review process fails - even they can't pay a real editor to read the submissions. Hmm ... where have I heard that before ....
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The current trend is through adclicks. The content is a side dish, like GMail, G+, Google Search, OK Google and Facebook Newsfeed. The real content as far as the likes of Zuckerberg and Google's shareholders are concerned, is the ad space. The actual user data, however it is used or not by the respective companies, is merely a means to a targetted end.
For THE definitive demonstration of this in action, check Million Dollar Script. This was a social experiment, covered on Slashdot in September 2005, to sell
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The prey are the authors who want to get published, and are willing to pay money to do so.
If you even bothered to read the summary, that would have become obvious.
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The one who has less money at the end.
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poison their databases with crapfloods of bogus documents much as the submitter did. One the pollution reaches a certain threshold, mentality will reach the dizzying heights of the anti-Torrent crowd who claim that Torrents are only used for pirating movies and the journal will make the list of "avoid this shithole, it's full of literal nonsense" sites.
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I think it unlikely that they'll simply ditch papers that don't get paid for (maybe they keep hold of them and wait till one hits the big time and file a vexatious copyright claim or something equally as likely but equally as improbable), which means that they have to be a. stored on a database and b. referred to in an abstract form somewhere, like an academic website or a nerds newsboard, to lend weight to whatever claim they think they might have.
Random sample from one paper (Score:2)
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Also note the "Editorial Board" for this illustrious publication: http://www.ijact.org/eb.htm [ijact.org]
I suspect that this "journal" not only provides these guys with extra income, but also serves publication destination for their own dubious science papers.
Of course what keeps these "journals" in business is the fever pitch that academics must publish just to stay relevant in their professional / social strata (and who cares what they publish as long as they do), and their quest for tenure...
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Your spell-checker ruined the fun or did you not notice that they have an editorial borad?
Than it should be fine for submission to the above mentioned "journal" as well as many others and Slashdot!
I'm not trying to tar and feather Indian technologists, I know that the who subject feeds into our US domestic politics and the whole H1-B quagmire. But have a look at the "editorial board" of this and other simular fraudulant "journals [ijact.org], and than remember a recent Slashdot story:
https://politics.slashdot.org/... [slashdot.org]
Over the last 25 years of my adult employment, I've worked with many gifted people from man
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Your spell-checker ruined the fun or did you not notice that they have an editorial borad?
I would be much more supportive of an Editorial Borat.
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That's no fun; I'm going to build my own journal! With blackjack and editorial broads! In fact, forget the journal and the blackjack! Ah, screw the whole thing...
AGW? (Score:2)
What I mean is has anyone actually sourced out all the sources on both sides of the isle? does one side use these shady journals to "prove" the other side wrong? Do both do it? or do the studies we get side come from mostly reputable sources
There are two problems here... (Score:2)
The first problem is that occasionally researchers (usually junior) will submit actual meaningful work to these journals, likely driven at least in part by the exceptionally low publication charge. Publishing in a top-tier journal is expensive, and even the reputable open-access journals (such as PLoS ONE) can easily be over $1000 to publish. As junior researchers don't have the larger budgets of their senior colleague
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After vicious attacks by the outside world against FOSS, I think its time we demand the new standard for all learned fields that describe scientific, engineered, and otherwise proccess oriented objective knowledge, to be Free.
We could have an organization like debian, that instead of publishing a distribution of other people's software, publishes an online journal, of other people
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We could have an organization like debian, that instead of publishing a distribution of other people's software, publishes an online journal, of other people's papers. Run, and reviewed in the same manner.
That is a great idea. The problem though is that it takes money to do it. You need editors to review the papers. You need a web page that can handle traffic for distributing the papers. You need a physical space to store the hardware. You need a communication system for editors and reviewers to communicate with authors and with each other.
Even if a faculty member at a research university were to propose to do this, they would still need to dedicate money from their grant or their salary to fund it
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When I have looked into one or two of them out of curiosity, I went down a rabbit hole of internet weirdness (SEO, lack of citations, etc.)
Blown their impact factor (Score:2)
Now they're going to put this esteemed journal out of business and their paper will never receive the sort of impact factor needed for tenure.
Uh-oh (Score:2)
So, you're telling me the $300 I paid to the Journal of Experimental Onanism to publish my findings was a waste of money?
Damn. I've already printed up my CV and that paper is at the top of my list of publications. I suppose I should have been suspicious when I saw that the editors that were assigned to peer review my paper were Jack Meihoff and Richard Gazinya.
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The references are cited in the text on p. 2 - look for [1] and [2].
However, good catch r.e. the RFCs. That must be the reason the paper was accepted. This journal doesn't let just anything in.
one of my favorites (Score:2)
http://dspace.mit.edu/bitstrea... [mit.edu]
Happens in Engineering All the Time... (Score:2)
so what? (Score:2)
There are sham politicians, sham journalists, sham non-open-access-journals, sham universities, sham scientists, even sham-poo. Why shouldn't there be sham-open-access-journals? What are these people trying to prove?
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two people? (Score:1)
This is nothing. I got a +5 on /. which was just (Score:2)
/unsubscribe /unsubscribe
fucking
So... you actually gave them money? (Score:2)
Because, that's what SPAM is intended to do, only a fraction of a percentage of the people have to give them money (even if it's as a joke, opposite research or any reason whatsoever) for them to be profitable.
These sites are literally auto-generated for any field you can think of (I work in association with physicists, biologists and neurologists, they have at least a dozen journals across these fields). I get daily spams from at least 5 of them. The websites are identical (replacing the $field), the journ
One could say the scam journal was... (Score:1)
The paper is fine (Score:2)
While the scientific merits of their approach are indeed somewhat questionable, their article addresses a topic of widespread public interest and they make a valid point. I suppose it has entered the journal not under the category "original research" but rather under "discussion and critical commentaries".
That reminds me of (Score:1)
SCIgen, an automatic CS paper generator, which got several "authors" accepted to talk at conferences !
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Not to burst your bubble ... O what the hell.
Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis [forbes.com]
Report: 1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against Man-Made Global Warming Alarm [climatedepot.com]
No reason to mention the pro-AGW impending doom papers, no one doubts their existence.
My thoughts -- Yes, some GW is related to CO2, at least some fraction of the additional CO2 is due to man's activity, in particular burning of carbon fuels. It may even be a serious problem. BTW,
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You should dig a little deeper.
For the first link:
- The survey was made only among geo-scientists and engineers in the province of Alberta, Canada (where the oil industry is a major employer), it's a world wide survey of experts in climate.
- The actual results of the survey were "27.4% believe it is caused by primarily natural factors (natural variation, volcanoes, sunspots, lithosphere motions, etc.), 25.7% believe it is caused by primarily human factors (burning fossil fuels, changing land use, enhanced w
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There are prefectly respectable climate science journals. The really top articles might even find their way into "nature" or "science".
Simply making up lies isn't going to bring anyone to your cause, but, I do admit it is the denialist way, so that fits.
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